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Sorry for the quad post! Hi Hedgie! You don't have to understand it. I admit that I could be totally wrong. But even if I'm right, that trust will diminish in no time at all. With recruitments and what-not going on.Hedgeowl wrote:I dont know what devein means about trusting all of us at this time, but i saw this movie a long time ago.
>SpaghettiEverywhere wrote:Whoever even considered voting for me for the reason of me not being here, I am disappointed. Already I have bad feelings about llama and its barely even a day. I didnt want to fight I wanted to give hugs.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
Yes, that tricky Llama needs to be examined. I hope you don't beat a poor little kitty like me in a fight. I have to say though, I haven't played with a few of these people before so I'm not sure I know how I feel about them yet.
I don't understand your thinking here. How is this any different from leaving? Are we assuming we'll have some sort of home field advantage over a fight we still haven't learned the details of? I'm assuming you're proposing a voting block? Which we would (I hope) have regardless of traveling or not. What am I missing?thellama73 wrote:Isn't it reasonable to assume that other towns face exactly the same problem though? They will reduce their numbers as well, and some of them will doubtless move here.Keterman wrote:So it is the top two candidates that we voted for pitted against each other. Because of that, staying here seems like a bad idea. I imagine we would only lower our numbers without making any progress. Maybe not, but moving feels like much less of a risk at this point.
I propose a Wilmington Alliance, where we stay here and then make the newcomers fight each other when they arrive.
It's a good flick - you'll enjoy it. I loved the book too. Even after seeing the movie, the book is worth the read. Also I've had this stuck in my head all day:Sorsha wrote:They both have fighting and Brad Pitt in them! Other than that, I wouldn't know. I guess I'll have to watch Fight Club now.thellama73 wrote:Those are not remotely the same movie.Sorsha wrote:I just realized that I never saw this movie. I thought I did but I confused it with Snatch.
Lol - I thought Beer too when I first read it. Then I was all. NO! NOT NEW CASTLE THIS PLACE. THE BEER'S ENGLISH!!!!Hedgeowl wrote:Yep, beer.Keterman wrote:Is there any particular reason you chose New Castle?Hedgeowl wrote:Sorry all to miss this vote. I had the two games aligned at 6pm in my brain. I voted new castle for our next destination .
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Ok, now that i have caught up, I would have voted spaghetti most likely as well. Interesting that we are pitted against each other. i dont like that either, but then agin even though we have been. Put into teams, the civs still have a separate objective from project mayhem right? Although some good points were made about traditional roles being differnet this game. I dont know what devein means about trusting all of us at this time, but i saw this movie a long time ago.
There's some solid reasoning here. Especially the bolded bits.Keterman wrote:I don't see how staying here will make us stronger though. If we become the number one town for all of the fights to occur, then okay. But the other towns have an equal chance of that happening, so staying here doesn't automatically make us the best town. Assuming that the other towns have the same amount of knowledge as we do, it's not unlikely that someone proposes the same argument that you did in each town. Then no one moves, and the numbers are reduced in each town, which I imagine can't be a good thing. If we move, we will either confirm that the towns are equal or confirm that they are not, which is helpful information in either case. It's also likely that we will gain some other information that will help us. By staying here, it's too likely that we remain at Square 1 as far as what we need to know to progress. I agree that it would be nice to form an alliance, but I think it's too early to go along with such a proposal. We still don't know what fighting is in this game.thellama73 wrote:Isn't it reasonable to assume that other towns face exactly the same problem though? They will reduce their numbers as well, and some of them will doubtless move here.Keterman wrote:So it is the top two candidates that we voted for pitted against each other. Because of that, staying here seems like a bad idea. I imagine we would only lower our numbers without making any progress. Maybe not, but moving feels like much less of a risk at this point.
I propose a Wilmington Alliance, where we stay here and then make the newcomers fight each other when they arrive.
We have a pretty trickstery and wide spread player list. I believe Black Rock and Long Con are playing this as well? Never say never my friend.thellama73 wrote:No. No one else has a mind that works like mine. I assure you I am the only one to come up with the alliance plan.Keterman wrote:Assuming that the other towns have the same amount of knowledge as we do, it's not unlikely that someone proposes the same argument that you did in each town. Then no one moves, and the numbers are reduced in each town, which I imagine can't be a good thing.
Devin the Omniscient wrote:Responding to a couple of people on page 2:
I never said I thought we were all on the same team, only that I believe that I can trust everyone here for the time being. Obviously if my suspicion is correct, a lot of us could be recruited eventually. So I am keeping my distance. Keep in mind that this is far from a typical Mafia game. That being said, this is a typical Sock game
Aaaand now I am not sure I agree. How is staying here giving us any kind of advantage? presumably everyone else in every other thread have two people fighting as well. So if someone comes here, their numbers will be the same as ours. How is staying or going giving us any sort of advantage at this point?Devin the Omniscient wrote:I'm going to have to agree with llama on this one. I would feel much better about staying here and taking on any new comers.
*Votes to Stay*
Sgettie!!!! Really? You're doing that!! AWESOME!!! I seriously can't say how proud of you that makes me right now. Good on you!!>SpaghettiEverywhere wrote:Whoever decided to listen to llama is ridiculous. Why would you vote for someone who isnt here when there are clearly people who want to be voted for? Im sorry I wasnt here to respond. Im currently in the middle of rural new york helping rebuild homes for poor people. I have no access to a computer and very limited access of my phone in which I have to check mafia.
I know you have limited access, but this is an atypical game. We're not sure yet if "fighting" = lynch or not. We aren't sure what's going on. I'm not by any means defending llama, but you must take a few minutes and look back at what's been discussed and see that this is not going to be a typical game with vote=lynch during the day. You became a guinie pig I guess because llama and others felt it was less of a risk to throw out someone who hadn't checked in yet. Have you seen the movie? Or read the book? I think this may be one of the few mafia instences where some background knowlege of the theme will be helpful to playing the game.>SpaghettiEverywhere wrote:And if I end up dying here then you will all be sorely disappointed. I dont know if boogs is bad and im sorry boogs if youre good and you end up dying. In any case I think we should all look at llama next and I dont know what any of these poll options mean so im just gonna choose a random one I think
I've been liking Keter's thinking thus far. I'm stealing rox's name shortening because I hear (the kinght's who say) Ni - I've not played with her before and am just kinda seeing her around the forum. She's still very new to me. I think I've played with everyone else at least once before.Boogs wrote:Yay Spaghetti you're in the game now
Epignosis wrote:Bitch, my identity is my identity theft protection!
I still disagree with his logic (it doesn't help that his response to my argument was literally a joke) on staying here, and I'm a little surprised that most of the players so far are agreeing with him rather than me. If you're asking if I'm suspicious of him, I'm not. Or if I am, it's not a higher suspicion than anyone else. It is only Night 1 of a lengthy game and I've yet to develop any reads.Boogs wrote:Keterman I'm glad you're playing again. I hope you can give some good input in this game since you got replaced in Occultism. What are your thoughts on Llama, Keterman?
Not defending sgettie any more than I was defending llama - but I can see where he was coming from as well. Especially if he crammed reading on his phone while he's in the middle of no where.Keterman wrote:I still disagree with his logic (it doesn't help that his response to my argument was literally a joke) on staying here, and I'm a little surprised that most of the players so far are agreeing with him rather than me. If you're asking if I'm suspicious of him, I'm not. Or if I am, it's not a higher suspicion than anyone else. It is only Night 1 of a lengthy game and I've yet to develop any reads.Boogs wrote:Keterman I'm glad you're playing again. I hope you can give some good input in this game since you got replaced in Occultism. What are your thoughts on Llama, Keterman?
I'm surprised that SpaghettiEverywhere was surprised that we all voted for him. As llama said, those that volunteered could have ulterior motives, and because we don't know anything about what fighting is like, it was best to throw a virtual non-participant into the ring. If I was him, I would agree with that logic and would have no complaints about being the top candidate.
Epignosis wrote:Bitch, my identity is my identity theft protection!
Sorry for my lenghty post - I had lots to catch up on.Keterman wrote:I still disagree with his logic (it doesn't help that his response to my argument was literally a joke) on staying here, and I'm a little surprised that most of the players so far are agreeing with him rather than me. If you're asking if I'm suspicious of him, I'm not. Or if I am, it's not a higher suspicion than anyone else. It is only Night 1 of a lengthy game and I've yet to develop any reads.Boogs wrote:Keterman I'm glad you're playing again. I hope you can give some good input in this game since you got replaced in Occultism. What are your thoughts on Llama, Keterman?
I'm surprised that SpaghettiEverywhere was surprised that we all voted for him. As llama said, those that volunteered could have ulterior motives, and because we don't know anything about what fighting is like, it was best to throw a virtual non-participant into the ring. If I was him, I would agree with that logic and would have no complaints about being the top candidate.
Epignosis wrote:Bitch, my identity is my identity theft protection!
Epignosis wrote:Bitch, my identity is my identity theft protection!
One thing I find worth pointing out...there are four towns. Delaware City, New Castle, Penns Grove, and us, Wilmington. There are ten players in our town, so I would assume there are ten players in the other towns as well. But with 38 total players that's two players short for one town, or one player short for two towns. Or something completely different. I have no theory based around that, just thought it was worth bringing up, and another possible reason why switching towns might get us some helpful answers.bea wrote:Devin the Omniscient wrote:Responding to a couple of people on page 2:
I never said I thought we were all on the same team, only that I believe that I can trust everyone here for the time being. Obviously if my suspicion is correct, a lot of us could be recruited eventually. So I am keeping my distance. Keep in mind that this is far from a typical Mafia game. That being said, this is a typical Sock game
Devin - I agree with you lots. I think at the LEAST until tonight is over, we are all pretty trustworthy. I think it was sorsha? maybe? who said something about seeing a recruiter and a police person in each thread. I think that people *with* roles are spread out among the threads for sure, but yes. I agree - here and now - we are all fairly face value. After tonight though, I don't know. I can't believe that Tyler could recruit to project mayham from *every* thread - but who knows? It's a dice role. You put it best. It's not a typical mafia game, but it is a typical Socky game.
At the moment, I'm firm in believing that most of us are vanilla civs. One or two of us may have a role. Someone *could* be Tyler. The Police/Martha/and Narrator are all aligned. All the civ's have to do is stay alive.
This is the stuff I was afraid of because I too haven't seen the film. It's not a stretch at all to suggest that those rules will directly influence the game, and that final rule is the only argument I've seen yet to stay here rather than move that has swayed me at all.bea wrote:And my thing to sgettie about background knowlege made me go look this up:
“Welcome to Fight Club. The first rule of Fight Club is: you do not talk about Fight Club. The second rule of Fight Club is: you DO NOT talk about Fight Club! Third rule of Fight Club: if someone yells “stop!”, goes limp, or taps out, the fight is over. Fourth rule: only two guys to a fight. Fifth rule: one fight at a time, fellas. Sixth rule: the fights are bare knuckle. No shirt, no shoes, no weapons. Seventh rule: fights will go on as long as they have to. And the eighth and final rule: if this is your first time at Fight Club, you have to fight.”
I think maybe now I see an advantage to staying home? If we move, it might be our first night at Fight Club there. Then it would be two of us that had to fight. Is that what you were thinking llama?
I see how from a quick read he could see it that way, but I don't think it was wise to make such a concrete, unflinching post about how he feels about the situation before a thorough read of the thread. Especially because that was the first declaration of suspicion we've seen in the game, and it was entirely because thellama73 led the vote against him. That's considered an amateur scum move ("OMGUS", or Oh My God You Suck) where I've always played mafia, but no one else has called it out so I assume it is forgiven here.bea wrote:Not defending sgettie any more than I was defending llama - but I can see where he was coming from as well. Especially if he crammed reading on his phone while he's in the middle of no where.
I can see him reading the collecting of votes as a Day 1 everyone took the lame scapegoat and voted the guy who didn't show up as the day 1 lynch. I don't know that sgettie is seeing his votes any differently from what a typical day 1 lynch would be like. Does that make sense?
I'm hoping whoever loses the fight between me and SE doesn't die, but if no nightkills happen then I'm afraid that would happen :/ I suppose we shall see what turn arounds happen. bea wrote:I don't understand your thinking here. How is this any different from leaving? Are we assuming we'll have some sort of home field advantage over a fight we still haven't learned the details of? I'm assuming you're proposing a voting block? Which we would (I hope) have regardless of traveling or not. What am I missing?thellama73 wrote:Isn't it reasonable to assume that other towns face exactly the same problem though? They will reduce their numbers as well, and some of them will doubtless move here.Keterman wrote:So it is the top two candidates that we voted for pitted against each other. Because of that, staying here seems like a bad idea. I imagine we would only lower our numbers without making any progress. Maybe not, but moving feels like much less of a risk at this point.
I propose a Wilmington Alliance, where we stay here and then make the newcomers fight each other when they arrive.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
Epignosis wrote:Bitch, my identity is my identity theft protection!
I don't have it 100% deciphered yet but I have most of it. It's not really to my advantage to share what it says though. Once deciphered its instructions on how to win a prize.bea wrote:also also also - I have little to no idea about this - but that word jumble in our hosts siggie is just begging to be descrambled. Are any of our players good at doing that sort of thing? I will try but I'll likely not get very far.
Your system was the opposite of my system! Amazing!Roxy wrote: I would have voted for llama. I going to vote for the top poster at the time it was llama. My system is out in the open now
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
I thought the same and didn't even notice the stay here option when I voted. I just didnt want to miss another votes since I had just missed the first. Since the question is 'what will you do?' maybe it is an individual move, but that's a lot to coordinate for MP. Oh well, I am moving on most likely. That'll teach me to vote early.bea wrote:Ok llama that makes sense. For some reason I was thinking we stayed or moved as a group.
I'm going to go ahead and vote to stay so that I don't forget to do it later.
Turnip Head wrote: We need to lynch Pennsylvania Bitch.
Epignosis wrote:Bitch, my identity is my identity theft protection!
bea wrote:Hedgy if that's thebcasenyou can always come.back next.time!¹
if they don't serve me Newcastle I most certainly will! *hiccup* 
Turnip Head wrote: We need to lynch Pennsylvania Bitch.
Hedgeowl wrote:I thought the same and didn't even notice the stay here option when I voted. I just didnt want to miss another votes since I had just missed the first. Since the question is 'what will you do?' maybe it is an individual move, but that's a lot to coordinate for MP. Oh well, I am moving on most likely. That'll teach me to vote early.bea wrote:Ok llama that makes sense. For some reason I was thinking we stayed or moved as a group.
I'm going to go ahead and vote to stay so that I don't forget to do it later.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
I do.Keterman wrote:I don't see why that game mechanic would be out of the question.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
They would be granted absolutely autocracy over that town. We don't want that to happen.Sorsha wrote:I wonder what would happen if only one person was left in a location?
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
I was wondering the same thing as Sorsha. Can you elaborate, llama?thellama73 wrote:They would be granted absolutely autocracy over that town. We don't want that to happen.Sorsha wrote:I wonder what would happen if only one person was left in a location?
No, because elaborating on a joke diminishes the impact of its humor.nijuukyugou wrote:I was wondering the same thing as Sorsha. Can you elaborate, llama?thellama73 wrote:They would be granted absolutely autocracy over that town. We don't want that to happen.Sorsha wrote:I wonder what would happen if only one person was left in a location?
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
Hahaha I'm dumb and hungrythellama73 wrote:No, because elaborating on a joke diminishes the impact of its humor.nijuukyugou wrote:I was wondering the same thing as Sorsha. Can you elaborate, llama?thellama73 wrote:They would be granted absolutely autocracy over that town. We don't want that to happen.Sorsha wrote:I wonder what would happen if only one person was left in a location?
Don't feel bad. I get that from everybody.nijuukyugou wrote:Hahaha I'm dumb and hungrythellama73 wrote: No, because elaborating on a joke diminishes the impact of its humor.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
Epignosis wrote:If llama is good, it means we exist in a universe in which multitasking llama can call out the first of two mafia while simultaneously calling out two civilians.
I don't want to live in that universe.
Why aren't you on the poll?thellama73 wrote:Good job, Boogs! Welcome, new people! Don't get comfortable.
Scratch that, I can't read, lol.timmer wrote:Why aren't you on the poll?thellama73 wrote:Good job, Boogs! Welcome, new people! Don't get comfortable.
Over in Penns Grove, we chatted a bit about the fact that it seems to be in everyone's best interested to figure out who Tyler Durden is, since the policemen need to find him to win, and we all win if we survive to the end. If Durden is found early, maybe that handicaps project mayhem etc and helps everyone win.Hedgeowl wrote:
I saw that, but it didnt mean anything to me. So you think other people are in a different hometown?
