Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[tutuu]

Thanks for finding two wolves without any help at all from me.

youre welcome jackie im here to carry the town by myself any day!

[nutella]

I am now a vig and I am gonna shoot Empoof!!!!

or more likely Made.

Anyone with a really good argument for why I should shoot someone else, ping me before nightfall.

if u are real vig why claim 1 hour after day start and not try to fight a bit and see if u dont have to claim? coz if ur real town vig and made is mafia ur vig isn't going thru most likely and u would know that

i think u are lying!!!!

mmm

[Timsup2nothin]

"I am now a vig is an interesting way to say it.

I needed time to charge weapons. So I chose the annoying intentional slank as a way to avoid the NK. I'm usually towny enough to avoid rational cases so I figured I'd make it at least far enough to get off one shot, claim it, and eat a night kill. That's good enough contribution from me I think.

[tedxtr]

on second thought, that team actually sounds pretty hype

[nutella]

I am now a vig and I am gonna shoot Empoof!!!!

or more likely Made.

Anyone with a really good argument for why I should shoot someone else, ping me before nightfall.

ngl, I really want to counter claim this

ahhahhaha

[Long Con]

You charge up like Kyle?

[Made]

"I am now a vig is an interesting way to say it.

I needed time to charge weapons. So I chose the annoying intentional slank as a way to avoid the NK. I'm usually towny enough to avoid rational cases so I figured I'd make it at least far enough to get off one shot, claim it, and eat a night kill. That's good enough contribution from me I think.

What are odds Mafia got fake roles to claim in a closed set up game?

[Justplayingitcool]

I am now a vig and I am gonna shoot Empoof!!!!

or more likely Made.

Anyone with a really good argument for why I should shoot someone else, ping me before nightfall.

if u are real vig why claim 1 hour after day start and not try to fight a bit and see if u dont have to claim? coz if ur real town vig and made is mafia ur vig isn't going thru most likely and u would know that

i think u are lying!!!!

Why would Tim know the vig wouldn’t go through?

[hollowkatt]

I voted made before I left the thread and when I did I thought they were wolfy. You holding ghosting the last several hours of the day against me? That's fine. Are you prepared to eat crow when you're wrong?

Re: tutuu - put yourself into my shoes and assume I'm town for a hot second. I roll into D3 having not been here for the last several hours of D2 to find tutuu shrieking that HK is a wolf, yeah? Do you not have any thoughts, if you were in my shoes, that they're a wolf pushing what appears to be an easy miselimination?

I haven't read anything from D1 before I joined other than the 15 or so posts from cats ISO. I have no idea what my slot was doing or why. All I know is who I am, and that I'm being pushed for what I perceive are poor reasons.

I'd be willing to bet I'm not the leading vote getter at the end of the day.

Made point - im referring to your vite you just made now unless my eyes deceived me

Tutuu - thats just tutuu behaviour and she did provide a reason. The interaction between you and marmot

Dya - and yet they were night killed.

tutuu - sorry, "that's just tutuu" isn't something I accept and is something I actively ignore or discard.
I voted made b/c I trust Tim more than I trust made. I don't think wolf?Tim plays this day this way thus far. Made on the other hand has roared into the thread gunning for Tim to be dead and I think that's a sign that made recognizes a threat there that needs to be eliminated. Call it a gut feeling if you want to, I think it's accurate

dya dying after suspecting my slot is what it is and there's nothing I can do to argue against it so I'm assuming it's a kill designed to get me shaded to make it easier for me to go over.
Like even if I post my way out of the hole today there's always going to be that "but dya..." hanging over my head that some opportunistic wolf can latch on to, especially if a villager starts the push, to get me to go over. So I'm playing as if that has no bearing on me because functionally it doesn't.
I either save myself by finding wolves, or I die. Seems pretty simple to me.

Currently I think there's one between Tim and Made, and I think it's Made, hence the vote. I also think Tutuu pushing me for the weak reasons they've expressed is wolf indicative. You're being slightly more reasonable about it, which is why I'm not wolf reading you as well. You're at least engaging and willing to lay things out for me, tutuu is not.

[tedxtr]

ok yeah i think lc is just town

always reminding myself that this game would be way easier if people talked about their suspicions

this only works for other people and not me, obviously

[hollowkatt]

hk i think lc’s probably misreading me upon him actually speaking about it

and the alison line is also pretty lol for a wolf to make but i may be a suckah for his other recent posts

ok, gotcha.

[Made]

I voted made before I left the thread and when I did I thought they were wolfy. You holding ghosting the last several hours of the day against me? That's fine. Are you prepared to eat crow when you're wrong?

Re: tutuu - put yourself into my shoes and assume I'm town for a hot second. I roll into D3 having not been here for the last several hours of D2 to find tutuu shrieking that HK is a wolf, yeah? Do you not have any thoughts, if you were in my shoes, that they're a wolf pushing what appears to be an easy miselimination?

I haven't read anything from D1 before I joined other than the 15 or so posts from cats ISO. I have no idea what my slot was doing or why. All I know is who I am, and that I'm being pushed for what I perceive are poor reasons.

I'd be willing to bet I'm not the leading vote getter at the end of the day.

Made point - im referring to your vite you just made now unless my eyes deceived me

Tutuu - thats just tutuu behaviour and she did provide a reason. The interaction between you and marmot

Dya - and yet they were night killed.

tutuu - sorry, "that's just tutuu" isn't something I accept and is something I actively ignore or discard.
I voted made b/c I trust Tim more than I trust made. I don't think wolf?Tim plays this day this way thus far. Made on the other hand has roared into the thread gunning for Tim to be dead and I think that's a sign that made recognizes a threat there that needs to be eliminated. Call it a gut feeling if you want to, I think it's accurate

dya dying after suspecting my slot is what it is and there's nothing I can do to argue against it so I'm assuming it's a kill designed to get me shaded to make it easier for me to go over.
Like even if I post my way out of the hole today there's always going to be that "but dya..." hanging over my head that some opportunistic wolf can latch on to, especially if a villager starts the push, to get me to go over. So I'm playing as if that has no bearing on me because functionally it doesn't.
I either save myself by finding wolves, or I die. Seems pretty simple to me.

Currently I think there's one between Tim and Made, and I think it's Made, hence the vote. I also think Tutuu pushing me for the weak reasons they've expressed is wolf indicative. You're being slightly more reasonable about it, which is why I'm not wolf reading you as well. You're at least engaging and willing to lay things out for me, tutuu is not.

that's not fair. Tim started it

[hollowkatt]

Spoiler: show

now would be a fun time for a vig shot. make things ~e x c i t i n g~

It would be, but you have to wait for tonight. That gives you 47 hours to convince me not to shoot you, or to convince the dumb town to chop their vigilante, your choice. This is where I planed on starting to read, because this is where I expected I would be trying to figure out who to shoot...but I am pretty satisfied.

Congratulations to me, I lived long enough that I think I get a shot off before I get NKed...but of course bad town barely let me get this far and still may get in the way.

see, the problem is i am willing to push that boat

Aaaaaand...this is a problem how, exactly?

if ur town, we lose a town (you), if ur not town, we lose a town(me).

the problem is I am willing to try those odds

Same
[VOTE: made] aubergine

the actual fuck

We've met.

[Long Con]

I made a joke but I actually decided I should understand "Empoof", and I don't at the moment.

[tutuu]

"I am now a vig is an interesting way to say it.

I needed time to charge weapons. So I chose the annoying intentional slank as a way to avoid the NK. I'm usually towny enough to avoid rational cases so I figured I'd make it at least far enough to get off one shot, claim it, and eat a night kill. That's good enough contribution from me I think.

What are odds Mafia got fake roles to claim in a closed set up game?

id always provide fake claims in closed setups but its also nice to announce that in the OP i think

anyway like

i dont think its towny for tim to claim now, or claim at all

nutella didnt even tunnel him that much i dont think, i think if tim is town he does maybe claim here eventually after giving up. but does town tim give up so easily? after 1 hour and 20 mins of day start?

claiming like that in everyones faces isnt real imo

last time i saw someone fake claim a roleblocker and they publicly said in big bold red letters " I AM ROLEBLOCKING STAYPOSITIVEFRIEND" during the day with multiple mafia alive in a closed setup game and they were obviously mafia

[hollowkatt]

Spoiler: show

I am now a vig and I am gonna shoot Empoof!!!!

or more likely Made.

Anyone with a really good argument for why I should shoot someone else, ping me before nightfall.

if u are real vig why claim 1 hour after day start and not try to fight a bit and see if u dont have to claim? coz if ur real town vig and made is mafia ur vig isn't going thru most likely and u would know that

i think u are lying!!!!

Because I already claimed yesterday and I am pretty sure the wolves already figured it out. So the whole drama of fending off really bad wolf reads from town at this point is beyond my level of interest. Nutella level tunneling on her feelie reads and narrative conf biasing is just too annoying.

Tell the town what the wolves probably know already, let the chips fall where they may. If they spend their role blocker on me they can't spend it anywhere else...and really they probably have to just kill me so they can't kill someone else either. I can accept that.

u said ur a PR, everyone is a PR, i dont think anyone would reasoanbly think ur vig

i think that the way youre repeating that youre annoyed seems to me like you're faking it, like ur trying to make it the focal point, i think its different when compared to urself in radiohead and in general from my experience of townies being annoyed

i am gonna vote u sorry if wrong!

[VOTE: Tim] aubergine

Tim PR hiding till he doesn't and then daring wolves to kill him jibes. just sayin

[Long Con]

Jibes... as in you think it's town?

[tutuu]

I am now a vig and I am gonna shoot Empoof!!!!

or more likely Made.

Anyone with a really good argument for why I should shoot someone else, ping me before nightfall.

if u are real vig why claim 1 hour after day start and not try to fight a bit and see if u dont have to claim? coz if ur real town vig and made is mafia ur vig isn't going thru most likely and u would know that

i think u are lying!!!!

Why would Tim know the vig wouldn’t go through?

its a closed setup role madness game, u dont think scum would have 0 tools to stop a vig shot if they know A was town vig and he announced to shoot B the wolf, all information public?

[Made]

"I am now a vig is an interesting way to say it.

I needed time to charge weapons. So I chose the annoying intentional slank as a way to avoid the NK. I'm usually towny enough to avoid rational cases so I figured I'd make it at least far enough to get off one shot, claim it, and eat a night kill. That's good enough contribution from me I think.

What are odds Mafia got fake roles to claim in a closed set up game?

id always provide fake claims in closed setups but its also nice to announce that in the OP i think

anyway like

i dont think its towny for tim to claim now, or claim at all

nutella didnt even tunnel him that much i dont think, i think if tim is town he does maybe claim here eventually after giving up. but does town tim give up so easily? after 1 hour and 20 mins of day start?

claiming like that in everyones faces isnt real imo

last time i saw someone fake claim a roleblocker and they publicly said in big bold red letters " I AM ROLEBLOCKING STAYPOSITIVEFRIEND" during the day with multiple mafia alive in a closed setup game and they were obviously mafia

my issue here is Tim's actions from my pov don't make any sense from either town or mafia perspective. In situations like that, for me anyways, I'm led me to think they're probably town.

[nutella]

now would be a fun time for a vig shot. make things ~e x c i t i n g~

It would be, but you have to wait for tonight. That gives you 47 hours to convince me not to shoot you, or to convince the dumb town to chop their vigilante, your choice. This is where I planed on starting to read, because this is where I expected I would be trying to figure out who to shoot...but I am pretty satisfied.

Congratulations to me, I lived long enough that I think I get a shot off before I get NKed...but of course bad town barely let me get this far and still may get in the way.

oh lord

You should have seen this coming yesterday. If you had puzzled it out I probably would have played this a lot differently, but going straight back into your tunnel sort of made this look like the better plan.

why do you think anyone would figure out you were claiming vig

quote the softs


and not just the thing where you said youre a pr or whatever bc everyone is and last time someone slipped not knowing that was mafia sloon in shadow corridors

[tedxtr]

voted wilgy now and i really have to go, it’s 3AM

laterz

[Timsup2nothin]

also rn I'm only half in thread, half on the other side of a bong

but Tim, how is town bad this game? we got 2 back to back baddie kills

Mac I credit for that...you on the other hand want to kill me for spite, and Nutella has gone on a tunnel rampage that is flatly hilarious given that she is one of two people in this game who has in fact seen me play this way before...as a town PR trying to live long enough to be useful.

Tutuu I think is pretty well open wolfing and getting town read for it, and then openly mocking people for town reading her for it. And most of the rest are apparently slanking and waiting for a mech solve to absolve them of responsibility. So, yeah, here we are...and if the wolves convince the town to chop a claimed vig...cherry on top.

[nutella]

do not shoot made

this is a hard request from your town leader

SECONDED AS DEPUTY IN CHEIF

thirded as the ..... ummmm.... janitor on duty?

thats a mafia role vote tutuu

[tutuu]

Spoiler: show

I am now a vig and I am gonna shoot Empoof!!!!

or more likely Made.

Anyone with a really good argument for why I should shoot someone else, ping me before nightfall.

if u are real vig why claim 1 hour after day start and not try to fight a bit and see if u dont have to claim? coz if ur real town vig and made is mafia ur vig isn't going thru most likely and u would know that

i think u are lying!!!!

Because I already claimed yesterday and I am pretty sure the wolves already figured it out. So the whole drama of fending off really bad wolf reads from town at this point is beyond my level of interest. Nutella level tunneling on her feelie reads and narrative conf biasing is just too annoying.

Tell the town what the wolves probably know already, let the chips fall where they may. If they spend their role blocker on me they can't spend it anywhere else...and really they probably have to just kill me so they can't kill someone else either. I can accept that.

u said ur a PR, everyone is a PR, i dont think anyone would reasoanbly think ur vig

i think that the way youre repeating that youre annoyed seems to me like you're faking it, like ur trying to make it the focal point, i think its different when compared to urself in radiohead and in general from my experience of townies being annoyed

i am gonna vote u sorry if wrong!

[VOTE: Tim] aubergine

Tim PR hiding till he doesn't and then daring wolves to kill him jibes. just sayin

PR hiding doesnt mean anything to me, its a role madness game

are you saying that you think Tim is fakeclaiming vig and hoping to eat a night kill? as town? i guess if he's town thats possible. but tim is never town vig here

[nutella]

fwiw, Tim is probably town here, pushing me hard would be a really bizzare move for baddies

i kinda think so too but like

ugh

it's so annoying lol

hk too, and hk is giving me weird vibes in his reaction the ted/lc stuff (not that i fully followed that myself tbh, but hk seems to be tagging on for a reason to push lc)

[Justplayingitcool]

I am now a vig and I am gonna shoot Empoof!!!!

or more likely Made.

Anyone with a really good argument for why I should shoot someone else, ping me before nightfall.

if u are real vig why claim 1 hour after day start and not try to fight a bit and see if u dont have to claim? coz if ur real town vig and made is mafia ur vig isn't going thru most likely and u would know that

i think u are lying!!!!

Why would Tim know the vig wouldn’t go through?

its a closed setup role madness game, u dont think scum would have 0 tools to stop a vig shot if they know A was town vig and he announced to shoot B the wolf, all information public?

He would suspect I imagine, but it sounded like you were saying he should know for definite unless I misunderstood

[tutuu]

if tim is town vig im gonna eat my sock and record myself and post it here

[hollowkatt]

am i going insane

explain how marmot and made are partners

tim and hk are friends right? so maybe when hk saw he randed w/w with tim he was like yolo im gonna hard buddy tim, ride or die baby

or he could be town pocketed but. i hope he's scum

Yeah, Tim and I are friends, and we've got a lot of games together. I've wolfed against him, and been town with him, and wolfed with him. Still don't think we've had town HK vs Wolf Tim tho.
That said, if I'm wolfing here why do I hard buddy Tim, if he's already suspected, and if he was one of the higher vote getters D2? Wouldn't you think it would be more advantageous for the two of us to bicker about things, distance, and go our own ways on our own pushes? That way the only associatives you can build are the lack of associatives, right?

Maybe I'm wrong on Tim, sure. I'll be the first to admit of all the people I play regularly with Tim is the one I have the most fear about. But I am just not feeling wolf Tim here.

[Hyena]

Cat(10): Nute, Nanook, Tutuu, Made, Ted, Falcon, Mac, Tim, Dizzy, Marmot

Marmot(10): Sloonei, Mac, Made, Nute, Tim, Radish, Martin, JPIC, Hyena, Syn

Nute, Made, Time, and Mac are the four people that were on both EoD scum wagons. I was already townreading all four of them, but I think this strengthens my townreads on all four of them (well, Mac is confirmed town now since he'd dead, but still!).

On the other hand, Nanook, Tutuu, Ted, Falcon, Dizzy, and Marmot were on the D1 wagon that yeeted a scum, but weren't on the D2 wagon. One of these people (Marmot) has flipped scum. If there were any other bussers on Cat, I'd look at these six people first and foremost because I don't think scum would want to lose two teammates in a row, and thus wouldn't be on Marmot's wagon EoD2?

[tutuu]

I am now a vig and I am gonna shoot Empoof!!!!

or more likely Made.

Anyone with a really good argument for why I should shoot someone else, ping me before nightfall.

if u are real vig why claim 1 hour after day start and not try to fight a bit and see if u dont have to claim? coz if ur real town vig and made is mafia ur vig isn't going thru most likely and u would know that

i think u are lying!!!!

Why would Tim know the vig wouldn’t go through?

its a closed setup role madness game, u dont think scum would have 0 tools to stop a vig shot if they know A was town vig and he announced to shoot B the wolf, all information public?

He would suspect I imagine, but it sounded like you were saying he should know for definite unless I misunderstood

i am confident that scum would have at least some form of disruption in a 27 player game, so confident that i worded it as a fact!

[nutella]

tim why tf would you still shoot made after the marmot flip

do you not see how marmot spewed made town

No but if you explain it to me I will certainly take it into consideration. I was giving you credit for the Marmot flip and see no particular reason to exclude anyone else from having bused, by the way. So now you are acceptably THE town core IMO and I will be cheerfully your hit man on demand for as long as I last, or just shoot counterwagons...whatever...but you have to really convince me about this Made business first.

literally my reasons for voting marmot shared a lot with my reasons on you which presupposed made town and wolves looking for the mischop there based on the cat association

this shouldnt be hard i said it a bunch of times yesterday

[Hyena]

Cat(10): Nute, Nanook, Tutuu, Made, Ted, Falcon, Mac, Tim, Dizzy, Marmot

Marmot(10): Sloonei, Mac, Made, Nute, Tim, Radish, Martin, JPIC, Hyena, Syn

Nute, Made, Time, and Mac are the four people that were on both EoD scum wagons. I was already townreading all four of them, but I think this strengthens my townreads on all four of them (well, Mac is confirmed town now since he'd dead, but still!).

On the other hand, Nanook, Tutuu, Ted, Falcon, Dizzy, and Marmot were on the D1 wagon that yeeted a scum, but weren't on the D2 wagon. One of these people (Marmot) has flipped scum. If there were any other bussers on Cat, I'd look at these six people first and foremost because I don't think scum would want to lose two teammates in a row, and thus wouldn't be on Marmot's wagon EoD2?

Tim** rather!

[tutuu]

do not shoot made

this is a hard request from your town leader

SECONDED AS DEPUTY IN CHEIF

thirded as the ..... ummmm.... janitor on duty?

thats a mafia role vote tutuu

noooo nooo no no no i just scrub the toilets i dont do anything bad

[nutella]

Are hk/ted/tim partners

Hmmmmthinking

i like ted i think he's town

maybe dizzy maf coz he killed dya n1 coz most other players here dont have that much experience with dya and wouldnt likely to kill them that much n1 coz they havent heard about them? (credit to nutella for making this read first or whoever did it first i dont mean to steal it )

[Timsup2nothin]

You charge up like Kyle?

Well, I didn't need to be silent...I'm just a "starts N3 vig." There is some charging weapons in the flavor, but I'm not gonna go into great detail here.

[Made]

also rn I'm only half in thread, half on the other side of a bong

but Tim, how is town bad this game? we got 2 back to back baddie kills

Mac I credit for that...you on the other hand want to kill me for spite, and Nutella has gone on a tunnel rampage that is flatly hilarious given that she is one of two people in this game who has in fact seen me play this way before...as a town PR trying to live long enough to be useful.

Tutuu I think is pretty well open wolfing and getting town read for it, and then openly mocking people for town reading her for it. And most of the rest are apparently slanking and waiting for a mech solve to absolve them of responsibility. So, yeah, here we are...and if the wolves convince the town to chop a claimed vig...cherry on top.

I mean okay, I do want to spite dunk. Yes. but like, one good town does not a strong town make, nor does one incompetent make a weak town. Both marmot and Cat were chopped in fairly large wagons.

for me, right now, I think it's more likely that you're not bad than are. so i'll ask you take a step back and reeval. if all three people you're sussing--me, nutella, tutuu-- were bad, it would be stupid for all three of us to push you right now, especially since we'd know for sure you're town, and it'd be a mislynch.
Outside of the 3 of us, where are you looking?

[tutuu]

"I am now a vig is an interesting way to say it.

I needed time to charge weapons. So I chose the annoying intentional slank as a way to avoid the NK. I'm usually towny enough to avoid rational cases so I figured I'd make it at least far enough to get off one shot, claim it, and eat a night kill. That's good enough contribution from me I think.

What are odds Mafia got fake roles to claim in a closed set up game?

id always provide fake claims in closed setups but its also nice to announce that in the OP i think

anyway like

i dont think its towny for tim to claim now, or claim at all

nutella didnt even tunnel him that much i dont think, i think if tim is town he does maybe claim here eventually after giving up. but does town tim give up so easily? after 1 hour and 20 mins of day start?

claiming like that in everyones faces isnt real imo

last time i saw someone fake claim a roleblocker and they publicly said in big bold red letters " I AM ROLEBLOCKING STAYPOSITIVEFRIEND" during the day with multiple mafia alive in a closed setup game and they were obviously mafia

my issue here is Tim's actions from my pov don't make any sense from either town or mafia perspective. In situations like that, for me anyways, I'm led me to think they're probably town.

i see what u mean

i think player experience ... i mean i take player experience into account

if player is unexperienced and nothing they do make sense theyre probably town for it

is player is experienced and nothing they do make sense theyre probably scum for it

generally

(tim is veteran )

[Timsup2nothin]

I made a joke but I actually decided I should understand "Empoof", and I don't at the moment.

"I'm the vig and I'm shooting Empoof" is a meme line on MU that was originally said by someone I have played with.

[Hyena]

Cat(10): Nute, Nanook, Tutuu, Made, Ted, Falcon, Mac, Tim, Dizzy, Marmot

Marmot(10): Sloonei, Mac, Made, Nute, Tim, Radish, Martin, JPIC, Hyena, Syn

Nute, Made, Time, and Mac are the four people that were on both EoD scum wagons. I was already townreading all four of them, but I think this strengthens my townreads on all four of them (well, Mac is confirmed town now since he'd dead, but still!).

On the other hand, Nanook, Tutuu, Ted, Falcon, Dizzy, and Marmot were on the D1 wagon that yeeted a scum, but weren't on the D2 wagon. One of these people (Marmot) has flipped scum. If there were any other bussers on Cat, I'd look at these six people first and foremost because I don't think scum would want to lose two teammates in a row, and thus wouldn't be on Marmot's wagon EoD2?

Also, I might move Martin up to null. I don't want to scumread anyone that was on the Marmot wagon right now.

[hollowkatt]

i don’t think he’s walking it back in there, though? it’s actually sarcastically emphasizing them?

wat

fuck I dunno, I'm just posting what I think about things when I read them.

[Made]

Cat(10): Nute, Nanook, Tutuu, Made, Ted, Falcon, Mac, Tim, Dizzy, Marmot

Marmot(10): Sloonei, Mac, Made, Nute, Tim, Radish, Martin, JPIC, Hyena, Syn

Nute, Made, Time, and Mac are the four people that were on both EoD scum wagons. I was already townreading all four of them, but I think this strengthens my townreads on all four of them (well, Mac is confirmed town now since he'd dead, but still!).

On the other hand, Nanook, Tutuu, Ted, Falcon, Dizzy, and Marmot were on the D1 wagon that yeeted a scum, but weren't on the D2 wagon. One of these people (Marmot) has flipped scum. If there were any other bussers on Cat, I'd look at these six people first and foremost because I don't think scum would want to lose two teammates in a row, and thus wouldn't be on Marmot's wagon EoD2?

to be fair, I switched when the vote was inevitable on Marmot. We're probably gonna wanna look at vote changes through out the day. Speaking of which....

[hollowkatt]

Are hk/ted/tim partners

Hmmmmthinking

yeppers

we’re trying to hard spew LC as you can tell

this

[Made]

Cat(10): Nute, Nanook, Tutuu, Made, Ted, Falcon, Mac, Tim, Dizzy, Marmot

Marmot(10): Sloonei, Mac, Made, Nute, Tim, Radish, Martin, JPIC, Hyena, Syn

Nute, Made, Time, and Mac are the four people that were on both EoD scum wagons. I was already townreading all four of them, but I think this strengthens my townreads on all four of them (well, Mac is confirmed town now since he'd dead, but still!).

On the other hand, Nanook, Tutuu, Ted, Falcon, Dizzy, and Marmot were on the D1 wagon that yeeted a scum, but weren't on the D2 wagon. One of these people (Marmot) has flipped scum. If there were any other bussers on Cat, I'd look at these six people first and foremost because I don't think scum would want to lose two teammates in a row, and thus wouldn't be on Marmot's wagon EoD2?

to be fair, I switched when the vote was inevitable on Marmot. We're probably gonna wanna look at vote changes through out the day. Speaking of which....

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Who should get off the phone?

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Made
0
No votes


Voters: None

MartinGG99
1
6%


Voters: Syn

Master Radishes
0
No votes


Voters: None

Michelle
0
No votes


Voters: None

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes


Voters: None

nutella
0
No votes


Voters: None

Sloonei
0
No votes


Voters: None

Syn
0
No votes


Voters: None

hollowkatt
2
13%


Voters: Kylemii, Justplayingitcool

Timsup2nothin
3
19%


Voters: tutuu, Made, nutella

TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes


Voters: None

tedxtr
1
6%


Voters: Long Con

tutuu
1
6%


Voters: hollowkatt

No vote
1
6%


Voters: Timsup2nothin

No elimination
0
No votes


Voters: None

Mac's Mom (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
5
31%


Voters: Marmot, MacDougall, c4e5g3d5, JaggedJimmyJay, Epignosis


Total votes: 16

Vote count VC yktv

[Jackofhearts2005]

Thanks for finding two wolves without any help at all from me.

youre welcome jackie im here to carry the town by myself any day!

[hollowkatt]

Are hk/ted/tim partners

Hmmmmthinking

i like ted i think he's town

maybe dizzy maf coz he killed dya n1 coz most other players here dont have that much experience with dya and wouldnt likely to kill them that much n1 coz they havent heard about them? (credit to nutella for making this read first or whoever did it first i dont mean to steal it )

I would straight up kill the following N1: Tim, Dya, Nutella, Mac, Syn, Michelle, Nanook, maybe dizzy

[hollowkatt]

Oh and 4) dya was night killed n1 who heavily suspected your slot

ok, so let me see if i have this right.

1. Dya thought slot was a wolf, is dead now.
2. weird interaction (only one pointed out thus far) between slot and marmot
3. was not here for last several hours of D2 when apparently made started to look more townie after I'd voted for him.
4. tutuu is town.

Is that an accurate representation of "the case" you've got?

I have no counter argument to point 1. That is what it is and if it hangs me I'll accept that. I think it's dumb, but if that's relatively typical here ok.
Point 2 also is what it is.
Point 3 I think is super lazy but I'm confident I can post my way out of that.
Point 4 is moot to me. I don't know what you appear to know and won't play as if I do.

Im on mobile so will go over interactions tomorrow

Again im referring to your made vote this phase. He’s spewed town

Well tell him to stop being wolfy then

[hollowkatt]

apparently he left the thread

LC, you’ve wolfed with me before. i have a hard time believing you’d think i’m a wolf if that’s the reason. plus, your response to my post has been literally saying “yeah, i forgot why i did this” and are now omgusing me for a reason that makes no sense fmpov. and you not interacting with me at all even though it sucks is a bad sign too.

maybe i’m wrong but you haven’t been trying to interact with me at all when there’s literally no reason for you to think i’m mafia here afaict.

What do you mean "interact with you"?

you’ve only been saying i’m mafia for silly reasons but you haven’t genuinely looked into my slot’s alignment at all even though you felt like i was a wolf

did you feel like i was so “outed” that questions towards me weren’t necessary? or asking me to elaborate on my thoughts of you?

Maybe my reasons are silly. I'm sorry, but where do I look for your "slot's alignment"? I thought it might be where you sounded fake or were acting in a way that made me suspicious, but I guess I was wrong. No biggie, it happens.

I don't have any questions. Why should I have questions? Elaborate away if you like, man, you don't need my permission.

this rubs me wrong: The first set of sentences feel like a snarky way of backpeddling away from a read that you're getting resistance from, and the second set is just weird.
Do you think tedxtr is wolfing, and if so, why?

You didn't read the light sarcasm correctly. Yes, I think he's a wolf. This is how I read people.

thank you. I am bad at reading sarcasm. Using it I'm great at tho

[Made]

"I am now a vig is an interesting way to say it.

I needed time to charge weapons. So I chose the annoying intentional slank as a way to avoid the NK. I'm usually towny enough to avoid rational cases so I figured I'd make it at least far enough to get off one shot, claim it, and eat a night kill. That's good enough contribution from me I think.

What are odds Mafia got fake roles to claim in a closed set up game?

id always provide fake claims in closed setups but its also nice to announce that in the OP i think

anyway like

i dont think its towny for tim to claim now, or claim at all

nutella didnt even tunnel him that much i dont think, i think if tim is town he does maybe claim here eventually after giving up. but does town tim give up so easily? after 1 hour and 20 mins of day start?

claiming like that in everyones faces isnt real imo

last time i saw someone fake claim a roleblocker and they publicly said in big bold red letters " I AM ROLEBLOCKING STAYPOSITIVEFRIEND" during the day with multiple mafia alive in a closed setup game and they were obviously mafia

my issue here is Tim's actions from my pov don't make any sense from either town or mafia perspective. In situations like that, for me anyways, I'm led me to think they're probably town.

i see what u mean

i think player experience ... i mean i take player experience into account

if player is unexperienced and nothing they do make sense theyre probably town for it

is player is experienced and nothing they do make sense theyre probably scum for it

generally

(tim is veteran )

iunno. Last time I used this maneuver was on martin in Bastards. Good players can out think themselves sometimes

[Justplayingitcool]

Cat(10): Nute, Nanook, Tutuu, Made, Ted, Falcon, Mac, Tim, Dizzy, Marmot

Marmot(10): Sloonei, Mac, Made, Nute, Tim, Radish, Martin, JPIC, Hyena, Syn

Nute, Made, Time, and Mac are the four people that were on both EoD scum wagons. I was already townreading all four of them, but I think this strengthens my townreads on all four of them (well, Mac is confirmed town now since he'd dead, but still!).

On the other hand, Nanook, Tutuu, Ted, Falcon, Dizzy, and Marmot were on the D1 wagon that yeeted a scum, but weren't on the D2 wagon. One of these people (Marmot) has flipped scum. If there were any other bussers on Cat, I'd look at these six people first and foremost because I don't think scum would want to lose two teammates in a row, and thus wouldn't be on Marmot's wagon EoD2?

to be fair, I switched when the vote was inevitable on Marmot. We're probably gonna wanna look at vote changes through out the day. Speaking of which....

Yes, and tim voted after I asked help with my role

[nutella]

Nutella has gone on a tunnel rampage that is flatly hilarious given that she is one of two people in this game who has in fact seen me play this way before...as a town PR trying to live long enough to be useful.

okay fuck this

first of all

i am not on a "tunnel rampage"

i think this may be town indicative but it's bad play

and this is not like the other time i saw you pr

like tutuu said i don't understand why you claimed at sod

it's bizarre and suboptimal imo