Magic the Gathering Mafia - Game Over - Mafia has won!

[Long Con]

Marmot, that Nicol Bolas thing was literally all there in the quotes.

[Marmot]

I'm here but I've not really wanted to participate in thread too much

it's just messy

The thread is too messy?

when I have been trying to read the thread at other times people were all getting mad at falcon and he was getting mad back

guillo was doing his thing lol

marmot was literally wolf claiming for wifom reasons which is just awful

etc

I have 100 posts, and you're scumreading me for deliberate wifom?

no

read the question asked to me to understand my answer

I would prefer if you explain it to me like I'm 5.

someone asked me why I said the thread was messy and I wasn't too enthusiastic about participating in it

it's not about my read on you

You did state that you wouldn't mind yeeting me today. I presume that means you have some amount of scumread on me, and I'm trying to figure out what it is. Can you explain it?

[Marmot]

Marmot, that Nicol Bolas thing was literally all there in the quotes.

I'm trying to figure out her stance on me, which is why I asked.

[Justplayingitcool]

I don't think that falcon is mafia. I think his posting style is slightly combative, but I have an easy time following his thought process and understanding the reasoning behind his reads, even if some of the interactions with Guillotine and Kyle are a little silly.

On the other hand, I feel that tedxtr isn't trying to solve the game. When I questioned him on his reasons for voting for LC, he couldn't come up with anything, which is fine if it was a misunderstanding, but he hasn't moved his vote. He also hasn't attempted to push or question anyone else. I get the feeling he is on the defensive due to the pressure on him.
I also didn't love his justification around 3-mana-gate, it felt like the nervous response of someone caught in a lie.

[VOTE: tedextr] aubergine

calling people dumb/stupid is also really triggering for me and it feels like a last resort. if kyle is so bad, there are way better ways to show it. i don't think someone being aggressive is a town-tell, i've learned that the hard way recently on TS.

tedxtr: the whole "i misunderstood something something it's all fine now" to his only read in the game without clarifying stuff is another reason i think he's bad. i dont see any inquisition from him and it's more retracting suspicion or laying low and something i feel mafia ted would resort to if he was catching heat early for a potential "slip" maybe.

i think i like both wagons atp in the thread.

Generally I feel that personal attacks are a scum-tell. I think it's seen as a simple way to fake emotion (oh i'm so angry that i'm gonna call you a poopoo head!).

I am also ok with both wagons. I've backed off of ted but I'm still fine with him being yeeted. We'll see what happens at EoD.

I'm out of time to catch up, I have to run out and won't be back home for a while. I should be able to get a vote in if necessary (and if I remember).

in my experience, personal attacks can come from town - I know because I have been on the receiving end of some of them. It shouldn't be in the game but it is what it is. Think it depends on the context and tone, I guess

[Epignosis]

falcon is pretty obviously town and he's been getting scum read by people for the worst reasons

What are some of these worst reasons?

mostly people having minor problems with some of his reads when not paying attention to everything else he's doing that is towny

I have reflected on falcon's posts.

Most of his opinions are dubious and shoddy. The logic in his posts is a stretch. Many of the posts are aggressive reactions that have little follow up. I mean no offense- that's my assessment.

Yet does any of that matter? No. The question I have to ask myself is, "Does Falcon really believe this stuff?"

And you know what? A part of me believes he does. That's enough to move on elsewhere, and besides that, the fact that Falcon clearly does not have a lid or a filter (in the sense that he's spitting out whatever comes to mind in the moment) makes Falcon a piss poor Day 1 vote at this stage.

I would argue ted is a bad Day 1 vote too.

[Epignosis]

Can people stop worrying about the damn mana? Everyone is going to do what they want to with it anyway.

If your discussion does nothing to help you get a sense if the person you are talking to is trying to banish you to the Spine of the World, what are you having it for?

The mana discussion is part of the reason I am voting Made. You're being theatrically obstinate, why?

Hello, I'm Epignosis.

[Kylemii]

Null on Epi

I think kyle is wolfy for having so many posts but not a lot of content. basically, I'd shoot kyle of the two

this is not our first game together

jpic you should know based on your prior experience playing with me that I am very whimsical and cool

[Nicol Bolas]

The thread is too messy?

when I have been trying to read the thread at other times people were all getting mad at falcon and he was getting mad back

guillo was doing his thing lol

marmot was literally wolf claiming for wifom reasons which is just awful

etc

I have 100 posts, and you're scumreading me for deliberate wifom?

no

read the question asked to me to understand my answer

I would prefer if you explain it to me like I'm 5.

someone asked me why I said the thread was messy and I wasn't too enthusiastic about participating in it

it's not about my read on you

You did state that you wouldn't mind yeeting me today. I presume that means you have some amount of scumread on me, and I'm trying to figure out what it is. Can you explain it?

your reads are meh and you feel different to your usual town game

[Long Con]

falcon is pretty obviously town and he's been getting scum read by people for the worst reasons

What are some of these worst reasons?

mostly people having minor problems with some of his reads when not paying attention to everything else he's doing that is towny

I have reflected on falcon's posts.

Most of his opinions are dubious and shoddy. The logic in his posts is a stretch. Many of the posts are aggressive reactions that have little follow up. I mean no offense- that's my assessment.

Yet does any of that matter? No. The question I have to ask myself is, "Does Falcon really believe this stuff?"

And you know what? A part of me believes he does. That's enough to move on elsewhere, and besides that, the fact that Falcon clearly does not have a lid or a filter (in the sense that he's spitting out whatever comes to mind in the moment) makes Falcon a piss poor Day 1 vote at this stage.

I would argue ted is a bad Day 1 vote too.

For the same reason?

[Kylemii]

I won't be able to post as much as I hope in the last hour, cus of work stuff. Ping me if you need anything, I'll try to be around at eod, and I'll catch up in what I missed during the night

[Long Con]

Null on Epi

I think kyle is wolfy for having so many posts but not a lot of content. basically, I'd shoot kyle of the two

this is not our first game together

jpic you should know based on your prior experience playing with me that I am very whimsical and cool

Kyle is very whimsical and cool.

You find it hard to keep that up as a baddie, Kyle?

[Marmot]

your reads are meh and you feel different to your usual town game

That is my usual town game.

[Long Con]

I won't be able to post as much as I hope in the last hour, cus of work stuff. Ping me if you need anything, I'll try to be around at eod, and I'll catch up in what I missed during the night

Ok cool. I don't think you're in danger out there.

[Epignosis]

Can people stop worrying about the damn mana? Everyone is going to do what they want to with it anyway.

If your discussion does nothing to help you get a sense if the person you are talking to is trying to banish you to the Spine of the World, what are you having it for?

The mana discussion is part of the reason I am voting Made. You're being theatrically obstinate, why?

wolfy probably

No. I specifically said "if your discussion..."

LC claims his discussion with Made helped him form an opinion on Made. Therefore what I said didn't apply to him.

I'm tired of reading post after post about mana this and mana that when I'm trying to destroy evildoers.

[Long Con]

your reads are meh and you feel different to your usual town game

That is my usual town game.

I always like to play different than my usual.

[Justplayingitcool]

Null on Epi

I think kyle is wolfy for having so many posts but not a lot of content. basically, I'd shoot kyle of the two

this is not our first game together

jpic you should know based on your prior experience playing with me that I am very whimsical and cool

I suppose I could do the burglary play and claim cop and yeet my partner to win in f3 again

ain't that right @dunya

[Long Con]

Can people stop worrying about the damn mana? Everyone is going to do what they want to with it anyway.

If your discussion does nothing to help you get a sense if the person you are talking to is trying to banish you to the Spine of the World, what are you having it for?

The mana discussion is part of the reason I am voting Made. You're being theatrically obstinate, why?

wolfy probably

No. I specifically said "if your discussion..."

LC claims his discussion with Made helped him form an opinion on Made. Therefore what I said didn't apply to him.

I'm tired of reading post after post about mana this and mana that when I'm trying to destroy evildoers.

Acceptable.

[hollowkatt]

Can people stop worrying about the damn mana? Everyone is going to do what they want to with it anyway.

If your discussion does nothing to help you get a sense if the person you are talking to is trying to banish you to the Spine of the World, what are you having it for?

The mana discussion is part of the reason I am voting Made. You're being theatrically obstinate, why?

wolfy probably

No. I specifically said "if your discussion..."

LC claims his discussion with Made helped him form an opinion on Made. Therefore what I said didn't apply to him.

I'm tired of reading post after post about mana this and mana that when I'm trying to destroy evildoers.

I was merely replying about the theatrically obstinate.
The mana discussions are integral to the wolf read I have on Ted. Like fundamental to the case. So you can be tired of reading about them all you want I guess?

[Epignosis]

falcon is pretty obviously town and he's been getting scum read by people for the worst reasons

What are some of these worst reasons?

mostly people having minor problems with some of his reads when not paying attention to everything else he's doing that is towny

I have reflected on falcon's posts.

Most of his opinions are dubious and shoddy. The logic in his posts is a stretch. Many of the posts are aggressive reactions that have little follow up. I mean no offense- that's my assessment.

Yet does any of that matter? No. The question I have to ask myself is, "Does Falcon really believe this stuff?"

And you know what? A part of me believes he does. That's enough to move on elsewhere, and besides that, the fact that Falcon clearly does not have a lid or a filter (in the sense that he's spitting out whatever comes to mind in the moment) makes Falcon a piss poor Day 1 vote at this stage.

I would argue ted is a bad Day 1 vote too.

For the same reason?

More so that ted's frustration sounds genuine in that he feels he's getting needlessly shat on early on when by his own admission he doesn't really get cooking until a little later.

I would not call ted a civilian at this stage, but I would call him a bad Day 1 lynch. I won't be voting there myself.

[Long Con]

falcon is pretty obviously town and he's been getting scum read by people for the worst reasons

What are some of these worst reasons?

mostly people having minor problems with some of his reads when not paying attention to everything else he's doing that is towny

I have reflected on falcon's posts.

Most of his opinions are dubious and shoddy. The logic in his posts is a stretch. Many of the posts are aggressive reactions that have little follow up. I mean no offense- that's my assessment.

Yet does any of that matter? No. The question I have to ask myself is, "Does Falcon really believe this stuff?"

And you know what? A part of me believes he does. That's enough to move on elsewhere, and besides that, the fact that Falcon clearly does not have a lid or a filter (in the sense that he's spitting out whatever comes to mind in the moment) makes Falcon a piss poor Day 1 vote at this stage.

I would argue ted is a bad Day 1 vote too.

For the same reason?

More so that ted's frustration sounds genuine in that he feels he's getting needlessly shat on early on when by his own admission he doesn't really get cooking until a little later.

I would not call ted a civilian at this stage, but I would call him a bad Day 1 lynch. I won't be voting there myself.

I touched on that earlier, I sympathize with it because it's my usual way as well.

[Epignosis]

Can people stop worrying about the damn mana? Everyone is going to do what they want to with it anyway.

If your discussion does nothing to help you get a sense if the person you are talking to is trying to banish you to the Spine of the World, what are you having it for?

The mana discussion is part of the reason I am voting Made. You're being theatrically obstinate, why?

wolfy probably

No. I specifically said "if your discussion..."

LC claims his discussion with Made helped him form an opinion on Made. Therefore what I said didn't apply to him.

I'm tired of reading post after post about mana this and mana that when I'm trying to destroy evildoers.

I was merely replying about the theatrically obstinate.
The mana discussions are integral to the wolf read I have on Ted. Like fundamental to the case. So you can be tired of reading about them all you want I guess?

I'm grumpy because of work shit and I'm only on my first beer.

Everyone talk about whatever you wish.

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: JustPlayingitCool] aubergine

[hollowkatt]

Can people stop worrying about the damn mana? Everyone is going to do what they want to with it anyway.

If your discussion does nothing to help you get a sense if the person you are talking to is trying to banish you to the Spine of the World, what are you having it for?

The mana discussion is part of the reason I am voting Made. You're being theatrically obstinate, why?

wolfy probably

No. I specifically said "if your discussion..."

LC claims his discussion with Made helped him form an opinion on Made. Therefore what I said didn't apply to him.

I'm tired of reading post after post about mana this and mana that when I'm trying to destroy evildoers.

I was merely replying about the theatrically obstinate.
The mana discussions are integral to the wolf read I have on Ted. Like fundamental to the case. So you can be tired of reading about them all you want I guess?

I'm grumpy because of work shit and I'm only on my first beer.

Everyone talk about whatever you wish.

I'm sorry, I got snippy when it wasn't called for. I felt like you were being needlessly dismissive and I should have phrased it that way instead.

[Made]

Yeah, okay so it’s still an airy read, but falcon just reads off this game. Like love my dude, but he’s reading off in a way that No one else is from my POV. It reads very self aware in a way Im not use to seeing from falcon, it’s my best shot tho.

some people are saying Over Confident Ballsy Falcon is what makes him town. is that not your experience with him?

It’s not the over confidence, that’s normal. it’s the intentionality for me. He’s not very shifty this game, which seems safe to me

is town falcon a hedgy player?

I think he’s easily to get misconstrued as hedgy generally. I have no experience with his baddie game

[dunya]

your reads are meh and you feel different to your usual town game

how many town games have you played with marmot to make that assertion tbh?

this started out as game is messy cos marmot is posting wifom things, gets asked about it says she isn't actively scum reading but answering the question, to what feels like actively scum reading?

[dunya]

wow i finally refresh and everyone disappears. cool.

[Marmot]

I'm still here posting wifom things.

[dunya]

flash wagon me to freedom

[Epignosis]

wow i finally refresh and everyone disappears. cool.

I'm here but I'm busy with you.

[Nicol Bolas]

your reads are meh and you feel different to your usual town game

how many town games have you played with marmot to make that assertion tbh?

this started out as game is messy cos marmot is posting wifom things, gets asked about it says she isn't actively scum reading but answering the question, to what feels like actively scum reading?

I said the post in question wasn't related to my read on marmot

and I've played enough with him

[Epignosis]

That...

I knew as soon as I hit submit that wasn't going to come out right.

[Marmot]

your reads are meh and you feel different to your usual town game

how many town games have you played with marmot to make that assertion tbh?

this started out as game is messy cos marmot is posting wifom things, gets asked about it says she isn't actively scum reading but answering the question, to what feels like actively scum reading?

I said the post in question wasn't related to my read on marmot

and I've played enough with him

Why are you voting for DrWilgy?

[dunya]

wow i finally refresh and everyone disappears. cool.

I'm here but I'm busy with you.

[Marmot]

That...

I knew as soon as I hit submit that wasn't going to come out right.

It's not like you to question a post like that.

[Made]

Sorry I’m at the drive through of Taco Bell. Anything y’all need comments on? At this point I’m cool with a sub optimal Ted chop and handling marmot tomorrow based on that

[hollowkatt]

Sorry I’m at the drive through of Taco Bell. Anything y’all need comments on? At this point I’m cool with a sub optimal Ted chop and handling marmot tomorrow based on that

baja blast and a crunchy taco please.

[Long Con]

Sorry I’m at the drive through of Taco Bell. Anything y’all need comments on? At this point I’m cool with a sub optimal Ted chop and handling marmot tomorrow based on that

So... ted's town and Marmot is tomorrow's yeet?

[Marmot]

[VOTE: Nicol Bolas] aubergine

Who wants to flash-wagon Nicol?

[Marmot]

Sorry I’m at the drive through of Taco Bell. Anything y’all need comments on? At this point I’m cool with a sub optimal Ted chop and handling marmot tomorrow based on that

What handling are you talking about here?

[Made]

Sorry I’m at the drive through of Taco Bell. Anything y’all need comments on? At this point I’m cool with a sub optimal Ted chop and handling marmot tomorrow based on that

So... ted's town and Marmot is tomorrow's yeet?

That’s where my head is at, yeah. Thoughts?

[Made]

Sorry I’m at the drive through of Taco Bell. Anything y’all need comments on? At this point I’m cool with a sub optimal Ted chop and handling marmot tomorrow based on that

What handling are you talking about here?

To be clear u scum read Ted right?

[Marmot]

Sorry I’m at the drive through of Taco Bell. Anything y’all need comments on? At this point I’m cool with a sub optimal Ted chop and handling marmot tomorrow based on that

What handling are you talking about here?

To be clear u scum read Ted right?

No, never really have.

[hollowkatt]

[VOTE: Nicol Bolas] aubergine

Who wants to flash-wagon Nicol?

yeah sure
[VOTE: Nicol Bolas] aubergine

[Made]

No you don’t.

Recalculating.

[hollowkatt]

eh, kinda I do tho

[Made]

This is tough. Imma sleep on it. Fingers crossed Ted is just bad here [VOTE: Ted] aubergine

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: Nicol Bolas] aubergine

[Urist]

[VOTE: Nicol Bolas] aubergine

Who wants to flash-wagon Nicol?

Terrible

[Marmot]

eh, kinda I do tho

I looked through her iso, you and I are the only to players she's mentioned an inkling of a scumread on that I could find (and yours came on Day 0). And yet, she's voting DrWilgy right now.

Much of her contributions to the game have been around mech discussions and mana strategies. I don't see a hunting mindset.

[hollowkatt]

[VOTE: Nicol Bolas] aubergine

Who wants to flash-wagon Nicol?

Terrible

highly doubt you're getting marmot today