Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [AMERICA RISES]

[Marmot]

I am very aware.

[Marmot]

@DaughterOfOmega what do you think of Sloonei right now?

[Sloonei]

There's probably some stuff to be gleaned from everyone pushing on falcon so hard, but I don't feel like doing that now.

[VOTE: Rej] aubergine because this is the way.

What is your understanding of the falcon situation?

Grogu targeted falcon with some ability. Falcon didn't claim for raisins. Everyone believed Grogu and not falcon.

I was too lazy to look if anyone was taking advantage of the situation, but any mafia player would know he wasn't on their team, so it is a possibility that can be looked into is what I'm saying here.

This is the case for everybody in the game.

[Marmot]

There's probably some stuff to be gleaned from everyone pushing on falcon so hard, but I don't feel like doing that now.

[VOTE: Rej] aubergine because this is the way.

What is your understanding of the falcon situation?

Grogu targeted falcon with some ability. Falcon didn't claim for raisins. Everyone believed Grogu and not falcon.

I was too lazy to look if anyone was taking advantage of the situation, but any mafia player would know he wasn't on their team, so it is a possibility that can be looked into is what I'm saying here.

This is the case for everybody in the game.

I'm talking about pre-flip.

[Sloonei]

There's probably some stuff to be gleaned from everyone pushing on falcon so hard, but I don't feel like doing that now.

[VOTE: Rej] aubergine because this is the way.

What is your understanding of the falcon situation?

Grogu targeted falcon with some ability. Falcon didn't claim for raisins. Everyone believed Grogu and not falcon.

I was too lazy to look if anyone was taking advantage of the situation, but any mafia player would know he wasn't on their team, so it is a possibility that can be looked into is what I'm saying here.

This is the case for everybody in the game.

I'm talking about pre-flip.

So am I.

[DaughterOfOmega]

@DaughterOfOmega what do you think of Sloonei right now?

I thought they were pretty towny before, and nothing much has changed.

I actually found it really weird when I saw them picking up votes

[Sloonei]

I keep prodding Marmot and he keeps responding, but at no point have I read his responses and thought, “yeah, this is a player making an earnest effort to figure out what’s happening.” It is difficult to describe my impression of him beyond that right now. I just do not feel like he’s giving off the right aura, or something.

[Dom]

Hey everyone-- I am going to try and catch up, but there's no way that's happening for EOD which I've ntoiced is tonight. I had an incredibly rough few days at work. Good news? I heard about possible vaccination news today! I am going to non vote, but try and broadcast my catch up until the night falls. I have to do some stuff in a bit, but I'm going to do my best.

[VOTE: spf] aubergine

you would almost certainly be townreading me right now if you were town

So would you.

This felt off to me. Both parties. Odd. It just felt meaningless and like neither one is actually trying to say anything.

[TonyStarkPrime]

yeah I'm gonna stop tinfoiling ChopChop as town for that Sloonei vote, didn't even notice that

him or Rej w/e someone shoot the other tonight

enclave have doctors and commuters and such. nobody should be attempting to vig the obvious

What if we have a clever watcher?

clever is not a word i'd throw around in this group of players

:P

[Sloonei]

There's probably some stuff to be gleaned from everyone pushing on falcon so hard, but I don't feel like doing that now.

[VOTE: Rej] aubergine because this is the way.

What is your understanding of the falcon situation?

Grogu targeted falcon with some ability. Falcon didn't claim for raisins. Everyone believed Grogu and not falcon.

I was too lazy to look if anyone was taking advantage of the situation, but any mafia player would know he wasn't on their team, so it is a possibility that can be looked into is what I'm saying here.

This is the case for everybody in the game.

I'm talking about pre-flip.

So am I.

Like this whole sequence, for example. The uncertainty and speculation from Marmot around falcon just seems fake. His comment about mafia players taking advantage of the situation is in no way exclusive to falcon, so I don’t understand why it would be a particular point of confusion here. It reads more like Marmot is trying to appear thoughtful rather than actually taking the thread in stride.

[TonyStarkPrime]

falcon45ca has been killed by the host. He was:

Spoiler: show

Jagged Jimmy J

Please do not discuss host kill decisions publicly. It is okay to speculate about game-relevant matters, but not the decision itself. falcon is not in trouble, the cause was accidental. Concerns may be directed to me privately. Thanks folks.

just referring to the reveal: grogu, what you got

[Marmot]

There's probably some stuff to be gleaned from everyone pushing on falcon so hard, but I don't feel like doing that now.

[VOTE: Rej] aubergine because this is the way.

What is your understanding of the falcon situation?

Grogu targeted falcon with some ability. Falcon didn't claim for raisins. Everyone believed Grogu and not falcon.

I was too lazy to look if anyone was taking advantage of the situation, but any mafia player would know he wasn't on their team, so it is a possibility that can be looked into is what I'm saying here.

This is the case for everybody in the game.

I'm talking about pre-flip.

So am I.

Can you explain what you're implying? I'm confused. How would say an Arroyo member know he's not an Arroyo or some other townish alignment?

[Sloonei]

There's probably some stuff to be gleaned from everyone pushing on falcon so hard, but I don't feel like doing that now.

[VOTE: Rej] aubergine because this is the way.

What is your understanding of the falcon situation?

Grogu targeted falcon with some ability. Falcon didn't claim for raisins. Everyone believed Grogu and not falcon.

I was too lazy to look if anyone was taking advantage of the situation, but any mafia player would know he wasn't on their team, so it is a possibility that can be looked into is what I'm saying here.

This is the case for everybody in the game.

I'm talking about pre-flip.

So am I.

Can you explain what you're implying? I'm confused. How would say an Arroyo member know he's not an Arroyo or some other townish alignment?

Arroyo is not a mafia team.

Every member of every mafia team would know that every player other than their teammates is not on their team.

[KZA]

@Sloonei I agree, the main sticking point for me was that Marmot goes "oh Mafia might've tried to take advantage" but fails to produce any names of his own

[Dom]

Crap-- I have to run out. I will be back tonight, but night will have fallen, I think. I am hoping to catch up by the start of Day 3. I'm sorry folks.

[DaughterOfOmega]

It feels like people who are voting Slooney are asking others to give a reason he is mafia lol

[Kylemii]

@Kylemii
May I ask why your voting me here when you were voting with me before.

to be more direct my vote for sloonei was out of senseless whimsey and curiousity, my vote for you now is to keep the votes close and see what happens

[Kylemii]

which can also be described as senseless whimsey i guess

[Sloonei]

It feels like people who are voting Slooney are asking others to give a reason he is mafia lol

I do not think any of the votes on me are real or serious

[Marmot]

@Sloonei I agree, the main sticking point for me was that Marmot goes "oh Mafia might've tried to take advantage" but fails to produce any names of his own

Well what do you make of the idea then?

[Marmot]

@DaughterOfOmega what do you think of Sloonei right now?

I thought they were pretty towny before, and nothing much has changed.

I actually found it really weird when I saw them picking up votes

Thanks, there was a moment earlier where I thought you were shading Sloonei and your read here had changed, but I take it that was a joke.

[Marmot]

Can we just vig Sloonei?

[Sloonei]

Can we just vig Sloonei?

What is your read on me today?

[Urist]

I keep prodding Marmot and he keeps responding, but at no point have I read his responses and thought, “yeah, this is a player making an earnest effort to figure out what’s happening.” It is difficult to describe my impression of him beyond that right now. I just do not feel like he’s giving off the right aura, or something.

this is kind of my impression as well. it's difficult to express eloquently. he seems detached.

[Marmot]

I do feel detached, this is accurate.

[Urist]

I do feel detached, this is accurate.

how do we make you attached then?

[Marmot]

Can we just vig Sloonei?

What is your read on me today?

A combination of

- probably town because a number of other players think so and I'm willing to believe them
- scummy based on your content regarding ChopChop
- town because you're posting so goddam much, and your reads in some corners are believable and agreeable
- tinfoil scummy because I'm having a hard time trusting you based on our interactions

[Sloonei]

Can we just vig Sloonei?

What is your read on me today?

A combination of

- probably town because a number of other players think so and I'm willing to believe them
- scummy based on your content regarding ChopChop
- town because you're posting so goddam much, and your reads in some corners are believable and agreeable
- tinfoil scummy because I'm having a hard time trusting you based on our interactions

The associative read with chopchop does not compute. Please explain.

[Marmot]

I do feel detached, this is accurate.

how do we make you attached then?

Don't put me through the ringer like Sloonei did and expect me to have the same energy I did before.

Also, Night 2 will be a nice break.

[Marmot]

I'm just gonna leave the thread for now and come back tomorrow. I do feel a little detached and would rather be here with a better mindset and motivation.

[Marmot]

I'll answer your questions then Sloonei.

[Spacedaisy]

So I wasn't around, nor have I properly caught up on what happened at EoD yesterday. I know someone mentioned there was a red peek on Rej from Mac? What's the story there? Why didn't he get chopped?

I'm going to toss my vote there for now just to be sure I don't miss another vote. I'll try and play tomorrow, at the very least I can play at lunchtime. I'll reevaluate then.

[VOTE: Rej] aubergine

I do not know where you got this, bur your vote is in the right place.

I swear that is what someone told me at the end of D1. I’d have to go back and look. Maybe I’m crazy, I dunno. Lots of crazy shit has happened in this game.

from wolf btsc????

Lol, no man. I don’t have any btsc

[Kylemii]

So I wasn't around, nor have I properly caught up on what happened at EoD yesterday. I know someone mentioned there was a red peek on Rej from Mac? What's the story there? Why didn't he get chopped?

I'm going to toss my vote there for now just to be sure I don't miss another vote. I'll try and play tomorrow, at the very least I can play at lunchtime. I'll reevaluate then.

[VOTE: Rej] aubergine

I do not know where you got this, bur your vote is in the right place.

I swear that is what someone told me at the end of D1. I’d have to go back and look. Maybe I’m crazy, I dunno. Lots of crazy shit has happened in this game.

from wolf btsc????

Lol, no man. I don’t have any btsc

that's exactly what you'd say if you DID have btsc

[staypositivefriend]

[VOTE: ChopChop] aubergine

[staypositivefriend]

biggest takeaway i got from my catch-up is that marmot is scum

[Kylemii]

biggest takeaway i got from my catch-up is that marmot is scum

why is that

[staypositivefriend]

biggest takeaway i got from my catch-up is that marmot is scum

why is that

i think that marmot being ~detached~ from the game is non-alignment indicative, but a number of his posts give me the sense that he's uncomfortable w/the thread in general. this post exemplifies the broader trend of marmot seeming tonally out of place w/the rest of the thread:

There's probably some stuff to be gleaned from everyone pushing on falcon so hard, but I don't feel like doing that now.

[VOTE: Rej] aubergine because this is the way.

this read is more abstract/tone-based than i would like it to be. i'll try to figure out a way to articulate it better

[DaughterOfOmega]

deciding between two wagons where I don't care if either live is meh

[Urist]

deciding between two wagons where I don't care if either live is meh

vote rej

[Kylemii]

what time does this cycle actually end?

[Urist]

less than 3h

[MartinGG99]

Rip falcon.

I could think of a very small amount of roles that Grogu could be, but honestly some of those suspicions require Grogu lying at one point or another.

Regardless though, I think all those possibilities proves he's very likely just not my enemy without just pure WIFOMing in paranoia about it so I'm not really concerned by him.

[MartinGG99]

I think SPF is more likely to be town than I did before

Though with her recent Marmot suspicions I'm still on the null boat tbh. I don't think I can confidently call some of his recent developments as being towny or scummy AI, and what I could think be AI may be stretching a bit.

[MartinGG99]

Anyways,

I still think Chop is town, and even though there's an argument to be made that he probably will be chopped at some point by most people here and so its bad to have him at FX

I think that also applies to Rej.

[VOTE: Rej] aubergine

[MartinGG99]

Nothing short of a scum-flip that will make me think Chop Chop is scum here. Not even a red-check, though I may end up voting them for that since that could be in some cases the "mechanically correct move" in order to figure how much that cop is lying.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Please chop obvious wolf Chop or else i might have to deal with him tomorrow. Chopping obvious wolf Rej is nice and all too though

[staypositivefriend]

i don't really care which one dies, in all honesty

the only reason im voting chopchop is because there's significantly more resistance in favor of him, and im worried about him slipping away in future days

[MartinGG99]

Please chop obvious wolf Chop or else i might have to deal with him tomorrow. Chopping obvious wolf Rej is nice and all too though

You're just tunneled over one guy's incapacity to think like you do.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Please chop obvious wolf Chop or else i might have to deal with him tomorrow. Chopping obvious wolf Rej is nice and all too though

You're just tunneled over one guy's incapacity to think like you do.

Yes.

[TonyStarkPrime]

There’s a healthy amount of OMGUS here too