Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[Timsup2nothin]

@Timsup2nothin you said something earlier about Kyle/Tutuu and ordering. Can you bring that back up?

A wolf Tutuu may have some role that clearly explains where Kyle got a bad green check. So seeing that role helps solve Kyle. Flipping Kyle either way doesn't really tell us about Tutuu. So Tutuu should flip first.

[Kylemii]

I'm literally never getting flipped unless I'm killed lol

[hollowkatt]

I'm literally never getting flipped unless I'm killed lol

not now, the old fogies are talking

[hollowkatt]

@Timsup2nothin you said something earlier about Kyle/Tutuu and ordering. Can you bring that back up?

A wolf Tutuu may have some role that clearly explains where Kyle got a bad green check. So seeing that role helps solve Kyle. Flipping Kyle either way doesn't really tell us about Tutuu. So Tutuu should flip first.

I'll mull that over then.

[hollowkatt]

I'm literally never getting flipped unless I'm killed lol

not now, the old fogies are talking

ok, i thought I had something more profound to say to Tim, I take that back lol

[Timsup2nothin]

I'm literally never getting flipped unless I'm killed lol

You know that Made saying he was bulletproof was a huge part of what got him shot right?

[Long Con]

I'm confused, why is Alison removed from the poll again and who did that?

Also, by my trustfall it's just Tutuu/Michelle like every time unless the wolf has me snowed, in which case it's Syn/Tim every time.

LC removed alison from the poll

ok, I missed that.

@Long Con why did you remove Alison from the poll?

Mainly because I don't want to chop her, based on a) my devotion to the Gambit Demon win based on the previous GD incarnation, b) my belief that she is not harmful to the town cause, c) she has given us some great tools to use, d) I want to yeet the last wolf, not a third party, and I still believe she's third party at this time.

[Kylemii]

Idt getting elton john'd is worth a clear on its own. of any of the powers the mafia has had it's pretty benign and jpic bringing it up could have been planting a seed for future credit.

by the same token baseball is also not indicative at all since the first two shots would never be harmful right?

[Long Con]

And I really hope that it IS the last wolf we're going for.

If there are two wolves left, then when is LYLO?

[Hyena]

Quick question: How did we find out that Made could self daykill via the curse? Was it during this dayphase, or was it during a previous dayphase?

[Hyena]

Quick question: How did we find out that Made could self daykill via the curse? Was it during this dayphase, or was it during a previous dayphase?

Also, if it was today, was it before or after we found out LC took Alison off the poll?

[hollowkatt]

Idt getting elton john'd is worth a clear on its own. of any of the powers the mafia has had it's pretty benign and jpic bringing it up could have been planting a seed for future credit.

by the same token baseball is also not indicative at all since the first two shots would never be harmful right?

I think the baseball actions/role are a red herring. It's functionally never killing a townie unless the ball thrower makes it to the end game yeah?
So anyone being "cleared" off of having a baseball thrown to them only isn't clear in my book.

[Kylemii]

I'm literally never getting flipped unless I'm killed lol

You know that Made saying he was bulletproof was a huge part of what got him shot right?

I mean if you want to create reasons for mafia to keep me alive until the endgame I'm cool with that but I mostly think it's unlikely to happen.

[Hyena]

This is tinfoil, but what if BOTH of Tim and LC are mafia? What if they were planning on Made being dead at the start of this day phase (from Tim's shot?) and have Alison off the poll so that they could potentially get another towny chopped? I mean... I guess it would me suboptimal to convince Made to self-blast himself, but maybe they still wanted to take advantage of Alison being off the polls today?

[Timsup2nothin]

Quick question: How did we find out that Made could self daykill via the curse? Was it during this dayphase, or was it during a previous dayphase?

He said it. Then I pointed out that if we chopped him, which at that point was inevitable, then the next kill went to the wolves, where if he blew himself out than the next kill went to the town...so unless he had a serious argument for getting out of the chop the town sided thing to do was just pull the plug. He agreed, apparently.

[Hyena]

This is tinfoil, but what if BOTH of Tim and LC are mafia? What if they were planning on Made being dead at the start of this day phase (from Tim's shot?) and have Alison off the poll so that they could potentially get another towny chopped? I mean... I guess it would me suboptimal to convince Made to self-blast himself, but maybe they still wanted to take advantage of Alison being off the polls today?

To clarify, what I'm tinfoiling is that Tim ended up talking Made into actually self-blasting himself after failing to kill him last night so that he and LC can still take advantage of the play they had potentially set up during the night (taking Alison off the poll so that someone else would get chopped over her, a 3p who could potentially work with them).

[Timsup2nothin]

This is tinfoil, but what if BOTH of Tim and LC are mafia? What if they were planning on Made being dead at the start of this day phase (from Tim's shot?) and have Alison off the poll so that they could potentially get another towny chopped? I mean... I guess it would me suboptimal to convince Made to self-blast himself, but maybe they still wanted to take advantage of Alison being off the polls today?

I think if me and LC were wolves we would look at such a plan and say "Eeeeeeh, Made says he's bulletproof, and we can chop him tomorrow for sure without implicating either of us. Let's use the extra shot on...anybody else." Like seriously if I was a wolf and knew Tutuu wasn't I'd have just said "she's green checked" and blasted her...or the annoying Syn who has tunneled me from day one...or fucking anyone but Made, really.

[Hyena]

This is tinfoil, but what if BOTH of Tim and LC are mafia? What if they were planning on Made being dead at the start of this day phase (from Tim's shot?) and have Alison off the poll so that they could potentially get another towny chopped? I mean... I guess it would me suboptimal to convince Made to self-blast himself, but maybe they still wanted to take advantage of Alison being off the polls today?

I think if me and LC were wolves we would look at such a plan and say "Eeeeeeh, Made says he's bulletproof, and we can chop him tomorrow for sure without implicating either of us. Let's use the extra shot on...anybody else." Like seriously if I was a wolf and knew Tutuu wasn't I'd have just said "she's green checked" and blasted her...or the annoying Syn who has tunneled me from day one...or fucking anyone but Made, really.

Oh, right, Made did claim bulletproof yesterday didn't he. Okay, I forgot about that part.

[Hyena]

This is tinfoil, but what if BOTH of Tim and LC are mafia? What if they were planning on Made being dead at the start of this day phase (from Tim's shot?) and have Alison off the poll so that they could potentially get another towny chopped? I mean... I guess it would me suboptimal to convince Made to self-blast himself, but maybe they still wanted to take advantage of Alison being off the polls today?

I think if me and LC were wolves we would look at such a plan and say "Eeeeeeh, Made says he's bulletproof, and we can chop him tomorrow for sure without implicating either of us. Let's use the extra shot on...anybody else." Like seriously if I was a wolf and knew Tutuu wasn't I'd have just said "she's green checked" and blasted her...or the annoying Syn who has tunneled me from day one...or fucking anyone but Made, really.

Oh, right, Made did claim bulletproof yesterday didn't he. Okay, I forgot about that part.

And on top of that, it looks like Made said he was cursed today? So, you couldn't have, like, planned to talk him into self-blasting himself if you had planned on shooting him but not killing him... unless, like, one of you two has the power to curse him?

[Hyena]

Wait, @Kylemii can confirm you can't curse anyone, right @Timsup2nothin? Since he stole your power to shoot Nanook that one night?

[Hyena]

wait so you think ted lied about forgetting to send in his busdrive target?

Is this aimed at me? ted didn't because he was tracked by LC

Wait...did Ted know he was gonna be tracked? Why in the world would w!Ted holster a bus drive?

lol, @Long Con, did you bus Ted?

[Hyena]

Okay, fine...no kill Kyle, but I'm just gonna kill made. Reading the thread yesterday it was like "if it isn't Wilgy it's Made" from top to bottom and side to side. I genuinely had no choice but to do the due diligent town vig thing and try to shoot him. If y'all go haring off in some wild new direction today just because he shrugged off a vig shot and had some confusing power interaction with Kyle you gotta go without me.


[VOTE: Made] aubergine

By the way, if you think w!Tim shot the only person who fully understood how town sided I have been all game long, get help. I didn't kill Radishes and I'm not a wolf. Period.

this is exactly what w!Tim would say

This is unfortunately true. I never say anything as town that isn't what I would say as a wolf, and vice versa. However, I would never have a chance to say it as a wolf, because it is true that as a wolf I would not have shot Radishes. I'd have shot someone less surely in my pocket with an ability that could cause me problems, like LC...and I wouldn't have fired my extra KP into the guy town is fixed on chopping.

Okay, I'm starting to see so many LC+Tim connections now.

[Timsup2nothin]

Wait, @Kylemii can confirm you can't curse anyone, right @Timsup2nothin? Since he stole your power to shoot Nanook that one night?

If I had a one shot curse power I wouldn't have used it on the guy who was next up for the mischop...and if it wasn't a one shot there'd be a whole lot of cursed people running around.

[Hyena]

@Long Con Did you "track" HK last night to try to help Tim pocket him?

[Hyena]

Wait, @Kylemii can confirm you can't curse anyone, right @Timsup2nothin? Since he stole your power to shoot Nanook that one night?

If I had a one shot curse power I wouldn't have used it on the guy who was next up for the mischop...and if it wasn't a one shot there'd be a whole lot of cursed people running around.

I think I believe you. I think in this scenario, LC would be the curser, not you.

[Long Con]

wait so you think ted lied about forgetting to send in his busdrive target?

Is this aimed at me? ted didn't because he was tracked by LC

Wait...did Ted know he was gonna be tracked? Why in the world would w!Ted holster a bus drive?

lol, @Long Con, did you bus Ted?

Ted didn't holster a busdrive, he targeted himself and Michelle. I suspect that me getting a ted result for the track might have been a host error, and the impetus for some game-balancing via Jack and Martin's day-deaths.

[Hyena]

Wait, @Kylemii can confirm you can't curse anyone, right @Timsup2nothin? Since he stole your power to shoot Nanook that one night?

If I had a one shot curse power I wouldn't have used it on the guy who was next up for the mischop...and if it wasn't a one shot there'd be a whole lot of cursed people running around.

I think I believe you. I think in this scenario, LC would be the curser, not you.

To clarify, I think you're being completely honest with your role, and I think Kyle even confirmed everything you said about your role. LC is the one I'm not sure about.

[Long Con]

Quick question: How did we find out that Made could self daykill via the curse? Was it during this dayphase, or was it during a previous dayphase?

Also, if it was today, was it before or after we found out LC took Alison off the poll?

I didn't know about it until after he was dead already. GTH I believe he revealed it during the same day he died.

[Timsup2nothin]

Okay, fine...no kill Kyle, but I'm just gonna kill made. Reading the thread yesterday it was like "if it isn't Wilgy it's Made" from top to bottom and side to side. I genuinely had no choice but to do the due diligent town vig thing and try to shoot him. If y'all go haring off in some wild new direction today just because he shrugged off a vig shot and had some confusing power interaction with Kyle you gotta go without me.


[VOTE: Made] aubergine

By the way, if you think w!Tim shot the only person who fully understood how town sided I have been all game long, get help. I didn't kill Radishes and I'm not a wolf. Period.

this is exactly what w!Tim would say

This is unfortunately true. I never say anything as town that isn't what I would say as a wolf, and vice versa. However, I would never have a chance to say it as a wolf, because it is true that as a wolf I would not have shot Radishes. I'd have shot someone less surely in my pocket with an ability that could cause me problems, like LC...and I wouldn't have fired my extra KP into the guy town is fixed on chopping.

Okay, I'm starting to see so many LC+Tim connections now.

All I did was mention that if I was a wolf I'd shoot the tracker. How is that a "connection"? Paranoia is a hard drug to shake Hyena.

[Hyena]

just in case kyle isn’t lying about being 3p (i couldn’t check tonight) then it has to be tutuu, don’t think it can be LC

question w/r/t this, i feel like you've theorized that i was 3p or indy or at least searching for something or someone since like day 2, did you check me to see if i was the space ship you're looking for

@Timsup2nothin What was the purpose of interacting with this post? Also, it's weird seeing Ted defending LC here.

[Hyena]

I actually don’t know how big the mafia team is rn, assuming 1-2 then it’s probably in the pool of tutuu / wilgy / idk who

tutuu is spewed town

if kyle is legit then he either hit a mafia in the lc / me / tutuu pool or he got redirected.

and reading tutuu’s last posts on me (page before this one) it kinda reads like her vote on me is for no reason, since she thinks i’m a 3p and not a mafia given kyle’s check

so then why vote for me over a wolf?

@Kylemii Can you go over again the thing about the pool of people you had that you said contained one scum and one town? What were the specifics of it? And who was in that pool again?

[Long Con]

I don't know if Kyle is around, but I remember how it works.

He targets one player a night until he has targeted at least one villager and one wolf. Then he gets notified that he has completed that task. He was notified of completion when he targeted ted on night 4.

I think the best concern surrounding this is the possibility of a Godfather-type role that would fool Kyle's ongoing parity check.

[hollowkatt]

This is tinfoil, but what if BOTH of Tim and LC are mafia? What if they were planning on Made being dead at the start of this day phase (from Tim's shot?) and have Alison off the poll so that they could potentially get another towny chopped? I mean... I guess it would me suboptimal to convince Made to self-blast himself, but maybe they still wanted to take advantage of Alison being off the polls today?

I think if me and LC were wolves we would look at such a plan and say "Eeeeeeh, Made says he's bulletproof, and we can chop him tomorrow for sure without implicating either of us. Let's use the extra shot on...anybody else." Like seriously if I was a wolf and knew Tutuu wasn't I'd have just said "she's green checked" and blasted her...or the annoying Syn who has tunneled me from day one...or fucking anyone but Made, really.

Why didn't you blast Tutuu? I don't recall you giving a strong town read there, or have I missed something yet again?

[Kylemii]

I actually don’t know how big the mafia team is rn, assuming 1-2 then it’s probably in the pool of tutuu / wilgy / idk who

tutuu is spewed town

if kyle is legit then he either hit a mafia in the lc / me / tutuu pool or he got redirected.

and reading tutuu’s last posts on me (page before this one) it kinda reads like her vote on me is for no reason, since she thinks i’m a 3p and not a mafia given kyle’s check

so then why vote for me over a wolf?

@Kylemii Can you go over again the thing about the pool of people you had that you said contained one scum and one town? What were the specifics of it? And who was in that pool again?

Falcon 1, LC 2, Tutuu 3, Ted 4
to unlock my stump power I needed to target and hit both a town and mafia and I only accomplished that after targeting Ted.

[Michelle]

wait so you think ted lied about forgetting to send in his busdrive target?

Is this aimed at me? ted didn't because he was tracked by LC

Wait...did Ted know he was gonna be tracked? Why in the world would w!Ted holster a bus drive?

lol, @Long Con, did you bus Ted?

Ted didn't holster a busdrive, he targeted himself and Michelle. I suspect that me getting a ted result for the track might have been a host error, and the impetus for some game-balancing via Jack and Martin's day-deaths.

Erm.. Jack and TSP

[Kylemii]

I also had to be quiet for a phase and avoid getting voted for a phase but those were easy breezy

[Kylemii]

and most importantly accomplished before my 2nd target

[Timsup2nothin]

just in case kyle isn’t lying about being 3p (i couldn’t check tonight) then it has to be tutuu, don’t think it can be LC

question w/r/t this, i feel like you've theorized that i was 3p or indy or at least searching for something or someone since like day 2, did you check me to see if i was the space ship you're looking for

@Timsup2nothin What was the purpose of interacting with this post? Also, it's weird seeing Ted defending LC here.

Because I thought it was hilarious to make fun of the way Kyle's response looked like just Jedi mind trick "move along now, nothing to see here."

[hollowkatt]

I actually don’t know how big the mafia team is rn, assuming 1-2 then it’s probably in the pool of tutuu / wilgy / idk who

tutuu is spewed town

if kyle is legit then he either hit a mafia in the lc / me / tutuu pool or he got redirected.

and reading tutuu’s last posts on me (page before this one) it kinda reads like her vote on me is for no reason, since she thinks i’m a 3p and not a mafia given kyle’s check

so then why vote for me over a wolf?

@Kylemii Can you go over again the thing about the pool of people you had that you said contained one scum and one town? What were the specifics of it? And who was in that pool again?

Falcon 1, LC 2, Tutuu 3, Ted 4
to unlock my stump power I needed to target and hit both a town and mafia and I only accomplished that after targeting Ted.

Falcon Town Confirmed via flip. Ted Scum Confirmed via Flip
LC/Tutuu by extension must be town OR 3p, cannot be scum UNLESS Kyle is lying, in which case Kyle + ONE of LC/Tutuu are wolves as townKyle never lies about this (I think..)

[Hyena]

I actually don’t know how big the mafia team is rn, assuming 1-2 then it’s probably in the pool of tutuu / wilgy / idk who

tutuu is spewed town

if kyle is legit then he either hit a mafia in the lc / me / tutuu pool or he got redirected.

and reading tutuu’s last posts on me (page before this one) it kinda reads like her vote on me is for no reason, since she thinks i’m a 3p and not a mafia given kyle’s check

so then why vote for me over a wolf?

@Kylemii Can you go over again the thing about the pool of people you had that you said contained one scum and one town? What were the specifics of it? And who was in that pool again?

Falcon 1, LC 2, Tutuu 3, Ted 4
to unlock my stump power I needed to target and hit both a town and mafia and I only accomplished that after targeting Ted.

Okay. So, since we know that Falcon is town and that Ted is scum, we know that neither LC nor Tutuu are mafia assuming no redirection/bus-driving shenanigans? In other words, the only way LC can be mafia right now is if you were redirected from LC to someone that was actually town?

[Kylemii]

I actually don’t know how big the mafia team is rn, assuming 1-2 then it’s probably in the pool of tutuu / wilgy / idk who

tutuu is spewed town

if kyle is legit then he either hit a mafia in the lc / me / tutuu pool or he got redirected.

and reading tutuu’s last posts on me (page before this one) it kinda reads like her vote on me is for no reason, since she thinks i’m a 3p and not a mafia given kyle’s check

so then why vote for me over a wolf?

@Kylemii Can you go over again the thing about the pool of people you had that you said contained one scum and one town? What were the specifics of it? And who was in that pool again?

Falcon 1, LC 2, Tutuu 3, Ted 4
to unlock my stump power I needed to target and hit both a town and mafia and I only accomplished that after targeting Ted.

Falcon Town Confirmed via flip. Ted Scum Confirmed via Flip
LC/Tutuu by extension must be town OR 3p, cannot be scum UNLESS Kyle is lying, in which case Kyle + ONE of LC/Tutuu are wolves as townKyle never lies about this (I think..)

Correct, unless my targeting was altered or prevented

[Michelle]

I woke up and caught up but i have to go back to sleep.

Probably sleeping on my ideas can be more useful than trying to express them at 5 am

[Kylemii]

I actually don’t know how big the mafia team is rn, assuming 1-2 then it’s probably in the pool of tutuu / wilgy / idk who

tutuu is spewed town

if kyle is legit then he either hit a mafia in the lc / me / tutuu pool or he got redirected.

and reading tutuu’s last posts on me (page before this one) it kinda reads like her vote on me is for no reason, since she thinks i’m a 3p and not a mafia given kyle’s check

so then why vote for me over a wolf?

@Kylemii Can you go over again the thing about the pool of people you had that you said contained one scum and one town? What were the specifics of it? And who was in that pool again?

Falcon 1, LC 2, Tutuu 3, Ted 4
to unlock my stump power I needed to target and hit both a town and mafia and I only accomplished that after targeting Ted.

Okay. So, since we know that Falcon is town and that Ted is scum, we know that neither LC nor Tutuu are mafia assuming no redirection/bus-driving shenanigans? In other words, the only way LC can be mafia right now is if you were redirected from LC to someone that was actually town?

redirected or blocked

[Timsup2nothin]

This is tinfoil, but what if BOTH of Tim and LC are mafia? What if they were planning on Made being dead at the start of this day phase (from Tim's shot?) and have Alison off the poll so that they could potentially get another towny chopped? I mean... I guess it would me suboptimal to convince Made to self-blast himself, but maybe they still wanted to take advantage of Alison being off the polls today?

I think if me and LC were wolves we would look at such a plan and say "Eeeeeeh, Made says he's bulletproof, and we can chop him tomorrow for sure without implicating either of us. Let's use the extra shot on...anybody else." Like seriously if I was a wolf and knew Tutuu wasn't I'd have just said "she's green checked" and blasted her...or the annoying Syn who has tunneled me from day one...or fucking anyone but Made, really.

Why didn't you blast Tutuu? I don't recall you giving a strong town read there, or have I missed something yet again?

For the same reason I told Made he should just blow himself out. With Made alive this phase was totally worthless. As the vig shooting him was literally my one job. Taking the hero shot on Tutuu would be great only if it was right. I fucked that up once as a vig, and I learn from my mistakes.

[Hyena]

I actually don’t know how big the mafia team is rn, assuming 1-2 then it’s probably in the pool of tutuu / wilgy / idk who

tutuu is spewed town

if kyle is legit then he either hit a mafia in the lc / me / tutuu pool or he got redirected.

and reading tutuu’s last posts on me (page before this one) it kinda reads like her vote on me is for no reason, since she thinks i’m a 3p and not a mafia given kyle’s check

so then why vote for me over a wolf?

@Kylemii Can you go over again the thing about the pool of people you had that you said contained one scum and one town? What were the specifics of it? And who was in that pool again?

Falcon 1, LC 2, Tutuu 3, Ted 4
to unlock my stump power I needed to target and hit both a town and mafia and I only accomplished that after targeting Ted.

Okay. So, since we know that Falcon is town and that Ted is scum, we know that neither LC nor Tutuu are mafia assuming no redirection/bus-driving shenanigans? In other words, the only way LC can be mafia right now is if you were redirected from LC to someone that was actually town?

redirected or blocked

Alright, alright. Thanks.

[Kylemii]

Wait, @Kylemii can confirm you can't curse anyone, right @Timsup2nothin? Since he stole your power to shoot Nanook that one night?

I can only confirm that Tim can kill lol. If he has the option to curse as well, he didn't have that option on the night I visited him

[Hyena]

This is tinfoil, but what if BOTH of Tim and LC are mafia? What if they were planning on Made being dead at the start of this day phase (from Tim's shot?) and have Alison off the poll so that they could potentially get another towny chopped? I mean... I guess it would me suboptimal to convince Made to self-blast himself, but maybe they still wanted to take advantage of Alison being off the polls today?

I think if me and LC were wolves we would look at such a plan and say "Eeeeeeh, Made says he's bulletproof, and we can chop him tomorrow for sure without implicating either of us. Let's use the extra shot on...anybody else." Like seriously if I was a wolf and knew Tutuu wasn't I'd have just said "she's green checked" and blasted her...or the annoying Syn who has tunneled me from day one...or fucking anyone but Made, really.

Why didn't you blast Tutuu? I don't recall you giving a strong town read there, or have I missed something yet again?

For the same reason I told Made he should just blow himself out. With Made alive this phase was totally worthless. As the vig shooting him was literally my one job. Taking the hero shot on Tutuu would be great only if it was right. I fucked that up once as a vig, and I learn from my mistakes.

Made claimed bulletproof yesterday though, right? If he was telling the truth from your PoV, he was never dying in the night, right?

[Hyena]

Wait, @Kylemii can confirm you can't curse anyone, right @Timsup2nothin? Since he stole your power to shoot Nanook that one night?

I can only confirm that Tim can kill lol. If he has the option to curse as well, he didn't have that option on the night I visited him

Alright. LC would be more likely to be the curser in the scenario I'm imagining right now. Granted, I don't have any concrete evidence of that.

[Long Con]

I actually don’t know how big the mafia team is rn, assuming 1-2 then it’s probably in the pool of tutuu / wilgy / idk who

tutuu is spewed town

if kyle is legit then he either hit a mafia in the lc / me / tutuu pool or he got redirected.

and reading tutuu’s last posts on me (page before this one) it kinda reads like her vote on me is for no reason, since she thinks i’m a 3p and not a mafia given kyle’s check

so then why vote for me over a wolf?

@Kylemii Can you go over again the thing about the pool of people you had that you said contained one scum and one town? What were the specifics of it? And who was in that pool again?

Falcon 1, LC 2, Tutuu 3, Ted 4
to unlock my stump power I needed to target and hit both a town and mafia and I only accomplished that after targeting Ted.

Okay. So, since we know that Falcon is town and that Ted is scum, we know that neither LC nor Tutuu are mafia assuming no redirection/bus-driving shenanigans? In other words, the only way LC can be mafia right now is if you were redirected from LC to someone that was actually town?

Or the Godfather angle.

wait so you think ted lied about forgetting to send in his busdrive target?

Is this aimed at me? ted didn't because he was tracked by LC

Wait...did Ted know he was gonna be tracked? Why in the world would w!Ted holster a bus drive?

lol, @Long Con, did you bus Ted?

Ted didn't holster a busdrive, he targeted himself and Michelle. I suspect that me getting a ted result for the track might have been a host error, and the impetus for some game-balancing via Jack and Martin's day-deaths.

Erm.. Jack and TSP

Thank you!

[Long Con]

Wait, @Kylemii can confirm you can't curse anyone, right @Timsup2nothin? Since he stole your power to shoot Nanook that one night?

I can only confirm that Tim can kill lol. If he has the option to curse as well, he didn't have that option on the night I visited him

Alright. LC would be more likely to be the curser in the scenario I'm imagining right now. Granted, I don't have any concrete evidence of that.

Note that I would then have started with the ability to remove a player from the poll, and to curse.