Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [AMERICA RISES]

[Jackofhearts2005]

i feel like there are a number of people who have been able to weasel out of explaining their reads by just outright ditching the thread for long periods of times, and that makes productive dialogue a lot more difficult than it would be if we had more centralized communication.

You could make this post score an 80000 on the Scoville scale by naming names right here.

I understood this reference.

Spoiler: show

I feel like all I'm doing reading back is going "Sloonei/Alison is a bit more townie here. Bit scummier here." And the later is mostly every accusation being made falling flat so it gets filed under "dishonest/opportunistic." Like nothing has really stuck out to me as scummy in and of itself since Chopchop went fishing for TSP's role.

[Urist]

i'm ok with bo or jack being yeeted but i don't think they're particularly likely to hit enclave.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Lol I didn't know reywas was in the game. That's cool.

[Jackofhearts2005]

i'm ok with bo or jack being yeeted but i don't think they're particularly likely to hit enclave.

peopleseyebrow.gif

Those statements seem to contradict. Do you think we're likely members some lesser scum group or what?

[Urist]

does sloonei usually waste their vote on a vanity wagon as town?

[Urist]

i'm ok with bo or jack being yeeted but i don't think they're particularly likely to hit enclave.

peopleseyebrow.gif

Those statements seem to contradict. Do you think we're likely members some lesser scum group or what?

don't know don't care

[Jackofhearts2005]

i'm ok with bo or jack being yeeted but i don't think they're particularly likely to hit enclave.

peopleseyebrow.gif

Those statements seem to contradict. Do you think we're likely members some lesser scum group or what?

don't know don't care

Who do you think is more likely to be maphier atp?

[falcon45ca]

i'm ok with bo or jack being yeeted but i don't think they're particularly likely to hit enclave.

I'm not sure why you think that...you're implying you have some understanding of what separates Enclave from other factions

[falcon45ca]

@BoKnows why you voting TSP?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Good talk, Urist.

[Gavial]

what the fuck is this TSP chopchop read I'm kinda ???????????????????????????? Right now

Don't like it at all

Can you explain more TSP?

Maybe when I get to a computer. But read the first 20-30 posts in their iso (starting day 1). Tell me that you see something that is not a wolf

idk what this means

Read Chop’s posts and tell me they’re town. It feels like every single one gives off wolf vibes

I see

I was just confused then because I thought you town read him

He is very probably a wolf, yes

In what world does someone voting me TR me?

[Gavial]

Not sure how I feel on Jack.
Not really providing stuff when he should be.
Lacking a bit.

@Jackofhearts2005
Name your top 2 town and why you TR them.

[Gavial]

@BoKnows why you voting TSP?

Maybe they secretly TR me and this is their way of softing it.

[falcon45ca]

@BoKnows why you voting TSP?

Maybe they secretly TR me and this is their way of softing it.

You think BK is TR you?

[Dom]

Catching up between classes

Can't sleep. Midnight mafia.

I assume your asking for my Sloon tread. Looked good early, but I agree with Mac that his LC and Dom reads look TMI'ey.

How can Sloonei have too much information on me and read me as civ and you think I am #1 baddie according to your read list?
Is your ass jealous of the bullshit you're typing?

[Gavial]

@BoKnows why you voting TSP?

Maybe they secretly TR me and this is their way of softing it.

You think BK is TR you?

I mean it would explain them voting the one person that voted me.

[Gavial]

Catching up between classes

Can't sleep. Midnight mafia.

I assume your asking for my Sloon tread. Looked good early, but I agree with Mac that his LC and Dom reads look TMI'ey.

How can Sloonei have too much information on me and read me as civ and you think I am #1 baddie according to your read list?
Is your ass jealous of the bullshit you're typing?

I feel like Bolded could have been phrased better.

[falcon45ca]

Esooa
Daughter
spf
Martin
Alison
ChopChop
Jack
Sloon

Mac
KZA
Dom
Sawyer
Grogu
TSP
falcon
Sd

Nanook
Marmot
Rej
Urist
Wilgy

Poison
Epi
LC

Look at this hot garbage. He's not even voting in his scum list

[Dom]

Catching up between classes

Can't sleep. Midnight mafia.

I assume your asking for my Sloon tread. Looked good early, but I agree with Mac that his LC and Dom reads look TMI'ey.

How can Sloonei have too much information on me and read me as civ and you think I am #1 baddie according to your read list?
Is your ass jealous of the bullshit you're typing?

I feel like Bolded could have been phrased better.

At least I tihnk I'm funny.

[Gavial]

Esooa
Daughter
spf
Martin
Alison
ChopChop
Jack
Sloon

Mac
KZA
Dom
Sawyer
Grogu
TSP
falcon
Sd

Nanook
Marmot
Rej
Urist
Wilgy

Poison
Epi
LC

Look at this hot garbage. He's not even voting in his scum list

I’m 6th on the list and with their vote it might mean they secretly put me a bit higher.

[Gavial]

Maybe Martin went down

[Gavial]

Catching up between classes

Can't sleep. Midnight mafia.

I assume your asking for my Sloon tread. Looked good early, but I agree with Mac that his LC and Dom reads look TMI'ey.

How can Sloonei have too much information on me and read me as civ and you think I am #1 baddie according to your read list?
Is your ass jealous of the bullshit you're typing?

I feel like Bolded could have been phrased better.

At least I tihnk I'm funny.

Depends,
Did you mean to spell “think” wrong?

[Gavial]

i'm ok with bo or jack being yeeted but i don't think they're particularly likely to hit enclave.

peopleseyebrow.gif

Those statements seem to contradict. Do you think we're likely members some lesser scum group or what?

How does this contradict though?
It just means he would be willing to vote you he’s just not overly confident your groupscum.
Is he suppose to vote an imaginary SR instead?

[Gavial]

Good talk, Urist.

Don’t like this.
He thinks he’s in the right zone here.

[Gavial]

Ima like NullScum Jack.

[Gavial]

Since he’s a competing wagon, I’ll join it.

[Gavial]

I like having 2 CW’s tbh.
Means there’s a greater chance there is a scum on one of the competing wagons.
I think it’s Jack but I also haven’t really looked much into Bo and the other guy.
Still would like to have Bo’s exact reason for the Tony vote as the only reason I can see be is his TR on me for a soft defend.

[c4e5g3d5]

Heyo. Been putting more energy into another game,that trend will probably continue. Surprised to only get one ping in so many posts.

Catching up between classes

Can't sleep. Midnight mafia.

I assume your asking for my Sloon tread. Looked good early, but I agree with Mac that his LC and Dom reads look TMI'ey.

How can Sloonei have too much information on me and read me as civ and you think I am #1 baddie according to your read list?
Is your ass jealous of the bullshit you're typing?

I'd explain your fallacy, but instead I'd rather talk about how dead the horse is. I am boned, even in Sloon's most optimistic simulations. You are not trying to scumhunt by burying the burried guy. So what are you trying to do?

[c4e5g3d5]

Anyway, fuck self pres. [VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Bo and Jack will give you more than I would at this rate, as either alignment. Oh and Jack's towny so there's that.

[c4e5g3d5]

Also games with participating players are more fun so there's that.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Not sure how I feel on Jack.
Not really providing stuff when he should be.
Lacking a bit.

@Jackofhearts2005
Name your top 2 town and why you TR them.

SPF for sure. Just feels obviously town in the same way they've felt obviously town when I've played with town SPF before. I don't think I've seen scum SPF before so I could just be wrong but for now, she's at the top of my list.

Falcon is probably my second top town read. Same issue as with SPF, me not knowing his scumgame, but he feels like he feels as a townie, aggressive in a good way.

i'm ok with bo or jack being yeeted but i don't think they're particularly likely to hit enclave.

peopleseyebrow.gif

Those statements seem to contradict. Do you think we're likely members some lesser scum group or what?

How does this contradict though?
It just means he would be willing to vote you he’s just not overly confident your groupscum.
Is he suppose to vote an imaginary SR instead?

He also said he didn't know or care what alignment Bo and I are.

For the record, I don't have a strong opinion about Urist's alignment and the "this seems to contradict" should be interpreted as "can you elaborate?" not "this is a scummy thing to say."

Good talk, Urist.

Don’t like this.
He thinks he’s in the right zone here.

That's a joke. I asked Urist a question and he left without answering.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Ima like NullScum Jack.

Nullscum?

[Dom]

Depends,
Did you mean to spell “think” wrong?

Heyo. Been putting more energy into another game,that trend will probably continue. Surprised to only get one ping in so many posts.

Catching up between classes

Can't sleep. Midnight mafia.

I assume your asking for my Sloon tread. Looked good early, but I agree with Mac that his LC and Dom reads look TMI'ey.

How can Sloonei have too much information on me and read me as civ and you think I am #1 baddie according to your read list?
Is your ass jealous of the bullshit you're typing?

I'd explain your fallacy, but instead I'd rather talk about how dead the horse is. I am boned, even in Sloon's most optimistic simulations. You are not trying to scumhunt by burying the burried guy. So what are you trying to do?

Once again, instead of engaging in any sort of dialogue, this guy just says "Go fuck yourself" in nicer language.
I have posted about boknows, spf, you, esooa, and Long Con, but nice try.
I'm honestly happy with a BK or a C4 lynch.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Heya, Dom.

I know you've already done so (cause you just said you did) but talk to me about both C4 and Bo.

[Dom]

Also-- what's with this fake "I'm dead" shit? He was one vote ahead, with people on throwaway trains.

[c4e5g3d5]

Heyo. Been putting more energy into another game,that trend will probably continue. Surprised to only get one ping in so many posts.

Catching up between classes

Can't sleep. Midnight mafia.

I assume your asking for my Sloon tread. Looked good early, but I agree with Mac that his LC and Dom reads look TMI'ey.

How can Sloonei have too much information on me and read me as civ and you think I am #1 baddie according to your read list?
Is your ass jealous of the bullshit you're typing?

I'd explain your fallacy, but instead I'd rather talk about how dead the horse is. I am boned, even in Sloon's most optimistic simulations. You are not trying to scumhunt by burying the burried guy. So what are you trying to do?

Once again, instead of engaging in any sort of dialogue, this guy just says "Go fuck yourself" in nicer language.
I have posted about boknows, spf, you, esooa, and Long Con, but nice try.
I'm honestly happy with a BK or a C4 lynch.

Yes, you have posted about them. The question is about why you posted about me. Also I know I haven't exactly been a role model player but I'm struggling to see how this post is a "go fuck yourself".

[Jackofhearts2005]

My impression was that he meant in the long run. Like even if he avoids yeet, he'll be yeeted in the future.

Which hasn't been my experience but we can't all be unyeetable.

[c4e5g3d5]

My impression was that he meant in the long run. Like even if he avoids yeet, he'll be yeeted in the future.

Which hasn't been my experience but we can't all be unyeetable.

Yeah basically this.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Btw my thing was that I wasn't gonna vote for anybody (at least not until eod) but I forgot where I was going with the plan so I'm dropping it. I think I was looking for reactions from people but nobody has talked about it so meh.

[Dom]

Heya, Dom.

I know you've already done so (cause you just said you did) but talk to me about both C4 and Bo.

C4:
-My first problem with C4 was that when asked about what he was looking for on Day 1, he responded with "I played lots of games. Many games. Huge. So many games. I look for alignment indicative things" It's vague bullshit that told us nothing. He didn't answer the question. Then Epi asked him a question. He didn't answer it; he just quipped that Epi should read his posts.
-My second problem with C4 is that he came in after reading my posts on him in my catch up and BLEW UP. He pulled a NO U, and said that I was creating "fake reads" in BTSC. He did not engage or answer my questions, he only sought to bury me.
-My third problem is that C4 has answered OTHER players questions very nicely. TSP asked him about his read on chop and he pulled it right up for him instead of yelling GO READ MY POSTS!!!!!
TLDR: He doesn't want to engage with people skeptical of him. He has attempted to bully his way out of critique and intrigue. I do not see a civ motivation here. He wants to blend in, but also not be messed with.

Bo:
I didn't think much of Bo until his BTSC mates probably told him to come to the game ASAP bc people were talking about him. Then his read list was an absolute player salad. I have less substance here.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Heya, Dom.

I know you've already done so (cause you just said you did) but talk to me about both C4 and Bo.

C4:
-My first problem with C4 was that when asked about what he was looking for on Day 1, he responded with "I played lots of games. Many games. Huge. So many games. I look for alignment indicative things" It's vague bullshit that told us nothing. He didn't answer the question. Then Epi asked him a question. He didn't answer it; he just quipped that Epi should read his posts.
-My second problem with C4 is that he came in after reading my posts on him in my catch up and BLEW UP. He pulled a NO U, and said that I was creating "fake reads" in BTSC. He did not engage or answer my questions, he only sought to bury me.
-My third problem is that C4 has answered OTHER players questions very nicely. TSP asked him about his read on chop and he pulled it right up for him instead of yelling GO READ MY POSTS!!!!!
TLDR: He doesn't want to engage with people skeptical of him. He has attempted to bully his way out of critique and intrigue. I do not see a civ motivation here. He wants to blend in, but also not be messed with.

Bo:
I didn't think much of Bo until his BTSC mates probably told him to come to the game ASAP bc people were talking about him. Then his read list was an absolute player salad. I have less substance here.

This doesn't ever happen tho. Like the number of times I hear this theory vs the number of times I've seen it actually happen in wolfchat is like 100 to 1.

Noted on C4.

[DrWilgy]

I've decided to blindly sheep Sloonei.

This is an unexpected turn, Doctor.

y?

u always say im scum

Does he say you're town now?

Why would they?
They say they will sheep them.
They no one sheep a wolf but they can be Null or Town.

You underestimate my power.

[DrWilgy]

Btw my thing was that I wasn't gonna vote for anybody (at least not until eod) but I forgot where I was going with the plan so I'm dropping it. I think I was looking for reactions from people but nobody has talked about it so meh.

GASP! Jack fishing? scum.

[DrWilgy]

Man, I'm low posting d1 and I'm not the auto-yeet?

It's a christmas miracle.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Maybe it's just Wilgy.

[c4e5g3d5]

Ping me if you want my vote. First come first serve.

[Jackofhearts2005]

@Dom

@DrWilgy

Tell me what you think of ChopChop, particularly in regards to my recent interactions with them. Do those look like legit misunderstandings or wolfy pouncing?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Ping me if you want my vote. First come first serve.

Can I make a reservation? I'm still deciding who to vote for.

[Jackofhearts2005]

@Dom

@DrWilgy

Tell me what you think of ChopChop, particularly in regards to my recent interactions with them. Do those look like legit misunderstandings or wolfy pouncing?

Anybody who wants to weigh in on this can. Those were just the players who were recently around.

[c4e5g3d5]

Ping me if you want my vote. First come first serve.

Can I make a reservation? I'm still deciding who to vote for.

Deal.