Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[Hyena]

This is probably the only thing I'm gonna do tonight. I'll start reevaluating everything tomorrow.

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Change Log:
- Moved Jack to Confirmed Town
- Moved Nanook to Confirmed Scum
- Moved Falcon to Confirmed Town

Confirmed Town
Townreads
Don't care/Null/2 Bored 2 Read/I forgot
Scumreads
Confirmed Scum

EOD1 Wagons
Cat(10): Nute, Nanook, Tutuu, Made, Ted, Falcon, Mac, Tim, Dizzy, Marmot
Falcon(7): Thunal/HK, Cat, Martin, Long Con, Wilgy, JPIC, Radish
Thunal(3): Dya, TSP, Michelle
Hyena(2): Sloonei, Kylemii
Nutella(2): Syn, Jack
Marmot(1): 112
Ted(1): Hyena

EOD2 Wagons
Marmot(10): Sloonei, Mac, Made, Nute, Tim, Radish, Martin, JPIC, Hyena, Syn
Tim(3): Marmot, Jack, Tutuu
Martin(3): HK (replaced Thunal), Ted, Nanook
Nanook(2): LC, Michelle
112(2): TSP, Kyle
Dizzy(2): 112, Falcon
No Vote(2): Alison, Dizzy

EOD3 Wagons
Jack(7): JPIC, Radish, Tutuu, 112, Nanook, Nute, LC
112(4): Made, Hyena, HK (replaced Thunal), Jack
Wilgy(3): Ted, Syn, Dizzy
Tim(2): Kylemii, Michelle
Martin(2): Falcon, Tim
Falcon(1): Martin
Nanook(1): TSP
Sloonei(1): Wilgy
HK (replaced Thunal)(1): Sloonei

[Hyena]

@Timsup2nothin Any word from Mac yet?

[Kylemii]

tutuu is town, sister believe it!

Why?

Believe it!!!!

[Master Radishes]

Btw stupid read: Martin claiming his targets but not his role is probably townie. A scummie would either fully claim something or be more reserved and mysteeerious in his hinting.

Makes me want to look into his Kyle sus.

[Master Radishes]

Did Kyle ever claim what he earned from silencing himself for D2?

[Master Radishes]

Oh wait sorry is that rOlEfIsHiNg?

[Timsup2nothin]

@Timsup2nothin Any word from Mac yet?

Nope. I have timed out of the chat three times, and now I'm about to log out for the night. Hopefully he will have at least said hi by morning.

[Michelle]

Btw @tutuu you asked me iirc about my mistake.
I was heavily multitabling and one of the games was the team game at MU, where Esooa had a day one very active and very suspicious fmpov and my brain was so tunnely that when i posted my read for this game i added Esooa.
If i would give details i would entertain an angleshooting type of read for my slot in that game and that is a thing i hate the most.
It was not intentional and i felt like an idiot for that mistake, my only excuse is the fact in day one I wasn't there to talk about my suspicion because was Dawoo's turn to post and the first place where i talked about reads was here

[Hyena]

Okay, I lied.

I'll pose a question for everyone:

Do you think Nanook expected to die this early in the game? If Nanook is looking to get town credit on D2, why doesn't he just vote for Marmot? Why does he vote for Martin? Martin's wagon didn't seem to be going anywhere by the end of D2. If Nanook wasn't expecting to die this early in the game, I don't think Nanook was voting for a partner on D2, which means Martin is town. Otherwise, he probably voted Martin so that Martin would look good after he died.

[Michelle]

tutuu is town, sister believe it!

Why?

Believe it!!!!

i'm thinking...

Talk no jutsu is the essence of mafia, i am ready to listen what you have to say

[Master Radishes]

Okay, I lied.

I'll pose a question for everyone:

Do you think Nanook expected to die this early in the game? If Nanook is looking to get town credit on D2, why doesn't he just vote for Marmot? Why does he vote for Martin? Martin's wagon didn't seem to be going anywhere by the end of D2. If Nanook wasn't expecting to die this early in the game, I don't think Nanook was voting for a partner on D2, which means Martin is town. Otherwise, he probably voted Martin so that Martin would look good after he died.

w!Nanook doesn't look to gain town credit in the way others do. He just does his own thing.

In this case, he said he was sheeping Nutella and he just followed her vote around all day no matter who it was. The Marmot wagon sprung up late and I don't remember if Nook was in the thread for those final minutes? If not this is all NAI. If he was...you may be on to something.

[Michelle]

Okay, I lied.

I'll pose a question for everyone:

Do you think Nanook expected to die this early in the game? If Nanook is looking to get town credit on D2, why doesn't he just vote for Marmot? Why does he vote for Martin? Martin's wagon didn't seem to be going anywhere by the end of D2. If Nanook wasn't expecting to die this early in the game, I don't think Nanook was voting for a partner on D2, which means Martin is town. Otherwise, he probably voted Martin so that Martin would look good after he died.

Nanook was sure he would live longer, i think.
The fact his wagon never had enough traction shows this.
I don't have time to check who voted for him, but i think the movement from the day he had the biggest wagon on himself may tell a story

[Timsup2nothin]

Okay, I lied.

I'll pose a question for everyone:

Do you think Nanook expected to die this early in the game? If Nanook is looking to get town credit on D2, why doesn't he just vote for Marmot? Why does he vote for Martin? Martin's wagon didn't seem to be going anywhere by the end of D2. If Nanook wasn't expecting to die this early in the game, I don't think Nanook was voting for a partner on D2, which means Martin is town. Otherwise, he probably voted Martin so that Martin would look good after he died.

The only ways I can come up with to explain Nanook dying...

1) He was some sort of hake flip bodyguard and stepped in front of Tutuu. If he had that role he was pretty much expecting to die at any time.

2) He was carrying the kill and hit some sort of paranoid gun owner. If he was carrying kills it was because he was expendable, and again that involves risking trackers and such so he would have been expecting to die at any time.

3) Someone else just vigged him out of the blue. This seems unlikely, because a second town vig suddenly appearing is way off. But...maybe?

In any event, I plan on being very careful about Nanook spew.

[Hyena]

That seems unnecessarily snarky

Meh. This was his last post on D2, which was hours before EoD. However, a bunch of us did notice him switching votes throughout the game without announcing it in the thread.

[Hyena]

Okay, I lied.

I'll pose a question for everyone:

Do you think Nanook expected to die this early in the game? If Nanook is looking to get town credit on D2, why doesn't he just vote for Marmot? Why does he vote for Martin? Martin's wagon didn't seem to be going anywhere by the end of D2. If Nanook wasn't expecting to die this early in the game, I don't think Nanook was voting for a partner on D2, which means Martin is town. Otherwise, he probably voted Martin so that Martin would look good after he died.

The only ways I can come up with to explain Nanook dying...

1) He was some sort of hake flip bodyguard and stepped in front of Tutuu. If he had that role he was pretty much expecting to die at any time.

2) He was carrying the kill and hit some sort of paranoid gun owner. If he was carrying kills it was because he was expendable, and again that involves risking trackers and such so he would have been expecting to die at any time.

3) Someone else just vigged him out of the blue. This seems unlikely, because a second town vig suddenly appearing is way off. But...maybe?

In any event, I plan on being very careful about Nanook spew.

Yeah, normally I'd be very careful about Nanook spew either way, but I thought it was noteworthy enough to bring up.

[Made]

Re Hyena's poll tally, I'm kinda feeling a bit off, cuz I'm town reading Jack, 112, wilgy, and tim. Were we all THAT off yesterday, or am I just that off now?

[Syn]

Oh wait sorry is that rOlEfIsHiNg?

to everyone else, does radish always get so salty when he outs himself

is this how he lolcats

[Made]

Re Hyena's poll tally, I'm kinda feeling a bit off, cuz I'm town reading Jack, 112, wilgy, and tim. Were we all THAT off yesterday, or am I just that off now?

@Timsup2nothin what's your take on this? ik you town read 112. With jack flipped, and you (i'm assuming) think you're town, do you think wilgy might be bad or was yesterday just that much of a wash?

[Hyena]

Okay, I guess I'm gonna be playing a bit longer.

Nanook also voted 112 with me and Nute when the votes started swinging back in 112's direction a second time. Here's the proof of this (since he didn't announce the vote in thread, as usual):

tbh gonna go back to [VOTE: 112] aubergine im really not sold on this being her towngame

112s wagon disappeared like a fart in the wind.

I know, right?

I'm going back there, I think.

@falcon45ca @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @Jackofhearts2005
Follow me. <3

The goddess of sheep compels me

I don't know if this indicates 112 is town, but it makes me want to think about it more tomorrow to see if it makes sense to make that argument.

[Made]

Okay, I guess I'm gonna be playing a bit longer.

Nanook also voted 112 with me and Nute when the votes started swinging back in 112's direction a second time. Here's the proof of this (since he didn't announce the vote in thread, as usual):

tbh gonna go back to [VOTE: 112] aubergine im really not sold on this being her towngame

112s wagon disappeared like a fart in the wind.

I know, right?

I'm going back there, I think.

@falcon45ca @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @Jackofhearts2005
Follow me. <3

The goddess of sheep compels me

I don't know if this indicates 112 is town, but it makes me want to think about it more tomorrow to see if it makes sense to make that argument.

nanook, and marmot both pushed 112 hard. it's part of why I think she's probably town. Off the top of my head, the other player to push 112 hard was Dizzy

[Made]

Okay, I guess I'm gonna be playing a bit longer.

Nanook also voted 112 with me and Nute when the votes started swinging back in 112's direction a second time. Here's the proof of this (since he didn't announce the vote in thread, as usual):

tbh gonna go back to [VOTE: 112] aubergine im really not sold on this being her towngame

112s wagon disappeared like a fart in the wind.

I know, right?

I'm going back there, I think.

@falcon45ca @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @Jackofhearts2005
Follow me. <3

The goddess of sheep compels me

I don't know if this indicates 112 is town, but it makes me want to think about it more tomorrow to see if it makes sense to make that argument.

nanook, and marmot both pushed 112 hard. it's part of why I think she's probably town. Off the top of my head, the other player to push 112 hard was Dizzy

(and me, but don't read too far into that )

[Made]

Is dizzy normally this low of a poster? The only alive player with less post is Alison and she rolled NPC

[Kylemii]

There was no nutella. It was gone.

In its place was a playing card.

sorry if this has been covered already, does this line mean anything to anyone?

[Hyena]

Re Hyena's poll tally, I'm kinda feeling a bit off, cuz I'm town reading Jack, 112, wilgy, and tim. Were we all THAT off yesterday, or am I just that off now?

I need to reread the EoD again to see why people kept moving off of 112. JPIC was the main person I noticed, which was why I was calling him out a bunch at EoD, but like, I don't think he was the only one. As I just mentioned, Nutella switched off of 112, too, to move to Jack. Something weird was happening with that wagon. If 112 isn't scum, I still think it's odd that scum ended up preferring to go for Jack over 112. It took a lot of work to get 112 to be a main wagon again after it disappeared for a bit. I had to ask both Jack and Nanook to join me on it to make it gain momentum again, and Nanook didn't even rejoin until Nutella did, too.

[Made]

There was no nutella. It was gone.

In its place was a playing card.

sorry if this has been covered already, does this line mean anything to anyone?

Running theory right now ( i think) is nutella's role is some sort of swap dead player out mech. She prob figured Jack's role was a cop, but Jack didn't use his role cuz he thought it was just flavor text

[Master Radishes]

There was no nutella. It was gone.

In its place was a playing card.

sorry if this has been covered already, does this line mean anything to anyone?

I take it to mean Nutella may be put back into play later.

[Hyena]

Re Hyena's poll tally, I'm kinda feeling a bit off, cuz I'm town reading Jack, 112, wilgy, and tim. Were we all THAT off yesterday, or am I just that off now?

I need to reread the EoD again to see why people kept moving off of 112. JPIC was the main person I noticed, which was why I was calling him out a bunch at EoD, but like, I don't think he was the only one. As I just mentioned, Nutella switched off of 112, too, to move to Jack. Something weird was happening with that wagon. If 112 isn't scum, I still think it's odd that scum ended up preferring to go for Jack over 112. It took a lot of work to get 112 to be a main wagon again after it disappeared for a bit. I had to ask both Jack and Nanook to join me on it to make it gain momentum again, and Nanook didn't even rejoin until Nutella did, too.

I think I would have called out Nutella for leaving the 112 wagon more if it didn't happen last minute. Because JPIC left the wagon a couple hours before hand (around the time where I left it to help Tim give TSP's wagon some momentum), I had more time to notice him and call him out.

[Master Radishes]

Re Hyena's poll tally, I'm kinda feeling a bit off, cuz I'm town reading Jack, 112, wilgy, and tim. Were we all THAT off yesterday, or am I just that off now?

I need to reread the EoD again to see why people kept moving off of 112. JPIC was the main person I noticed, which was why I was calling him out a bunch at EoD, but like, I don't think he was the only one. As I just mentioned, Nutella switched off of 112, too, to move to Jack. Something weird was happening with that wagon. If 112 isn't scum, I still think it's odd that scum ended up preferring to go for Jack over 112. It took a lot of work to get 112 to be a main wagon again after it disappeared for a bit. I had to ask both Jack and Nanook to join me on it to make it gain momentum again, and Nanook didn't even rejoin until Nutella did, too.

Nothing weird about it imo. Nutella and JPIC like me had both options roughly equal in their PoE. They made a snap choice.

[Hyena]

Okay, I guess I'm gonna be playing a bit longer.

Nanook also voted 112 with me and Nute when the votes started swinging back in 112's direction a second time. Here's the proof of this (since he didn't announce the vote in thread, as usual):

tbh gonna go back to [VOTE: 112] aubergine im really not sold on this being her towngame

112s wagon disappeared like a fart in the wind.

I know, right?

I'm going back there, I think.

@falcon45ca @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @Jackofhearts2005
Follow me. <3

The goddess of sheep compels me

I don't know if this indicates 112 is town, but it makes me want to think about it more tomorrow to see if it makes sense to make that argument.

nanook, and marmot both pushed 112 hard. it's part of why I think she's probably town. Off the top of my head, the other player to push 112 hard was Dizzy

(and me, but don't read too far into that )

Why did we decide to go for 112 over Dizzy? Do you remember? I haven't looked back yet, but didn't we both think that there was one scum between those two?

[Made]

Re Hyena's poll tally, I'm kinda feeling a bit off, cuz I'm town reading Jack, 112, wilgy, and tim. Were we all THAT off yesterday, or am I just that off now?

I need to reread the EoD again to see why people kept moving off of 112. JPIC was the main person I noticed, which was why I was calling him out a bunch at EoD, but like, I don't think he was the only one. As I just mentioned, Nutella switched off of 112, too, to move to Jack. Something weird was happening with that wagon. If 112 isn't scum, I still think it's odd that scum ended up preferring to go for Jack over 112. It took a lot of work to get 112 to be a main wagon again after it disappeared for a bit. I had to ask both Jack and Nanook to join me on it to make it gain momentum again, and Nanook didn't even rejoin until Nutella did, too.

Nothing weird about it imo. Nutella and JPIC like me had both options roughly equal in their PoE. They made a snap choice.

112 voted cat 3rd, then left the wagon when it hit like 9 votes. Do you think that's something 112 does as scum here?

[Hyena]

Mweh, I think I should get to bed. I don't know if I'm making sense right now.

[Kylemii]

There was no nutella. It was gone.

In its place was a playing card.

sorry if this has been covered already, does this line mean anything to anyone?

Running theory right now ( i think) is nutella's role is some sort of swap dead player out mech. She prob figured Jack's role was a cop, but Jack didn't use his role cuz he thought it was just flavor text

OH CUS JACK IS A PLAYING CARD

[Kylemii]

i thought she was kidnapped by the joker

[Master Radishes]

Is dizzy normally this low of a poster? The only alive player with less post is Alison and she rolled NPC

Yeah he's done this before.

[Hyena]

Mweh, I think I should get to bed. I don't know if I'm making sense right now.

Reminder to self: Confirm that Dizzy WAS voting 112 at one point, then try to find the reason behind them switching off of 112.

[Made]

Okay, I guess I'm gonna be playing a bit longer.

Nanook also voted 112 with me and Nute when the votes started swinging back in 112's direction a second time. Here's the proof of this (since he didn't announce the vote in thread, as usual):

tbh gonna go back to [VOTE: 112] aubergine im really not sold on this being her towngame

112s wagon disappeared like a fart in the wind.

I know, right?

I'm going back there, I think.

@falcon45ca @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME @Jackofhearts2005
Follow me. <3

The goddess of sheep compels me

I don't know if this indicates 112 is town, but it makes me want to think about it more tomorrow to see if it makes sense to make that argument.

nanook, and marmot both pushed 112 hard. it's part of why I think she's probably town. Off the top of my head, the other player to push 112 hard was Dizzy

(and me, but don't read too far into that )

Why did we decide to go for 112 over Dizzy? Do you remember? I haven't looked back yet, but didn't we both think that there was one scum between those two?

my biggest reason for voting 112 is the weird vote behavior day 1. My reason for removing sus is finding out she moved her vote away last second. On a wagon like cat's the writing is on the wall. Even if you thought you might be able to swing thing away from that wagon, that's an uphill battle you basically out yourself for if you're wrong. I can't imagine a scum 112 doing that tbh.

If it's not 112, then any place where players are pushing 112 suddently becomes of interest. the one that shoots to my head is dizzy calling out 112 the weird vote she left on cat. I thought this was dizzy noticing something was sus. But if 112 is town, then dizzy trying to shame 112 away from a cat vote when the wagon was still swayable, that's sus.

[Master Radishes]

Re Hyena's poll tally, I'm kinda feeling a bit off, cuz I'm town reading Jack, 112, wilgy, and tim. Were we all THAT off yesterday, or am I just that off now?

I need to reread the EoD again to see why people kept moving off of 112. JPIC was the main person I noticed, which was why I was calling him out a bunch at EoD, but like, I don't think he was the only one. As I just mentioned, Nutella switched off of 112, too, to move to Jack. Something weird was happening with that wagon. If 112 isn't scum, I still think it's odd that scum ended up preferring to go for Jack over 112. It took a lot of work to get 112 to be a main wagon again after it disappeared for a bit. I had to ask both Jack and Nanook to join me on it to make it gain momentum again, and Nanook didn't even rejoin until Nutella did, too.

Nothing weird about it imo. Nutella and JPIC like me had both options roughly equal in their PoE. They made a snap choice.

112 voted cat 3rd, then left the wagon when it hit like 9 votes. Do you think that's something 112 does as scum here?

Knowing her, yes. One of the reasons I've been scum reading her.

I intend to reread her at some point though cuz my read is stale I admit.

[Made]

Mweh, I think I should get to bed. I don't know if I'm making sense right now.

Reminder to self: Confirm that Dizzy WAS voting 112 at one point, then try to find the reason behind them switching off of 112.

check real quick, of all the times me and Michelle logged votes, he didn't vote 112 once.

[Made]

Re Hyena's poll tally, I'm kinda feeling a bit off, cuz I'm town reading Jack, 112, wilgy, and tim. Were we all THAT off yesterday, or am I just that off now?

I need to reread the EoD again to see why people kept moving off of 112. JPIC was the main person I noticed, which was why I was calling him out a bunch at EoD, but like, I don't think he was the only one. As I just mentioned, Nutella switched off of 112, too, to move to Jack. Something weird was happening with that wagon. If 112 isn't scum, I still think it's odd that scum ended up preferring to go for Jack over 112. It took a lot of work to get 112 to be a main wagon again after it disappeared for a bit. I had to ask both Jack and Nanook to join me on it to make it gain momentum again, and Nanook didn't even rejoin until Nutella did, too.

Nothing weird about it imo. Nutella and JPIC like me had both options roughly equal in their PoE. They made a snap choice.

112 voted cat 3rd, then left the wagon when it hit like 9 votes. Do you think that's something 112 does as scum here?

Knowing her, yes. One of the reasons I've been scum reading her.

I intend to reread her at some point though cuz my read is stale I admit.

What game does your scum meta for 112 come from?

[Master Radishes]

Re Hyena's poll tally, I'm kinda feeling a bit off, cuz I'm town reading Jack, 112, wilgy, and tim. Were we all THAT off yesterday, or am I just that off now?

I need to reread the EoD again to see why people kept moving off of 112. JPIC was the main person I noticed, which was why I was calling him out a bunch at EoD, but like, I don't think he was the only one. As I just mentioned, Nutella switched off of 112, too, to move to Jack. Something weird was happening with that wagon. If 112 isn't scum, I still think it's odd that scum ended up preferring to go for Jack over 112. It took a lot of work to get 112 to be a main wagon again after it disappeared for a bit. I had to ask both Jack and Nanook to join me on it to make it gain momentum again, and Nanook didn't even rejoin until Nutella did, too.

Nothing weird about it imo. Nutella and JPIC like me had both options roughly equal in their PoE. They made a snap choice.

112 voted cat 3rd, then left the wagon when it hit like 9 votes. Do you think that's something 112 does as scum here?

Knowing her, yes. One of the reasons I've been scum reading her.

I intend to reread her at some point though cuz my read is stale I admit.

What game does your scum meta for 112 come from?

10 years of experience.

[Made]

Re Hyena's poll tally, I'm kinda feeling a bit off, cuz I'm town reading Jack, 112, wilgy, and tim. Were we all THAT off yesterday, or am I just that off now?

I need to reread the EoD again to see why people kept moving off of 112. JPIC was the main person I noticed, which was why I was calling him out a bunch at EoD, but like, I don't think he was the only one. As I just mentioned, Nutella switched off of 112, too, to move to Jack. Something weird was happening with that wagon. If 112 isn't scum, I still think it's odd that scum ended up preferring to go for Jack over 112. It took a lot of work to get 112 to be a main wagon again after it disappeared for a bit. I had to ask both Jack and Nanook to join me on it to make it gain momentum again, and Nanook didn't even rejoin until Nutella did, too.

Nothing weird about it imo. Nutella and JPIC like me had both options roughly equal in their PoE. They made a snap choice.

112 voted cat 3rd, then left the wagon when it hit like 9 votes. Do you think that's something 112 does as scum here?

Knowing her, yes. One of the reasons I've been scum reading her.

I intend to reread her at some point though cuz my read is stale I admit.

What game does your scum meta for 112 come from?

10 years of experience.

oh.
awww that's wholesome as fuck.

[Kylemii]

Did Kyle ever claim what he earned from silencing himself for D2?

by abstaining from speaking for a day, i was rewarded with the knowledge of the third digit of everyone's ATM pin numbers

[Dyslexicon]

Boop. I'm going to say this totally confirms that I can read Nanook for unsubstantial vibe things.

What is the PoE now? Help.
Also, how many mafia left, like 3?

I know I thought 112 could be teamed with Nanook at some point, but I don't remember if my reasons were good.

[Dyslexicon]

If it's not 112, then any place where players are pushing 112 suddently becomes of interest. the one that shoots to my head is dizzy calling out 112 the weird vote she left on cat. I thought this was dizzy noticing something was sus. But if 112 is town, then dizzy trying to shame 112 away from a cat vote when the wagon was still swayable, that's sus.

What are you talking about here? I do not remember this.

[Dyslexicon]

@Made Can you list your issues with me and then I can try to clarify? Cause you're saying stuff that's blatantly untrue here.

[Dyslexicon]

If Jack came back, does it mean he is really as unchoppable as he says? Also, is he the same role and alignment?

[Made]

dizzy blatant town lock town innocent child

I'm confirmed town now @112

What do you say to that?

@112 Are you not worried about me anymore? Am I not obvwolfing and stuff? Did you ever resolve anything with me?

I don't think I ever recanted my scum read?

I don't think I ever recanted my scum read?

No, you didn't say anything. Lot of people called me town and asked you to explain yourself more. You didn't really do that. Just left your vote in silence. That's why I'm asking. I find that suspect, you see.

one wolf between Dizzy and 112 imo

you never mention cat, but this is a reaction to 112's vote on cat @Dyslexicon

[Dyslexicon]

@Master Radishes I am once again asking you to help me. I just can't get a good enough overview of this game. Can you please tell me the following things:

- What is the case on Tutu?
- What is the case on Martin?
- What do you think about 112?

I'd be forever grateful.

[Master Radishes]

Wait who was the parity cop.

This is why info overload is a bad thing. Stuff leaks out of my brain.

[Master Radishes]

@Master Radishes I am once again asking you to help me. I just can't get a good enough overview of this game. Can you please tell me the following things:

- What is the case on Tutu?
- What is the case on Martin?
- What do you think about 112?

I'd be forever grateful.

Anything for you.

Tim claimed Vig yesterday and says he tried to shoot tutuu after Jack screamed it with his dying words and then flipped as a cop-ish role, but was roleblocked. He has concluded the scum did it to protect a packmate.

Martin was a bit of a random vote. Presence level is the main concern I'd say.

My read on 112 is under renovation and we hope to share it again soon.