Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[Justplayingitcool]

Im town and im not capable of being any townier shrug!

In all future games u guise play with me u will not see me get any townier than this

Posts like this are why I get the heebie-jeebies!

I dont think it was a scummy post (source: im town) and i believe youre just biased coz u just said ur paranoid of me! Everyone falls to confirmation bias i think

It's not conf bias because I'm reading you town but have random paranoia. I wouldn't say it's necessarily a scummy post but eh it doesn't make me feel better either

[tutuu]

@Syn "people point out how terrible your reads are" (re: tim) and you are implying thats something okay and tim should know better in the middle of grilling him

But when i say that mac is making a poor play and his posts are silly for tunneling me i am insulting him?

Are people not insulting tim then, if calling someones read bads is an insult?

Because clearly i insulted macdougall in your opinion, and i was so obviously mafia and u allowed urself to mock my protests when i asked u to stop saying that ive insulted him?

How about u stop insulting tim as well then eh?

I failed to make my main point here

My point was this:

If you werent hypocritical in the stances youve expressed this game, i think u would have the opinion of "since multiple people are calling tim's posts and plays horrible, they are insulting him, therefore he is justified in being condescending towards them, therefore tims posts are adequate and not unreasonable"

Ive laid out my basis for why i think this is, feel free to show me where my logic is wrong if it is

[Michelle]

How about we all just stop and have fun instead

we can do that

[Justplayingitcool]

Marmot ISO:

Spoiler: show

Hazelnuuuuuuuuut!!! who is on your team?

Not you apparently

ngl, I do miss this team

DrWilgy

Let's assume you are mafia

Name your three to four teammates immediately

Made, LC, Hyena, and Marmot

If DrWilgy is mafia these are all town.

This isn't how DrWilgy works. If he's mafia here, than I'm mafia here.

This kind of looks egregious considering marmot made the same statement with cat, which I quoted earlier in the thread.

@MacDougall I vote group 1.

I do think tutuu's scum this game, so I don't want to give her immunity.

starts scumreading tutuu for some inexplicable reason. I looked back and the read seemed like a joke and there was no serious interactions between himself and tutuu, nor did marmot ever vote there.

Michelle has bite.

She can be town.

can I be town

I want to be town

Ask nutella. She's giving out snap reads like candy.

Last I saw Syn was wolf reading Nutella, so if she snaps at him it's not likely to be pretty.

So it sounds like we have a nututuu team. Noted.

Shades tutuu again, but yet still doesn't vote in tutuu's direction.

Alright, I have no fuckin' idea what's going on.

How come?

Everyone says all my reads are shit, and I'm not sure what's happening.



I think I'm gonna watch some Friends or sumfin', eat some vanilla ice cream

What are your reads? Do you think they're shit?

Alison, Michelle, MR = bad guys


No I don't, but then I remember that New! Coke was a thing, and those guys didn't think it sucked til the whole world told them, and now I wonder if I'm the new New! Coke

You lost me at "soda was a thing".

I agree on MR. The amount of on topic content I've seen from him is alarming.

Starts to shade Radishes

I think that Kyle is Mafia; the way he's constantly talking about having to catch up is a way I've seen Mafia do, can't really argument it; it's just how I've seen it; I think there are other people who groan at having to catch up but they aren't following it so faithfully / they meme from time to time / they still give reads from time to time.

I think the way Kyle is approaching this is wolfy and he's constantly reminding us that he's trying to read every post (which I believe him that he is) but that's busywork IMO and he's mafia.

You're right, I don't recall Kyle doing this. I think he tends to post off-topic rather than complaining about catching up.

I'mma look him up in other big games as a townie player.

marmot puts his hand in the honey jar, and starts throwing dirt in kyle's location.

I am so lost, can someone catch me up. Why are we voting 112 now?

THIS IS A FUCKING LOST WOLF SOFT OR MY NAME ISNT TUTUU

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

I SWEAR TO GOD THIS IS A LOST WOLF SOFT CLAIM

You know what

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

Marmot seemingly dropped his scum read on tutuu out of nowhere, and then joins tutuu on a Made wagon. I get the impression that marmot was trying to pocket tutuu

Banjo - Kazooie is a fuckin epic game, but Goldeneye is better

incorrect

Ok, this guy is prolly town. Only a towny could be so wrong

goldeneye was good for its time but has been surpassed in its genre ten times over.

Ok, this guy prolly still town. Only a towny could still be so wrong

im not sure why im not getting more townreads as #2 poster, i feel like i'm out of my scumrange but it's possible i'm not as obvious bc i'm distracted by work and stuff

This is so scummy, nutella might be town

Do you normally give TWTBW reads falcon. You gave two of them back-to-back here.

Begins to shade falcon

I think Thunal is the only town player in the game

Probably just TMI, and getting thunal/HK on side

Tutuu is actually le town.

Nope.

I don't see a solving mindset there.

Starts to scum read tutuu again and throws shade in that direction? even though Marmot agreed with two of tutuu's reads on both Made & kyle (quoted above). It feels like marmot was trying to pocket tutuu but was trying to ensure she remained firmly in the PoE.

@dyachei you said you want two votes and received Marmot's
If you need another one, i'll give you mine

i really want the top 2 wagons to be thunal and cat

I've explained thunal a lot and I think cat's a hit too (mostly based on mac's case)

i think that if both those wagons were to die today I'd be pretty happy

This post feels kinda manipulative. Why don't you want to entertain outside of these two?

That said, I agree that cat's posts are pretty scummy, but I disagree on Thunal.

I think this post shows potential in the theory that cat was ruthlessly bussed D1.

Another possibility of TMI on thunal to look good as she was starting to become a wagon at this point iiirc. Please correct me if I am wrong.

it feels manipulative when I spell it all out for you?

you guys must think I'm the worst wolf lmao

It's the wording of it. The manner of saying "I want to these to be the top two wagons" instead of something like "These are my preferred votes".

I can't say I've ever played with you, so I don't know your wolfing capabilities (but you're in the GoC, so I assume they aren't the worst)

this is a towny thought from marmot, very towny. i dont think that it will be fruitful for u to scumread people off of these small choices of word expression though, u could if u want to but i dont think it will be fruitful

Um tutuu, are you dismissing me?

you asked me to not respond but i cant not respond, i dont understand why

dismissal is a negative word, i dont view me challenging your read as something thats negative

I disagree about word usage and expression, I think that is a great way to catch mafia. I mean, I'm not very good at catching mafia, but I've had more recent success in this way.

Maybe I misunderstood your tone, but it didn't feel like a challenge. I thought you were saying "Yes Marmot, good try, but it's wrong, go try again". Were you implying something else?

I think these set of posts look good for tutuu.

tutuu sounds genuinely confused and these set of posts don't come across as fake.

[VOTE: Falcon45ca] aubergine
See you later, or after the game.

This took a lot of courage

[VOTE: VOTE CAT] aubergine


Guess how long it took me to go thru the ISO?

5 minutes between these posts (that's my answer falcon).

I guess this is a self-prez vote, but it's otherwise pretty bad.

[VOTE: falcon] aubergine

Awkward scumread and vote on falcon. I think marmot tried and failed to save Cat d1, despite previously calling them scum. GTH I don't think falcon/marmot/cat are partners.

Cat's ISO looks meh. Their earlier posts don't look great, particularly the one where Sloonei asked for their reads. Their response to the case from Mac (and others) looked better. But they didn't really leave much of a legacy aside from Sloonei grilling them for reads.

I'm also happy voting falcon.


I will not be voting for Thunal though. The overtly formal nature of their approach being a sign of scum is a read I disagree with.

He really didn't want cat to fall d1, and was trying to get people to move over to falcon and downplay the scumreads on cat.

Why do people want to bake Tutuu now that I'm actually townreading her??

Starts townreading tutuu now? I tried going through a reason for the change in read but I couldn't see why or when he changed the read. tutuu was starting to gain traction and I think there is a pattern between her and thunal/HK. Marmot was happy for those wagons to go-ahead, tried to take town cred if/when they flipped town but didn't really try to stop either of the wagon from progressing.

and look at the two mafia br0z on falcon loooool

This is the way

Marmot was on falcon at this point. I can't remember who the second person

I'm in the middle of ISO'ing Martin, and the most egregious thing I can see thus far are his heavy attempts to defend tutuu.

Continuing reading.

And now marmot shades Martin for hard defending tutuu. In hindsight, it really did feel like he was being a goldilocks

I read falcon's Day 2 and don't feel any better about it

There were 4 posts, but I won't tell you how long it took.

meh

[imagine big tutuu spinning anime girl gif and big flashy text with sparkles and stuff]

THE MAFIA ARE MARTIN MARMOT DYSLEXICON LONGCON AND TONYSTARKPRIME


[dab]

If Dizzy is scum, I'm just giving up now.

I also think I see what nutella's saying. Everyone feels townie rn.

Except Syn.

Syn is already part of the towncore and I think this adds a further reason to why I believe he is town.

[VOTE: Tim] aubergine

I hope marmot gets yeeted and he flips mafia and im next. I want out please

Are you not having fun? I want you to have fun.

I don't think marmot faked this meaning he seemed genuinely surprised by tutuu who was implying she wasn't having fun, which to me implies they are probably not wolves together. Marmot would know if tutuu was faking the not having fun post if they were wolves together due to being in scumchat, and I genuinely believe in the surprised tone from marmot, as well as believing tutuu when she stated she wasn't having fun.

In summary:

I think tutuu looks pretty good from reading marmot's iso. He keeps flip-flopping on the read whenever it suited him. He was scumreading tutuu, but then agreed on two of the votes/progressions she made on D1, and then randomly scumread again accusing her of not trying to solve the game? It felt like he was trying to pocket, but ensure she remained in the PoE whenever someone else would go and townread her. Marmot townread thunal/hk and tutuu when their wagons were beginning to gain traction, and yet did absolutely nothing to steer town away from either wagon, and I believe he was trying to go for the free towncred when they flipped. So I think this looks good for both HK and tutuu. Marmot and tutuu's interactions do not feel faked or wolf theatre.

Marmot's vote on falcon is awkward, and I think he was trying to get people to move off from cat and lynch falcon instead. I think this is important because marmot wasn't really trying to save either tutuu or thunal/hk as previously mentioned. This means this is a good look for falcon at the moment.

I think wilgy has partner potential, but I think it might be a dumb read as it's only based off the cat post I posted early and similarities it had with the wilgy post I quoted in the spoilers.

[falcon45ca]

When the sun fall and the night rise
And the freaks coming out in the night time
Getting wasted, look into your eyes
Taking shots to the head like its suicide
Swallow a pill, sniff some cocaine
In the car doing 90 down Biscayne
All your vices come with prices
Pay the price and get lost in the life

[Justplayingitcool]

also im a doofus. marmots vote came at day 2.

[falcon45ca]

I'm still alive & I'm still town!


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[Justplayingitcool]

also im a doofus. marmots vote came at day 2.

in regards to voting falcon

meh, I still think the read and vote on falcon by marmot is awkward

[Long Con]

I'm still alive & I'm still town!


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Heyyy congrats on livin' man!

[falcon45ca]

I'm still alive & I'm still town!


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Heyyy congrats on livin' man!

No congrats on being TOWN?




S'ok, now I'm just fishing for compliments

[Michelle]

I'm still alive & I'm still town!


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Heyyy congrats on livin' man!

No congrats on being TOWN?




S'ok, now I'm just fishing for compliments

congrats on everything!

[Michelle]

I'm still alive & I'm still town!


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Heyyy congrats on livin' man!

I remember you had a gift from Alison. was it an useful thing?

[falcon45ca]

I'm still alive & I'm still town!


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Heyyy congrats on livin' man!

No congrats on being TOWN?




S'ok, now I'm just fishing for compliments

congrats on everything!

[tutuu]

@Michelle now that the spiderverse game is over can you explain what happened with you mixing up the games on day 1 and thinking esooa was in this game?

[tutuu]

Just saw tim has 500 posts i probably should not be voting there should i? I thought hes at 130 or something when did he become the 3rd top living poster

The scum are probably in the people with low post count like they always are

Dizzy nook falcon martin TSP wilgy

If i townread tim i have no further reason to scumread hk

So ill go with those 6 names above thats my legacy

[VOTE: Dizzy] aubergine

[tutuu]

Tim is probably town who fake claimed vig to bait a night kill or a roleblock hes still not a town vig

[falcon45ca]

Just saw tim has 500 posts i probably should not be voting there should i? I thought hes at 130 or something when did he become the 3rd top living poster

The scum are probably in the people with low post count like they always are

Dizzy nook falcon martin TSP wilgy

If i townread tim i have no further reason to scumread hk

So ill go with those 6 names above thats my legacy

[VOTE: Dizzy] aubergine

Did Marmot have a low post count?

[Dyslexicon]

Why am I scum to you, Tutu? Go! I don't really buy that you think so, but go anyway. Convince me, I might agree.

Also, didn't you town read Martin last day?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Idk he could just be a town vig that also wants to get NKed

[tutuu]

Just saw tim has 500 posts i probably should not be voting there should i? I thought hes at 130 or something when did he become the 3rd top living poster

The scum are probably in the people with low post count like they always are

Dizzy nook falcon martin TSP wilgy

If i townread tim i have no further reason to scumread hk

So ill go with those 6 names above thats my legacy

[VOTE: Dizzy] aubergine

Did Marmot have a low post count?

Maybe he was the highest scum poster

330 still very far off from 500

[tutuu]

Why am I scum to you, Tutu? Go! I don't really buy that you think so, but go anyway. Convince me, I might agree.

Also, didn't you town read Martin last day?

Process of elimination im not finding u as town and im finding other ppl as town + nutellas idea that u killed dya n1 and if u werent in a mafia team dya probably doesnt die n1

[tutuu]

Idk he could just be a town vig that also wants to get NKed

Fair

[tutuu]

Oh and about martin - i did but then i also townread marmot and that was wrong so i started thonking

[falcon45ca]

Just saw tim has 500 posts i probably should not be voting there should i? I thought hes at 130 or something when did he become the 3rd top living poster

The scum are probably in the people with low post count like they always are

Dizzy nook falcon martin TSP wilgy

If i townread tim i have no further reason to scumread hk

So ill go with those 6 names above thats my legacy

[VOTE: Dizzy] aubergine

Did Marmot have a low post count?

Maybe he was the highest scum poster

330 still very far off from 500

Maybe your theory is FLAWED, just like Katie Holmes theory that Tom Cruise would be her husband for life, or Tom Cruise theory that Mimi Rogers would be his wife for life.

[Michelle]

@Michelle now that the spiderverse game is over can you explain what happened with you mixing up the games on day 1 and thinking esooa was in this game?

I still can't talk about my mistake, sorry about that.

[Master Radishes]

How about we all just stop and have fun instead

Nanook confirmed wolf.

[Michelle]

Just saw tim has 500 posts i probably should not be voting there should i? I thought hes at 130 or something when did he become the 3rd top living poster

The scum are probably in the people with low post count like they always are

Dizzy nook falcon martin TSP wilgy

If i townread tim i have no further reason to scumread hk

So ill go with those 6 names above thats my legacy

[VOTE: Dizzy] aubergine

Why am I scum to you, Tutu? Go! I don't really buy that you think so, but go anyway. Convince me, I might agree.

Also, didn't you town read Martin last day?

what a fast reaction , do you have an alert for votes Dizzy?

[Dyslexicon]

what a fast reaction , do you have an alert for votes Dizzy?

What? Is this a hurr hurr questions? They are bad votes.

[Michelle]

Spoiler: show

Who posted? - This is a list of all members who posted in this topic
Username
Posts
nutella
1010

tutuu
798

MacDougall
582

Timsup2nothin
491

Made
475

Hyena
410

Justplayingitcool
404

Michelle
402

Master Radishes
381

Sloonei
362

Syn
354

Marmot
330

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
259

112
240

Long Con
239

Thunal33
228

Kylemii
202

MartinGG99
194

tedxtr
184

TonyStarkPrime
170

DrWilgy
162

falcon45ca
155

hollowkatt
136

Dyslexicon
124

dyachei
91

Jackofhearts2005
76

Alison
46

cat
38

Epignosis
16

dunya
10

JaggedJimmyJay
5

Nutella has over 1000 posts

[Dyslexicon]

Looked through Marmot wagon and both Tutu's vote and Martin's vote are the most ??? to me. Could probably be others there too. Probably not teamed, cause Martin so passionate about shielding Tutu as town.

@Hyena Why did you decide to vote Marmot?

[falcon45ca]

LC has low post count and Tuutu doesn't have them on her scum list.

[Michelle]

what a fast reaction , do you have an alert for votes Dizzy?

What? Is this a hurr hurr questions? They are bad votes.

is a normal question, you popped itt after the vote, like you were lurking. Probably just my impression, but I would like your active presence here

[Dyslexicon]

Why am I scum to you, Tutu? Go! I don't really buy that you think so, but go anyway. Convince me, I might agree.

Also, didn't you town read Martin last day?

Process of elimination im not finding u as town and im finding other ppl as town + nutellas idea that u killed dya n1 and if u werent in a mafia team dya probably doesnt die n1

You found me as town D1. You seemed pretty sure. When did that stop? I've never low posted as mafia btw. Not that it should clear me. This answer is not good enough.

And what the fuck is that lol. @nutella Where did that come from?

[Master Radishes]

In summary:

I think tutuu looks pretty good from reading marmot's iso. He keeps flip-flopping on the read whenever it suited him. He was scumreading tutuu, but then agreed on two of the votes/progressions she made on D1, and then randomly scumread again accusing her of not trying to solve the game? It felt like he was trying to pocket, but ensure she remained in the PoE whenever someone else would go and townread her. Marmot townread thunal/hk and tutuu when their wagons were beginning to gain traction, and yet did absolutely nothing to steer town away from either wagon, and I believe he was trying to go for the free towncred when they flipped. So I think this looks good for both HK and tutuu. Marmot and tutuu's interactions do not feel faked or wolf theatre.

Without double-checking your work, I agree based on my own skim of Marmot's iso during the Night - tutuu is likely spewed clear. Not locked, but likely. Marmot handles tutuu similarly to how he handled my slot when I was raised as a possible wagon in D1, i.e. being friendly towards me but quietly keeping me in the PoE without fully committing to a firm stance one way or another.

[Dyslexicon]

is a normal question, you popped itt after the vote, like you were lurking. Probably just my impression, but I would like your active presence here

I don't sit around and watch the thread like that, no. =p

[Master Radishes]

Dizzy definitely PoE still, but I wouldn't vote there yet without something better than 'he's low-posting'.

[Dyslexicon]

I should do Marmot iso too I guess. Also I did no understand Marmot's role.

Oh, and @Sloonei Why did you vote Marmot?

[Dyslexicon]

Dizzy definitely PoE still, but I wouldn't vote there yet without something better than 'he's low-posting'.

They don't like me and it's unfair. I haven't done much, and I'm fully aware of that. I can understand null reads, but I don't understand wow Dizzy is mafia hahah. But like oookkkk

[Michelle]

is a normal question, you popped itt after the vote, like you were lurking. Probably just my impression, but I would like your active presence here

I don't sit around and watch the thread like that, no. =p

oh sorry, my bad

[Justplayingitcool]

In summary:

I think tutuu looks pretty good from reading marmot's iso. He keeps flip-flopping on the read whenever it suited him. He was scumreading tutuu, but then agreed on two of the votes/progressions she made on D1, and then randomly scumread again accusing her of not trying to solve the game? It felt like he was trying to pocket, but ensure she remained in the PoE whenever someone else would go and townread her. Marmot townread thunal/hk and tutuu when their wagons were beginning to gain traction, and yet did absolutely nothing to steer town away from either wagon, and I believe he was trying to go for the free towncred when they flipped. So I think this looks good for both HK and tutuu. Marmot and tutuu's interactions do not feel faked or wolf theatre.

Without double-checking your work, I agree based on my own skim of Marmot's iso during the Night - tutuu is likely spewed clear. Not locked, but likely. Marmot handles tutuu similarly to how he handled my slot when I was raised as a possible wagon in D1, i.e. being friendly towards me but quietly keeping me in the PoE without fully committing to a firm stance one way or another.

I can't quite remember how he handled your slot, but the way you explained it is pretty much bang on the impression I got from reading Marmot and his handling of tutuu

[Michelle]

tutuu

6
26%

Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Long Con, Michelle, nutella, Timsup2nothin, hollowkatt

I think no matter tutuu's AI. this wagon contains a wolf.

I wish for an alignament cop to check Nanook, Tim or HK, in this order
Nutella is volume cleared and Mac flipping villager means he had a good read for her
Long Con is a soul town read, who thinks I am wrong should tell me why.

[Dyslexicon]

Oof. No, I don't want to read Marmot's ISO. Didn't know it was so long.

I don't really have much motivation for this game. I'm sorry. =/

[Justplayingitcool]

Dizzy definitely PoE still, but I wouldn't vote there yet without something better than 'he's low-posting'.

They don't like me and it's unfair. I haven't done much, and I'm fully aware of that. I can understand null reads, but I don't understand wow Dizzy is mafia hahah. But like oookkkk

Dizzeh! It's PoE friend, and you're pretty much null for me. There was one post from you in D1 that I quite liked iirc, but that's literally it!

[Dyslexicon]

My working theory
- The Marmot wagon is completely clean. No scum at all. With no strong case against Marmot and the wagons going every which way, I bet scum felt that they could pull off an alternate yeet with enough work
- Tim and Martin were alternative yeets pushed by scum so that they wouldn't lose another teammate
- Nanook is scum, and LC and Michelle are town, correctly pushing Nanook as scum.
- Dizzy is scum, and 112 and Falcon are town, correctly pushing Dizzy as scum
- 112 is town, and maybe(?) one scum between Kyle and TSP? I'm least sure about this part.

This isn't quite accurate. I did not push Nanook as scum, I voted there simply to sheep nutella earlier. I assumed I would be changing my vote by the end of the day.... I pictured myself being there by the end of the day, but I forgot that the end time was earlier than I'm used to.

This post reminds me of LC in Bread game. He doesn't agree with a clear on himself, most likely speaking with an honest tone.
Analogy makes him a villager fmpov

@Hyena I don't think you should have a working theory that's basically a random solve of the game. I've been "pushing" Nanook though, but tbh it's based on total vague feelings and 80 % guesswork. Who pushed Tim and Martin as an alternative to Marmot then? Can you name names?

[Justplayingitcool]

tutuu

6
26%

Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Long Con, Michelle, nutella, Timsup2nothin, hollowkatt

I think no matter tutuu's AI. this wagon contains a wolf.

I wish for an alignament cop to check Nanook, Tim or HK, in this order
Nutella is volume cleared and Mac flipping villager means he had a good read for her
Long Con is a soul town read, who thinks I am wrong should tell me why.

I agree with your order in regards to the alignment cop. Though tbh I think hk is spewed town from reading marmots iso

Do you mind elaborating on the town read with Long Con? Unless it's just a gut read.

[hollowkatt]

mafia is entirely memes we have all done this before and we will do it all again


or something idk anyway gonna go sleep for like 12 hours cya

getting some real 13th tribe vibes from this

[Dyslexicon]

Dizzeh! It's PoE friend, and you're pretty much null for me. There was one post from you in D1 that I quite liked iirc, but that's literally it!

Yeah, that's fair. It's not going to be a good time yeeting me, but I understand people don't have a good read on me necessarily and that I'm expandable enough as long as I'm not doing much. But I don't think I'm a bad town player when I try. I'll probably try at some point, hopefully, maybe. =p

[Dyslexicon]

I really want to know why Nutella thinsk Dya dying means I'm scum though. I can't stand random ass theories like that.

[Dyslexicon]

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

Because of that post Ted quoted. If anyone wants me to sheep a particular case plase @ me.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

tutuu

6
26%

Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Long Con, Michelle, nutella, Timsup2nothin, hollowkatt

I think no matter tutuu's AI. this wagon contains a wolf.

I wish for an alignament cop to check Nanook, Tim or HK, in this order
Nutella is volume cleared and Mac flipping villager means he had a good read for her
Long Con is a soul town read, who thinks I am wrong should tell me why.

Reasonably sure you just listed three town