Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[DrWilgy]

Lets yeet Michelle.

Don't

Please!!! I need it!

[Master Radishes]

this is probably how I find out Wilgy is a Paranoid Gun Owner

I wouldn't even be mad.

[Michelle]

Lets yeet Michelle.

Don't

Please!!! I need it!

Do it tiger, i go to sleep then

[Kylemii]

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine I'll be around if anyone has any galaxy brain move ideas

[Michelle]

Legacy read: tutuu is scum

[Kylemii]

this is probably how I find out Wilgy is a Paranoid Gun Owner

I wouldn't even be mad.

would be funny

maybe it wouldn't even work that way, cus I think my theft targeting is technically a day power??? w/e anyways.

[hollowkatt]

I've been doubting my 112 read, but,

I'm not gonna be very available for the rest of the day.

Feel free to keep throwing the game.

I don't know that I've ever seen 112 adopt this attitude when town.

I wouldnt buy any AtE from her either

Didnt she make up an imaginary cat that died and said she was grieving over it in a game where she was scum and wanted an excuse to not post

LMAO I nearly forgot about that.

Rip Benson.

@nutella @MacDougall @Hyena

I remember spec chat that game went nutso over Benson RIP

[Master Radishes]

I'm curious who the scum choose to shoot. The first couple kills were just fear kills. But now they have mech to consider, a soldifying towncore, etc.

[Syn]

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine I'll be around if anyone has any galaxy brain move ideas

so here's a thought

you can steal abilities for a night

i can use the ability of whoever gets chopped

but there are charged abilities

if you steal a charge ability, or i get the charged ability of a chop... do we still need to charge or do we get to use it immediately?

like if tim died

or if you stole from tim again

do we get another gun?

[DrWilgy]

this is probably how I find out Wilgy is a Paranoid Gun Owner

I wouldn't even be mad.

would be funny

maybe it wouldn't even work that way, cus I think my theft targeting is technically a day power??? w/e anyways.

I am very confused. We'll see what happens.

[Master Radishes]

Speaking of tinfoil,

We think scum didn't get a kill, right? What if they holstered to charge up for something?

[Syn]

Legacy read: tutuu is scum

why are you placing down a legacy read

[Syn]

Speaking of tinfoil,

We think scum didn't get a kill, right? What if they holstered to charge up for something?

nutella was protected

i'm kind of assuming they shot her, she survived, and then she used her switcheroo ability on CONFIRMED TOWN COP Jack

[Sloonei]

I think the wolves are running this game at this point, but it's still early and we got those early scores so I'm not gonna fight it. Town will take a couple punches in the mouth and then wake up.

Three dead wolves in three days does not scream “wolves are in charge” to me.

Is there something about "at this point" that wasn't clear?

At this point there are three dead wolves in three days.

[Master Radishes]

Speaking of tinfoil,

We think scum didn't get a kill, right? What if they holstered to charge up for something?

nutella was protected

i'm kind of assuming they shot her, she survived, and then she used her switcheroo ability on CONFIRMED TOWN COP Jack

Oh yeah, that's fine then. Thanks.

[Justplayingitcool]

Speaking of tinfoil,

We think scum didn't get a kill, right? What if they holstered to charge up for something?

nutella was protected

i'm kind of assuming they shot her, she survived, and then she used her switcheroo ability on CONFIRMED TOWN COP Jack

Yeah that's my thinking too

[Michelle]

Legacy read: tutuu is scum

why are you placing down a legacy read

DrW wants me dead.
If i get CFDed when i sleep, i have to let something to town

[Master Radishes]

Legacy read: tutuu is scum

why are you placing down a legacy read

Yeah. Wtf.

[Michelle]

Legacy read: tutuu is scum

why are you placing down a legacy read

Yeah. Wtf.

Smh

[Made]

I'm curious who the scum choose to shoot. The first couple kills were just fear kills. But now they have mech to consider, a soldifying towncore, etc.

Yeah I don’t envy them. Lot to solve, and then you have to assume if you target the wrong person you’re outted

[hollowkatt]

A third general observation:

Of the parameters we can be sure of (the three scum, the dead town, a couple mech things) I do not see any Grand Wolf Agenda that people always fear exists. I see wolves who were individually working to slide by as best they could. Cat was just trying to fend off some early suss without implicating teammates. Marmot was being opportunistic in all his pushes rather than powerwolfing. Nanook was doing jack and showed no inclination to get more involved to start dictating events. Both those latter two are capable of being manipulative wolves and were not doing it. Their flipped powers were weak and were clearly not being used to further any specific agenda either.

Conversely, the dead townies were active, pushy, and correct. The wolves were being boxed out and were picking it off the Big Scary Towny Leaders as they saw them.

This suggests the wolf team that remains is not in control of this game. The town is.

Agree/disagree?

if the loud shouty people are town yes, if they're not no

[Syn]

Legacy read: tutuu is scum

why are you placing down a legacy read

DrW wants me dead.
If i get CFDed when i sleep, i have to let something to town

d... do you think DrWilgy has the cachet to flash wagon you?

[Timsup2nothin]

I think the wolves are running this game at this point, but it's still early and we got those early scores so I'm not gonna fight it. Town will take a couple punches in the mouth and then wake up.

Three dead wolves in three days does not scream “wolves are in charge” to me.

Is there something about "at this point" that wasn't clear?

At this point there are three dead wolves in three days.

[Justplayingitcool]

A third general observation:

Of the parameters we can be sure of (the three scum, the dead town, a couple mech things) I do not see any Grand Wolf Agenda that people always fear exists. I see wolves who were individually working to slide by as best they could. Cat was just trying to fend off some early suss without implicating teammates. Marmot was being opportunistic in all his pushes rather than powerwolfing. Nanook was doing jack and showed no inclination to get more involved to start dictating events. Both those latter two are capable of being manipulative wolves and were not doing it. Their flipped powers were weak and were clearly not being used to further any specific agenda either.

Conversely, the dead townies were active, pushy, and correct. The wolves were being boxed out and were picking it off the Big Scary Towny Leaders as they saw them.

This suggests the wolf team that remains is not in control of this game. The town is.

Agree/disagree?

if the loud shouty people are town yes, if they're not no

WHO YOU CALLIN SHOUTY

[Syn]

ew light theme

[Syn]

game of champs meme but make it tim genuinely being dejected that we've killed half or just about half of the scum team by d4 and using champs as his justification

[DrWilgy]

Legacy read: tutuu is scum

why are you placing down a legacy read

DrW wants me dead.
If i get CFDed when i sleep, i have to let something to town

Wrong, I don't want you dead. I want you to change your ways and stop killing town. If we could all just get along and scum were to concede we wouldn't need to yeet you.

[Master Radishes]

A third general observation:

Of the parameters we can be sure of (the three scum, the dead town, a couple mech things) I do not see any Grand Wolf Agenda that people always fear exists. I see wolves who were individually working to slide by as best they could. Cat was just trying to fend off some early suss without implicating teammates. Marmot was being opportunistic in all his pushes rather than powerwolfing. Nanook was doing jack and showed no inclination to get more involved to start dictating events. Both those latter two are capable of being manipulative wolves and were not doing it. Their flipped powers were weak and were clearly not being used to further any specific agenda either.

Conversely, the dead townies were active, pushy, and correct. The wolves were being boxed out and were picking it off the Big Scary Towny Leaders as they saw them.

This suggests the wolf team that remains is not in control of this game. The town is.

Agree/disagree?

if the loud shouty people are town yes, if they're not no

We are but also I don't think it matters. As per my observations of the three wolves, they are not agenda-driven beyond 'stay alive'. The choices of kill (Dya, Mac, likely Nutella) are fear kills. The current loud shouty people were ideologically aligned with Nutella, at least, with obviously more variation the further back you go.

I think the current gamestate is a legacy of what Dya/Mac/Nutella started, with people like me and JPIC actively working with them back then even. So I just don't see how wolves have any sort of control right now. Maaaybe one we've missed. But that's it.

[Syn]

tim is acting so wolfy on purpose and then refuses to utilize the reactions to his wolfy play for anything pro-town, it's kinda wild

love that for him

real good stuff

[Sloonei]

game of champs meme but make it tim genuinely being dejected that we've killed half or just about half of the scum team by d4 and using champs as his justification

I thought he was trying to point out that it’s Day 4.

[Michelle]

Legacy read: tutuu is scum

why are you placing down a legacy read

DrW wants me dead.
If i get CFDed when i sleep, i have to let something to town

d... do you think DrWilgy has the cachet to flash wagon you?

Probably he has hidden talents

[hollowkatt]

Tbh just look at the names on my wagon-
Michelle, TonyStarkPrime, Made, tedxtr, Long Con, Dyslexicon, DrWilgy,

This probably contains nearly all--if not all--if the remaining wolves. They're very content with this user.

GTH on that list it's TSP, Ted, Dizzy, Wiggly and no I can't explain any of that

[Kylemii]

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine I'll be around if anyone has any galaxy brain move ideas

so here's a thought

you can steal abilities for a night

i can use the ability of whoever gets chopped

but there are charged abilities

if you steal a charge ability, or i get the charged ability of a chop... do we still need to charge or do we get to use it immediately?

like if tim died

or if you stole from tim again

do we get another gun?

what if I target you with my vote and I get lynched??? would you steal your own ability in an infinite loop?

[Timsup2nothin]

Speaking of tinfoil,

We think scum didn't get a kill, right? What if they holstered to charge up for something?

nutella was protected

i'm kind of assuming they shot her, she survived, and then she used her switcheroo ability on CONFIRMED TOWN COP Jack

Oh yeah, that's fine then. Thanks.

I'd reverse the order. She used her switcheroo and by the time the faction kill came up in the order of resolution there was no Nutella. But the technicalities only matter if there's a question about the protective.

[Master Radishes]

game of champs meme but make it tim genuinely being dejected that we've killed half or just about half of the scum team by d4 and using champs as his justification

I thought he was trying to point out that it’s Day 4.

Me too.

[Justplayingitcool]

Tim has blatantly ignored people when asked who the wolves are from his PoV

[DrWilgy]

Legacy read: tutuu is scum

why are you placing down a legacy read

DrW wants me dead.
If i get CFDed when i sleep, i have to let something to town

d... do you think DrWilgy has the cachet to flash wagon you?

I feel slighted at this comment and I'm not sure why.

[hollowkatt]

A third general observation:

Of the parameters we can be sure of (the three scum, the dead town, a couple mech things) I do not see any Grand Wolf Agenda that people always fear exists. I see wolves who were individually working to slide by as best they could. Cat was just trying to fend off some early suss without implicating teammates. Marmot was being opportunistic in all his pushes rather than powerwolfing. Nanook was doing jack and showed no inclination to get more involved to start dictating events. Both those latter two are capable of being manipulative wolves and were not doing it. Their flipped powers were weak and were clearly not being used to further any specific agenda either.

Conversely, the dead townies were active, pushy, and correct. The wolves were being boxed out and were picking it off the Big Scary Towny Leaders as they saw them.

This suggests the wolf team that remains is not in control of this game. The town is.

Agree/disagree?

if the loud shouty people are town yes, if they're not no

We are but also I don't think it matters. As per my observations of the three wolves, they are not agenda-driven beyond 'stay alive'. The choices of kill (Dya, Mac, likely Nutella) are fear kills. The current loud shouty people were ideologically aligned with Nutella, at least, with obviously more variation the further back you go.

I think the current gamestate is a legacy of what Dya/Mac/Nutella started, with people like me and JPIC actively working with them back then even. So I just don't see how wolves have any sort of control right now. Maaaybe one we've missed. But that's it.

yeah, the shouty people are generally going along the same lines as our former town leaders so yeah, generally things seem good for us.
Maybe looking at people who think things aren't good for us then?

[DrWilgy]

Tim has blatantly ignored people when asked who the wolves are from his PoV

...

Yeet Tim?

[DrWilgy]

Legacy read: tutuu is scum

why are you placing down a legacy read

DrW wants me dead.
If i get CFDed when i sleep, i have to let something to town

d... do you think DrWilgy has the cachet to flash wagon you?

Probably he has hidden talents

Michelle, you are quickly becoming one of my favorite players. <3

And yes, I do have favorites. Compete for my love children!!!!

[Michelle]

Legacy read: tutuu is scum

why are you placing down a legacy read

DrW wants me dead.
If i get CFDed when i sleep, i have to let something to town

Wrong, I don't want you dead. I want you to change your ways and stop killing town. If we could all just get along and scum were to concede we wouldn't need to yeet you.

Is 112 in your town pile?
I don't want to kill town, you can relax, i want to kill wolves

[Master Radishes]

Tim has blatantly ignored people when asked who the wolves are from his PoV

Probably towny of him?

He's not even attempting to push an agenda. He's just grumbling because he's fallen out of sync with the flow of the game and has a natural wariness when it comes to 'towncores' and 'consensus' and such.

I dunno. I get it. I've said the same thing as disengaged town before.

[Timsup2nothin]

Tim has blatantly ignored people when asked who the wolves are from his PoV

[Master Radishes]

yeah, the shouty people are generally going along the same lines as our former town leaders so yeah, generally things seem good for us.
Maybe looking at people who think things aren't good for us then?

Gimme your best Tim read then.

[hollowkatt]

there is missing info on the baseball ball on n3 -> day 4

if anyone roleblocked anyone on n3 it could be the baseballer role

hollowkatt was disrupted my radish n3

hollowkatt could be the baseball ball pitcher

Hard claim NOT baseball pitcher

[Michelle]

Legacy read: tutuu is scum

why are you placing down a legacy read

DrW wants me dead.
If i get CFDed when i sleep, i have to let something to town

d... do you think DrWilgy has the cachet to flash wagon you?

Probably he has hidden talents

Michelle, you are quickly becoming one of my favorite players. <3

And yes, I do have favorites. Compete for my love children!!!!

[112]

[VOTE: drwilgy] aubergine

[Syn]

there is missing info on the baseball ball on n3 -> day 4

if anyone roleblocked anyone on n3 it could be the baseballer role

hollowkatt was disrupted my radish n3

hollowkatt could be the baseball ball pitcher

Hard claim NOT baseball pitcher

but are you the baseball ball pitcher?

[Syn]

guys i think we should sleep

[hollowkatt]

yeah, the shouty people are generally going along the same lines as our former town leaders so yeah, generally things seem good for us.
Maybe looking at people who think things aren't good for us then?

Gimme your best Tim read then.

@Master Radishes