Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I read very little of spider verse after I died

[nutella]

mafia is entirely memes we have all done this before and we will do it all again


or something idk anyway gonna go sleep for like 12 hours cya

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Imagine being able to sleep for 12 hours

Must be nice

[Justplayingitcool]

If I had my way we would post reads in meme format

[Syn]

what's a maymay

[Justplayingitcool]

Im paranaoid of tutuu again

[Justplayingitcool]

[VOTE: Unvote] aubergine

[112]

Imagine being able to sleep for 12 hours

Must be nice

imagine having responsibilities

[Michelle]

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME how dare you rand mafia without me.

Is this an attempt to pocket?

[Michelle]

Imagine being able to sleep for 12 hours

Must be nice

imagine having responsibilities

From what I understood Nanook has RL responsibilities, and he is not the only one, what makes you think any of us is responsibilities free?

[Justplayingitcool]

[VOTE: Dizzy] aubergine

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Imagine being able to sleep for 12 hours

Must be nice

imagine having responsibilities

From what I understood Nanook has RL responsibilities, and he is not the only one, what makes you think any of us is responsibilities free?

Reasonably sure it was just a joke

I think 112 has RL responsibilities too lol

[Timsup2nothin]

Imagine being able to sleep for 12 hours

Must be nice

imagine having responsibilities

From what I understood Nanook has RL responsibilities, and he is not the only one, what makes you think any of us is responsibilities free?

I'm pretty close actually.

[Timsup2nothin]

legit someone could walk in here and mechanically confirm you as town and I would still want you gone

you have actively gone against town at every given opportunity with your active play

and then you make these simpering remarks like "b-b-b-b-but I'm just sheeping Mac" and then Mac dies and now it's "b-b-b-b-but I'm going to sheep Nutella, Nutella is town leader"

you go out of your way to be a net negative influence and then when people obviously take issue with it you call them dumb and pretend you're playing 5D chess that's above the comprehension of us mere mortals

and then on top of that you pretend you have the wolves quivering in their boots because... reasons? only the wolves can grok the layered brilliance you're spooling here and the hapless smooth-brained townies are just in incomprehensible awe?

but it's okay because you were waiting until just this moment to reveal that you're very important!!! you're a vig!!!!!!! who had to wait three days to charge!!! and now you're going to just shoot an old read from days ago because, according to you, your role is best played by simply opting out for the first three day phases of the game, even though a vig who has to wait so long will probably want to have been paying attention so they could make an informed choice

you've just been bad

flat out bad

not it-was-a-ruse bad

bad. period.

why do you join games and then refuse to play them, and then act like refusing to play is some grandmaster-level strategy that we should just trip over ourselves to be amazed by? people point out how terrible your reads and interactions are and you just condescend to them and go "you should know better" as though you get some pass because you're you even though you've done nothing in this game to suggest you're worth keeping

we can't even rely on your vote because you have openly admitted that you have no intention of following along and you're just here to respond to things on the same page as when you load in

boy do I love a (supposed) vig shot from someone who might as well be an RNG bot

this might get me in trouble but i love you and youre right and you should say it

It won't get you in trouble. Just like everything else, when the game is over it's just a game.

Besides, I still gave as good as I got.

Now, would you please explain to Syn why even though I'm a bad player and a bit of a jerk it's really not town positive to vote for me today? When you've had your sleep. No rush.

[Michelle]

Imagine being able to sleep for 12 hours

Must be nice

imagine having responsibilities

From what I understood Nanook has RL responsibilities, and he is not the only one, what makes you think any of us is responsibilities free?

I'm pretty close actually.

yea sure

[Michelle]

Imagine being able to sleep for 12 hours

Must be nice

imagine having responsibilities

From what I understood Nanook has RL responsibilities, and he is not the only one, what makes you think any of us is responsibilities free?

Reasonably sure it was just a joke

I think 112 has RL responsibilities too lol

you have a better sense of humour than me

[Timsup2nothin]

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Hey would you look at Mac's flip and tell me if Nutella is mech lock town from that? I don't really see her being in a chat with Mac for 48 hours as a wolf and not getting sussed out, so I'm pretty sure she's just town, but I'm curious.

[Made]

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Hey would you look at Mac's flip and tell me if Nutella is mech lock town from that? I don't really see her being in a chat with Mac for 48 hours as a wolf and not getting sussed out, so I'm pretty sure she's just town, but I'm curious.

I mean you can if you know he's gonna die...

Spoiler: show

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Hey would you look at Mac's flip and tell me if Nutella is mech lock town from that? I don't really see her being in a chat with Mac for 48 hours as a wolf and not getting sussed out, so I'm pretty sure she's just town, but I'm curious.

Assuming she was in the chat with him then yeah she’s clear

She was already basically clear but now she’s double clear lol

[Michelle]

My working theory
- The Marmot wagon is completely clean. No scum at all. With no strong case against Marmot and the wagons going every which way, I bet scum felt that they could pull off an alternate yeet with enough work
- Tim and Martin were alternative yeets pushed by scum so that they wouldn't lose another teammate
- Nanook is scum, and LC and Michelle are town, correctly pushing Nanook as scum.
- Dizzy is scum, and 112 and Falcon are town, correctly pushing Dizzy as scum
- 112 is town, and maybe(?) one scum between Kyle and TSP? I'm least sure about this part.

This isn't quite accurate. I did not push Nanook as scum, I voted there simply to sheep nutella earlier. I assumed I would be changing my vote by the end of the day.... I pictured myself being there by the end of the day, but I forgot that the end time was earlier than I'm used to.

This post reminds me of LC in Bread game. He doesn't agree with a clear on himself, most likely speaking with an honest tone.
Analogy makes him a villager fmpov

[Dyslexicon]

Yellow. All I’ve read is that Radish is lock town. But I’m guessing that is not too controversial. Don’t know yet how you got to the Marmot yeet, but werk.

Also people should stop voting me. All my past scum games the last year or so have been sweeps, so I should be lock town. Logic.

[Dyslexicon]

Is everyone who push me as scum still people who don’t know me? Is cool, but not very smart.

I’ll read EoD at some point.

[Dyslexicon]

Is Tutu scum? Makes ok sense from Cat spew tbh.

[Michelle]

Is Tutu scum? Makes ok sense from Cat spew tbh.

prove it with links please

[Dyslexicon]

Is Tutu scum? Makes ok sense from Cat spew tbh.

prove it with links please

No, I’m on phone. Can’t prove something I don’t know lol. I’m actually asking for reasons more. But what I remember from Cat spew is that they said Tutu was probably town, but then went ahead and mentioned they tried to iso them after that. Why iso someone you think is town? Looked to me like an awkward way to force some interaction. I’ll recheck this later, as well as other things I wonder about.

Nutella is very likely town. She can direct my vote if she wants.

Still feel both Martin and Made are probably town. Don’t know where thread consensus is with that or what went down with Marmot yeet. But that has been my feeling basically whole game.

[tedxtr]

Are we advocating for early claims again?

That's literally never been a good thing.

you got any thoughts on the game?

[Michelle]

Is Tutu scum? Makes ok sense from Cat spew tbh.

prove it with links please

No, I’m on phone. Can’t prove something I don’t know lol. I’m actually asking for reasons more. But what I remember from Cat spew is that they said Tutu was probably town, but then went ahead and mentioned they tried to iso them after that. Why iso someone you think is town? Looked to me like an awkward way to force some interaction. I’ll recheck this later, as well as other things I wonder about.

Nutella is very likely town. She can direct my vote if she wants.

Still feel both Martin and Made are probably town. Don’t know where thread consensus is with that or what went down with Marmot yeet. But that has been my feeling basically whole game.

Thanks, i can understand your logic there.
I am on the same page on Nutella and Made

[Michelle]

@tutuu any word about what hitting the ball did? or maybe it'll happen at eod

i think it will be a night action

or eod but i think it allows or disallows a night action

Come vote me tutuu!!!!

but whyyyy u have the same alignment as i do

It'll be less painful this way.

lets share our pain together

[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine

[tedxtr]

as per hyena's analysis with stuff, i don't really get the logic?

for me i have not even been there at EoD when the wagon shifting happened - i think it's more solid if you looked into who was there when it took off.

[Michelle]

Spoiler: show

Who should get off the phone?
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


112
2
9%
Voters: Made, Master Radishes
Alison
0
No votes
Voters: None
DrWilgy
1
5%
Voters: tedxtr
Dyslexicon
2
9%
Voters: Hyena, Justplayingitcool
falcon45ca
0
No votes
Voters: None
Hyena
0
No votes
Voters: None
JackofHearts2005
0
No votes
Voters: None
JustPlayingitcool
0
No votes
Voters: None
Kylemii
0
No votes
Voters: None
Long Con
0
No votes
Voters: None
Made
0
No votes
Voters: None
MartinGG99
1
5%
Voters: TonyStarkPrime
Master Radishes
0
No votes
Voters: None
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
0
No votes
Voters: None
nutella
0
No votes
Voters: None
Sloonei
1
5%
Voters: DrWilgy
Syn
0
No votes
Voters: None
hollowkatt
2
9%
Voters: 112, Kylemii
Timsup2nothin
2
9%
Voters: Syn, tutuu
TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes
Voters: None
tedxtr
0
No votes
Voters: None
tutuu
6
27%
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Long Con, Michelle, nutella, Timsup2nothin, hollowkatt
No vote
0
No votes
Voters: None
No elimination
0
No votes
Voters: None
Mac's Mom (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
5
23%
Voters: Marmot, MacDougall, c4e5g3d5, JaggedJimmyJay, Epignosis
Total votes: 22

VC

[Michelle]

as per hyena's analysis with stuff, i don't really get the logic?

for me i have not even been there at EoD when the wagon shifting happened - i think it's more solid if you looked into who was there when it took off.

That was my intention and scrolling up from Eod i found that post of tutuu as a claim.
I will continue to read up, but i have no reason to ingore it.

[Michelle]

Let's yeet Jack instead.

Why?

[tedxtr]

With 9 on Cat are we really going to hit Scum? Is Cat so scummy that it's obvious or are we just making a mistake lol.

did wilgy ever take the twtbaw line before as a wolf? because this post is terrible

and who's "we" in here? why is he talking like he had cat as a scum too and as if he's running his wagon too?

[tedxtr]

i've read EoD for nothing, since i can't see the votes, fun stuff

[tedxtr]

not sure what to think of the tutuu wagon yet. i've been flip flopping in my head a lot. my read was based on shallow reasons but i've actually liked a few of her posts when i got in thread, i can go ahead and quote them.

but the cat progression looks pretty flip floppy and it doesn't look like it makes much sense. it holds me back from stating a more confident read. that + tutuu recently owning "that game that we don't talk about".

[tedxtr]

"I am now a vig is an interesting way to say it.

I needed time to charge weapons. So I chose the annoying intentional slank as a way to avoid the NK. I'm usually towny enough to avoid rational cases so I figured I'd make it at least far enough to get off one shot, claim it, and eat a night kill. That's good enough contribution from me I think.

What are odds Mafia got fake roles to claim in a closed set up game?

id always provide fake claims in closed setups but its also nice to announce that in the OP i think

anyway like

i dont think its towny for tim to claim now, or claim at all

nutella didnt even tunnel him that much i dont think, i think if tim is town he does maybe claim here eventually after giving up. but does town tim give up so easily? after 1 hour and 20 mins of day start?

claiming like that in everyones faces isnt real imo

last time i saw someone fake claim a roleblocker and they publicly said in big bold red letters " I AM ROLEBLOCKING STAYPOSITIVEFRIEND" during the day with multiple mafia alive in a closed setup game and they were obviously mafia

i really liked the red - i realise it may be pretty slim but i remember thinking to myself that it was being genuine. caveat being it was 3AM and my brain was deep fried from turbos. (/villagery hedge)

i think wolves are more likely to have a frozenish reaction to it and then go for questions, or they'd just buy it at face value. but in here i can see the wheels turning, i guess? that's the best way i can describe it

[tedxtr]

and the other thing was based around how they pushed on me - which also looked genuine and unlike that terrible push she made in that other game.

the only thing giving me pause is that i did agree with mac in my head that the switch from me being a wolf to me being a villager seemed too fast for her to make.

and then there's obviously the cat thing...

[tedxtr]

in my head i kept her at gth villager for most of the time for ego reasons, cuz i wanna be right on her every time and undermine her wolfplay. fmpov there's a bit of a rivalry going between us, especially since she thinks my town game is worse than my wolf game. and owning her alignment every time and for easy reasons would be fulfilling for me.

but i gotta admit i may not be right /shrug and it looks like i'm getting hard carried

[tedxtr]

v
michelle - obv
nutella - obv
sloonei - the silencer role thing
LC - kinda confident this is a villager after last night's talk

(i know it's a few, but these should be gimmes for everyone on their villa list imo)

[tedxtr]

radishes is not my masonbro anymore since one just flipped lol, but i thiiiink he's a villager as well
jpic for the villa RAGE that i've skimmed at some point and thread presence

ez game is ez?

think i cracked werewolf btw, whenever i don't read games in full i have a lot higher accuracy on reads

[tedxtr]

dunno if i should have the whole page for myself so people can skim these beautiful thoughts

[Justplayingitcool]

I keep flip-flopping on tutuu tbh. Like, I thiiiink she is town but then random paranoia creeps in that makes me doubt the read. idk what to think

Her posts at the EoD with marmot are just twtbw, and I didn't really think they were wolf theatre.

[tedxtr]

I keep flip-flopping on tutuu tbh. Like, I thiiiink she is town but then random paranoia creeps in that makes me doubt the read. idk what to think

yeah, think this is spot on for me

not in any confident position to where i can / want to defend it

[tutuu]

Im town and im not capable of being any townier shrug!

In all future games u guise play with me u will not see me get any townier than this

[Justplayingitcool]

Im town and im not capable of being any townier shrug!

In all future games u guise play with me u will not see me get any townier than this

Posts like this are why I get the heebie-jeebies!

[tutuu]

legit someone could walk in here and mechanically confirm you as town and I would still want you gone

you have actively gone against town at every given opportunity with your active play

and then you make these simpering remarks like "b-b-b-b-but I'm just sheeping Mac" and then Mac dies and now it's "b-b-b-b-but I'm going to sheep Nutella, Nutella is town leader"

you go out of your way to be a net negative influence and then when people obviously take issue with it you call them dumb and pretend you're playing 5D chess that's above the comprehension of us mere mortals

and then on top of that you pretend you have the wolves quivering in their boots because... reasons? only the wolves can grok the layered brilliance you're spooling here and the hapless smooth-brained townies are just in incomprehensible awe?

but it's okay because you were waiting until just this moment to reveal that you're very important!!! you're a vig!!!!!!! who had to wait three days to charge!!! and now you're going to just shoot an old read from days ago because, according to you, your role is best played by simply opting out for the first three day phases of the game, even though a vig who has to wait so long will probably want to have been paying attention so they could make an informed choice

you've just been bad

flat out bad

not it-was-a-ruse bad

bad. period.

why do you join games and then refuse to play them, and then act like refusing to play is some grandmaster-level strategy that we should just trip over ourselves to be amazed by? people point out how terrible your reads and interactions are and you just condescend to them and go "you should know better" as though you get some pass because you're you even though you've done nothing in this game to suggest you're worth keeping

we can't even rely on your vote because you have openly admitted that you have no intention of following along and you're just here to respond to things on the same page as when you load in

boy do I love a (supposed) vig shot from someone who might as well be an RNG bot

This is why tim is a wolf but if hes a town this isnt the end of the world

I hate the self-righteousness from you considering some of your own decision making this game

If you are going to be so self-righteous and make these call out posts to other people i would urge you to start being more critical of yourself because trust me there are some stuff to criticize

[tutuu]

Im town and im not capable of being any townier shrug!

In all future games u guise play with me u will not see me get any townier than this

Posts like this are why I get the heebie-jeebies!

I dont think it was a scummy post (source: im town) and i believe youre just biased coz u just said ur paranoid of me! Everyone falls to confirmation bias i think

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Maybe we can just not go after people for things like “effort” and “trying” and that kind of thing and keep it to less personal stuff

[tutuu]

@Syn "people point out how terrible your reads are" (re: tim) and you are implying thats something okay and tim should know better in the middle of grilling him

But when i say that mac is making a poor play and his posts are silly for tunneling me i am insulting him?

Are people not insulting tim then, if calling someones read bads is an insult?

Because clearly i insulted macdougall in your opinion, and i was so obviously mafia and u allowed urself to mock my protests when i asked u to stop saying that ive insulted him?

How about u stop insulting tim as well then eh?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

How about we all just stop and have fun instead