Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[Michelle]

This is day 4 of michelle vote parking me over her gut scumread on me during day 0. I think if shes mafia she probbaly thinks more ahead. I probbaly shouldnt tinfoil her

This time my vote is locked, do whatever amount of tinfoil you desire, I want your flip and is not personal, believe me.

You marked all the openwolfing and powerwolfing signs I ever saw since i started to play, and also my logic aligns with my feelings. That's hitting a wolf 99%

Your presence is like Nanook presence, wagon never grows enough and this is extremely suspicious, aand you are mocking me in a pockety style and my inner child is amused but this playful mode you have seems false in this game.
These are just 2 reasons, one logical, one from heart.

I want to focus on everyone else now.

Nothing that ive said in this post or in previous posts directed at u has been mocking

"Think more ahead" means think how will u be perceived after my flip

The mocking thing is somewhere in your iso and i won't dig for it, i think you failed to understand the idea in my post, that was just an eg.

A villa flip from you would be unfortunate but will not change my AI

[Michelle]

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Please determine the next elimination candidate.
Poll runs till Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:00 am
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


112
0
No votes
Voters: None
Alison
0
No votes
Voters: None
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Dyslexicon
0
No votes
Voters: None
Hyena
0
No votes
Voters: None
JackofHearts2005
0
No votes
Voters: None
JustPlayingitcool
0
No votes
Voters: None
Kylemii
1
4%
Voters: MartinGG99
Long Con
0
No votes
Voters: None
Made
0
No votes
Voters: None
MartinGG99
1
4%
Voters: Sloonei
Master Radishes
2
8%
Voters: Made, Syn
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
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2
8%
Voters: Master Radishes, 112
Sloonei
0
No votes
Voters: None
Syn
0
No votes
Voters: None
hollowkatt
1
4%
Voters: tutuu
Timsup2nothin
0
No votes
Voters: None
TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes
Voters: None
tedxtr
0
No votes
Voters: None
tutuu
5
21%
Voters: Dyslexicon, Jackofhearts2005, Michelle, Timsup2nothin, hollowkatt
No vote
3
13%
Voters: Alison, TonyStarkPrime, Justplayingitcool
No elimination
0
No votes
Voters: None
Freewill doesn't exist in the way you think it does! (The Host, the Non, the Dead)
9
38%
Voters: JaggedJimmyJay, nutella, juliets, c4e5g3d5, Marmot, MacDougall, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, dunya, Epignosis
Total votes: 24

vc

[Michelle]

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Post count

[tutuu]

Dammit i wanted to have exactly 1000 posts with my final legacy post

Ill settle for one of these

1010

1060

1111

[tutuu]

@Justplayingitcool jpiccie do u still think im town? It ultimately wont matter as i think im getting yeeted today but this is an opportunity for u to show ur the goat by making a right read that alot of other players are making wrong. It would make u feel good if ur correct i think

[tutuu]

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

@Dyslexicon i always kept putting u and martin in scumreads with no explanation btw wasnt just a today thing

If ur town i give u my blessing to bury 112 tomorrow pls and after her hollowkatt

[Justplayingitcool]

@Justplayingitcool jpiccie do u still think im town? It ultimately wont matter as i think im getting yeeted today but this is an opportunity for u to show ur the goat by making a right read that alot of other players are making wrong. It would make u feel good if ur correct i think

idk

I've been reading you mostly town all game other than some tinfoil at the start of D2. I thought you were spewed town by Marmot, but I won't lie to you, I am starting to lose faith in my read. I think Radishes summed it up best.

Ftr I agree with you guys about Martin and also that Tim's claim seems legit.

I'm just trying to convince myself to turn on my dear friend tutuu. I scum read her hard earlier but felt good about arriving at a TR later and am reluctant to give that up. I just don't feel it. But I admit Tim's theory makes some sense.

[tutuu]

Okay well ill remind about this in my legacy but

Dont panic when u see my flip, tim is still town, martin is probbaly still town, yeet the person whos optimizing my flip the most (which i think is 112) and then hkat. ill probably stop trying to defend myself coz waste of effort, ill make sure to leave a big post with reads tho

[Justplayingitcool]

Has anyone done an ISO of nanook yet. I would, but I am at work atm

[Long Con]

We are allowed to claim, right? But we maybe shouldn't?

That is exactly what it says in the OP from Epi. Slight warning of possible negative repercussions.

We are allowed to claim, right? But we maybe shouldn't?

Do you want to? I was thinking not long ago we don't know the downsides of claiming, eg soup kill. Maybe we need a guinea-pig.

Fine. I am a laser cannon from space invaders. It takes three days to charge, then I get to shoot someone on N3 (or later, I did check because I was seriously considering holstering).

Soup kill to your heart's content.

Soup kill with closed setup? I doubt it severely. But how great it would be to foil a Soup by claiming your exact role, but flavour it from another game.

Nutella/Radish/Martin/JPIC/Probably Syn/Probably Tim/Probably Michelle (if nobody got issues with her, she's probably town, right?)

^These are town/very likely town. Anyone disagree?

I really don't know what's going on with Nutella/Jack switching roles? Did I miss something here? I thought I read that, but haven't retained it.

Nutella: town, I'd like to think that a) she saved Jack, possibly activated after his flip, and b) that she'll be back, based on her lack of flip or regular death
Radish: not totally sure. No big suspicions, seems an all right guy
Martin: town
JPIC: ok he can be town, lots of support for that out there
Syn: why is Syn town? I don't think I disagree but why?
Tim: Laser-town
Michelle: Also generally towny

Are we worried about Alison at all?

Slightly... I took the first deal and I still feel fine though. No reason to turn on her as long as she's still powering us up. Did she target falcon last night?

Are we worried about Alison at all?

Not at the moment

Cool. =p

Last time I was 3p I killed half the game before I peaced out

I haven't followed what the deal is with her role.

What game was that, do you recall?

@Master Radishes kyle claimes parity cop esque same check between falcon and made

Good enough for me, AND looks good on me as well as a past recipient of Kyleparity.

[Michelle]

hottest of hot takes fresh from my griddle

made/nook w/w

Damn caught me already, rip

shhhhhh, if we don't acknowledge it, maybe she'll leave us alone

Don’t be mad bb

wtf, don't bus me day one asshat

I literally cannot help myself

[Long Con]

What do you think Michelle? Made still towny?

[Michelle]

What do you think Michelle? Made still towny?

His play says towny for me, Nanook has wifom-y interactions with too many

[Michelle]

What do you think LC?

[Long Con]

I agree... my townread of Made defeats Nanook's attempts to muddy the waters. I think Made has done more than enough to shrug off this interaction.

[Long Con]

Thinking about Nanook, my interaction with him about him not calling his votes looks good on me. If I'm allowed to toot my own horn. I think I have several pretty good indicators that I am town at this point, and I should be present in town lists that people make. You will not be disappointed by including me.

[tutuu]

yea ur good lc

[Long Con]

yea ur good lc

And you are TOO good. You have specifically laid it out in the past how there's nothing you wouldn't do as a wolf to seem towny, and now, when I detect indicators that you're town, they get scrubbed away by those filters, leaving you unreadable to me. That inscrutability makes you a threat, and then other factors like the suspicion of players I respect, or possible mechanical indicators like the Tim laser thing, become the only metric I have through which I can judge you. I'm gonna have to vote you dead sometime soon. Probably today, right?

Is there any claimy proof inherent in your role that could help?

[tutuu]

yea ur good lc

And you are TOO good. You have specifically laid it out in the past how there's nothing you wouldn't do as a wolf to seem towny, and now, when I detect indicators that you're town, they get scrubbed away by those filters, leaving you unreadable to me. That inscrutability makes you a threat, and then other factors like the suspicion of players I respect, or possible mechanical indicators like the Tim laser thing, become the only metric I have through which I can judge you. I'm gonna have to vote you dead sometime soon. Probably today, right?

Is there any claimy proof inherent in your role that could help?

yea i most likely die today, its okay i understand

my role is completely NAI and i cant prove anything about it unfortunately

[Dyslexicon]

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

@Dyslexicon i always kept putting u and martin in scumreads with no explanation btw wasnt just a today thing

If ur town i give u my blessing to bury 112 tomorrow pls and after her hollowkatt

I know.

I feel a bit awkward bitching about people scum reading me, cause I have not a great clue as to who is scum outside PoE reasoning myself. But my own alignment is all I know, and also I have concrete reasons to think Martin is town.

[tutuu]

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

@Dyslexicon i always kept putting u and martin in scumreads with no explanation btw wasnt just a today thing

If ur town i give u my blessing to bury 112 tomorrow pls and after her hollowkatt

I know.

I feel a bit awkward bitching about people scum reading me, cause I have not a great clue as to who is scum outside PoE reasoning myself. But my own alignment is all I know, and also I have concrete reasons to think Martin is town.

i agree martin town

[Dyslexicon]

@Long Con I have Syn as town for being one of the first voters on Marmot. I don't actually think I've read near any of their posts.

I don't know if Alison targeted Falcon. I didn't even realise he was dead before someone mentioned it in thread. o.o

The game I was 3p was Escape from Trump Tower. Don't think that's relevant here though.

[Long Con]

@Long Con I have Syn as town for being one of the first voters on Marmot. I don't actually think I've read near any of their posts.

I don't know if Alison targeted Falcon. I didn't even realise he was dead before someone mentioned it in thread. o.o

The game I was 3p was Escape from Trump Tower. Don't think that's relevant here though.

Relevance only in seeing if it was an Epi game or not.

[Dyslexicon]

@Sloonei Why are your votes bad and stuff?

[Kylemii]

@Master Radishes kyle claimes parity cop esque same check between falcon and made

Falcon and Long Con

[Kylemii]

Con Bros

[Kylemii]

I'm no big city lawyer. I'm not good at fancy words and arguments, but if you trusted me RE: Falcon and/or Long Con consider also trusting me with regards to Tutuu. :zen:

[Justplayingitcool]

I'm no big city lawyer. I'm not good at fancy words and arguments, but if you trusted me RE: Falcon and/or Long Con consider also trusting me with regards to Tutuu. :zen:

Meaning?

[hollowkatt]

JackofHearts2005
tutuu
Syn
JustPlayingitcool
Made
Hyena
Timsup2nothin
Master Radishes
Sloonei
Michelle
DrWilgy
Long Con
tedxtr
MartinGG99
Kylemii
TonyStarkPrime
Dyslexicon
hollowkatt
112
Alison

baring the focus on you why am I as low as I am for you?

[Kylemii]

Meaning?

Means Tutuu's town and shouldn't be yeeted today.

[Justplayingitcool]

Meaning?

Means Tutuu's town and shouldn't be yeeted today.

Gotcha. Just wanted to clarify!

[Justplayingitcool]

Meaning?

Means Tutuu's town and shouldn't be yeeted today.

Gotcha. Just wanted to clarify!

For the attention of:

@Dyslexicon @Jackofhearts2005 @Michelle @Timsup2nothin @hollowkatt

Please look at the above. Does this change things for you, in regards to tutuu?

[Dyslexicon]

Meaning?

Means Tutuu's town and shouldn't be yeeted today.

Gotcha. Just wanted to clarify!

For the attention of:

@Dyslexicon @Jackofhearts2005 @Michelle @Timsup2nothin @hollowkatt

Please look at the above. Does this change things for you, in regards to tutuu?

Eh. I don't trust Tutu much. I don't know what reason Kyle has for this or how waterproof they are, but I'm pretty sure he believes it. I'm fine going elsewhere. I'm not really the sheriff in this town anyway.

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

For example.

[hollowkatt]

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Spell it to me like i am a baby

I just did. The wolves protected Tutuu from my shot...why would wolves protect Tutuu? Think about that.

i can offer some explanations: they wasnt sure u were gonna shoot me and didnt wanna take the risk and/or protecting a town from a vig shot is still good for mafia because then you get to yeet them

if i was shot and flipped town someone else gets yeeted today, it advances the game faster

if im kept alive as town the PoE is resolved 1 slot slower and scum de facto earn a bonus night kill potentially depending on how night goes

on the other hand, Tim claimed his shot, and if you flip town probably we take a long hard look at Tim today. All "not killing" you does is make you the focus for the day...

@Timsup2nothin please take a mental note of this post / try to remember it

imagine a situation where im yeeted today and flip town, i want you to remember this post tomorrow if you're alive and if you're town

(im suggesting to u that i think u should be scumreading hollowkatt tomorrow if all of the abovementioned events unfold)

@tutuu straight up you think I've got any kind of credit in this thread to setup chain chops on you and Tim?

i dont see "credit", i see you expressing your reads. regardless of your alignment they are there in the thread, i dont think anyone has more "credit" than anyone else. regardless of ur alignment u are going to be perceived based off of ur reads

Hi Tutuu, thanks for dodging the question!
I'm asking you if you think I have enough thread presence and authority to push through a chain of chops on you and then Tim should you flip town.
You ignored the question and then talked about how I'm expressing my reads in the thread.
I also strongly disagree that "anyone has more credit than anyone else" as we all know there are people in this thread that would be listened to more than someone else.
For example, during D1 people listened to Mac, right?
D2 people listened to Nutella, same on D3.

So I ask you again, do you think I can get enough of the thread to listen to me if I try pushing through a Tim chop if you are chopped/shot and flip town.

[tutuu]

@Master Radishes kyle claimes parity cop esque same check between falcon and made

Falcon and Long Con

oh

JackofHearts2005
tutuu
Syn
JustPlayingitcool
Made
Hyena
Timsup2nothin
Master Radishes
Sloonei
Michelle
DrWilgy
Long Con
tedxtr
MartinGG99
Kylemii
TonyStarkPrime
Dyslexicon
hollowkatt
112
Alison

baring the focus on you why am I as low as I am for you?

as ive said, i think 112 is scum and shes bussing u

[Michelle]

Meaning?

Means Tutuu's town and shouldn't be yeeted today.

Gotcha. Just wanted to clarify!

For the attention of:

@Dyslexicon @Jackofhearts2005 @Michelle @Timsup2nothin @hollowkatt

Please look at the above. Does this change things for you, in regards to tutuu?

No
Mechanics may give wrong results. What if she is godfather?

[tutuu]

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I just did. The wolves protected Tutuu from my shot...why would wolves protect Tutuu? Think about that.

i can offer some explanations: they wasnt sure u were gonna shoot me and didnt wanna take the risk and/or protecting a town from a vig shot is still good for mafia because then you get to yeet them

if i was shot and flipped town someone else gets yeeted today, it advances the game faster

if im kept alive as town the PoE is resolved 1 slot slower and scum de facto earn a bonus night kill potentially depending on how night goes

on the other hand, Tim claimed his shot, and if you flip town probably we take a long hard look at Tim today. All "not killing" you does is make you the focus for the day...

@Timsup2nothin please take a mental note of this post / try to remember it

imagine a situation where im yeeted today and flip town, i want you to remember this post tomorrow if you're alive and if you're town

(im suggesting to u that i think u should be scumreading hollowkatt tomorrow if all of the abovementioned events unfold)

@tutuu straight up you think I've got any kind of credit in this thread to setup chain chops on you and Tim?

i dont see "credit", i see you expressing your reads. regardless of your alignment they are there in the thread, i dont think anyone has more "credit" than anyone else. regardless of ur alignment u are going to be perceived based off of ur reads

Hi Tutuu, thanks for dodging the question!
I'm asking you if you think I have enough thread presence and authority to push through a chain of chops on you and then Tim should you flip town.
You ignored the question and then talked about how I'm expressing my reads in the thread.
I also strongly disagree that "anyone has more credit than anyone else" as we all know there are people in this thread that would be listened to more than someone else.
For example, during D1 people listened to Mac, right?
D2 people listened to Nutella, same on D3.

So I ask you again, do you think I can get enough of the thread to listen to me if I try pushing through a Tim chop if you are chopped/shot and flip town.

i didnt like the frame of your question so i didnt go along with it

i dont care about thread presence and authority, i dont think that its possible to tell that tim wont get heat on the day tomorrow if i get yeeted and flip town. i think that he will and it looked to me like thats what u were gunning for. admittedly i had misread your post

i dont see why u cant be scum because of this

[hollowkatt]

This is day 4 of michelle vote parking me over her gut scumread on me during day 0. I think if shes mafia she probbaly thinks more ahead. I probbaly shouldnt tinfoil her

This time my vote is locked, do whatever amount of tinfoil you desire, I want your flip and is not personal, believe me.

You marked all the openwolfing and powerwolfing signs I ever saw since i started to play, and also my logic aligns with my feelings. That's hitting a wolf 99%

Your presence is like Nanook presence, wagon never grows enough and this is extremely suspicious, aand you are mocking me in a pockety style and my inner child is amused but this playful mode you have seems false in this game.
These are just 2 reasons, one logical, one from heart.

I want to focus on everyone else now.

as always you put into words the things that I can't

[hollowkatt]

This is day 4 of michelle vote parking me over her gut scumread on me during day 0. I think if shes mafia she probbaly thinks more ahead. I probbaly shouldnt tinfoil her

Okay but full disclosure I've been quietly and lightly tinfoiling her since midway through D3 when I realised she was trundling along doing her own thing without actually seeming to care in where she ended up.

I think you have that backwards Radish, that's when Michelle is being town

[tutuu]

wait so is kyle claiming a parity cop peek of "same" between me and long con and falcon

so u guys should probably unvote me

[tutuu]

wait so is kyle claiming a parity cop peek of "same" between me and long con and falcon

so u guys should probably unvote me

@Kylemii are u?

[Justplayingitcool]

wait so is kyle claiming a parity cop peek of "same" between me and long con and falcon

so u guys should probably unvote me

@Kylemii are u?

That's what it sounded like to me

[tutuu]

Meaning?

Means Tutuu's town and shouldn't be yeeted today.

Gotcha. Just wanted to clarify!

For the attention of:

@Dyslexicon @Jackofhearts2005 @Michelle @Timsup2nothin @hollowkatt

Please look at the above. Does this change things for you, in regards to tutuu?

No
Mechanics may give wrong results. What if she is godfather?

lol

tutuu being godfather more likely than michelle getting a wrong read

[Kylemii]

well that's not exactly correct but it is pretty much correct

[tutuu]

feels good to be peeked town sorry that i ever doubted u kyle

[Kylemii]

I'm not a cop of any kind I just keep finding shit out in the process of trying to do other stuff lol

[Michelle]

Meaning?

Means Tutuu's town and shouldn't be yeeted today.

Gotcha. Just wanted to clarify!

For the attention of:

@Dyslexicon @Jackofhearts2005 @Michelle @Timsup2nothin @hollowkatt

Please look at the above. Does this change things for you, in regards to tutuu?

No
Mechanics may give wrong results. What if she is godfather?

lol

tutuu being godfather more likely than michelle getting a wrong read

If I am wrong i will write you endgame a poem dedicated to the most misunderstood player on earth.

[Syn]

Nutella/Radish/Martin/JPIC/Probably Syn/Probably Tim/Probably Michelle (if nobody got issues with her, she's probably town, right?)

^These are town/very likely town. Anyone disagree?

I really don't know what's going on with Nutella/Jack switching roles? Did I miss something here? I thought I read that, but haven't retained it.

Hard disagree. No idea why town is ignoring that I've very very very obviously implied mech info of Radish being a wolf.

So I will make it crystal clear. I have mech info that indicates Radish is a wolf. I will not reveal what that info is until D5. I am the one who cased Marmot and I am the one who picked Marmot for the flash wagon. I've been very townie. I gain nothing in this scenario if I'm wolfing because I get turbo-chopped tomorrow if Radish is a civilian. He is a wolf.

[Michelle]

I'm not a cop of any kind I just keep finding shit out in the process of trying to do other stuff lol

Share your work please

[tutuu]

how townsided is this game lmfao whats up with all this mech info