Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[Syn]

I believe Jack confirmed TSP as town today

[Made]

ight,
Here's my solve:
There's 17 players remaining. Right now we have 8 pseudo-confirmed town (including today's cop check). If we mischop everyday until day 12 (and no players die from anything other than chop/NK) , our final group would be 1 confirmed town (likely my cute invulnerable) , 3 unconfirmed players, and Alison.

If we can confirm one more player, outside of who Jack will confirm today, Day 12 is 2 confirmed town, 2 unconfirmed town and Alison can force a town win.
If we can confirm two more players, it's an automatic town win. Lylo would always have a confirmed town majority.

A few vig shots in the pool of non-confirmed players also brings us closer to a forced town win. So yeah, let's turbo this!!! Who in the group of players that we haven't confirmed town yet has been spewed town by Nanook, Cat, Marmot, or Sloonei? If we can find two of them**, we win.

Here's my work (warning it might not make any sense)
Players remaining:17

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before i go into my bullshit...


okay let's solve!

Players remaining: 17
Alison
Dr Wilgy
Dizzy
Hk
Hyena
Jack
Jpic
Kyle
LC
Made
Radishes
Michelle
syn
ted
tim
tony
tutuu


ok, so confirmed not scum in that group is:
Alison (basically)
Jack
Kyle (basically)
Made (or sub yourself if you're town)
Michelle (if we trust that Sloonei doesn't pitch to his teammate)
Syn
Tutuu
+whoever Jack confirms today

players left over:
Wilgy
Dizzy
HK
Hyena
Jpic
Tim
LC
Radishes
Ted
Tony
minus one, because of whoever Jack's confirming today.

And here's the solve:
key: Dx (mislynch/mafia kill) # of players remaining
D6 Ted/Jack 15
D7 Jpic/Syn 13
D8 Radishes/Tutuu 11
D9 Dizzy/Kyle 9
D10 HK/Michelle 7
D11 Hyena/Made 5

Going into day 12 with 5 players left, our final group would still have 1 confirmed town, 3 unconfirmed players, and Alison
** I don't know how to say this neatly, but we win the game assuming there is a town observer at this point. from the POV of a nonconfirmed player (ie me) the game is solved at 2 more confirmed players. If I some how get confirmed, then from a universal pov, we will still need 2 town more confirmed town to force a win

Another edge case to consider is if we find another 3p in our PoE. If they town side they can force a win similar to Alison in the 1 more confirmed player situation....if they're anti town we kill them as if they were still in PoE and the math doesn't really change i don't think.

Made is deepwolf

[Dyslexicon]

[VOTE: Ted] aubergine

Unless Jack has other news.

[Michelle]

Morning, lazy me says Ted is the safest bet today and being monday i will come back in around 12 hours with more.

@Made i am not mechanically confirmed, idk what are you talking about.
The idea i am town is correct, the mech thingy is not and i don't get it

I forgot who said that me and Wilgy are aligned, we are only if he is also villager. Who knows him better and can read him? From my Pov he looks 85% like a villager.

[Michelle]

I already [VOTE: Ted] aubergine

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Who hates good demons?
Poll runs till Mon Mar 29, 2021 4:00 am
Please note that if you vote, your vote will be visible.

You may select 1 option


Alison
0
No votes
Voters: None
DrWilgy
0
No votes
Voters: None
Dyslexicon
0
No votes
Voters: None
hollowkatt
0
No votes
Voters: None
Hyena
0
No votes
Voters: None
JackofHearts2005
0
No votes
Voters: None
JustPlayingitcool
0
No votes
Voters: None
Kylemii
0
No votes
Voters: None
Long Con
0
No votes
Voters: None
Made
0
No votes
Voters: None
Master Radishes
0
No votes
Voters: None
Michelle
0
No votes
Voters: None
Syn
0
No votes
Voters: None
tedxtr / TurnipHead
6
60%
Voters: Michelle, Dyslexicon, Kylemii, Long Con, tutuu, Made
Timsup2nothin
0
No votes
Voters: None
TonyStarkPrime
0
No votes
Voters: None
Could it be...Satan?
4
40%
Voters: MartinGG99, JaggedJimmyJay, nutella, Epignosis
Total votes: 10

VC

[Master Radishes]

I envy Martin tbh.

[tedxtr]

don’t know how i’m keeping my composure in this game. town’s getting sloppy in complacency.

if you think the last mafia steals people from the poll just have kyle steal one of my abilities at random, cuz i don’t have such a thing.

but i realize most of the votes are gonna be nonsensical at this point in the game

[TonyStarkPrime]

Everything that guy just said is bullshit

[Made]

Morning, lazy me says Ted is the safest bet today and being monday i will come back in around 12 hours with more.

@Made i am not mechanically confirmed, idk what are you talking about.
The idea i am town is correct, the mech thingy is not and i don't get it

I forgot who said that me and Wilgy are aligned, we are only if he is also villager. Who knows him better and can read him? From my Pov he looks 85% like a villager.

My POV is 85% on Wilgy as well. And you’re “confirmed” by the baseball being throw. At you. It’s possible Sloonei was outed by that point and was doing anti spew, but I already town read you so, it’s good enough for me

[Timsup2nothin]

don’t know how i’m keeping my composure in this game. town’s getting sloppy in complacency.

if you think the last mafia steals people from the poll just have kyle steal one of my abilities at random, cuz i don’t have such a thing.

but i realize most of the votes are gonna be nonsensical at this point in the game

I've been saying this for a while. It has not made me popular. I would much rather spike a wolf than you, who are probably exactly the third party you claim to be.

So.

Who's a wolf?

[Syn]

mfw we're spiking a hostile every single phase and there are goobers still going "wow town is just phoning it in"

[Syn]

13812 posts of just pure lazing about and getting tanked by the wolves baby

[Syn]

I asked Mac who the last wolf is and he responded with laughter

i think mac might be the last wolf

[tedxtr]

don’t know how i’m keeping my composure in this game. town’s getting sloppy in complacency.

if you think the last mafia steals people from the poll just have kyle steal one of my abilities at random, cuz i don’t have such a thing.

but i realize most of the votes are gonna be nonsensical at this point in the game

I've been saying this for a while. It has not made me popular. I would much rather spike a wolf than you, who are probably exactly the third party you claim to be.

So.

Who's a wolf?

good job, you know how to discern real claims from fake claims.

and first guess would be wilgy. I didn’t like the way he claimed + I assume at least one of the mafia roles can get themselves “maybe cleared” off of their night action.

just in case kyle isn’t lying about being 3p (i couldn’t check tonight) then it has to be tutuu, don’t think it can be LC

[tedxtr]

I actually don’t know how big the mafia team is rn, assuming 1-2 then it’s probably in the pool of tutuu / wilgy / idk who

[Syn]

I have no objection to turbo chopping the wilgster if you flip civ aligned

[tedxtr]

i would’ve said probably michelle in that pool too but kyle cleared them? or was it not a clear?

dunno, harder to muster up interest in solving when you aren’t actually a villager and everyone votes you just cuz you claimed 3p

[Alison]

Alison selecting out of the agreed pool smh

Oh well, made is probs town anyway

i'm tired of my contractees dying because I need them alive to fulfil my win condition

made claimed to be unkillable at night and consensus town during the day

so I picked made

[tedxtr]

[VOTE: tutuu ] aubergine

[tedxtr]

Alison selecting out of the agreed pool smh

Oh well, made is probs town anyway

i'm tired of my contractees dying because I need them alive to fulfil my win condition

made claimed to be unkillable at night and consensus town during the day

so I picked made

then bring some sense into their heads

maybe i should’ve claimed from the first day like someone made the great comparison (think it was mr)

yes, when you get a wincon of “outlast x” the greatest thing to do is to claim what you are on D1

like cmon

[tedxtr]

i hope wolves win this yo, gl in your journey

[Syn]

[VOTE: ted] aubergine

the amount of salt

[Kylemii]

i would’ve said probably michelle in that pool too but kyle cleared them? or was it not a clear?

dunno, harder to muster up interest in solving when you aren’t actually a villager and everyone votes you just cuz you claimed 3p

cannot clear michelle or or wilgy really.

without knowing what power i steal and with the power being public knowledge the thief power mostly just functions to stress me out.

[tedxtr]

i’m clearly not a mass destruction role, otherwise i just blow up last night, there’s no reason to yeet me here

not like anyone cuuuurrrrs, the moment i claimed my role i was a dead man walking, not sure why i was dumb enough to not lie about it, maybe i’m just that naive and thought villagers are gonna understand, since it made a shit ton of sense fmpov so i thought it’d make sense for them too

oh well

[tedxtr]

i would’ve said probably michelle in that pool too but kyle cleared them? or was it not a clear?

dunno, harder to muster up interest in solving when you aren’t actually a villager and everyone votes you just cuz you claimed 3p

cannot clear michelle or or wilgy really.

without knowing what power i steal and with the power being public knowledge the thief power mostly just functions to stress me out.

then just vote one of them, you already know my claim and you already know i’m not a mass destruction threat too. if we yeet one of then and they’re mafia there’s also a chance that they flip the ship.

you will have me in the back of your pocket if you miss on other people, we have no info on wilgy at all and he’s a very likely mafia fmpov, no reason to go for me rn, just let me achieve my wincon

[Kylemii]

just in case kyle isn’t lying about being 3p (i couldn’t check tonight) then it has to be tutuu, don’t think it can be LC

question w/r/t this, i feel like you've theorized that i was 3p or indy or at least searching for something or someone since like day 2, did you check me to see if i was the space ship you're looking for

[Kylemii]

i think the greatest argument for yeeting someone other than ted today is that it's sexy and exciting to fly oh so very close to the sun like sweet sweet icarus

[Timsup2nothin]

just in case kyle isn’t lying about being 3p (i couldn’t check tonight) then it has to be tutuu, don’t think it can be LC

question w/r/t this, i feel like you've theorized that i was 3p or indy or at least searching for something or someone since like day 2, did you check me to see if i was the space ship you're looking for

[Justplayingitcool]

The last mafia role hides people from the poll

If its not ted then yeah its someone else who does this

I think it’s a town role

[Timsup2nothin]

i think the greatest argument for yeeting someone other than ted today is that it's sexy and exciting to fly oh so very close to the sun like sweet sweet icarus

I think the argument for wolf hunting is that other than Jack handing us one on a plate we haven't hit with a chop since day two so the whole "just chop the 3P and then we'll suddenly have no trouble finding wolves" seems pretty sketchy.

[tedxtr]

just in case kyle isn’t lying about being 3p (i couldn’t check tonight) then it has to be tutuu, don’t think it can be LC

question w/r/t this, i feel like you've theorized that i was 3p or indy or at least searching for something or someone since like day 2, did you check me to see if i was the space ship you're looking for

my abilities are kinda scuffed, they work as if i were a joat

i used up my peek on someone n2 and gotta wait for it to get back in order

and i wasn’t as strong on you d2 like i was d3 or d4 (forgot which one it was), i believe the only info we had on d2 w/r/t you was the posting restriction thing. think you outed more stuff (the “checks” ) d3 and above

[Justplayingitcool]

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

[Kylemii]

*snip*

i think hyena could hypothetically be cleared... sort of. there's no reason the hosts couldn't do it, but setting up live players with dead ones for btsc would be a buckwild power to give to the mafia, to the point that the optimal way to play that would be to just not use it. (standard wifom caveat i guess)

like there's always loopholes but i think at the very least hyena is way way way at the outer edge of the PoE

[Justplayingitcool]

I actually don’t know how big the mafia team is rn, assuming 1-2 then it’s probably in the pool of tutuu / wilgy / idk who

tutuu is spewed town

[Timsup2nothin]

*snip*

i think hyena could hypothetically be cleared... sort of. there's no reason the hosts couldn't do it, but setting up live players with dead ones for btsc would be a buckwild power to give to the mafia, to the point that the optimal way to play that would be to just not use it. (standard wifom caveat i guess)

like there's always loopholes but i think at the very least hyena is way way way at the outer edge of the PoE

Agree.

[Kylemii]

i think the greatest argument for yeeting someone other than ted today is that it's sexy and exciting to fly oh so very close to the sun like sweet sweet icarus

I think the argument for wolf hunting is that other than Jack handing us one on a plate we haven't hit with a chop since day two so the whole "just chop the 3P and then we'll suddenly have no trouble finding wolves" seems pretty sketchy.

maybe if you smoke some weed you'll feel better

[tedxtr]

I actually don’t know how big the mafia team is rn, assuming 1-2 then it’s probably in the pool of tutuu / wilgy / idk who

tutuu is spewed town

if kyle is legit then he either hit a mafia in the lc / me / tutuu pool or he got redirected.

and reading tutuu’s last posts on me (page before this one) it kinda reads like her vote on me is for no reason, since she thinks i’m a 3p and not a mafia given kyle’s check

so then why vote for me over a wolf?

[tedxtr]

why’s tutuu “spewed” though?

[Kylemii]

*snip*

i think hyena could hypothetically be cleared... sort of. there's no reason the hosts couldn't do it, but setting up live players with dead ones for btsc would be a buckwild power to give to the mafia, to the point that the optimal way to play that would be to just not use it. (standard wifom caveat i guess)

like there's always loopholes but i think at the very least hyena is way way way at the outer edge of the PoE

oh and by the same token.... well.... eh.

tim is probably town vig like he said, unless he was like a mafia spare killer and it was a whole elaborate ruse, and that's the reason for his inconsistent reaction to the current town stomp situation

maybe not i guess.

[Justplayingitcool]

I actually don’t know how big the mafia team is rn, assuming 1-2 then it’s probably in the pool of tutuu / wilgy / idk who

tutuu is spewed town

if kyle is legit then he either hit a mafia in the lc / me / tutuu pool or he got redirected.

and reading tutuu’s last posts on me (page before this one) it kinda reads like her vote on me is for no reason, since she thinks i’m a 3p and not a mafia given kyle’s check

so then why vote for me over a wolf?

dunno

But tutuu had the baseball thrown at her and as I said previously, mafia don’t try and kill mafia.

[Timsup2nothin]

i think the greatest argument for yeeting someone other than ted today is that it's sexy and exciting to fly oh so very close to the sun like sweet sweet icarus

I think the argument for wolf hunting is that other than Jack handing us one on a plate we haven't hit with a chop since day two so the whole "just chop the 3P and then we'll suddenly have no trouble finding wolves" seems pretty sketchy.

maybe if you smoke some weed you'll feel better

I don't feel particularly bad about it. It's not like I have been busting my ass this game.

[Made]

@Timsup2nothin do you get any more shots?

[tedxtr]

oh yeah she claimed baseball thrown at her

But then why wouldn’t sloonei target her again if she was actually targeted?

did someone else claim to be thrown a ball after that day?

[Timsup2nothin]

@Timsup2nothin do you get any more shots?

Nope.

[tedxtr]

@Timsup2nothin do you get any more shots?

Nope.

lame

maybe if i get to live we can shoot what probably is a mafia

[Justplayingitcool]

oh yeah she claimed baseball thrown at her

But then why wouldn’t sloonei target her again if she was actually targeted?

did someone else claim to be thrown a ball after that day?

Not that I know of

[Made]

I actually don’t know how big the mafia team is rn, assuming 1-2 then it’s probably in the pool of tutuu / wilgy / idk who

tutuu is spewed town

if kyle is legit then he either hit a mafia in the lc / me / tutuu pool or he got redirected.

and reading tutuu’s last posts on me (page before this one) it kinda reads like her vote on me is for no reason, since she thinks i’m a 3p and not a mafia given kyle’s check

so then why vote for me over a wolf?

dunno

But tutuu had the baseball thrown at her and as I said previously, mafia don’t try and kill mafia.

Tho, if we wanna tinfoil proof this, the earlier the throw the less likely scum threw at scum

[tedxtr]

i really don’t get how you can vote for me rn over wilgy, i swear

here’s what you know thus far :

> i hunt for what is likely a mafia role
> i am not a mass destruction role, since i just blow up last night
> in case i am some mafia role, i am not a threat. i can always be a backup yeet.

[Timsup2nothin]

I actually don’t know how big the mafia team is rn, assuming 1-2 then it’s probably in the pool of tutuu / wilgy / idk who

tutuu is spewed town

if kyle is legit then he either hit a mafia in the lc / me / tutuu pool or he got redirected.

and reading tutuu’s last posts on me (page before this one) it kinda reads like her vote on me is for no reason, since she thinks i’m a 3p and not a mafia given kyle’s check

so then why vote for me over a wolf?

dunno

But tutuu had the baseball thrown at her and as I said previously, mafia don’t try and kill mafia.

Tho, if we wanna tinfoil proof this, the earlier the throw the less likely scum threw at scum

I think Sloonei was riding pretty comfortably. Without the mech hit out of the blue he had no reason to think he was going down any time soon. His spew is probably pretty clean.

[Made]

I’m just waiting to hit arsonist and lose everyone tbh