Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[Timsup2nothin]

I want to vote elsewhere tim but im doing this to shield tutuu for this phase

That's fine, so long as after you help Tutuu kill me you sheep my read.

[Timsup2nothin]

syn, michelle, hk, and jpic

There you go. I tightened the poe for you

I tried, but he blew off my HK read. Very sad.

what was the hk read? sorry i was multitasking

It was a feelie read anyway. JPIC clearing has more objective value.

[Kylemii]

ok now looking at this i'm remembering why we townread these people in the first place lol

so maybe my "just try to leave confirmed townies alive at endgame duh" process is a little too idealistic

[Kylemii]

why is jpic town

[Timsup2nothin]

ok now looking at this i'm remembering why we townread these people in the first place lol

so maybe my "just try to leave confirmed townies alive at endgame duh" process is a little too idealistic

We are already at the point where any three people reaching F3 is going to include "three confirmed townies"...that's the problem.

[Justplayingitcool]

why is jpic town

Everybody who has died so far townread me (ither than mac but he read me as town in the btsc with tim iirc)

I was sent a song from ted n2 which i hinted at a lot this game

And look at my posts trying to solve this damn game for the last month

[hollowkatt]

Master Radish, early posts are a "big mood" but he manages to get into a swing of things, and responds to nutella's case moderately well, I think? Throws out some prods that seem earnest to me.

In a regular 1 ball game I would rate this player as a slight town I think.Bexcept that doesn't really mean anything here, since mafia can be earnest too I guess. But for what it's worth, every post I've read from him comes from a relatable place which I can understand logically and spiritually.

@Kylemii when did the game go from potential multi-ball to town/wolf/3p?

[Justplayingitcool]

Actually idk what martin’s read of me was at thr end tbh

[hollowkatt]

I'm gonna do spicy plays now [VOTE: kyle] aubergine

that is very spicy

@hollowkatt

Bad vote. If Tutuu flips red we have to decide whether her role could have mislead Kyle, or if the greencheck is just fake. But Tutuu is always a wolf if Kyle is, so go there first.

I never said it was a good vote, I said I'm doing spicy plays now.

[Kylemii]

Master Radish, early posts are a "big mood" but he manages to get into a swing of things, and responds to nutella's case moderately well, I think? Throws out some prods that seem earnest to me.

In a regular 1 ball game I would rate this player as a slight town I think.Bexcept that doesn't really mean anything here, since mafia can be earnest too I guess. But for what it's worth, every post I've read from him comes from a relatable place which I can understand logically and spiritually.

@Kylemii when did the game go from potential multi-ball to town/wolf/3p?

i don't understand the question

that would have been following the first yeet where we found out the mafia was just called mafia

[Justplayingitcool]

Go through my iso and you can see i mentioned elton john randomly a few times

[hollowkatt]

I think voting tutuu out is a bad idea this phase while the green check is in play. If she survives the next few nights thats when the tinfoil begins

i dont think im ever dying lol (by nk) (due to the amount of scumreads on me already despite the peek)

maybe i would have died earlier but if i was wolf i wouldnt kill me here. maybe if i'd kill me i'd be the very final nk before f3

I expect you to die at night sometime in the next couple nights if the peek is real. We're getting to the point where wolves need to kill real live townies, not just "can't be chopped" townies.
Also, if we for some reason flip the person who peeked you and it's a confirmed peek you're just dead.

[hollowkatt]

Everyone should do a trustfall

none of my reasons are good

[Kylemii]

i've singlehandedly killed 1 mafia, led to the death of another, and created a doctor for fun

[Justplayingitcool]

Everyone should do a trustfall

none of my reasons are good

Just do it lol

[Timsup2nothin]

I'm gonna do spicy plays now [VOTE: kyle] aubergine

that is very spicy

@hollowkatt

Bad vote. If Tutuu flips red we have to decide whether her role could have mislead Kyle, or if the greencheck is just fake. But Tutuu is always a wolf if Kyle is, so go there first.

I never said it was a good vote, I said I'm doing spicy plays now.

HK: Take over and solve the game dammit!
Tim: Okay, here's the wolf.
HK: I'm voting over there.

smh

[hollowkatt]

Master Radish, early posts are a "big mood" but he manages to get into a swing of things, and responds to nutella's case moderately well, I think? Throws out some prods that seem earnest to me.

In a regular 1 ball game I would rate this player as a slight town I think.Bexcept that doesn't really mean anything here, since mafia can be earnest too I guess. But for what it's worth, every post I've read from him comes from a relatable place which I can understand logically and spiritually.

@Kylemii when did the game go from potential multi-ball to town/wolf/3p?

i don't understand the question

that would have been following the first yeet where we found out the mafia was just called mafia

I wasn't here then so seeing people discussing legit ideas about multi-ball peaked my interest. Appreciate it.

[Kylemii]

and attempted to to clear 3 other players in addition, 4 if you count tim

[Kylemii]

Master Radish, early posts are a "big mood" but he manages to get into a swing of things, and responds to nutella's case moderately well, I think? Throws out some prods that seem earnest to me.

In a regular 1 ball game I would rate this player as a slight town I think.Bexcept that doesn't really mean anything here, since mafia can be earnest too I guess. But for what it's worth, every post I've read from him comes from a relatable place which I can understand logically and spiritually.

@Kylemii when did the game go from potential multi-ball to town/wolf/3p?

i don't understand the question

that would have been following the first yeet where we found out the mafia was just called mafia

I wasn't here then so seeing people discussing legit ideas about multi-ball peaked my interest. Appreciate it.

oh that's right! i forgot you replaced in, i thought that was just a 'bazinga'

[Kylemii]

if my mechanical efforts are ever not enough i am capable of stumping myself to prove my innocence lol

[Timsup2nothin]

if my mechanical efforts are ever not enough i am capable of stumping myself to prove my innocence lol

I wanna kill Tutuu and see that her role completely accounts for your "green check" and call you my town pal.

[Justplayingitcool]

if my mechanical efforts are ever not enough i am capable of stumping myself to prove my innocence lol

I wanna kill Tutuu and see that her role completely accounts for your "green check" and call you my town pal.

Why do you want to kill tutuu and not LC?

[Justplayingitcool]

@Kylemii - to tighten your poe even further. Does syn silence his partner?

Syn was also really townie during the radish mech disaster

[Justplayingitcool]

And syn instigated the marmot yeet

[Kylemii]

michelle, hk, and jpic

[Kylemii]

michelle had a strong interacting with sloonei right

[Justplayingitcool]

michelle, hk, and jpic

You didn’t like my hk reasons?

Well anyway, i helped you remove two people from your PoE. Now why would I as a wolf would do that? WIFOM i hear you cry

[Justplayingitcool]

michelle had a strong interacting with sloonei right

wdym

[Kylemii]

michelle, hk, and jpic

You didn’t like my hk reasons?

Well anyway, i helped you remove two people from your PoE. Now why would I as a wolf would do that? WIFOM i hear you cry

wait what were the hk reasons lol

[Justplayingitcool]

michelle, hk, and jpic

You didn’t like my hk reasons?

Well anyway, i helped you remove two people from your PoE. Now why would I as a wolf would do that? WIFOM i hear you cry

wait what were the hk reasons lol

Sloonei and marmot spewed hk town imo from their iso

Sloonei especially. He wanted hk to die so many times

[Kylemii]

there was some reaosn why michelle was considered town and i don't remember it. it was relationship based and not mechanical, she never outed her role

[Justplayingitcool]

I think the reason i had michelle town was from the ted yeet. Also thought the tunnel on tutuu was townish but im not as certain as i once was

[Kylemii]

jpic, when you got elton john'd were you told that your vote was diminished?

did anyone else talk about getting elton john'd?

[Kylemii]

this is actually fucked. maybe alison is just secretly a serial killer

[Kylemii]

serial yeeter

[Justplayingitcool]

jpic, when you got elton john'd were you told that your vote was diminished?

did anyone else talk about getting elton john'd?

I had no idea my vote was fucked with. I just got sent the music video and nothing else, which is why I said that im not sure if the the thing I received was good or bad, or if it was relevant to the game. The moment of clarity came with teds flip

Michelle claimed she received a song n1 (post ted flip) but no one else has claimed receiving one as far as i am aware

[Kylemii]

ok

[Kylemii]

so

[Kylemii]

everyone's just town then

[Justplayingitcool]

everyone's just town then

So you can see the problem im having with the gamestate right now. I have no fucking clue who the last wolf is if there is one. Everyone has something going for them

[Kylemii]

everyone's just town then

So you can see the problem im having with the gamestate right now. I have no fucking clue who the last wolf is if there is one. Everyone has something going for them

yeah i'm on the same page now unfortunately

[hollowkatt]

Everyone should do a trustfall

none of my reasons are good

Just do it lol

ugh fine

Dyslexicon - Their tone, attitude, and willingness to directly engage with people asking them tough questions is spot on. Dizzy is playing like he wants to find a solution that works, not a solution that fits the current game state. He's willing to examine angles and think out loud about things.
I like the energy and thoughtfulness he's bringing when he posts, and nothing he's posting feels like it's rushed or needs to be said. He's saying the things he wants to say when he wants to say it. I like that he's done digging into flipped wolves and using what he finds there to semi-clear people. That's narrowing the POE and forcing wolves to have to interact with him to change his mind.


HK - I trust myself

Hyena - Attempting to flip the game on it's head today was townie don't @ me. He's unafraid to dance with anyone that wants to and when he does he brings good thoughts to the table. His arguments with JPIC today are solid, even if I think he's wrong and they don't seem to have an agenda to them, they just exist and people can interact as they want to.
I really like the posts he made towards Dizzy during D4 where he questions Dizzy on why he voted Wiggly after saying he could confidently read Nanook. They seem legit. Going to revisit this series of posts later and see if they still make sense.

JPIC - Townie attitude of dgaf, I like that. When I wolf hunt I'm looking for people that either aren't making enough sense, or are making too much sense. JPIC is right in that sweet spot of "I can't tell if you make sense or not". I also look for people who aren't starting fights (I am weak to a powerwolf I know that), or are reacting to conflict poorly and JPIC isn't doing any of that. He's not pure or clean but he's here and he's appearing to put in work.

Kyle - I kinda don't. I'm trying to come up with some reasons and they all come back to mech and kinda I hate that. This slot left intentionally blank I guess.

LC - Has been doing real work finding wolves and chopping them. Has also made lots of townie posts and hasn't made posts that make me want to snap vote him (at least not in the last couple days anyways). More flowery words go here if you want them, but this is more of a gut trusting thing I guess. Basically, if he's wolfing here he's playing an extremely solid game and not putting a single paw out of place. Odds seem good that's town, at least to me anyways.

This spot is intentionally left blank - insert something funny here, I'm running out of laughs

Michelle - Her death tunnel on tutuu is about the towniest thing she's doing. And yeah, that's about it too.

Syn - Tunnel on Tim - Check
Tunnelish on me - Check
Has DGAF attitude - Check
Thought he had a mech bomb to drop - Check
Syn is checking off the townie boxes I have for him. He's town


Tim - I could wax eloquently about Tim for hours I'm sure, but the jist of it is this: Wolf Tim doesn't get into the pissing matches he's currently getting in to. He knows he going to lose if he does that. His best way of winning this game is to pocket me, quietly dispatch the people who suspect him, and figure out a way to manage Syn. I don't see that happening here at all. I see Tim being town, doing dumb town things, and I buy his shots logic, they're shots that make sense to me.

Tutuu - See Michelle tbh, but if you don't want to, her death tunnels are the only thing that appear to be town b/c without them she's not doing anything of note or productive.

[hollowkatt]

I'm gonna do spicy plays now [VOTE: kyle] aubergine

that is very spicy

@hollowkatt

Bad vote. If Tutuu flips red we have to decide whether her role could have mislead Kyle, or if the greencheck is just fake. But Tutuu is always a wolf if Kyle is, so go there first.

I never said it was a good vote, I said I'm doing spicy plays now.

HK: Take over and solve the game dammit!
Tim: Okay, here's the wolf.
HK: I'm voting over there.

smh

I expected a punt into the sun gif to accompany this post.

[Justplayingitcool]

Thank you HK. I shall read it tomorrow sometime

[hollowkatt]

Thank you HK. I shall read it tomorrow sometime

yeah, no rush

[hollowkatt]

I'm confused, why is Alison removed from the poll again and who did that?

Also, by my trustfall it's just Tutuu/Michelle like every time unless the wolf has me snowed, in which case it's Syn/Tim every time.

[Justplayingitcool]

I'm confused, why is Alison removed from the poll again and who did that?

Also, by my trustfall it's just Tutuu/Michelle like every time unless the wolf has me snowed, in which case it's Syn/Tim every time.

LC removed alison from the poll

[hollowkatt]

I'm confused, why is Alison removed from the poll again and who did that?

Also, by my trustfall it's just Tutuu/Michelle like every time unless the wolf has me snowed, in which case it's Syn/Tim every time.

LC removed alison from the poll

ok, I missed that.

@Long Con why did you remove Alison from the poll?

[Timsup2nothin]

if my mechanical efforts are ever not enough i am capable of stumping myself to prove my innocence lol

I wanna kill Tutuu and see that her role completely accounts for your "green check" and call you my town pal.

Why do you want to kill tutuu and not LC?

Because if you set aside the green checks Tutuu is just plain wolfy. She's made no progression on any read that makes any sense at all. Her primary on the record position is "Tim's a wolf because he might be" and she hasn't looked past that for...two weeks? So she makes a big deal about "the lion's awake now, lookout wolves" as soon as I suggest there is fuckery in the mech...and she's awake just long enough to say "yeah, Tim's still just a wolf" and goes back to sleep. With a string of reminders about how green checked she is, of course.

LC seems properly mystified by this game. Tutuu just wants it to end with her still alive.

[hollowkatt]

@Timsup2nothin you said something earlier about Kyle/Tutuu and ordering. Can you bring that back up?