Spider-verse Mafia [DAY 6]

[Jackofhearts2005]

I mean I’ll claim if I have to but I’d rather claim after Syn blasts a wolf in a 2 wolf world because I’d really rather not get souped. I should be obvious town after yesterday.

[Syn]

actually I have a very important question

a lot of these roles manipulate vote power

the screenshots LC has in the OP

do they include vote power changes?

how do we know when someone's vote power has applied?

[MacDougall]

@MacDougall

What does the Scion do?

I start with it. I pass it to someone whenever. I don't know what happens after that. If the person holding it is dead plus the other and the bride are all dead then the mafia get two kills the following night. It's a weird role.

so your one singular useful power is an item

that does something you don't know anything about

and if the person with it dies along with some other peeps, it gives the wolves extra KP?

It's literally in the OP.

[Epignosis]

someone real quick sanity check me

there are 30 roles in the OP

there are not 30 players

based on the wolf flips, the missing roles have gotta be from the wolf side and, like, one or two towns, right?

has anyone tabulated a list of confirmed roles in game, and those that have yet to flip?

There were 4 roles removed. I severely doubt that LC would remove 3 wolves and 1 town, so there are probably either (2 wolf roles removed and 2 town roles removed) or (imo more likely) (1 wolf role removed and 3 town roles removed), meaning that there are 2-3 wolves remaining (unless by some crazy chance we hit the seemer and never figured it out, but I think this is unlikely)

I have no kept track of roles which must be here.

I see you're having a hard time answering my question, "Who is bad?"

Dude, I literally answered that in my original post to Syn, before you even asked me. You aren't even bothering to read my posts at this point, which is a bad look from someone who "apparently" suspects me.

Two things:

I'm not reading most of the posts at all, and

I don't give a shit about "bad looks."

But since I have you on the horn, I'll ask about these posts in response to MacDougall (not Syn).

if Mac is confirmed town, why is he in everyone's POE

tf is going on

Because everyone left alive are either me, trolls, slankers or neg uitl

I am a slanker. hardcore didn't get engaged until like D4, but I feel like I was pretty useful D5.

But those that are saying there are only 1 or 2 wolves alive are pretty much guaranteed to be flat out wrong. There are probably 3, possibly 2 (there were 8 wolves in the original setup, we have 4 wolves flipped. It seems likely when the game went from 30 players down to 26, at least one wolf was removed. Less likely but possible, two wolves were removed. The only possible way that there is only 1 wolf left is if one of the people we voted was the seemer, but that seems extremely unlikely at this point. Much more likely is that we haven't flipped the seemer, in which case there are either 3 wolves left (if 3 town roles were removed, and 1 wolf role was removed) or less likely 2 wolves left (if 2 town roles were removed and 2 wolf roles were removed).

We should check Mac's story, but if that is un-countered, I feel good about it. I do remember talk of the scion moving around, so that role should be here.

Everyone seems to have Esooa in their PoE, which makes me worry about that.

Guillo has been super intense and Nutella seemed to think they were outed based on their night post two nights ago, but I don't see it, and Guillo pushed pretty hard on Grogu earlier than everyone else did. Maybe distancing, maybe just guillo seeing wolves where it took the rest of us longer to see.

Jack has been a bit meh. He looked good in his post spurt yesterday, pushing for a Grogu yeet, but this was after I think most of town was already there, so idk how much credit that is worth.

Epi has done nothing, isn't caught up. He is scumreading me hard. Idk if it is genuine or not, probably not at this point just considering the density of wolves.

Is that everyone? wow, okay, game small now.

So, three wolves there, if I had to guess, I'd say {Esooa, Epi, Jack}.

If I would have been the first to answer about hero shooting, I would have said Esooa, trusting some fallen camrades but at this point idk, I'm scared because of how many people are intersecting on Esooa.

I'll start with me.

Talk to me about me.

"Epi has done nothing, isn't caught up."

Would you say I had a hand in the Michelle lynch?

Would you say I had a hand in the Grogu lynch?

[MacDougall]

Spider-Girl - Mayday Parker - Earth 982
---> Great Responsibility - You start with The Scion, and may pass it to another player at any time.
-----> Judge of Character - If you vote for a Spider, your vote is worth 0.5.

^ my shit butt role

[Epignosis]

@MacDougall

What does the Scion do?

I start with it. I pass it to someone whenever. I don't know what happens after that. If the person holding it is dead plus the other and the bride are all dead then the mafia get two kills the following night. It's a weird role.

so your one singular useful power is an item

that does something you don't know anything about

and if the person with it dies along with some other peeps, it gives the wolves extra KP?

It's literally in the OP.

That's true. I read that much. It doesn't move the needle one way or the other for me with Mac, but I did read that shit.

[Syn]

@MacDougall

What does the Scion do?

I start with it. I pass it to someone whenever. I don't know what happens after that. If the person holding it is dead plus the other and the bride are all dead then the mafia get two kills the following night. It's a weird role.

so your one singular useful power is an item

that does something you don't know anything about

and if the person with it dies along with some other peeps, it gives the wolves extra KP?

It's literally in the OP.

oh I'm not questioning the KP

I'm questioning that you have no info regarding what your item does

[MacDougall]

I am not even saying you're mafia Jack. I am saying that your claim was so blatant that the mafia missing on you before getting to me in soup is likely.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Spoiler alert: I’m not getting chopped today.

And if anyone bothers to read my iso instead of the incredibly tired “I don’t know what I’m doing so I’ll just default to suspecting Jack” strategy that literally never works, it’ll be really clear that I’m town here.

Just waiting for people to actually read the thread or until the deadline.

I repeat, I’m not getting chopped today.

You can call me a wolf all you like but it won’t change the outcome.

You run this simulation a hundred times and I’ll never swing.

Anyone voting for me can believe me now or see for themselves later.

And you can find just as much if this shit in my finals games where I was a vanilla townie.

And again, there are multiple vote manipulating roles so even if you think this is a power claim, it doesn’t lead to the conclusion “Jack hard claimed lynch stopper.”

[Jackofhearts2005]

I am not even saying you're mafia Jack. I am saying that your claim was so blatant that the mafia missing on you before getting to me in soup is likely.

You’re incorrect.

[MacDougall]

@MacDougall

What does the Scion do?

I start with it. I pass it to someone whenever. I don't know what happens after that. If the person holding it is dead plus the other and the bride are all dead then the mafia get two kills the following night. It's a weird role.

so your one singular useful power is an item

that does something you don't know anything about

and if the person with it dies along with some other peeps, it gives the wolves extra KP?

It's literally in the OP.

oh I'm not questioning the KP

I'm questioning that you have no info regarding what your item does

It doesn't do anything. It's a literal hot potato negative utility shittbutt thing. The only objective I could determine was to ensure the person who had it didn't die. Hence giving it to G-Man.

I'm at work I don't have time to spend on this.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Actually...

[MacDougall]

I am not even saying you're mafia Jack. I am saying that your claim was so blatant that the mafia missing on you before getting to me in soup is likely.

You’re incorrect.

Are you claiming mafia? Wtf how could you even make this statement?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Okay, I can see the wolves thinking that is me claiming as many as three different roles. So without saying I am or am not in that group, that’s at least two potential misses at my role.

Fine.

But Mac hard claimed a specific role. So why swing and miss at me twice?

Mac is alive because the mafia wants him alive. Whatever that means.

[Epignosis]

Can we stop giving a shit about claims and play Mafia? Jesus Spider Man!

[MacDougall]

Okay, I can see the wolves thinking that is me claiming as many as three different roles. So without saying I am or am not in that group, that’s at least two potential misses at my role.

Fine.

But Mac hard claimed a specific role. So why swing and miss at me twice?

Mac is alive because the mafia wants him alive. Whatever that means.

I'm gonna say this once and once only.

The town lost this game because the town were utter idiots when it comes to claiming.

This game was eminently winnable from the start of the game if the town literally didn't try to be clever and play around the soup kill. All that was required was playing as though claiming was mod killable.

I am alive because I understood this fact from the get go.

[MacDougall]

Can we stop giving a shit about claims and play Mafia? Jesus Spider Man!

tl;dr what he said

[Epignosis]

Judge Seanzie's content and see if he's genuinely trying to figure people out or skate by. I believe Seanzie has been doing the latter.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Okay, I can see the wolves thinking that is me claiming as many as three different roles. So without saying I am or am not in that group, that’s at least two potential misses at my role.

Fine.

But Mac hard claimed a specific role. So why swing and miss at me twice?

Mac is alive because the mafia wants him alive. Whatever that means.

I'm gonna say this once and once only.

The town lost this game because the town were utter idiots when it comes to claiming.

This game was eminently winnable from the start of the game if the town literally didn't try to be clever and play around the soup kill. All that was required was playing as though claiming was mod killable.

I am alive because I understood this fact from the get go.

I’m saying I haven’t roleclaimed at all lol

[MacDougall]

Surely there is Grogu spew to sort through.

[Seanzie]

someone real quick sanity check me

there are 30 roles in the OP

there are not 30 players

based on the wolf flips, the missing roles have gotta be from the wolf side and, like, one or two towns, right?

has anyone tabulated a list of confirmed roles in game, and those that have yet to flip?

There were 4 roles removed. I severely doubt that LC would remove 3 wolves and 1 town, so there are probably either (2 wolf roles removed and 2 town roles removed) or (imo more likely) (1 wolf role removed and 3 town roles removed), meaning that there are 2-3 wolves remaining (unless by some crazy chance we hit the seemer and never figured it out, but I think this is unlikely)

I have no kept track of roles which must be here.

I see you're having a hard time answering my question, "Who is bad?"

Dude, I literally answered that in my original post to Syn, before you even asked me. You aren't even bothering to read my posts at this point, which is a bad look from someone who "apparently" suspects me.

Two things:

I'm not reading most of the posts at all, and

I don't give a shit about "bad looks."

But since I have you on the horn, I'll ask about these posts in response to MacDougall (not Syn).

if Mac is confirmed town, why is he in everyone's POE

tf is going on

Because everyone left alive are either me, trolls, slankers or neg uitl

I am a slanker. hardcore didn't get engaged until like D4, but I feel like I was pretty useful D5.

But those that are saying there are only 1 or 2 wolves alive are pretty much guaranteed to be flat out wrong. There are probably 3, possibly 2 (there were 8 wolves in the original setup, we have 4 wolves flipped. It seems likely when the game went from 30 players down to 26, at least one wolf was removed. Less likely but possible, two wolves were removed. The only possible way that there is only 1 wolf left is if one of the people we voted was the seemer, but that seems extremely unlikely at this point. Much more likely is that we haven't flipped the seemer, in which case there are either 3 wolves left (if 3 town roles were removed, and 1 wolf role was removed) or less likely 2 wolves left (if 2 town roles were removed and 2 wolf roles were removed).

We should check Mac's story, but if that is un-countered, I feel good about it. I do remember talk of the scion moving around, so that role should be here.

Everyone seems to have Esooa in their PoE, which makes me worry about that.

Guillo has been super intense and Nutella seemed to think they were outed based on their night post two nights ago, but I don't see it, and Guillo pushed pretty hard on Grogu earlier than everyone else did. Maybe distancing, maybe just guillo seeing wolves where it took the rest of us longer to see.

Jack has been a bit meh. He looked good in his post spurt yesterday, pushing for a Grogu yeet, but this was after I think most of town was already there, so idk how much credit that is worth.

Epi has done nothing, isn't caught up. He is scumreading me hard. Idk if it is genuine or not, probably not at this point just considering the density of wolves.

Is that everyone? wow, okay, game small now.

So, three wolves there, if I had to guess, I'd say {Esooa, Epi, Jack}.

If I would have been the first to answer about hero shooting, I would have said Esooa, trusting some fallen camrades but at this point idk, I'm scared because of how many people are intersecting on Esooa.

I'll start with me.

Talk to me about me.

"Epi has done nothing, isn't caught up."

Would you say I had a hand in the Michelle lynch?

Would you say I had a hand in the Grogu lynch?

If I'm wrong about you having done nothing, I'll listen to contrary evidence, so feel free to present it. I don't remember you doing anything of note, aside from popping into the thread and complaining about how you don't have time to play. You are PoE'd imo.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Judge Seanzie's content and see if he's genuinely trying to figure people out or skate by. I believe Seanzie has been doing the latter.

I guess I should actually iso my poe of probably 1.

[MacDougall]

Okay, I can see the wolves thinking that is me claiming as many as three different roles. So without saying I am or am not in that group, that’s at least two potential misses at my role.

Fine.

But Mac hard claimed a specific role. So why swing and miss at me twice?

Mac is alive because the mafia wants him alive. Whatever that means.

I'm gonna say this once and once only.

The town lost this game because the town were utter idiots when it comes to claiming.

This game was eminently winnable from the start of the game if the town literally didn't try to be clever and play around the soup kill. All that was required was playing as though claiming was mod killable.

I am alive because I understood this fact from the get go.

I’m saying I haven’t roleclaimed at all lol

Good lord. You called me a dingus lol.

[Syn]

actually I have a very important question

a lot of these roles manipulate vote power

the screenshots LC has in the OP

do they include vote power changes?

how do we know when someone's vote power has applied?

I would also like to know what impacts this soup kill stuff

i've seen a couple people refuse to claim to evade the "soup kill"

how does that work

[Seanzie]

Judge Seanzie's content and see if he's genuinely trying to figure people out or skate by. I believe Seanzie has been doing the latter.

Something about pots and kettles...

[Jackofhearts2005]

Surely there is Grogu spew to sort through.

I’m drunk on the Seanzie green peek.

[MacDougall]

Anybody besides nutella, because she can't provide evidence.

Why was chardonnay the seemer?

I am the cop and they claimed to out me. Why do you think they picked me? It wasn’t a coincidence.

That's why you are bogus, Grogu.

Why?

My suspects are:

Grogu
Seanzie
nutella
MacDougall

Lol... 0/4 great job.

Epi is town

[Jackofhearts2005]

Okay, I can see the wolves thinking that is me claiming as many as three different roles. So without saying I am or am not in that group, that’s at least two potential misses at my role.

Fine.

But Mac hard claimed a specific role. So why swing and miss at me twice?

Mac is alive because the mafia wants him alive. Whatever that means.

I'm gonna say this once and once only.

The town lost this game because the town were utter idiots when it comes to claiming.

This game was eminently winnable from the start of the game if the town literally didn't try to be clever and play around the soup kill. All that was required was playing as though claiming was mod killable.

I am alive because I understood this fact from the get go.

I’m saying I haven’t roleclaimed at all lol

Good lord. You called me a dingus lol.

Meant dingo.

[MacDougall]

Why would seanzie poke holes in grogu's story if they were mafia teammates


No. Epi is just openwolfing

Vote guillo @KZA @Esooa @Seanzie @DaisyCloud

How are you not voting Grogu right now? The case on him is pretty overwhelming.

i disagree

How do you make sense of him changing story then?

I didn’t change it now. I came clean as soon as I got word from the mod that I lost my double action. Catch up

Why would seanzie poke holes in grogu's story if they were mafia teammates


No. Epi is just openwolfing

Vote guillo @KZA @Esooa @Seanzie @DaisyCloud

How are you not voting Grogu right now? The case on him is pretty overwhelming.

You are looking at this all wrong sean

Seanzie looks town off this

[Jackofhearts2005]

Yeah I’ll yeet two “mechanically confirmed” players over Epi (or Guillo). That’s how sure of my Epi townread I am.

[MacDougall]

I've made peace with the grogu yeet it's whatever. It's decently likely to be grogu esooa and tbh either way we probably lose regardless. Determinism blah blah

Even I made peace with this. I don’t see any way to help, well played wolves. Jack, epi, guillo?
Kza and Sean lock clear.

@KZA are you clearing any of esooa, jack, epi, nutella, seanzie?

Essoa is town, Sean is confirmed town. Jack and epi likely mafia here. How many are left?

Btw if you care about this. I have already selected epi as the check tonight. I was going to do jack earlier but he was a wagon so I sent epi.

So everyone is back voting me. Once again I am a wolf with every other possible wolf, how does this make any sense?

If Chardonnay is mafia why aren't you voting there?

I’m voting for jack. I was voting char before it was cool. If that’s who we decide on I’ll be happy to switch. I have zero issues with this

Jack looks clear

[MacDougall]

The noose tightens

[Epignosis]

From my recollection, the only compelling argument in favor of Seanzie being good was that Grogu checked him and therefore Seanzie is good.

Guess what?

Just got word. My fears happened and I feel like shit.
KZA is town, I am only saying this as a fact but not mechanically. I do not have a check on her.
I did receive a message telling me I had two shots of my role.
This was shortly after thread close and I was long gone.
I have asked to use it tonight or now since I wasn’t aware.
This has been denied. I go hide in a dark hole with my girl now. I have lost this game for us, I should have never had this role. Please don’t flame me, I was way over my head and I’m getting nasty looks already. I’m going to enjoy my last night with wifey, good night all. I am very sorry

Grogu "just got word" that he had two NA's. This was after like 20-30 posts into D5. I don't think Grogu would have gone that long into D5 and not noticed a message. Grogu is backtracking here.

[VOTE: Grogu] aubergine

Lies!
I got word I couldn’t use my two nas. Don’t do this.
You are putting words in my mouth. This is not nice.

remember seanzie is town if grogu is real cop

If.

After the business with chardonnary went down, Seanzie doesn't have the equity to keep Grogu alive.

These are teammates. Deal with them as such.

[MacDougall]

@KZA are you clearing any of esooa, jack, epi, nutella, seanzie?

Essoa is town, Sean is confirmed town. Jack and epi likely mafia here. How many are left?

There's this and zero clearing between Esooa/Grogu. It's probably just Esooa here.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Grogu saying they were visiting their gf and also talking about their wifey was a dead giveaway they were a wolf tbhZ

[Syn]

@KZA are you clearing any of esooa, jack, epi, nutella, seanzie?

Essoa is town, Sean is confirmed town. Jack and epi likely mafia here. How many are left?

There's this and zero clearing between Esooa/Grogu. It's probably just Esooa here.

Who is Spider-Ham and why aren't they CCing Esooa?

[Epignosis]

someone real quick sanity check me

there are 30 roles in the OP

there are not 30 players

based on the wolf flips, the missing roles have gotta be from the wolf side and, like, one or two towns, right?

has anyone tabulated a list of confirmed roles in game, and those that have yet to flip?

There were 4 roles removed. I severely doubt that LC would remove 3 wolves and 1 town, so there are probably either (2 wolf roles removed and 2 town roles removed) or (imo more likely) (1 wolf role removed and 3 town roles removed), meaning that there are 2-3 wolves remaining (unless by some crazy chance we hit the seemer and never figured it out, but I think this is unlikely)

I have no kept track of roles which must be here.

I see you're having a hard time answering my question, "Who is bad?"

Dude, I literally answered that in my original post to Syn, before you even asked me. You aren't even bothering to read my posts at this point, which is a bad look from someone who "apparently" suspects me.

Two things:

I'm not reading most of the posts at all, and

I don't give a shit about "bad looks."

But since I have you on the horn, I'll ask about these posts in response to MacDougall (not Syn).

if Mac is confirmed town, why is he in everyone's POE

tf is going on

Because everyone left alive are either me, trolls, slankers or neg uitl

I am a slanker. hardcore didn't get engaged until like D4, but I feel like I was pretty useful D5.

But those that are saying there are only 1 or 2 wolves alive are pretty much guaranteed to be flat out wrong. There are probably 3, possibly 2 (there were 8 wolves in the original setup, we have 4 wolves flipped. It seems likely when the game went from 30 players down to 26, at least one wolf was removed. Less likely but possible, two wolves were removed. The only possible way that there is only 1 wolf left is if one of the people we voted was the seemer, but that seems extremely unlikely at this point. Much more likely is that we haven't flipped the seemer, in which case there are either 3 wolves left (if 3 town roles were removed, and 1 wolf role was removed) or less likely 2 wolves left (if 2 town roles were removed and 2 wolf roles were removed).

We should check Mac's story, but if that is un-countered, I feel good about it. I do remember talk of the scion moving around, so that role should be here.

Everyone seems to have Esooa in their PoE, which makes me worry about that.

Guillo has been super intense and Nutella seemed to think they were outed based on their night post two nights ago, but I don't see it, and Guillo pushed pretty hard on Grogu earlier than everyone else did. Maybe distancing, maybe just guillo seeing wolves where it took the rest of us longer to see.

Jack has been a bit meh. He looked good in his post spurt yesterday, pushing for a Grogu yeet, but this was after I think most of town was already there, so idk how much credit that is worth.

Epi has done nothing, isn't caught up. He is scumreading me hard. Idk if it is genuine or not, probably not at this point just considering the density of wolves.

Is that everyone? wow, okay, game small now.

So, three wolves there, if I had to guess, I'd say {Esooa, Epi, Jack}.

If I would have been the first to answer about hero shooting, I would have said Esooa, trusting some fallen camrades but at this point idk, I'm scared because of how many people are intersecting on Esooa.

I'll start with me.

Talk to me about me.

"Epi has done nothing, isn't caught up."

Would you say I had a hand in the Michelle lynch?

Would you say I had a hand in the Grogu lynch?

If I'm wrong about you having done nothing, I'll listen to contrary evidence, so feel free to present it. I don't remember you doing anything of note, aside from popping into the thread and complaining about how you don't have time to play. You are PoE'd imo.

The irony is that I have over twice your post and have caught two mafia members. What have you accomplished?

[MacDougall]

I dont believe Seanzie is a wolf. I think Grogu has TMI and "green" checked Seanzie so he'd look bad later when Grogu flipped.

If TMi means confirmation from the mod then yes. I have that

I dont believe Seanzie is a wolf. I think Grogu has TMI and "green" checked Seanzie so he'd look bad later when Grogu flipped.

If TMi means confirmation from the mod then yes. I have that

Wow the derp knows what TMI is now, who knew?

Just took a guess. Well I have tmi about 3 players and myself yes.

Fine I'll vote Guilo

if Grogu is Mafia then fine I lose to his Valentine's Day story whatever this mech is hard enough without that wrench thrown in

WOW. Fuck this game. We dont deserve to win this shit. Im not playing here again.

[VOTE: Guillotina] aubergine

I gave everything i had to give to this game but the syndicate protect their own even if they are scum.

See you never!

I’m sorry friend, no one is protecting me. I am new here also

At least I'll have that little victory of not buying his fake derp play and see Grogu for what he is, mafia.

You wish. I am like the worst mafia player in the history of mafia. Trust me

Guillo is town.

Quite literally only Esooa profiles as a teammate. This should be an easy decision.

[Jackofhearts2005]

@KZA are you clearing any of esooa, jack, epi, nutella, seanzie?

Essoa is town, Sean is confirmed town. Jack and epi likely mafia here. How many are left?

There's this and zero clearing between Esooa/Grogu. It's probably just Esooa here.

What’s the counter argument to them just being Spiderham?

[MacDougall]

@KZA are you clearing any of esooa, jack, epi, nutella, seanzie?

Essoa is town, Sean is confirmed town. Jack and epi likely mafia here. How many are left?

There's this and zero clearing between Esooa/Grogu. It's probably just Esooa here.

Who is Spider-Ham and why aren't they CCing Esooa?

Where did she even claim that role?

[Epignosis]

Judge Seanzie's content and see if he's genuinely trying to figure people out or skate by. I believe Seanzie has been doing the latter.

Something about pots and kettles...

They're both used to make soup?

[Syn]

@KZA are you clearing any of esooa, jack, epi, nutella, seanzie?

Essoa is town, Sean is confirmed town. Jack and epi likely mafia here. How many are left?

There's this and zero clearing between Esooa/Grogu. It's probably just Esooa here.

Who is Spider-Ham and why aren't they CCing Esooa?

Where did she even claim that role?

bruh

[Jackofhearts2005]

Jack, who is very smart, got a great idea.

What if Mac is a wolf and GMan was the seemer?

But no, we confirmed GMan was who he said he was so that’s not a thing.

[MacDougall]

@KZA are you clearing any of esooa, jack, epi, nutella, seanzie?

Essoa is town, Sean is confirmed town. Jack and epi likely mafia here. How many are left?

There's this and zero clearing between Esooa/Grogu. It's probably just Esooa here.

What’s the counter argument to them just being Spiderham?

Okay so who is mafia?

[Jackofhearts2005]

@KZA are you clearing any of esooa, jack, epi, nutella, seanzie?

Essoa is town, Sean is confirmed town. Jack and epi likely mafia here. How many are left?

There's this and zero clearing between Esooa/Grogu. It's probably just Esooa here.

Who is Spider-Ham and why aren't they CCing Esooa?

Where did she even claim that role?

Like 20 min ago?

[MacDougall]

@KZA are you clearing any of esooa, jack, epi, nutella, seanzie?

Essoa is town, Sean is confirmed town. Jack and epi likely mafia here. How many are left?

There's this and zero clearing between Esooa/Grogu. It's probably just Esooa here.

Who is Spider-Ham and why aren't they CCing Esooa?

Where did she even claim that role?

bruh

Bruh what? You've been here for 100 minutes don't sass me brah.

[Jackofhearts2005]

@KZA are you clearing any of esooa, jack, epi, nutella, seanzie?

Essoa is town, Sean is confirmed town. Jack and epi likely mafia here. How many are left?

There's this and zero clearing between Esooa/Grogu. It's probably just Esooa here.

What’s the counter argument to them just being Spiderham?

Okay so who is mafia?

Seanzie?

[MacDougall]

@KZA are you clearing any of esooa, jack, epi, nutella, seanzie?

Essoa is town, Sean is confirmed town. Jack and epi likely mafia here. How many are left?

There's this and zero clearing between Esooa/Grogu. It's probably just Esooa here.

Who is Spider-Ham and why aren't they CCing Esooa?

Where did she even claim that role?

Like 20 min ago?

Maybe it's just a wolf role.

Esooa looks like a slam dunk Grogu partner.

[Seanzie]

someone real quick sanity check me

there are 30 roles in the OP

there are not 30 players

based on the wolf flips, the missing roles have gotta be from the wolf side and, like, one or two towns, right?

has anyone tabulated a list of confirmed roles in game, and those that have yet to flip?

There were 4 roles removed. I severely doubt that LC would remove 3 wolves and 1 town, so there are probably either (2 wolf roles removed and 2 town roles removed) or (imo more likely) (1 wolf role removed and 3 town roles removed), meaning that there are 2-3 wolves remaining (unless by some crazy chance we hit the seemer and never figured it out, but I think this is unlikely)

I have no kept track of roles which must be here.

I see you're having a hard time answering my question, "Who is bad?"

Dude, I literally answered that in my original post to Syn, before you even asked me. You aren't even bothering to read my posts at this point, which is a bad look from someone who "apparently" suspects me.

Two things:

I'm not reading most of the posts at all, and

I don't give a shit about "bad looks."

But since I have you on the horn, I'll ask about these posts in response to MacDougall (not Syn).

if Mac is confirmed town, why is he in everyone's POE

tf is going on

Because everyone left alive are either me, trolls, slankers or neg uitl

I am a slanker. hardcore didn't get engaged until like D4, but I feel like I was pretty useful D5.

But those that are saying there are only 1 or 2 wolves alive are pretty much guaranteed to be flat out wrong. There are probably 3, possibly 2 (there were 8 wolves in the original setup, we have 4 wolves flipped. It seems likely when the game went from 30 players down to 26, at least one wolf was removed. Less likely but possible, two wolves were removed. The only possible way that there is only 1 wolf left is if one of the people we voted was the seemer, but that seems extremely unlikely at this point. Much more likely is that we haven't flipped the seemer, in which case there are either 3 wolves left (if 3 town roles were removed, and 1 wolf role was removed) or less likely 2 wolves left (if 2 town roles were removed and 2 wolf roles were removed).

We should check Mac's story, but if that is un-countered, I feel good about it. I do remember talk of the scion moving around, so that role should be here.

Everyone seems to have Esooa in their PoE, which makes me worry about that.

Guillo has been super intense and Nutella seemed to think they were outed based on their night post two nights ago, but I don't see it, and Guillo pushed pretty hard on Grogu earlier than everyone else did. Maybe distancing, maybe just guillo seeing wolves where it took the rest of us longer to see.

Jack has been a bit meh. He looked good in his post spurt yesterday, pushing for a Grogu yeet, but this was after I think most of town was already there, so idk how much credit that is worth.

Epi has done nothing, isn't caught up. He is scumreading me hard. Idk if it is genuine or not, probably not at this point just considering the density of wolves.

Is that everyone? wow, okay, game small now.

So, three wolves there, if I had to guess, I'd say {Esooa, Epi, Jack}.

If I would have been the first to answer about hero shooting, I would have said Esooa, trusting some fallen camrades but at this point idk, I'm scared because of how many people are intersecting on Esooa.

I'll start with me.

Talk to me about me.

"Epi has done nothing, isn't caught up."

Would you say I had a hand in the Michelle lynch?

Would you say I had a hand in the Grogu lynch?

If I'm wrong about you having done nothing, I'll listen to contrary evidence, so feel free to present it. I don't remember you doing anything of note, aside from popping into the thread and complaining about how you don't have time to play. You are PoE'd imo.

The irony is that I have over twice your post and have caught two mafia members. What have you accomplished?

Tell me about how you "caught" Grogu? What were your thoughts there? Spell it out to me. Please. In detail. It should clear you if you show your process, right?

[Syn]

actually I have a very important question

a lot of these roles manipulate vote power

the screenshots LC has in the OP

do they include vote power changes?

how do we know when someone's vote power has applied?

I would also like to know what impacts this soup kill stuff

i've seen a couple people refuse to claim to evade the "soup kill"

how does that work