Game of Champions 2020 [ENDGAME]

[Hyena]

Also, i think the kill confirms LC even further? Like, i was kinda surprised HK was the nk but then remembered he had the track to confirm himself. Can’t kill LC due to the protect from alison

Really expected a dizzy nk tbh

I expected that too. But not from Hyena or Michelle. I don't think they really get why I'm confirmed town. I told Alison to protect either me or LC (but she probably wouldn't protect me, since I've been rather critical towards her role and wincon lol)

Yeah, I wouldn't kill you. I also wouldn't kill Hollowkatt though, because he townread me. :P

[Justplayingitcool]

Also yeah I don’t even want to try and figure out why tutuu is hidden and not dizzy

[Dyslexicon]

Yeah, I wouldn't kill you. I also wouldn't kill Hollowkatt though, because he townread me. :P

See. This is why I didn't block you lol.

[Dyslexicon]

Also yeah I don’t even want to try and figure out why tutuu is hidden and not dizzy

I was totally going into *totally not tinfoiling Tutu still*, but then I realized it doesn't matter, cause we can't vote her anyway yay

[Justplayingitcool]

It’s preety much the same bullshit that we tried to figure out with wilgy and his rolecop

[Hyena]

Maybe y'all should have listened to my initial read on Wilgy and just agreed that he was town instead of chopping him because of mechanics. :P

[Syn]

@Syn Who is scum?

I feel like I should be asking you that

I'll give my answer soon enough. I've narrowed it down to you/Hyena/Michelle, and I'm leaning ...maybe Michelle?

*gazes meaningfully at list*

fuck that syn guy

idk i guess michelle, she's been most cagey all game and has coasted on a tutuu rampage for a month

and i also said michelle yesterday when someone asked me where i was going after tim

... think it was hyena who asked me lol

[Dyslexicon]

It’s preety much the same bullshit that we tried to figure out with wilgy and his rolecop

Unless LC is lying, and Ted switched Michelle and I.
And he did target Tutu out of the poll.
But that also makes about 0 % sense.
I'd rather not think about it tbh.

[Justplayingitcool]

tbf wilgy had an incredibly wolfy role

Town turning people into mafia flips ffs

[Dyslexicon]

Maybe y'all should have listened to my initial read on Wilgy and just agreed that he was town instead of chopping him because of mechanics. :P

Yes, but if you are town, we need to figure out this together. So maybe you should learn why me and jpic are confirmed town and help hunt actual scum, how about that?

[Dyslexicon]

tbf wilgy had an incredibly wolfy role

Town turning people into mafia flips ffs

Also, it was wilgy, a fountain of creativity. So I thought if anyone could make up weird as fuck shit on the fly it would be him. Trust him to get the weirdest fucking role in the game though.

[Dyslexicon]

I still think it's actually possible we just have to yeet Alison. Is that bad?

[Dyslexicon]

What if Ted fought so hard because he was the last mafia?

[Justplayingitcool]

It’s preety much the same bullshit that we tried to figure out with wilgy and his rolecop

Unless LC is lying, and Ted switched Michelle and I.
And he did target Tutu out of the poll.
But that also makes about 0 % sense.
I'd rather not think about it tbh.

I’m not tinfoiling LC atm due to the kill last night and confirming HK. He was also the final nail in the coffin for ted, at least from my perspective which is what convinced me

[Dyslexicon]

I'm at this: Michelle is mafia or nobody is mafia.

[Hyena]

Maybe y'all should have listened to my initial read on Wilgy and just agreed that he was town instead of chopping him because of mechanics. :P

Yes, but if you are town, we need to figure out this together. So maybe you should learn why me and jpic are confirmed town and help hunt actual scum, how about that?

Here's what I think. I think you guys have wanted to focus so much on mechanics because all the mechanical info that we know of points to you two being town. That same mechanical info pointed to one of Wilgy or Made being scum, yet BOTH of them flipped town.

[Dyslexicon]

I'm at this: Michelle is mafia or nobody is mafia.

Or Hyena is =p

Also, I'm not even here now. Will be back later. Tomorrow if I'm able to concentrate on work now.

[Dyslexicon]

Here's what I think. I think you guys have wanted to focus so much on mechanics because all the mechanical info that we know of points to you two being town. That same mechanical info pointed to one of Wilgy or Made being scum, yet BOTH of them flipped town.

Oh my god. Let it fucking go.

[Hyena]

And here's another non-mechanical reason I'm town. On the day Ted was revealed to actually be mafia, do you really think I defend Wilgy when he's the 2nd leading wagon and Ted is still just a claimed 3P? Why don't I just stay on Wilgy and continue pushing on him to help protect Ted if he's my scumbuddy?

[Hyena]

Here's what I think. I think you guys have wanted to focus so much on mechanics because all the mechanical info that we know of points to you two being town. That same mechanical info pointed to one of Wilgy or Made being scum, yet BOTH of them flipped town.

Oh my god. Let it fucking go.

No.

[Long Con]

Hi. I tried giving a BTSC to Hollowkatt with Tim. :<

He's got it, buddy. *tear falls* he's got it...

There is no mistake in the poll.

So wtf. @Long Con ?

I have also confirmed this.

[Justplayingitcool]

Hi Hyena I acknowledge you've made a post about me

[Hyena]

@Syn @Long Con Do you two trust me?

[Dyslexicon]

Here's what I think. I think you guys have wanted to focus so much on mechanics because all the mechanical info that we know of points to you two being town. That same mechanical info pointed to one of Wilgy or Made being scum, yet BOTH of them flipped town.

1. Holy shit are you actually for real.
2. Even Wilgy and Made understood why the mech looked like they were scum. Made even self destructed because of that, because they understood why they had to die. OF COURSE we would think that when we are town. I'm more interested in why you didn't care at all. That's 100000x more scummy. Please explain why you haven't cared.
3. It's not "that same mechanical info" that clears either me or jpic. It's very different info. In fact, all mech is individual pieces of info. Like Jack's cop for example. That is mech, and we have used it for solving. That is how we use mech in games. Obviously. It gets confusing when roles are weird and messy, and sure mech can trip us over and clearly has, but one piece of mech tripping us up is not a reason to render all useless without looking at it. In fact, only scum would have a reason not to look at it, because they know everything from before.
4. If you're going to argue that one of us is scum you have to argue that we both are. I used a block on jpic tonight. He did not make the kill. If you're going to try to argue that I will seriously take it as a scum claim.

[Justplayingitcool]

I’m mech cleared and so is dizzy from my PoV

Nothing stopping me now baby!

[Syn]

@Syn @Long Con Do you two trust me?

not really

[Dyslexicon]

And here's another non-mechanical reason I'm town. On the day Ted was revealed to actually be mafia, do you really think I defend Wilgy when he's the 2nd leading wagon and Ted is still just a claimed 3P? Why don't I just stay on Wilgy and continue pushing on him to help protect Ted if he's my scumbuddy?

Well then look at my fucking reaction to Ted and my whole god damn play in this game for once. I literally argued we should kill Ted, not because he was mafia, but because I actually believed he was 3p. I thought he likely wasn't mafia because it would just be so stupid (sorry not sorry) to claim 3p as mafia, cause why the fuck would you think that would save you?

[Hyena]

Here's what I think. I think you guys have wanted to focus so much on mechanics because all the mechanical info that we know of points to you two being town. That same mechanical info pointed to one of Wilgy or Made being scum, yet BOTH of them flipped town.

1. Holy shit are you actually for real.
2. Even Wilgy and Made understood why the mech looked like they were scum. Made even self destructed because of that, because they understood why they had to die. OF COURSE we would think that when we are town. I'm more interested in why you didn't care at all. That's 100000x more scummy. Please explain why you haven't cared.
3. It's not "that same mechanical info" that clears either me or jpic. It's very different info. In fact, all mech is individual pieces of info. Like Jack's cop for example. That is mech, and we have used it for solving. That is how we use mech in games. Obviously. It gets confusing when roles are weird and messy, and sure mech can trip us over and clearly has, but one piece of mech tripping us up is not a reason to render all useless without looking at it. In fact, only scum would have a reason not to look at it, because they know everything from before.
4. If you're going to argue that one of us is scum you have to argue that we both are. I used a block on jpic tonight. He did not make the kill. If you're going to try to argue that I will seriously take it as a scum claim.

I don't really care if you take it as a scum claim. My gut has been telling me stuff. Today it's still telling me that one of you could be scum and that if you are, you came into today planning to try to chop me, which is why Hollowkatt was killed. Also, if Long Con didn't take Tutuu off the poll, then I'm assuming scum did, either because Tutuu is scum herself, or because again, scum wanted to come after me today rather than Tutuu for god knows what reason.

[Hyena]

And here's another non-mechanical reason I'm town. On the day Ted was revealed to actually be mafia, do you really think I defend Wilgy when he's the 2nd leading wagon and Ted is still just a claimed 3P? Why don't I just stay on Wilgy and continue pushing on him to help protect Ted if he's my scumbuddy?

Well then look at my fucking reaction to Ted and my whole god damn play in this game for once. I literally argued we should kill Ted, not because he was mafia, but because I actually believed he was 3p. I thought he likely wasn't mafia because it would just be so stupid (sorry not sorry) to claim 3p as mafia, cause why the fuck would you think that would save you?

Why didn't you want to chop 112 the 2nd and final day she became the leading wagon? You kept saying you got "cold feet" until 112 did revealed that she was 3P. It felt very similar to what you were saying about Tim just yesterday. It felt like you wanted town cred for when you thought they were gonna flip town. In 112's case, you didn't realize 112 3P, and the moment she did claim it, you were all for chopping her. Why didn't you ever want to chop Alison when she claimed 3P too?

[Dyslexicon]

I don't really care if you take it as a scum claim. My gut has been telling me stuff. Today it's still telling me that one of you could be scum and that if you are, you came into today planning to try to chop me, which is why Hollowkatt was killed. Also, if Long Con didn't take Tutuu off the poll, then I'm assuming scum did, either because Tutuu is scum herself, or because again, scum wanted to come after me today rather than Tutuu for god knows what reason.

I couldn't care less about your so called gut. You don't know me at all. I'm confirmed town. It's not hard to understand. Literally every town that has flipped who actually know me and have played with me many times have fully town read me both on play and mech alike. If you are town, you are committed to being wrong on a pure fixation. I suggest you check that.

What are you even on about? Are you saying me, jpic AND tutu are scum now? What planet are you living on?

This conversation is not productive cause I'm getting worked up. But holy shit.

[Justplayingitcool]

You can’t compare the 112 yeet with alison

Alison straight up claimed 3p day 1. 112 revealed they were 3p 5 mins before their yeet. There was no motivation to move

[Hyena]

I don't really care if you take it as a scum claim. My gut has been telling me stuff. Today it's still telling me that one of you could be scum and that if you are, you came into today planning to try to chop me, which is why Hollowkatt was killed. Also, if Long Con didn't take Tutuu off the poll, then I'm assuming scum did, either because Tutuu is scum herself, or because again, scum wanted to come after me today rather than Tutuu for god knows what reason.

I couldn't care less about your so called gut. You don't know me at all. I'm confirmed town. It's not hard to understand. Literally every town that has flipped who actually know me and have played with me many times have fully town read me both on play and mech alike. If you are town, you are committed to being wrong on a pure fixation. I suggest you check that.

What are you even on about? Are you saying me, jpic AND tutu are scum now? What planet are you living on?

This conversation is not productive cause I'm getting worked up. But holy shit.

You don't know me either. Why do you get to call me potentially scum and I can't do the same even though my gut is telling me that it's a possibility?

[Dyslexicon]

Why didn't you want to chop 112 the 2nd and final day she became the leading wagon? You kept saying you got "cold feet" until 112 did revealed that she was 3P. It felt very similar to what you were saying about Tim just yesterday. It felt like you wanted town cred for when you thought they were gonna flip town. In 112's case, you didn't realize 112 3P, and the moment she did claim it, you were all for chopping her. Why didn't you ever want to chop Alison when she claimed 3P too?

I got cold feet on 112 because I just didn't thinks he was mafia, and in the back of my mind I felt Sloonei was maybe tmi-ing her town, WHICH HE WAS. I rememeber when 112 was yeeted, I thought we still had like 3 hours left in the day for some reason so that we could change it, but at some point I realised 112 was a done deal anyways. Which, good for us, cause 112's role was horrible for us.

Also, I literally get cold feet on any yeet ever when I'm town. Always. I'm never sure and I hate to fuck up. That's a very very very typical thing for me.

I. Don't. Need. Town. Cred. I'm. Confirmed. Town.

[Dyslexicon]

You don't know me either. Why do you get to call me potentially scum and I can't do the same even though my gut is telling me that it's a possibility?

You can do that. You are literally doing that. But it's wrong as fuck and if you wanted to you could just look at the logical evidence and confirmed me as town. It's literally that simple. If I had mech evidence that was as solid, I would confirm you as town too. Like I have everyone else in this game except three people.

Put your mind to which one of Michelle or Syn or neither is mafia imo.

[Dyslexicon]

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

[Justplayingitcool]

So the tutuu thing is confirmed not a mistake?

Lol day gonna be spent tinfoiling tutuu then

I wonder if michelle has a role that messes with people’s targets

[Hyena]

I don't really care if you take it as a scum claim. My gut has been telling me stuff. Today it's still telling me that one of you could be scum and that if you are, you came into today planning to try to chop me, which is why Hollowkatt was killed. Also, if Long Con didn't take Tutuu off the poll, then I'm assuming scum did, either because Tutuu is scum herself, or because again, scum wanted to come after me today rather than Tutuu for god knows what reason.

I couldn't care less about your so called gut. You don't know me at all. I'm confirmed town. It's not hard to understand. Literally every town that has flipped who actually know me and have played with me many times have fully town read me both on play and mech alike. If you are town, you are committed to being wrong on a pure fixation. I suggest you check that.

What are you even on about? Are you saying me, jpic AND tutu are scum now? What planet are you living on?

This conversation is not productive cause I'm getting worked up. But holy shit.

You don't know me either. Why do you get to call me potentially scum and I can't do the same even though my gut is telling me that it's a possibility?

And you know what else? Everyone who DOES know me this game and has played multiple games with me has SAID multiple times that I'm lock town. Nutella did, Mac did, Tim did, HK did, need I go further? In fact, one person who claimed to not know me and who tried to push for me stuff for stuff that those others read me town for (Sloonei) ended flipping scum. I've pushed on nearly ever scum this game from D1. Look at my ISO -- you'll see that I ended up calling Sloonei, Nanook, Marmot, Ted, AND 112 all scum multiple times at various points during D1 and D2. Do you think I bus my own teammate AND try to get rid of potentially teammates in 3P? I even tried voting Alison during D1. Do I need to go on?

[Justplayingitcool]

Sorta buy hyena’s frustration

[tutuu]

Timsup2nothin was the Laser Operator, Civilian

Every third Night phase, your laser cannon will be charged. Use it to annihilate one individual of your choice.

[Dyslexicon]

I'm voting Michelle unless she has a role that is obviously pro-town or something else going on, or she can convince me she's town.

In which case I might argue that yeeting Alison is worth it here.

We wouldn't know if mafia were all killed. Five mafia on a team seems too few, but what do I know.

[Justplayingitcool]

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine

[Dyslexicon]

Sorta buy hyena’s frustration

Sorta buying the ...whatever it is. But I'm rolling my eyes even harder than most times this kind of shit happens. But whatever.

[Hyena]

You don't know me either. Why do you get to call me potentially scum and I can't do the same even though my gut is telling me that it's a possibility?

You can do that. You are literally doing that. But it's wrong as fuck and if you wanted to you could just look at the logical evidence and confirmed me as town. It's literally that simple. If I had mech evidence that was as solid, I would confirm you as town too. Like I have everyone else in this game except three people.

Put your mind to which one of Michelle or Syn or neither is mafia imo.

Let me ask you this then. There was a nightkill last night. There apparently was also a redirect or something that caused LC to take Tutuu off the poll. Do you think that these two actions could suggest that there are two mafia left? Or do you still think that there is one left?

[tutuu]

hollowkatt was The Pool Shark, Civilian.

Each Night, you call your shot. Correctly predict the person who receives the most votes in the poll the next Day (not necessarily the person who dies- just the person who receives the most raw votes visible in the poll when the poll closes), and you will be safe from any negative activities against you that same Night.[/size]

during the night i thought very hard about who do i wanna vote for today and .........

it was going to be .....

hollowkatt .....

[Justplayingitcool]

I extremely doubt scum started with a team of 7 just numbers wise

[tutuu]

alison offered me a deal for something btw. i think silence or w/e. (just saying she wasnt redirected or something)

[Justplayingitcool]

Also, if I was the redirector my redirect power failed and we have seen evidence of a kill & redirection

[tutuu]

I guess the over/under

But I received a message saying my action failed

I blocked you. Sorry. You are confirmed town now.

I started to read ISOs on you, Syn and Hyena like 1 hour before deadline. Your D1/D2 looked not so great, but it was probably a bad choice anyway. My reasoning was just that out of everyone left, you were the one that would definitely kill me IF you were scum. I think many others would keep me alive, and I still have blocking powers.

LC's track may bag scum or confirm town. We should be closing in.

Fucking knew Tim was town smh

WOT U HAVE blocking POWERS?

wtf did wilgy peek then

how

wot

why

who

yes?

[Dyslexicon]

Let me ask you this then. There was a nightkill last night. There apparently was also a redirect or something that caused LC to take Tutuu off the poll. Do you think that these two actions could suggest that there are two mafia left? Or do you still think that there is one left?

Yeah, I don't know how the Tutu off the poll thing happened.

I don't know. I can't imagine there being two mafia left. 7 + 2 3p seems too much. But I don't know. If there is, I can't figure out who it is. Would be Michelle + Syn maybe. I town read everyone still alive actually.

Also, I don't care much to figure that out now. The most important thing is that we do yeet mafia today. And if game does not end, there's still threats here.

I was wondering if there may be no mafia left, but there being a NK at all should point to there being mafia left I guess.

[tutuu]

WHY did HOLLOWKATT die