Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[TonyStarkPrime]

I mean, the person who should be making an argument for keeping ted would be ted, so...@tedxtr should we kill you today?

I object to this witness being called at this time

[hollowkatt]

I think the Sloonei flip has told me a lot, and not just from sloonei flipping ‘mafia’, but also his role told me a lot.

So, from that flip, I think tutuu is pretty much spewed not mafia from sloonei’s role. Sloonei throws balls at people, and this aligns with what tutuu said back in D2 and was unsure if to hit or not hit the ball. Mafia don’t generally try and kill mafia. @everyone, is there anyone else who had a ball thrown at them? Could help clear some people.

I also think Michelle looks good and probably not mafia. Michelle spent most of the last day suspecting tutuu, even going as far as looking through Sloonei’s ISO. I feel like if you were someone aligned with sloonei who had the TMI on his role, you would know that flip would eventually make tutuu look good because you’d remember trying to previously kill tutuu with a baseball as a partner. Sloonei yeet was also a foregone conclusion for a good chunk of the day so I do not feel it is faked. This read is obviously weaker than the tutuu one above, obviously.

Made was also vocal on Sloonei earlier on, even before the cop when I didn’t really see a case there, so Made goes up a lot in my estimations in terms of being a town read.

I also read sloonei’s ISO just a few hours ago and boy is HK bled to death with green blood. Sloonei wanted to kill HK at every opportunity. So HK = town. Literally read his ISO.

I don’t know where this leaves me with my previous town reads, but I still do firmly believe Syn is still town after the whole radish thing.

aww yeah, spewed so hard
I do like syn for town without spew/actions. I think they've just been town. Made either bus or town, leaning town. Tutuu I guess can be town, fine.

[TonyStarkPrime]

tutuu is tmied town and baseballed town and is just town town town

[Kylemii]

is that joe

[tutuu]

I played baseball n1 yeah and kyle played n2

Confrming that im not forced to quote

I have nothing mechanical to report

[VOTE: tedxtr] aubergine

[Kylemii]

tutuu is purple now

[tutuu]

Who else was purple? 112

Coincidence? I think not

[tutuu]

The last mafia role hides people from the poll

If its not ted then yeah its someone else who does this

[Kylemii]

ted is probably just mafia right

[Kylemii]

what is purple, are you hosting a game? have you become a mod

[Kylemii]

you've absorbed the power stone

[tutuu]

Yep im next racket host, will post sign ups in a day or two!

[Kylemii]

amazing

[Kylemii]

tony has posted Joey P.

[hollowkatt]

tony has posted Joey P.

for a minute I thought that was the character who never talked/squealed then I remembered that was Johnny Tight Lips

[Long Con]

The last mafia role hides people from the poll

If its not ted then yeah its someone else who does this

[Syn]

tony has posted Joey P.

for a minute I thought that was the character who never talked/squealed then I remembered that was Johnny Tight Lips

what's this about tight lips

[Syn]

oh yeah

think it's hilarious i silenced a wolf

in hindsight, goat play, prevented sloonei from town-leading

nobody tell me differently!!

[tutuu]

As funny as it is im actually inclined to agree it ended up being an ... effective play? somehow

Syn took "shut up wolf" to a whole new level

[Kylemii]

joey pp, from boardwalk empire

[Made]

Any way Ted is the lat baddie?

[Made]

Any way Ted is the last baddie?

[hollowkatt]

Any way Ted is the lat baddie?

probably?

[Kylemii]

Any way Ted is the lat baddie?

that would be 5 bad boys right? that seems a little low, less than 20%

[tutuu]

I kinda trust ted to be 3p just coz if he was mafia i think any reasonable person would stop trying to defend themselves

If game doesnt end with his death i have no idea what to do

[tutuu]

I guess if hes 3p and kyle dinged radish could be mafia redirector? But then who hides people from poll. Another 3p? Guess we'll find out

Still dunno made and long con and michelles roles

Dunno long cons track

Id vote lc ig if game doesnt end

[tutuu]

choose a target on every odd night. On the next day they cannot receive votes

N1 michelle n3 long con n5 tutuu

[TonyStarkPrime]

gotta be a town power right

[tutuu]

It could be tbh

[Kylemii]

was thinking about it. if mafia has a redirector then it's technically possible that long con target got fucked with, i doubt tutuu got changed because they would have saved nanook too probably, unless they couldn't for some reason.

[TonyStarkPrime]

gotta be a town power right

EBWOP: You think they're okay?

[Timsup2nothin]

Was Sloonei's outing Simpson quote post his first post of the day?

[Kylemii]

is anyone missing from the poll rn

[tutuu]

gotta be a town power right

EBWOP: You think they're okay?

I think its a pro-scum role but i dunno

[tutuu]

Oh u were trying to quote joe pesci i get it lmao

[TonyStarkPrime]

choose a target on every odd night. On the next day they cannot receive votes

N1 michelle n3 long con n5 tutuu

is there any way around this?

[Made]

Alison is also off the poll

[TonyStarkPrime]

Rules of the Game of Champions

4) Self-voting is not permitted.

[tutuu]

Oh both me and alison? Interesting

[Epignosis]

Please revote.

[tutuu]

lol

[Made]

Oh, uh what kinda power roles even still exist out there for baddies to have. This game might be solved if we have enough confirmed town or ways to confirm town to last till lylo

[TonyStarkPrime]

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A civilian role includes the following text:

You are Town. You win when all threats to Town have been eliminated.

oops

[tutuu]

Oh, uh what kinda power roles even still exist out there for baddies to have. This game might be solved if we have enough confirmed town or ways to confirm town to last till lylo

Poll hider and redirector if ted is 3p and kyle is town (and not 3p), we dont know anything else

[Made]

I'm doing a bit of maths. is HK confirmed town?? I feel like i read that somewhere

[Hyena]

however i am in a chat with someone very cool who loves me a lot

You speaking to the dead?

yes

though idk why hyena picked me for it

maybe they wanted me to feel included

I picked you and Mac because I townread you and because I had paired Mac up with Tim earlier. Thus, if Tim happened to be lying about anything Mac said previous, he'd have an avenue to say something about it to you. I didn't think this would be the case, but eh, I figured it was a good move.

[Hyena]

Anyway, I'll catch up later. Playing games at the moment. <3

[Timsup2nothin]

however i am in a chat with someone very cool who loves me a lot

You speaking to the dead?

yes

though idk why hyena picked me for it

maybe they wanted me to feel included

I picked you and Mac because I townread you and because I had paired Mac up with Tim earlier. Thus, if Tim happened to be lying about anything Mac said previous, he'd have an avenue to say something about it to you. I didn't think this would be the case, but eh, I figured it was a good move.

That is a good move, as I am in fact a known liar and did at one point attribute something to Mac that was actually my idea. I don't remember what, but I did tell him when I did it so that could get spicy!

[Made]

ight,
Here's my solve:
There's 17 players remaining. Right now we have 8 pseudo-confirmed town (including today's cop check). If we mischop everyday until day 12 (and no players die from anything other than chop/NK) , our final group would be 1 confirmed town (likely my cute invulnerable) , 3 unconfirmed players, and Alison.

If we can confirm one more player, outside of who Jack will confirm today, Day 12 is 2 confirmed town, 2 unconfirmed town and Alison can force a town win.
If we can confirm two more players, it's an automatic town win. Lylo would always have a confirmed town majority.

A few vig shots in the pool of non-confirmed players also brings us closer to a forced town win. So yeah, let's turbo this!!! Who in the group of players that we haven't confirmed town yet has been spewed town by Nanook, Cat, Marmot, or Sloonei? If we can find two of them**, we win.

Here's my work (warning it might not make any sense)
Players remaining:17

Spoiler: show

before i go into my bullshit...


okay let's solve!

Players remaining: 17
Alison
Dr Wilgy
Dizzy
Hk
Hyena
Jack
Jpic
Kyle
LC
Made
Radishes
Michelle
syn
ted
tim
tony
tutuu


ok, so confirmed not scum in that group is:
Alison (basically)
Jack
Kyle (basically)
Made (or sub yourself if you're town)
Michelle (if we trust that Sloonei doesn't pitch to his teammate)
Syn
Tutuu
+whoever Jack confirms today

players left over:
Wilgy
Dizzy
HK
Hyena
Jpic
Tim
LC
Radishes
Ted
Tony
minus one, because of whoever Jack's confirming today.

And here's the solve:
key: Dx (mislynch/mafia kill) # of players remaining
D6 Ted/Jack 15
D7 Jpic/Syn 13
D8 Radishes/Tutuu 11
D9 Dizzy/Kyle 9
D10 HK/Michelle 7
D11 Hyena/Made 5

Going into day 12 with 5 players left, our final group would still have 1 confirmed town, 3 unconfirmed players, and Alison
** I don't know how to say this neatly, but we win the game assuming there is a town observer at this point. from the POV of a nonconfirmed player (ie me) the game is solved at 2 more confirmed players. If I some how get confirmed, then from a universal pov, we will still need 2 town more confirmed town to force a win

Another edge case to consider is if we find another 3p in our PoE. If they town side they can force a win similar to Alison in the 1 more confirmed player situation....if they're anti town we kill them as if they were still in PoE and the math doesn't really change i don't think.

[DrWilgy]

ight,
Here's my solve:
There's 17 players remaining. Right now we have 8 pseudo-confirmed town (including today's cop check). If we mischop everyday until day 12 (and no players die from anything other than chop/NK) , our final group would be 1 confirmed town (likely my cute invulnerable) , 3 unconfirmed players, and Alison.

If we can confirm one more player, outside of who Jack will confirm today, Day 12 is 2 confirmed town, 2 unconfirmed town and Alison can force a town win.
If we can confirm two more players, it's an automatic town win. Lylo would always have a confirmed town majority.

A few vig shots in the pool of non-confirmed players also brings us closer to a forced town win. So yeah, let's turbo this!!! Who in the group of players that we haven't confirmed town yet has been spewed town by Nanook, Cat, Marmot, or Sloonei? If we can find two of them**, we win.

Here's my work (warning it might not make any sense)
Players remaining:17

Spoiler: show

before i go into my bullshit...


okay let's solve!

Players remaining: 17
Alison
Dr Wilgy
Dizzy
Hk
Hyena
Jack
Jpic
Kyle
LC
Made
Radishes
Michelle
syn
ted
tim
tony
tutuu


ok, so confirmed not scum in that group is:
Alison (basically)
Jack
Kyle (basically)
Made (or sub yourself if you're town)
Michelle (if we trust that Sloonei doesn't pitch to his teammate)
Syn
Tutuu
+whoever Jack confirms today

players left over:
Wilgy
Dizzy
HK
Hyena
Jpic
Tim
LC
Radishes
Ted
Tony
minus one, because of whoever Jack's confirming today.

And here's the solve:
key: Dx (mislynch/mafia kill) # of players remaining
D6 Ted/Jack 15
D7 Jpic/Syn 13
D8 Radishes/Tutuu 11
D9 Dizzy/Kyle 9
D10 HK/Michelle 7
D11 Hyena/Made 5

Going into day 12 with 5 players left, our final group would still have 1 confirmed town, 3 unconfirmed players, and Alison
** I don't know how to say this neatly, but we win the game assuming there is a town observer at this point. from the POV of a nonconfirmed player (ie me) the game is solved at 2 more confirmed players. If I some how get confirmed, then from a universal pov, we will still need 2 town more confirmed town to force a win

Another edge case to consider is if we find another 3p in our PoE. If they town side they can force a win similar to Alison in the 1 more confirmed player situation....if they're anti town we kill them as if they were still in PoE and the math doesn't really change i don't think.

Made is deepwolf