Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [AMERICA RISES]

[Sloonei]

does sloonei usually waste their vote on a vanity wagon as town?

We have 6 hours to go, Urist.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Talk to me, Sloonei. Are you worthy?

[Sloonei]

Talk to me, Sloonei. Are you worthy?

Of what?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Talk to me, Sloonei. Are you worthy?

Of what?

It's a dumb reference.

Tell me about your reads atm.

[KZA]

[VOTE: BoKnows] aubergine

Cuz 5 4 4

[DaughterOfOmega]

Having no opinion is the best opinion

[Sloonei]

Talk to me, Sloonei. Are you worthy?

Of what?

It's a dumb reference.

Tell me about your reads atm.

In lieu of that, I’m going to take this opportunity to say I feel like no one really knows what is going on this game. There are a lot of blind stabs around the thread. More than usual, at least, as far as I can tell.

[c4e5g3d5]

WAIT there's an opportunity for a three way tie [VOTE: Jack] aubergine

[KZA]

WAIT there's an opportunity for a three way tie [VOTE: Jack] aubergine

This is a relatable play

[Jackofhearts2005]

Let it rand!

I'm Nagito Komaeda and my ultimate luck will not allow me to be chopped.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Talk to me, Sloonei. Are you worthy?

Of what?

It's a dumb reference.

Tell me about your reads atm.

In lieu of that, I’m going to take this opportunity to say I feel like no one really knows what is going on this game. There are a lot of blind stabs around the thread. More than usual, at least, as far as I can tell.

Then take a blind stab.

[Sloonei]

Talk to me, Sloonei. Are you worthy?

Of what?

It's a dumb reference.

Tell me about your reads atm.

In lieu of that, I’m going to take this opportunity to say I feel like no one really knows what is going on this game. There are a lot of blind stabs around the thread. More than usual, at least, as far as I can tell.

Then take a blind stab.

I have given many reads already.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Talk to me, Sloonei. Are you worthy?

Of what?

It's a dumb reference.

Tell me about your reads atm.

In lieu of that, I’m going to take this opportunity to say I feel like no one really knows what is going on this game. There are a lot of blind stabs around the thread. More than usual, at least, as far as I can tell.

Then take a blind stab.

I have given many reads already.

Let's pretend that if I was gonna iso people for their opinions, I'd just do it.

[Jackofhearts2005]

For posterity, I'd vote Bo over Foresight and Foresight over getting yeeted. They're not my top two choices for a yeet.

[Sloonei]

Let's pretend that if I was gonna iso people for their opinions, I'd just do it.

Of the current options, Bo would be getting my vote 99 times out of 100. I have been reading Foresight as town for most of the day, but his most recent behavior feels kind of like a wolf who has gone into self-destruct mode to protect their partners. But I can also still see him as a frustrated civilian in an unfamiliar environment. I get the sense based on some of the things he has done and said that games tend to go differently where he is from than they do here.

I have not seen Bo do a single thing that made me read him as town. I liked Alison's point about his reads list format mirroring somebody else's. That he produced a reads list at all while otherwise appearing totally disengaged does not bode well.

KZA is somebody I think should be getting more scrutiny. He's been almost pathologically stubborn in his mission to avoid giving detailed thoughts on things. Go scan his ISO and look for a thought that requires more than one line of text.

I currently lean town on you. Esooa, Dom, and Alison are comfortable town reads. Other town reads of varying strength include Martin, Epi, Long Con, falcon, and TSP.

Anyone not mentioned is either someone I have no read on, or I have unspecified concerns about, or are SPF.

[Marmot]

Hello game, have you been solved?

[Sloonei]

Hello game, have you been solved?

What is your strategy this game?

[Marmot]

Alright @c4e5g3d5 I've got a response for you.

Pros: I generally keep a level head and calm demeanor, and try to be a pleasant player to play with (unless you're Mac, I might misunderstand you and yell at you )
Cons: I'm not actually any good at mafia.
Gameplan: Skip many of the 2k posts that are to come this Day 1, but still hunt well.
Misc.: I will probably self-vote at some point in this game and also end up in LYLO.

[Marmot]

I skimmed half of Jack's ISO and tone-read him as town. Why does he have 5 votes?

[Urist]

as probably the only person who has read the setup, i feel the need to mention that there is a scum role that allows them to decide ties at deadline.

[Marmot]

Esooa
Daughter
spf
Martin
Alison
ChopChop
Jack
Sloon

Mac
KZA
Dom
Sawyer
Grogu
TSP
falcon
Sd

Nanook
Marmot
Rej
Urist
Wilgy

Poison
Epi
LC

Wait wtf Daughter? That's salady af.

Salady?

As in name salad. You just put the 1-poster as your second top town lolno. [VOTE: Bo] aubergine

Skimming c4's ISO, I like this post and the read around it. Why does c4 have 5 votes?

[Sloonei]

I skimmed half of Jack's ISO and tone-read him as town. Why does he have 5 votes?

We are collectively fumbling around in the dark.

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: kza] aubergine

[Sloonei]

as probably the only person who has read the setup, i feel the need to mention that there is a scum role that allows them to decide ties at deadline.

We have 4 1/2 hours.

[Urist]

as probably the only person who has read the setup, i feel the need to mention that there is a scum role that allows them to decide ties at deadline.

We have 4 1/2 hours.

just saying.

[Marmot]

I skimmed Bo's ISO and there's a lot of beer emojis and a full readlist.

Much of the content there is fluff or wolf-compatible. Particularly offering a readslist in the manner that he did, it looks like an attempt to fit in.

I like his response to spf. I wish there was more clarity on where those reads came from before, but what can you do? I'd still vote for him.

[Urist]

Esooa
Daughter
spf
Martin
Alison
ChopChop
Jack
Sloon

Mac
KZA
Dom
Sawyer
Grogu
TSP
falcon
Sd

Nanook
Marmot
Rej
Urist
Wilgy

Poison
Epi
LC

Wait wtf Daughter? That's salady af.

Salady?

As in name salad. You just put the 1-poster as your second top town lolno. [VOTE: Bo] aubergine

Skimming c4's ISO, I like this post and the read around it. Why does c4 have 5 votes?

did you read the rest of his posts?

[Dom]

Heya, Dom.

I know you've already done so (cause you just said you did) but talk to me about both C4 and Bo.

C4:
-My first problem with C4 was that when asked about what he was looking for on Day 1, he responded with "I played lots of games. Many games. Huge. So many games. I look for alignment indicative things" It's vague bullshit that told us nothing. He didn't answer the question. Then Epi asked him a question. He didn't answer it; he just quipped that Epi should read his posts.
-My second problem with C4 is that he came in after reading my posts on him in my catch up and BLEW UP. He pulled a NO U, and said that I was creating "fake reads" in BTSC. He did not engage or answer my questions, he only sought to bury me.
-My third problem is that C4 has answered OTHER players questions very nicely. TSP asked him about his read on chop and he pulled it right up for him instead of yelling GO READ MY POSTS!!!!!
TLDR: He doesn't want to engage with people skeptical of him. He has attempted to bully his way out of critique and intrigue. I do not see a civ motivation here. He wants to blend in, but also not be messed with.

Bo:
I didn't think much of Bo until his BTSC mates probably told him to come to the game ASAP bc people were talking about him. Then his read list was an absolute player salad. I have less substance here.

This doesn't ever happen tho. Like the number of times I hear this theory vs the number of times I've seen it actually happen in wolfchat is like 100 to 1.

Noted on C4.

I disagree. I remember this happening quite a few times. It's not foolproof, but it's something for Day 1

@Dom

@DrWilgy

Tell me what you think of ChopChop, particularly in regards to my recent interactions with them. Do those look like legit misunderstandings or wolfy pouncing?

I will say I need to reread what you're talking about after school. You might need to remind me, but I'd be happy to do it.
I think ChopChop made a joke about having BTSC or something I didn't like. Again, I'd need to pop into an ISO which I can't right now.

[Sloonei]

as probably the only person who has read the setup, i feel the need to mention that there is a scum role that allows them to decide ties at deadline.

We have 4 1/2 hours.

just saying.

what's your read on kza?

[Sloonei]

I skimmed Bo's ISO and there's a lot of beer emojis and a full readlist.

Much of the content there is fluff or wolf-compatible. Particularly offering a readslist in the manner that he did, it looks like an attempt to fit in.

I like his response to spf. I wish there was more clarity on where those reads came from before, but what can you do? I'd still vote for him.

what's your read on kza?

[Marmot]

Esooa
Daughter
spf
Martin
Alison
ChopChop
Jack
Sloon

Mac
KZA
Dom
Sawyer
Grogu
TSP
falcon
Sd

Nanook
Marmot
Rej
Urist
Wilgy

Poison
Epi
LC

Wait wtf Daughter? That's salady af.

Salady?

As in name salad. You just put the 1-poster as your second top town lolno. [VOTE: Bo] aubergine

Skimming c4's ISO, I like this post and the read around it. Why does c4 have 5 votes?

did you read the rest of his posts?

Nope, should I?

[Marmot]

I skimmed Bo's ISO and there's a lot of beer emojis and a full readlist.

Much of the content there is fluff or wolf-compatible. Particularly offering a readslist in the manner that he did, it looks like an attempt to fit in.

I like his response to spf. I wish there was more clarity on where those reads came from before, but what can you do? I'd still vote for him.

what's your read on kza?

I saw you voted for him, so now time to give him the ol' 2-minute ISO.

[Urist]

as probably the only person who has read the setup, i feel the need to mention that there is a scum role that allows them to decide ties at deadline.

We have 4 1/2 hours.

just saying.

what's your read on kza?

> rand town

[c4e5g3d5]

@Jackofhearts2005 I'm still ready when you are.

[Marmot]

I haven't read falcon's posts yet, but wow falcon seems to be the unanimous early locktown, or at least KZA and BoKnows both bothered to townread him before reading anyone else. Is historical read or game-related?

[Marmot]

@Epignosis complains in another game that Made has a name that is a common word, thus making it impossible to search his name effectively.

Epignosis than decides to post everything in images, thus making it impossible to search his posts effectively.

[Marmot]

hot take: KZA is Epi bait and this read from Epi is >rand town for Epi and conveys nothing about KZA

pretty good take since I was Epi bait last game too

I think he raises a point worth addressing RE: your response to my spf suspicion.

yeah so I thought your case was dumb but I realized others might not and it would be worth hearing SPF's response instead of continuing to pee on your shoes

that's why the shift

Why did you vote for me?

cuz I did

I'm getting "I like the cut of your jib" vibes here.

[Sloonei]

as probably the only person who has read the setup, i feel the need to mention that there is a scum role that allows them to decide ties at deadline.

We have 4 1/2 hours.

just saying.

what's your read on kza?

> rand town

Why?

also: why has this become the preferred mode of expressing reads? why is ">/< rand x" preferable to simply saying "town" or "mafia" these days? jargon is dumb and anyone who uses it should be ashamed. Get off my lawn, and while we're at it let's get rid of all these damn clouds.

[Urist]

Esooa
Daughter
spf
Martin
Alison
ChopChop
Jack
Sloon

Mac
KZA
Dom
Sawyer
Grogu
TSP
falcon
Sd

Nanook
Marmot
Rej
Urist
Wilgy

Poison
Epi
LC

Wait wtf Daughter? That's salady af.

Salady?

As in name salad. You just put the 1-poster as your second top town lolno. [VOTE: Bo] aubergine

Skimming c4's ISO, I like this post and the read around it. Why does c4 have 5 votes?

did you read the rest of his posts?

Nope, should I?

yes.
watch how his tone changes throughout the game. i don't feel that it's a natural progression, especially his interactions with alison and dom in response to their suspicion of him feel unnaturally indignant with the swearing and whatnot. and then changing to this defeatist "oh i should replace out for the good of the town" attitude recently when he's not even halfway to majority. This is a guy with a decent amount of mafia experience btw.
dom and alison both make good points against him tho so you should read those as well.

[Urist]

as probably the only person who has read the setup, i feel the need to mention that there is a scum role that allows them to decide ties at deadline.

We have 4 1/2 hours.

just saying.

what's your read on kza?

> rand town

Why?

also: why has this become the preferred mode of expressing reads? why is ">/< rand x" preferable to simply saying "town" or "mafia" these days? jargon is dumb and anyone who uses it should be ashamed. Get off my lawn, and while we're at it let's get rid of all these damn clouds.

kza said something at some point that i thought was more likely to come from town. enough to make me not interested in voting there d1.
i'm not at all confident in my read, hence "> rand".

[Marmot]

If you see me write the word oewjMiovadAnvRbreigMnskdvOnbjsTbjdfsd with a player's name mixed in, it's my new method for sharing townreads.

[Urist]

as probably the only person who has read the setup, i feel the need to mention that there is a scum role that allows them to decide ties at deadline.

We have 4 1/2 hours.

just saying.

what's your read on kza?

> rand town

Why?

also: why has this become the preferred mode of expressing reads? why is ">/< rand x" preferable to simply saying "town" or "mafia" these days? jargon is dumb and anyone who uses it should be ashamed. Get off my lawn, and while we're at it let's get rid of all these damn clouds.

kza said something at some point that i thought was more likely to come from town. enough to make me not interested in voting there d1.
i'm not at all confident in my read, hence "> rand".

i realize this is equivalent to saying "bc i said so" but i don't really have a better answer right now sorry

[Marmot]

as probably the only person who has read the setup, i feel the need to mention that there is a scum role that allows them to decide ties at deadline.

We have 4 1/2 hours.

just saying.

what's your read on kza?

> rand town

Why?

also: why has this become the preferred mode of expressing reads? why is ">/< rand x" preferable to simply saying "town" or "mafia" these days? jargon is dumb and anyone who uses it should be ashamed. Get off my lawn, and while we're at it let's get rid of all these damn clouds.

kza said something at some point that i thought was more likely to come from town. enough to make me not interested in voting there d1.
i'm not at all confident in my read, hence "> rand".

Was it after the time you stated (presumably to him) that scum chat is filled anime gifs?

[Sloonei]

as probably the only person who has read the setup, i feel the need to mention that there is a scum role that allows them to decide ties at deadline.

We have 4 1/2 hours.

just saying.

what's your read on kza?

> rand town

Why?

also: why has this become the preferred mode of expressing reads? why is ">/< rand x" preferable to simply saying "town" or "mafia" these days? jargon is dumb and anyone who uses it should be ashamed. Get off my lawn, and while we're at it let's get rid of all these damn clouds.

kza said something at some point that i thought was more likely to come from town. enough to make me not interested in voting there d1.
i'm not at all confident in my read, hence "> rand".

which thing?

[Marmot]

Wait wtf Daughter? That's salady af.

Salady?

As in name salad. You just put the 1-poster as your second top town lolno. [VOTE: Bo] aubergine

Skimming c4's ISO, I like this post and the read around it. Why does c4 have 5 votes?

did you read the rest of his posts?

Nope, should I?

yes.
watch how his tone changes throughout the game. i don't feel that it's a natural progression, especially his interactions with alison and dom in response to their suspicion of him feel unnaturally indignant with the swearing and whatnot. and then changing to this defeatist "oh i should replace out for the good of the town" attitude recently when he's not even halfway to majority. This is a guy with a decent amount of mafia experience btw.
dom and alison both make good points against him tho so you should read those as well.

That's a lot of work, I'll see what I can do.

I should start taking a drink every time I open up someone's iso.

[c4e5g3d5]

Urist's and KZA's attacks are real. LC's and Alison's are not. Apparently everyone familiar with Dom's meta says this is NAI for him so uh... cool?

[Sloonei]

Urist's and KZA's attacks are real. LC's and Alison's are not. Apparently everyone familiar with Dom's meta says this is NAI for him so uh... cool?

Is there anyone we're not talking about as much as we should be?

[c4e5g3d5]

Urist's and KZA's attacks are real. LC's and Alison's are not. Apparently everyone familiar with Dom's meta says this is NAI for him so uh... cool?

Is there anyone we're not talking about as much as we should be?

Virtually everyone, because they've barely shown up. Slanker hunts suck but this thread might need some.

[Sloonei]

Urist's and KZA's attacks are real. LC's and Alison's are not. Apparently everyone familiar with Dom's meta says this is NAI for him so uh... cool?

Is there anyone we're not talking about as much as we should be?

Virtually everyone, because they've barely shown up. Slanker hunts suck but this thread might need some.

Which names do you include in this list, and which ones intrigue you the most?

[c4e5g3d5]

Urist's and KZA's attacks are real. LC's and Alison's are not. Apparently everyone familiar with Dom's meta says this is NAI for him so uh... cool?

Is there anyone we're not talking about as much as we should be?

Virtually everyone, because they've barely shown up. Slanker hunts suck but this thread might need some.

Which names do you include in this list, and which ones intrigue you the most?

Daughter, Wilgy, Marmot, Nook, Poison, Rej, Sawyer, Sd

Disclaimer: haven't read shit in a while