Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[Kylemii]

question:

as a devils advocate real quick...

tutuu's role is also provable. do we think deciding ties would be a likely town power? mafia power? or neither?

[Michelle]

LC has mech confirmation and the dunking of Ted to make up for not submitting night actions

Wilgy not submitting when his survival literally hinges on using his ability is something else

Villagers can make mistake.
Mafia can make mistake.
we are humans

[Master Radishes]

^

I am so lost, can someone catch me up. Why are we voting 112 now?

THIS IS A FUCKING LOST WOLF SOFT OR MY NAME ISNT TUTUU

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

I SWEAR TO GOD THIS IS A LOST WOLF SOFT CLAIM

[Michelle]

question:

as a devils advocate real quick...

tutuu's role is also provable. do we think deciding ties would be a likely town power? mafia power? or neither?

Is NAI i think.

[Hyena]

Previous wagon reads:

Spoiler: show

Confirmed Town
Townreads
Don't care/Null/2 Bored 2 Read/I forgot
Scumreads
Confirmed Scum
3P

EOD1 Wagons
Cat(10): Nute, Nanook, Tutuu, Made, Ted, Falcon, Mac, Tim, Dizzy, Marmot
Falcon(7): Thunal/HK, Cat, Martin, Long Con, Wilgy, JPIC, Radish
Thunal(3): Dya, TSP, Michelle
Hyena(2): Sloonei, Kylemii
Nutella(2): Syn, Jack
Marmot(1): 112
Ted(1): Hyena

EOD2 Wagons
Marmot(10): Sloonei, Mac, Made, Nute, Tim, Radish, Martin, JPIC, Hyena, Syn
Tim(3): Marmot, Jack, Tutuu
Martin(3): HK (replaced Thunal), Ted, Nanook
Nanook(2): LC, Michelle
112(2): TSP, Kyle
Dizzy(2): 112, Falcon
No Vote(2): Alison, Dizzy

EOD3 Wagons
Jack(7): JPIC, Radish, Tutuu, 112, Nanook, Nute, LC
112(4): Made, Hyena, HK (replaced Thunal), Jack
Wilgy(3): Ted, Syn, Dizzy
Tim(2): Kylemii, Michelle
Martin(2): Falcon, Tim
Falcon(1): Martin
Nanook(1): TSP
Sloonei(1): Wilgy
HK (replaced Thunal)(1): Sloonei

Change Log:
- Moved TSP to Confirmed Town
- Moved Ted to Confirmed Scum
- Moved Dizzy to Null (was previously scumreading them)
- Moved Kyle to Townreads

Confirmed Town
Townreads
Don't care/Null/2 Bored 2 Read/I forgot
Scumreads
Confirmed Scum
3P

EOD1 Wagons
Cat(10): Nute, Nanook, Tutuu, Made, Ted, Falcon, Mac, Tim, Dizzy, Marmot
Falcon(7): Thunal/HK, Cat, Martin, Long Con, Wilgy, JPIC, Radish
Thunal(3): Dya, TSP, Michelle
Hyena(2): Sloonei, Kylemii
Nutella(2): Syn, Jack
Marmot(1): 112
Ted(1): Hyena

EOD2 Wagons
Marmot(10): Sloonei, Mac, Made, Nute, Tim, Radish, Martin, JPIC, Hyena, Syn
Tim(3): Marmot, Jack, Tutuu
Martin(3): HK (replaced Thunal), Ted, Nanook
Nanook(2): LC, Michelle
112(2): TSP, Kyle
Dizzy(2): 112, Falcon
No Vote(2): Alison, Dizzy

EOD3 Wagons
Jack(7): JPIC, Radish, Tutuu, 112, Nanook, Nute, LC
112(4): Made, Hyena, HK (replaced Thunal), Jack
Wilgy(3): Ted, Syn, Dizzy
Tim(2): Kylemii, Michelle
Martin(2): Falcon, Tim
Falcon(1): Martin
Nanook(1): TSP
Sloonei(1): Wilgy
HK (replaced Thunal)(1): Sloonei

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That leaves only Wilgy and Tutuu as scumreads for me. I'm not convinced Tutuu is scum though? And yesterday when I found interactions between Wilgy and Sloonei, I thought Wilgy was actually more towny. I need to re-evaluate more.

[Timsup2nothin]

maybe they're all lost wolves lel

this was a funny line

maybe there's something to it though

[Master Radishes]

question:

as a devils advocate real quick...

tutuu's role is also provable. do we think deciding ties would be a likely town power? mafia power? or neither?

Is NAI i think.

Uh, Michelle are you feeling okay?

This was a golden opportunity to throw dirt on Tutuu for having a scumsided role...and you didn't take the opportunity!

[Kylemii]

has there ever been a mafia role that controls ties

[Master Radishes]

@Hyena

I've been copped by Jack and am town.

Tutuu has - for a long time now - been parity copped by Kyle and is town.

[Michelle]

What do you think about the wagonomics idea i posted today?

About the wagons on D1?

If it helps you, keep doing it. But wagonomics are impossible to decipher on D1 in a 27-person game, in my opinion. Too many WIFOM possibilities about what scum would or would not be doing.


One conclusion I can draw from looking at your posts is just that it matches what I've said before: there was no big 'wolf plan' from the wolf team; instead, they all were playing individual, stay-under-the-radar games. They were each just playing to keep their head down and survive for a few rounds. The only one who made any sort of manipulative push was Ted, and not until he was outed in D6/D7. Your vote counts reflect that, as they are very spread out across different wagons in D1.

But I don't think this observation helps us solve anything right now.

Makes sense, ty

[Hyena]

@Hyena

I've been copped by Jack and am town.

Tutuu has - for a long time now - been parity copped by Kyle and is town.

Okay, I thought there was a reason why Tutuu was town -- I think I had just forgotten to update my wagon reads to reflect it when it was first claimed. Also, I'll move you to townreads then in the next one I post.

[Michelle]

question:

as a devils advocate real quick...

tutuu's role is also provable. do we think deciding ties would be a likely town power? mafia power? or neither?

Is NAI i think.

Uh, Michelle are you feeling okay?

This was a golden opportunity to throw dirt on Tutuu for having a scumsided role...and you didn't take the opportunity!

I am not trolling smh

[Timsup2nothin]

Wilgy, point out mafia if it’s not you.

Based on events yesterday, I still have a sinking feeling when it comes to HK, especially in terms of people who actively pushed for me over scum.

I'm not sure if it's just frustration, but I'm also ready to yeet MR and Syn.

MR's action towards me yesterday that added chaos to the thread is still odd. MR, did you target anyone last night and did they confirm?

Sloonei was after HK a lot. Seems very not teamed imo. Do you think it’s different?

MR green checked.

Syn, no mech, but started the Marmot wagon. Doubt he’s scum, peeersonally

If Syn is a wolf his entire plan has been bus early bus often ride cred to F3. That's like a one in a million moon shot especially with all the mechanical fuckery abounding.

What if he's a lost woof?

[Hyena]

Oof. Gotta go eat dinner.

Gonna check why Wilgy was voting for Falcon at EoD1. Right now, that's the only thing that could lead me to changing my mind about Wilgy being town and re-affirming my initial scumread on him? Otherwise, take a look at the argument I made yesterday about Wilgy being v/w with Sloonei.

[Michelle]

EOD2 Wagons
Marmot(10): Sloonei, Mac, Made, Nute, Tim, Radish, Martin, JPIC, Hyena, Syn

You want to tell me only Sloonei bussed Marmot? This is interesting.

[Made]

Why isn’t it Jpic again?

[Master Radishes]

EOD2 Wagons
Marmot(10): Sloonei, Mac, Made, Nute, Tim, Radish, Martin, JPIC, Hyena, Syn

You want to tell me only Sloonei bussed Marmot? This is interesting.

I was just looking at that too.

It was a flash wagon. I think, from memory, about 40ish minutes before EoD?

So it should be pretty pure I think.

[Syn]

Wilgy, point out mafia if it’s not you.

Based on events yesterday, I still have a sinking feeling when it comes to HK, especially in terms of people who actively pushed for me over scum.

I'm not sure if it's just frustration, but I'm also ready to yeet MR and Syn.

MR's action towards me yesterday that added chaos to the thread is still odd. MR, did you target anyone last night and did they confirm?

Sloonei was after HK a lot. Seems very not teamed imo. Do you think it’s different?

MR green checked.

Syn, no mech, but started the Marmot wagon. Doubt he’s scum, peeersonally

If Syn is a wolf his entire plan has been bus early bus often ride cred to F3. That's like a one in a million moon shot especially with all the mechanical fuckery abounding.

What if he's a lost woof?

man i wish i were a wolf and being copped

[Syn]

Why isn’t it Jpic again?

he's sexy

[Master Radishes]

Why isn’t it Jpic again?

Because it isn't. He's been the towniest sonuvabitch in this entire game. If you really need me to type out why, I will I guess, but I've not had a shred of doubt about him since, like, D2.

[Syn]

was casino used for the day kills because of the movie or because of the name

cuz we got gamblers y'know

[Michelle]

Can someone put together the flipped roles, the claims and the night actions?

[Master Radishes]

Can someone put together the flipped roles, the claims and the night actions?

I was updating Tutuu's list during the Night, then when I got Joe Pesci'd I couldn't post it and never finished.

So...maybe I will.

[Syn]

Can someone put together the flipped roles, the claims and the night actions?

do you want a massage as well

[Michelle]

EOD2 Wagons
Marmot(10): Sloonei, Mac, Made, Nute, Tim, Radish, Martin, JPIC, Hyena, Syn

You want to tell me only Sloonei bussed Marmot? This is interesting.

I was just looking at that too.

It was a flash wagon. I think, from memory, about 40ish minutes before EoD?

So it should be pretty pure I think.

Meaning it would be interesting to check the previous VCs and the dynamics
I don't have time now, i have to sleep..

[Timsup2nothin]

Can someone put together the flipped roles, the claims and the night actions?

do you want a massage as well

I do.

[Master Radishes]

EOD2 Wagons
Marmot(10): Sloonei, Mac, Made, Nute, Tim, Radish, Martin, JPIC, Hyena, Syn

You want to tell me only Sloonei bussed Marmot? This is interesting.

I was just looking at that too.

It was a flash wagon. I think, from memory, about 40ish minutes before EoD?

So it should be pretty pure I think.

Meaning it would be interesting to check the previous VCs and the dynamics
I don't have time now, i have to sleep..

Yes, true.

I think the wagons were Tim vs...Martin?

[Michelle]

Can someone put together the flipped roles, the claims and the night actions?

do you want a massage as well

No but a cup of chocolate ice cream would be nice ^^

[Michelle]

EOD2 Wagons
Marmot(10): Sloonei, Mac, Made, Nute, Tim, Radish, Martin, JPIC, Hyena, Syn

You want to tell me only Sloonei bussed Marmot? This is interesting.

I was just looking at that too.

It was a flash wagon. I think, from memory, about 40ish minutes before EoD?

So it should be pretty pure I think.

Meaning it would be interesting to check the previous VCs and the dynamics
I don't have time now, i have to sleep..

Yes, true.

I think the wagons were Tim vs...Martin?

:Blink: Martin flipped villager, i wonder how voted the flipped wolves in these wagons

[hollowkatt]

confident town: - ignoring mechanics these people are playing townie games
tim
syn
dizzy
hyena
jpic
kyle
LC
HK

not confident town: - people in this bucket are mechanically likely to be town, but their play isn't filling me with confidence.
MR
Michelle
tutuu
made

not town: - obvs bucket is obvs.
alison
wiggly

Explain your reads for your not confident town pls
You can start with me, because i happen to have TMI on the slot

nobody in the second bucket reads as town to me. The reason they're not in the "not town" bucket is because I'm told they're town for some reason or another.
Basically, I don't like your tunnel on tutuu, I think it's anti-town and I worry you're missing bigger picture things b/c of your focus.
Tutuu is abrasive, intransigent, and playing difficult on purpose. she's also apparently mech town.
MR I've already explained, and Made my understanding is they've been mechanically likely town, but their play, especially over the last couple days, ain't good. And his POE is ugh bad.

This means you cannot read me in this game?

yeah, I'm struggling to read you. Like most of the time I want to read you town, but then there are flashes where I have concerns.

[Made]

It was Tim for sure, in a case backed by Nutella w/ pushback from Tutuu. At least that’s what I remember off the top... maybe pushback from Wilgy too actually??? Imma check

[Michelle]

Can someone put together the flipped roles, the claims and the night actions?

I was updating Tutuu's list during the Night, then when I got Joe Pesci'd I couldn't post it and never finished.

So...maybe I will.

You deserve a prize, only for you ^^

Spoiler: show

[Made]

It was Tim for sure, in a case backed by Nutella w/ pushback from Tutuu. At least that’s what I remember off the top... maybe pushback from Wilgy too actually??? Imma check

Ignore that, to rephrase more accurately, The wagon was Tim, I lead it using Nutella’s clout. When Syn wagoned marmot, Nutella bailed and Tutuu, Tim, and I all sat out the wagon till last second.

I’m gonna double check Wilgy stuff there cuz I remember it catching my attention

[Michelle]

Spoiler: show

confident town: - ignoring mechanics these people are playing townie games
tim
syn
dizzy
hyena
jpic
kyle
LC
HK

not confident town: - people in this bucket are mechanically likely to be town, but their play isn't filling me with confidence.
MR
Michelle
tutuu
made

not town: - obvs bucket is obvs.
alison
wiggly

Explain your reads for your not confident town pls
You can start with me, because i happen to have TMI on the slot

nobody in the second bucket reads as town to me. The reason they're not in the "not town" bucket is because I'm told they're town for some reason or another.
Basically, I don't like your tunnel on tutuu, I think it's anti-town and I worry you're missing bigger picture things b/c of your focus.
Tutuu is abrasive, intransigent, and playing difficult on purpose. she's also apparently mech town.
MR I've already explained, and Made my understanding is they've been mechanically likely town, but their play, especially over the last couple days, ain't good. And his POE is ugh bad.

This means you cannot read me in this game?

yeah, I'm struggling to read you. Like most of the time I want to read you town, but then there are flashes where I have concerns.

Are you concerned enough to try and solve my slot?
I don't see much curiosity from you

[Master Radishes]

Spoiler: show

==MECH MASTER POST VERSION 4==

DEAD:
cat - yeeted d1 - post silencer. put in contact with jackofhearts during d2 by hyena's communicator role

dyachei - killed n1 - vengeful. attempted to be put in contact with (nutella?) during d3 by hyena's role, allegedly they were afk

marmot - yeeted d2 - tetris blockhead - long con claims to have played tetris on d2 so allegedly marmot visited LC n1

mac - killed n2 - neighbourizer - targeted nutella at (some point?); nutella claims to have had BTSC with mac during d2 and n3; i think he was 1-shot. put in contact with timsup2nothing during d4 by hyena's role

falcon - killed n3 - negative utility umm vanilla town - presumably dead because ran out of spiders

nanook - killed n3 - mafia goon with no abilities. shot by kyle n3 using tim's vig shot

nutella – killed n3 - swapped with jack by her own ability. was in neighbourhood with mac.

112 – killed d4 – could direct people’s votes

Sloonei – killed d5 – threw baseballs at targets; certain combinations of balls/strikes would kill the target or himself – tutuu claimed to be targeted d2, and Kyle claimed to be targeted d3

MartinGG99 – killed n5 – jailkeeper – n1 falcon. n2 JPIC. n3 nutella. n4 Ted. 1/2 of his action on nutella failed

Tedxtr – killed d6 – negated a person’s vote the next day – tracked targeted Martin, Michelle, and himself during n5 (he had a one shot bus driver from Alison, and Martin was the n5 death – currently it is unclear who he targeted with what)

JackofHearts2005 – killed d7 - cop who forced simpsons or pesci quotes – outed sloonei, confirmed TSP and MR

TonyStarkPrime – killed d7 - nurse – targets were mac, skip skip, jack, skip jack

LIVING:
Alison - claims 3p gambit demon. chooses a target at day, they converse during night and accept or reject, at the end of the following day the deal is sealed and on the following night target can use action.
d1 long con tracker effective as of n2
d2 kyle steal-power-for-1-night-of-person-u-voted effective as of n3 (so d4)
d3 falcon protective effective as of n4
d4 ted bus driver
d5 made (offer unknown?)
d6 role stolen and offered to herself by kyle’s actions
she redirects all night actions and votes that were supposed to land on her to her target instead if they accept the deal.

DrWilgy – can offer role cop or btsc to a target – took no action n1-n4; n5 action redirected on himself via Kyle and he became role cop for the next night
On d6 he remained role cop, presumably due to being targeted by MR – he also was able to role cop Michelle and was given what we think was Dizzy’s role instead
On d7 claimed to forget to submit actions on n6

Dyslexicon – ‘superdoc’ who could protect both himself and their target (as per Dr Wilgy’s wording) – claims to have protected nutella during n3 and to know that his action was successful – was able to verify Martin’s claim and was alerted about this in some way

Hyena - a role that lets a dead person be in BTSC with living person. n1 – cat with jack (confirmed by jack). n2 – dyachei with Nutella. n3 – mac with tim (confirmed by tim). tracked by long con during n3 and seen visiting tim and mac. n4 – nutella with long con. n5 – mac with syn.

JustPlayingitcool – can become double voter or lose vote based on betting how many votes lead wagon receives - received an Elton John song N2

Kylemii – had four tasks to complete, and as part of that submits a name each night and is dinged when he has submitted both a town and mafia name (not notified about 3Ps and roleblocks) – got dinged after n4 (now confirmed to be due to ted) which almost certainly clears long con (n2) and tutuu (n3). Falcon was n1.
Can also steal the power of whoever he’s voting for at EoD and direct it against someone, but isn’t told what the power is. n1…
Also used alison's power steal to steal tim's shot on n3 and use it to shoot nanook. played baseball on day 3 and hit the ball

Long Con - claims to have played tetris on d2. soft cleared by kyle's mech info. n2 forgot to submit track and it was stolen by marmot anyway. n3 tracked hyena and saw him visiting mac and tim. n4 not sure? n5 saw Ted visiting Martin

Made – claims to have earned invulnerability somehow (can’t be chopped)

Master Radishes – claims he can make a person self-target. also won a roleblock by syn's tetris, used on Tim n6.
n1 - nanook to presumably no effect. n2 - 112 to some effect as per 112. n3 - hollowkatt to no effect according to hkat. n4 – Ted – effect unknown (it coincided with Martin’s jailkeep). n5 – DrWilgy – seems to have made Wilgy stay role cop but not stopped his check on Michelle. n6 - DrWilgy again, no effect
Greenchecked by Jack

Syn - backup of the yeet. n1 uset cat's silencer to silence sloonei. n2 used marmot's tetris to play vs MR, scored 0 on purpose. n3 used jack's role on i think nanook? n4 ? n5 ?

hollowkatt - claims a passive role that has self-defensive properties and that can't be disrupted. MR claims to have disrupted his target on n3. hollowkatt claims that he received no notification.

Timsup2nothin - n3 vig. shot at tutuu on n3 but failed due to kyle stealing it. n6 shot at MR but was blocked by MR’s roleblock (won via Tetris).

tutuu – no info. allegedly town by kyle's mech info claim. played baseball on day 2 and hit the ball

Not a final version. Someone help me out with:

*Kyle's votes/steals
*Syn's actions N4/N5/N6
*Updates e.g. what Tutuu claimed (I got a few but forget some)
*Anything else I missed

[hollowkatt]

Are mountainous games across the board disliked?

I like D6 the most, but second most preferred is mountainous. NOT Marson, pure mountainous

[Made]

It was Tim for sure, in a case backed by Nutella w/ pushback from Tutuu. At least that’s what I remember off the top... maybe pushback from Wilgy too actually??? Imma check

Ignore that, to rephrase more accurately, The wagon was Tim, I lead it using Nutella’s clout. When Syn wagoned marmot, Nutella bailed and Tutuu, Tim, and I all sat out the wagon till last second.

I’m gonna double check Wilgy stuff there cuz I remember it catching my attention

Double checked, Wilgy was afk D2 cuz of shit that was happening in Texas. Prob not much we can figure out based on his position there tbh, especially with such a fast flash wagon

[Master Radishes]

@Michelle see my above post for rough draft of claims and everything.

[hollowkatt]

I'll say it again generally to the thread,

As the person currently most pushing Wilgy, I'm not saying it's a slam dunk case.

But who, if not him? We have really good reasons for not scumreading so many other people.

If I were going to tinfoil anyone it's Tim, for reasons. Made seems possible for a hit.
Basically there's a shitload of cleared people and vv few non-cleared and like we could just chop through them.

[Justplayingitcool]

Why isn’t it Jpic again?

he's sexy

Bonk

[Justplayingitcool]

Why isn’t it Jpic again?

[Syn]

Spoiler: show

==MECH MASTER POST VERSION 4==

DEAD:
cat - yeeted d1 - post silencer. put in contact with jackofhearts during d2 by hyena's communicator role

dyachei - killed n1 - vengeful. attempted to be put in contact with (nutella?) during d3 by hyena's role, allegedly they were afk

marmot - yeeted d2 - tetris blockhead - long con claims to have played tetris on d2 so allegedly marmot visited LC n1

mac - killed n2 - neighbourizer - targeted nutella at (some point?); nutella claims to have had BTSC with mac during d2 and n3; i think he was 1-shot. put in contact with timsup2nothing during d4 by hyena's role

falcon - killed n3 - negative utility umm vanilla town - presumably dead because ran out of spiders

nanook - killed n3 - mafia goon with no abilities. shot by kyle n3 using tim's vig shot

nutella – killed n3 - swapped with jack by her own ability. was in neighbourhood with mac.

112 – killed d4 – could direct people’s votes

Sloonei – killed d5 – threw baseballs at targets; certain combinations of balls/strikes would kill the target or himself – tutuu claimed to be targeted d2, and Kyle claimed to be targeted d3

MartinGG99 – killed n5 – jailkeeper – n1 falcon. n2 JPIC. n3 nutella. n4 Ted. 1/2 of his action on nutella failed

Tedxtr – killed d6 – negated a person’s vote the next day – tracked targeted Martin, Michelle, and himself during n5 (he had a one shot bus driver from Alison, and Martin was the n5 death – currently it is unclear who he targeted with what)

JackofHearts2005 – killed d7 - cop who forced simpsons or pesci quotes – outed sloonei, confirmed TSP and MR

TonyStarkPrime – killed d7 - nurse – targets were mac, skip skip, jack, skip jack

LIVING:
Alison - claims 3p gambit demon. chooses a target at day, they converse during night and accept or reject, at the end of the following day the deal is sealed and on the following night target can use action.
d1 long con tracker effective as of n2
d2 kyle steal-power-for-1-night-of-person-u-voted effective as of n3 (so d4)
d3 falcon protective effective as of n4
d4 ted bus driver
d5 made (offer unknown?)
d6 role stolen and offered to herself by kyle’s actions
she redirects all night actions and votes that were supposed to land on her to her target instead if they accept the deal.

DrWilgy – can offer role cop or btsc to a target – took no action n1-n4; n5 action redirected on himself via Kyle and he became role cop for the next night
On d6 he remained role cop, presumably due to being targeted by MR – he also was able to role cop Michelle and was given what we think was Dizzy’s role instead
On d7 claimed to forget to submit actions on n6

Dyslexicon – ‘superdoc’ who could protect both himself and their target (as per Dr Wilgy’s wording) – claims to have protected nutella during n3 and to know that his action was successful – was able to verify Martin’s claim and was alerted about this in some way

Hyena - a role that lets a dead person be in BTSC with living person. n1 – cat with jack (confirmed by jack). n2 – dyachei with Nutella. n3 – mac with tim (confirmed by tim). tracked by long con during n3 and seen visiting tim and mac. n4 – nutella with long con. n5 – mac with syn.

JustPlayingitcool – can become double voter or lose vote based on betting how many votes lead wagon receives - received an Elton John song N2

Kylemii – had four tasks to complete, and as part of that submits a name each night and is dinged when he has submitted both a town and mafia name (not notified about 3Ps and roleblocks) – got dinged after n4 (now confirmed to be due to ted) which almost certainly clears long con (n2) and tutuu (n3). Falcon was n1.
Can also steal the power of whoever he’s voting for at EoD and direct it against someone, but isn’t told what the power is. n1…
Also used alison's power steal to steal tim's shot on n3 and use it to shoot nanook. played baseball on day 3 and hit the ball

Long Con - claims to have played tetris on d2. soft cleared by kyle's mech info. n2 forgot to submit track and it was stolen by marmot anyway. n3 tracked hyena and saw him visiting mac and tim. n4 not sure? n5 saw Ted visiting Martin

Made – claims to have earned invulnerability somehow (can’t be chopped)

Master Radishes – claims he can make a person self-target. also won a roleblock by syn's tetris, used on Tim n6.
n1 - nanook to presumably no effect. n2 - 112 to some effect as per 112. n3 - hollowkatt to no effect according to hkat. n4 – Ted – effect unknown (it coincided with Martin’s jailkeep). n5 – DrWilgy – seems to have made Wilgy stay role cop but not stopped his check on Michelle. n6 - DrWilgy again, no effect
Greenchecked by Jack

Syn - backup of the yeet. n1 uset cat's silencer to silence sloonei. n2 used marmot's tetris to play vs MR, scored 0 on purpose. n3 used jack's role on i think nanook? n4 ? n5 ?

hollowkatt - claims a passive role that has self-defensive properties and that can't be disrupted. MR claims to have disrupted his target on n3. hollowkatt claims that he received no notification.

Timsup2nothin - n3 vig. shot at tutuu on n3 but failed due to kyle stealing it. n6 shot at MR but was blocked by MR’s roleblock (won via Tetris).

tutuu – no info. allegedly town by kyle's mech info claim. played baseball on day 2 and hit the ball

Not a final version. Someone help me out with:

*Kyle's votes/steals
*Syn's actions N4/N5/N6
*Updates e.g. what Tutuu claimed (I got a few but forget some)
*Anything else I missed

N4: Tim (forced vote)
N5: Nobody (baseball)
N6: Tim (invalidated vote)

[DrWilgy]

Btw guys I targeted Wilgy again with the self-target. Mainly PoE checking / wanted to see if he got any more strange results or whatever.

So um. Yeah.

Why would you do this? I said I can't prove if I'm stuck as rolechecker.

[Master Radishes]

Spoiler: show

==MECH MASTER POST VERSION 4==

DEAD:
cat - yeeted d1 - post silencer. put in contact with jackofhearts during d2 by hyena's communicator role

dyachei - killed n1 - vengeful. attempted to be put in contact with (nutella?) during d3 by hyena's role, allegedly they were afk

marmot - yeeted d2 - tetris blockhead - long con claims to have played tetris on d2 so allegedly marmot visited LC n1

mac - killed n2 - neighbourizer - targeted nutella at (some point?); nutella claims to have had BTSC with mac during d2 and n3; i think he was 1-shot. put in contact with timsup2nothing during d4 by hyena's role

falcon - killed n3 - negative utility umm vanilla town - presumably dead because ran out of spiders

nanook - killed n3 - mafia goon with no abilities. shot by kyle n3 using tim's vig shot

nutella – killed n3 - swapped with jack by her own ability. was in neighbourhood with mac.

112 – killed d4 – could direct people’s votes

Sloonei – killed d5 – threw baseballs at targets; certain combinations of balls/strikes would kill the target or himself – tutuu claimed to be targeted d2, and Kyle claimed to be targeted d3

MartinGG99 – killed n5 – jailkeeper – n1 falcon. n2 JPIC. n3 nutella. n4 Ted. 1/2 of his action on nutella failed

Tedxtr – killed d6 – negated a person’s vote the next day – tracked targeted Martin, Michelle, and himself during n5 (he had a one shot bus driver from Alison, and Martin was the n5 death – currently it is unclear who he targeted with what)

JackofHearts2005 – killed d7 - cop who forced simpsons or pesci quotes – outed sloonei, confirmed TSP and MR

TonyStarkPrime – killed d7 - nurse – targets were mac, skip skip, jack, skip jack

LIVING:
Alison - claims 3p gambit demon. chooses a target at day, they converse during night and accept or reject, at the end of the following day the deal is sealed and on the following night target can use action.
d1 long con tracker effective as of n2
d2 kyle steal-power-for-1-night-of-person-u-voted effective as of n3 (so d4)
d3 falcon protective effective as of n4
d4 ted bus driver
d5 made (offer unknown?)
d6 role stolen and offered to herself by kyle’s actions
she redirects all night actions and votes that were supposed to land on her to her target instead if they accept the deal.

DrWilgy – can offer role cop or btsc to a target – took no action n1-n4; n5 action redirected on himself via Kyle and he became role cop for the next night
On d6 he remained role cop, presumably due to being targeted by MR – he also was able to role cop Michelle and was given what we think was Dizzy’s role instead
On d7 claimed to forget to submit actions on n6

Dyslexicon – ‘superdoc’ who could protect both himself and their target (as per Dr Wilgy’s wording) – claims to have protected nutella during n3 and to know that his action was successful – was able to verify Martin’s claim and was alerted about this in some way

Hyena - a role that lets a dead person be in BTSC with living person. n1 – cat with jack (confirmed by jack). n2 – dyachei with Nutella. n3 – mac with tim (confirmed by tim). tracked by long con during n3 and seen visiting tim and mac. n4 – nutella with long con. n5 – mac with syn.

JustPlayingitcool – can become double voter or lose vote based on betting how many votes lead wagon receives - received an Elton John song N2

Kylemii – had four tasks to complete, and as part of that submits a name each night and is dinged when he has submitted both a town and mafia name (not notified about 3Ps and roleblocks) – got dinged after n4 (now confirmed to be due to ted) which almost certainly clears long con (n2) and tutuu (n3). Falcon was n1.
Can also steal the power of whoever he’s voting for at EoD and direct it against someone, but isn’t told what the power is. n1…
Also used alison's power steal to steal tim's shot on n3 and use it to shoot nanook. played baseball on day 3 and hit the ball

Long Con - claims to have played tetris on d2. soft cleared by kyle's mech info. n2 forgot to submit track and it was stolen by marmot anyway. n3 tracked hyena and saw him visiting mac and tim. n4 not sure? n5 saw Ted visiting Martin

Made – claims to have earned invulnerability somehow (can’t be chopped)

Master Radishes – claims he can make a person self-target. also won a roleblock by syn's tetris, used on Tim n6.
n1 - nanook to presumably no effect. n2 - 112 to some effect as per 112. n3 - hollowkatt to no effect according to hkat. n4 – Ted – effect unknown (it coincided with Martin’s jailkeep). n5 – DrWilgy – seems to have made Wilgy stay role cop but not stopped his check on Michelle. n6 - DrWilgy again, no effect
Greenchecked by Jack

Syn - backup of the yeet. n1 uset cat's silencer to silence sloonei. n2 used marmot's tetris to play vs MR, scored 0 on purpose. n3 used jack's role on i think nanook? n4 ? n5 ?

hollowkatt - claims a passive role that has self-defensive properties and that can't be disrupted. MR claims to have disrupted his target on n3. hollowkatt claims that he received no notification.

Timsup2nothin - n3 vig. shot at tutuu on n3 but failed due to kyle stealing it. n6 shot at MR but was blocked by MR’s roleblock (won via Tetris).

tutuu – no info. allegedly town by kyle's mech info claim. played baseball on day 2 and hit the ball

Not a final version. Someone help me out with:

*Kyle's votes/steals
*Syn's actions N4/N5/N6
*Updates e.g. what Tutuu claimed (I got a few but forget some)
*Anything else I missed

N4: Tim (forced vote)
N5: Nobody (baseball)
N6: Tim (invalidated vote)

Tyvm. I'll update later with hopefully more gaps filled too.

[Justplayingitcool]

I want Made to die

[Master Radishes]

Btw guys I targeted Wilgy again with the self-target. Mainly PoE checking / wanted to see if he got any more strange results or whatever.

So um. Yeah.

Why would you do this? I said I can't prove if I'm stuck as rolechecker.

Wanted to see what happened.

[Timsup2nothin]

Spoiler: show

==MECH MASTER POST VERSION 4==

DEAD:
cat - yeeted d1 - post silencer. put in contact with jackofhearts during d2 by hyena's communicator role

dyachei - killed n1 - vengeful. attempted to be put in contact with (nutella?) during d3 by hyena's role, allegedly they were afk

marmot - yeeted d2 - tetris blockhead - long con claims to have played tetris on d2 so allegedly marmot visited LC n1

mac - killed n2 - neighbourizer - targeted nutella at (some point?); nutella claims to have had BTSC with mac during d2 and n3; i think he was 1-shot. put in contact with timsup2nothing during d4 by hyena's role

falcon - killed n3 - negative utility umm vanilla town - presumably dead because ran out of spiders

nanook - killed n3 - mafia goon with no abilities. shot by kyle n3 using tim's vig shot

nutella – killed n3 - swapped with jack by her own ability. was in neighbourhood with mac.

112 – killed d4 – could direct people’s votes

Sloonei – killed d5 – threw baseballs at targets; certain combinations of balls/strikes would kill the target or himself – tutuu claimed to be targeted d2, and Kyle claimed to be targeted d3

MartinGG99 – killed n5 – jailkeeper – n1 falcon. n2 JPIC. n3 nutella. n4 Ted. 1/2 of his action on nutella failed

Tedxtr – killed d6 – negated a person’s vote the next day – tracked targeted Martin, Michelle, and himself during n5 (he had a one shot bus driver from Alison, and Martin was the n5 death – currently it is unclear who he targeted with what)

JackofHearts2005 – killed d7 - cop who forced simpsons or pesci quotes – outed sloonei, confirmed TSP and MR

TonyStarkPrime – killed d7 - nurse – targets were mac, skip skip, jack, skip jack

LIVING:
Alison - claims 3p gambit demon. chooses a target at day, they converse during night and accept or reject, at the end of the following day the deal is sealed and on the following night target can use action.
d1 long con tracker effective as of n2
d2 kyle steal-power-for-1-night-of-person-u-voted effective as of n3 (so d4)
d3 falcon protective effective as of n4
d4 ted bus driver
d5 made (offer unknown?)
d6 role stolen and offered to herself by kyle’s actions
she redirects all night actions and votes that were supposed to land on her to her target instead if they accept the deal.

DrWilgy – can offer role cop or btsc to a target – took no action n1-n4; n5 action redirected on himself via Kyle and he became role cop for the next night
On d6 he remained role cop, presumably due to being targeted by MR – he also was able to role cop Michelle and was given what we think was Dizzy’s role instead
On d7 claimed to forget to submit actions on n6

Dyslexicon – ‘superdoc’ who could protect both himself and their target (as per Dr Wilgy’s wording) – claims to have protected nutella during n3 and to know that his action was successful – was able to verify Martin’s claim and was alerted about this in some way

Hyena - a role that lets a dead person be in BTSC with living person. n1 – cat with jack (confirmed by jack). n2 – dyachei with Nutella. n3 – mac with tim (confirmed by tim). tracked by long con during n3 and seen visiting tim and mac. n4 – nutella with long con. n5 – mac with syn.

JustPlayingitcool – can become double voter or lose vote based on betting how many votes lead wagon receives - received an Elton John song N2

Kylemii – had four tasks to complete, and as part of that submits a name each night and is dinged when he has submitted both a town and mafia name (not notified about 3Ps and roleblocks) – got dinged after n4 (now confirmed to be due to ted) which almost certainly clears long con (n2) and tutuu (n3). Falcon was n1.
Can also steal the power of whoever he’s voting for at EoD and direct it against someone, but isn’t told what the power is. n1…
Also used alison's power steal to steal tim's shot on n3 and use it to shoot nanook. played baseball on day 3 and hit the ball

Long Con - claims to have played tetris on d2. soft cleared by kyle's mech info. n2 forgot to submit track and it was stolen by marmot anyway. n3 tracked hyena and saw him visiting mac and tim. n4 not sure? n5 saw Ted visiting Martin

Made – claims to have earned invulnerability somehow (can’t be chopped)

Master Radishes – claims he can make a person self-target. also won a roleblock by syn's tetris, used on Tim n6.
n1 - nanook to presumably no effect. n2 - 112 to some effect as per 112. n3 - hollowkatt to no effect according to hkat. n4 – Ted – effect unknown (it coincided with Martin’s jailkeep). n5 – DrWilgy – seems to have made Wilgy stay role cop but not stopped his check on Michelle. n6 - DrWilgy again, no effect
Greenchecked by Jack

Syn - backup of the yeet. n1 uset cat's silencer to silence sloonei. n2 used marmot's tetris to play vs MR, scored 0 on purpose. n3 used jack's role on i think nanook? n4 ? n5 ?

hollowkatt - claims a passive role that has self-defensive properties and that can't be disrupted. MR claims to have disrupted his target on n3. hollowkatt claims that he received no notification.

Timsup2nothin - n3 vig. shot at tutuu on n3 but failed due to kyle stealing it. n6 shot at MR but was blocked by MR’s roleblock (won via Tetris).

tutuu – no info. allegedly town by kyle's mech info claim. played baseball on day 2 and hit the ball

Not a final version. Someone help me out with:

*Kyle's votes/steals
*Syn's actions N4/N5/N6
*Updates e.g. what Tutuu claimed (I got a few but forget some)
*Anything else I missed

N4: Tim (forced vote)
N5: Nobody (baseball)
N6: Tim (invalidated vote)

I feel neglected about not getting the baseball thrown at me tbh.

[hollowkatt]

question:

as a devils advocate real quick...

tutuu's role is also provable. do we think deciding ties would be a likely town power? mafia power? or neither?

mafia power to balance out that modbot townsides.

[Hyena]

I'm back. <3

EOD2 Wagons
Marmot(10): Sloonei, Mac, Made, Nute, Tim, Radish, Martin, JPIC, Hyena, Syn

You want to tell me only Sloonei bussed Marmot? This is interesting.

I actually called that wagon completely 100% pure in my initial read (including Sloonei), believe it or not. I think I even moved Sloonei out of my scumreads because of it.

[Syn]

Spoiler: show

==MECH MASTER POST VERSION 4==

DEAD:
cat - yeeted d1 - post silencer. put in contact with jackofhearts during d2 by hyena's communicator role

dyachei - killed n1 - vengeful. attempted to be put in contact with (nutella?) during d3 by hyena's role, allegedly they were afk

marmot - yeeted d2 - tetris blockhead - long con claims to have played tetris on d2 so allegedly marmot visited LC n1

mac - killed n2 - neighbourizer - targeted nutella at (some point?); nutella claims to have had BTSC with mac during d2 and n3; i think he was 1-shot. put in contact with timsup2nothing during d4 by hyena's role

falcon - killed n3 - negative utility umm vanilla town - presumably dead because ran out of spiders

nanook - killed n3 - mafia goon with no abilities. shot by kyle n3 using tim's vig shot

nutella – killed n3 - swapped with jack by her own ability. was in neighbourhood with mac.

112 – killed d4 – could direct people’s votes

Sloonei – killed d5 – threw baseballs at targets; certain combinations of balls/strikes would kill the target or himself – tutuu claimed to be targeted d2, and Kyle claimed to be targeted d3

MartinGG99 – killed n5 – jailkeeper – n1 falcon. n2 JPIC. n3 nutella. n4 Ted. 1/2 of his action on nutella failed

Tedxtr – killed d6 – negated a person’s vote the next day – tracked targeted Martin, Michelle, and himself during n5 (he had a one shot bus driver from Alison, and Martin was the n5 death – currently it is unclear who he targeted with what)

JackofHearts2005 – killed d7 - cop who forced simpsons or pesci quotes – outed sloonei, confirmed TSP and MR

TonyStarkPrime – killed d7 - nurse – targets were mac, skip skip, jack, skip jack

LIVING:
Alison - claims 3p gambit demon. chooses a target at day, they converse during night and accept or reject, at the end of the following day the deal is sealed and on the following night target can use action.
d1 long con tracker effective as of n2
d2 kyle steal-power-for-1-night-of-person-u-voted effective as of n3 (so d4)
d3 falcon protective effective as of n4
d4 ted bus driver
d5 made (offer unknown?)
d6 role stolen and offered to herself by kyle’s actions
she redirects all night actions and votes that were supposed to land on her to her target instead if they accept the deal.

DrWilgy – can offer role cop or btsc to a target – took no action n1-n4; n5 action redirected on himself via Kyle and he became role cop for the next night
On d6 he remained role cop, presumably due to being targeted by MR – he also was able to role cop Michelle and was given what we think was Dizzy’s role instead
On d7 claimed to forget to submit actions on n6

Dyslexicon – ‘superdoc’ who could protect both himself and their target (as per Dr Wilgy’s wording) – claims to have protected nutella during n3 and to know that his action was successful – was able to verify Martin’s claim and was alerted about this in some way

Hyena - a role that lets a dead person be in BTSC with living person. n1 – cat with jack (confirmed by jack). n2 – dyachei with Nutella. n3 – mac with tim (confirmed by tim). tracked by long con during n3 and seen visiting tim and mac. n4 – nutella with long con. n5 – mac with syn.

JustPlayingitcool – can become double voter or lose vote based on betting how many votes lead wagon receives - received an Elton John song N2

Kylemii – had four tasks to complete, and as part of that submits a name each night and is dinged when he has submitted both a town and mafia name (not notified about 3Ps and roleblocks) – got dinged after n4 (now confirmed to be due to ted) which almost certainly clears long con (n2) and tutuu (n3). Falcon was n1.
Can also steal the power of whoever he’s voting for at EoD and direct it against someone, but isn’t told what the power is. n1…
Also used alison's power steal to steal tim's shot on n3 and use it to shoot nanook. played baseball on day 3 and hit the ball

Long Con - claims to have played tetris on d2. soft cleared by kyle's mech info. n2 forgot to submit track and it was stolen by marmot anyway. n3 tracked hyena and saw him visiting mac and tim. n4 not sure? n5 saw Ted visiting Martin

Made – claims to have earned invulnerability somehow (can’t be chopped)

Master Radishes – claims he can make a person self-target. also won a roleblock by syn's tetris, used on Tim n6.
n1 - nanook to presumably no effect. n2 - 112 to some effect as per 112. n3 - hollowkatt to no effect according to hkat. n4 – Ted – effect unknown (it coincided with Martin’s jailkeep). n5 – DrWilgy – seems to have made Wilgy stay role cop but not stopped his check on Michelle. n6 - DrWilgy again, no effect
Greenchecked by Jack

Syn - backup of the yeet. n1 uset cat's silencer to silence sloonei. n2 used marmot's tetris to play vs MR, scored 0 on purpose. n3 used jack's role on i think nanook? n4 ? n5 ?

hollowkatt - claims a passive role that has self-defensive properties and that can't be disrupted. MR claims to have disrupted his target on n3. hollowkatt claims that he received no notification.

Timsup2nothin - n3 vig. shot at tutuu on n3 but failed due to kyle stealing it. n6 shot at MR but was blocked by MR’s roleblock (won via Tetris).

tutuu – no info. allegedly town by kyle's mech info claim. played baseball on day 2 and hit the ball

Not a final version. Someone help me out with:

*Kyle's votes/steals
*Syn's actions N4/N5/N6
*Updates e.g. what Tutuu claimed (I got a few but forget some)
*Anything else I missed

N4: Tim (forced vote)
N5: Nobody (baseball)
N6: Tim (invalidated vote)

I feel neglected about not getting the baseball thrown at me tbh.

I didn't want to risk dying lol

but I strongly considered it

since I'm not able to use anything useful I only have trolling you to occupy my time