Magic the Gathering Mafia - Game Over - Mafia has won!

[112]

112 is my top suspect.

yeah well you're my top suspect

[Marmot]

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

How did you do that?

Do wot?

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

How did you do that?

Do wot?

Vote 112. I want to do that too.

[Epignosis]

Ah! Poll doesn't matter.

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

[Marmot]

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

How did you do that?

Do wot?

Vote 112. I want to do that too.

Nicol Bolas => esooa => 112. It's a complicated backstory.

[Epignosis]

[VOTE: 112] aubergine

How did you do that?

Do wot?

Vote 112. I want to do that too.

Nicol Bolas => esooa => 112. It's a complicated backstory.

I know that you doughnut.

[Epignosis]

[VOTE:
Nicol Bolas] aubergine

Or 112

[Marmot]

o_O owo

More posts incoming.

@Enrique

[Epignosis]

Meanwhile, ted's a shitty lynch.

[Marmot]

That was fun.

What next Wilgy? Can we still rescue this game without the bodice of reason?

[MacDougall]

Meanwhile, ted's a shitty lynch.

Look I get that you like to play the grumpy dad character but you've crossed the threshold into openly antagonising townies trying to solve territory which you only do when you're mafia.

[Epignosis]

Meanwhile, ted's a shitty lynch.

Look I get that you like to play the grumpy dad character but you've crossed the threshold into openly antagonising townies trying to solve territory which you only do when you're mafia.

Hey MacDougall. Go have sex or something.

[tutuu]

@DrWilgy @dunya @Enrique @Epignosis @falcon45ca @Guillotine @hollowkatt @Jackofhearts2005 @Justplayingitcool @Long Con @MacDougall @Marmot @112 @tedxtr @Urist

I would like to introduce a small change/encouragement:

Voting from now on will be MANDATORY to be done BOTH in the poll and using the <vote> tags in the thread.

Since there is no physical way for me to enforce this due to the forum limitations other than me sternly waving my finger, I would like to ask all of you - if you see someone not voting in BOTH the poll and the thread - to please scold them on my behalf!

At the end of the day, if there is a difference between the votes in the poll and the votes written ITT with the <vote> tags, I will still take into account those with the <vote> tags first and foremost, over those in the poll.

[MacDougall]

Meanwhile, ted's a shitty lynch.

Look I get that you like to play the grumpy dad character but you've crossed the threshold into openly antagonising townies trying to solve territory which you only do when you're mafia.

Hey MacDougall. Go have sex or something.

How you doing @Elohcin?

[hollowkatt]

no mac, im sheeping you today.

you're both sheeping me, sheesh

[hollowkatt]

Meanwhile, ted's a shitty lynch.

why?

[Marmot]

Meanwhile, ted's a shitty lynch.

Look I get that you like to play the grumpy dad character but you've crossed the threshold into openly antagonising townies trying to solve territory which you only do when you're mafia.

Hey MacDougall. Go have sex or something.

How you doing @Elohcin?

Let's chop 112

[Marmot]

Spoiler: show

Wilgy is going to be the day 1 chop 95% of the time

it's already that obvious

his alignment isn't even obvious just that he's going to be chopped

distrustful of bolesooa and ajanitina atm

@hollowkatt

care to explain this post from earlier?

yeah, the amount of times you were talking about your mana needs gave me the willies. guillotina I dunno, I have a hard time reading reaction images and some of the reactions didn't seem to fit some of the posts.

Like ok, all of us have mana abilities (I assume) so yeah, mana and mana management are going to be things this game, plus wolves have an ability to nuke someone based on the amount of mana they gain during a day phase, so! someone who's openly talking about mana needs either has no fear (which is possible) OR they're a wolf and know they aren't getting nuked (also possible)

I have an ability which as explained can literally not be used without me being given a specific kind of mana

do you expect me to just do nothing with my ability or land this game?

Because that doesn't seem very useful to me.

So I decided to ask about how we will figure out things like Mana distribution among town

This post really doesn't sit well with me because it's lacking so many things. HK doesn't seem to consider the usefulness in giving some amount of coordination to town, HK doesn't see the usefulness in me giving information to town that I believe helps us inform our decisions, HK doesn't look at my posts and see I never asked for Mana and have been saying we shouldn't do that in thread

guillo is probably town

dunia is also town. This game is getting easy.

Who else needs solving?

I don't recall seeing marmot usually be this confident. Is this scummy for him?

We're not lynching Falcon

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

dunya I have as town for her post about understanding how people town read guillo in spider verse

feels like she came to this thought by actually trying to read guillo

ted I don't really care about the "slip" thing. I disagree with that point but there's a few fine ones

marmot feels off and I wouldn't mind lynching him

falcon is pretty obviously town and he's been getting scum read by people for the worst reasons

I'm honestly not even gonna bother trying to read guillo

urist is towny

Finally caught up. I have determined that Made is scum

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

Kyle also incredibly wolfy for having over 100 posts and I don't remember a single one.

Why are we voting Ted?

the Kyle point here is legitimate but I don't know if it's really AI for Kyle

lc town read

Did I miss something, esooa is playing this game?

I'm here but I've not really wanted to participate in thread too much

it's just messy

Got any spicy reads?

spiciest is prolly town leaning Ted

Did I miss something, esooa is playing this game?

I'm here but I've not really wanted to participate in thread too much

it's just messy

The thread is too messy?

when I have been trying to read the thread at other times people were all getting mad at falcon and he was getting mad back

guillo was doing his thing lol

marmot was literally wolf claiming for wifom reasons which is just awful

etc

when I have been trying to read the thread at other times people were all getting mad at falcon and he was getting mad back

guillo was doing his thing lol

marmot was literally wolf claiming for wifom reasons which is just awful

etc

I have 100 posts, and you're scumreading me for deliberate wifom?

no

read the question asked to me to understand my answer

I would prefer if you explain it to me like I'm 5.

someone asked me why I said the thread was messy and I wasn't too enthusiastic about participating in it

it's not about my read on you

You did state that you wouldn't mind yeeting me today. I presume that means you have some amount of scumread on me, and I'm trying to figure out what it is. Can you explain it?

your reads are meh and you feel different to your usual town game

Above is a compilation of all of esooa's reads from Day 1. To give a summary of them in chronological order:

Wilgy will be chopped
guillo town
Marmot scum
We're not yeeting falcon
Vote Wilgy
dunya town
ted town
Marmot scum
falcon town
refuses to read guillo
Urist town
Kyle null
LC town
ted town


Her only scumread was of me (I think she had one of hk early on, but not definite). Her read of me was stated as "your reads are meh and you feel different to your usual town game".

Regardless, she left her vote on Wilgy. She offered no reason to vote there. Literally none.

She offered plenty of townreads, and also spent quite a bit of time engaging in discussion on mech stuff. Comparatively, her desire to scumhunt was extremely lacking.

[Guillotine]

Spoiler: show

Wilgy is going to be the day 1 chop 95% of the time

it's already that obvious

his alignment isn't even obvious just that he's going to be chopped

distrustful of bolesooa and ajanitina atm

@hollowkatt

care to explain this post from earlier?

yeah, the amount of times you were talking about your mana needs gave me the willies. guillotina I dunno, I have a hard time reading reaction images and some of the reactions didn't seem to fit some of the posts.

Like ok, all of us have mana abilities (I assume) so yeah, mana and mana management are going to be things this game, plus wolves have an ability to nuke someone based on the amount of mana they gain during a day phase, so! someone who's openly talking about mana needs either has no fear (which is possible) OR they're a wolf and know they aren't getting nuked (also possible)

I have an ability which as explained can literally not be used without me being given a specific kind of mana

do you expect me to just do nothing with my ability or land this game?

Because that doesn't seem very useful to me.

So I decided to ask about how we will figure out things like Mana distribution among town

This post really doesn't sit well with me because it's lacking so many things. HK doesn't seem to consider the usefulness in giving some amount of coordination to town, HK doesn't see the usefulness in me giving information to town that I believe helps us inform our decisions, HK doesn't look at my posts and see I never asked for Mana and have been saying we shouldn't do that in thread

guillo is probably town

dunia is also town. This game is getting easy.

Who else needs solving?

I don't recall seeing marmot usually be this confident. Is this scummy for him?

We're not lynching Falcon

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

dunya I have as town for her post about understanding how people town read guillo in spider verse

feels like she came to this thought by actually trying to read guillo

ted I don't really care about the "slip" thing. I disagree with that point but there's a few fine ones

marmot feels off and I wouldn't mind lynching him

falcon is pretty obviously town and he's been getting scum read by people for the worst reasons

I'm honestly not even gonna bother trying to read guillo

urist is towny

Finally caught up. I have determined that Made is scum

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

Kyle also incredibly wolfy for having over 100 posts and I don't remember a single one.

Why are we voting Ted?

the Kyle point here is legitimate but I don't know if it's really AI for Kyle

lc town read

Did I miss something, esooa is playing this game?

I'm here but I've not really wanted to participate in thread too much

it's just messy

Got any spicy reads?

spiciest is prolly town leaning Ted

Did I miss something, esooa is playing this game?

I'm here but I've not really wanted to participate in thread too much

it's just messy

The thread is too messy?

when I have been trying to read the thread at other times people were all getting mad at falcon and he was getting mad back

guillo was doing his thing lol

marmot was literally wolf claiming for wifom reasons which is just awful

etc

I have 100 posts, and you're scumreading me for deliberate wifom?

no

read the question asked to me to understand my answer

I would prefer if you explain it to me like I'm 5.

someone asked me why I said the thread was messy and I wasn't too enthusiastic about participating in it

it's not about my read on you

You did state that you wouldn't mind yeeting me today. I presume that means you have some amount of scumread on me, and I'm trying to figure out what it is. Can you explain it?

your reads are meh and you feel different to your usual town game

Above is a compilation of all of esooa's reads from Day 1. To give a summary of them in chronological order:

Wilgy will be chopped
guillo town
Marmot scum
We're not yeeting falcon
Vote Wilgy
dunya town
ted town
Marmot scum
falcon town
refuses to read guillo
Urist town
Kyle null
LC town
ted town


Her only scumread was of me (I think she had one of hk early on, but not definite). Her read of me was stated as "your reads are meh and you feel different to your usual town game".

Regardless, she left her vote on Wilgy. She offered no reason to vote there. Literally none.

She offered plenty of townreads, and also spent quite a bit of time engaging in discussion on mech stuff. Comparatively, her desire to scumhunt was extremely lacking.

What do you think about Ted now?

[Marmot]

What do you think of 112/esooa?

[Marmot]

I'm not opposed to yeeting ted. I feel slightly worse about them if only because we were wrong on Made, and also because they haven't posted yet.

[Guillotine]

What do you think of 112/esooa?

I agree that her usual scumhunting game is not here, but im not sure it's because she is just demotivated or scum. She helped a lot to understand the mechanics of this game though, i feel scum would try to do just the opposite, scum would try to confuse us more and if not, at least they wouldn't help us get clarity about how shit works? After all, our weakness is being uninformed.

[hollowkatt]

What do you think of 112/esooa?

I agree that her usual scumhunting game is not here, but im not sure it's because she is just demotivated or scum. She helped a lot to understand the mechanics of this game though, i feel scum would try to do just the opposite, scum would try to confuse us more and if not, at least they wouldn't help us get clarity about how shit works? After all, our weakness is being uninformed.

alternately, being helpful townie is exactly a tool in a good scum box, I've done that before to get town reads on the cheap from people unfamiliar with setup or even how forum software works,

[DrWilgy]

That was fun.

What next Wilgy? Can we still rescue this game without the bodice of reason?

Hmm... Scry 2... Bottom both... Draw...

Nope. We are doomed.

[hollowkatt]

Spoiler: show

Wilgy is going to be the day 1 chop 95% of the time

it's already that obvious

his alignment isn't even obvious just that he's going to be chopped

distrustful of bolesooa and ajanitina atm

@hollowkatt

care to explain this post from earlier?

yeah, the amount of times you were talking about your mana needs gave me the willies. guillotina I dunno, I have a hard time reading reaction images and some of the reactions didn't seem to fit some of the posts.

Like ok, all of us have mana abilities (I assume) so yeah, mana and mana management are going to be things this game, plus wolves have an ability to nuke someone based on the amount of mana they gain during a day phase, so! someone who's openly talking about mana needs either has no fear (which is possible) OR they're a wolf and know they aren't getting nuked (also possible)

I have an ability which as explained can literally not be used without me being given a specific kind of mana

do you expect me to just do nothing with my ability or land this game?

Because that doesn't seem very useful to me.

So I decided to ask about how we will figure out things like Mana distribution among town

This post really doesn't sit well with me because it's lacking so many things. HK doesn't seem to consider the usefulness in giving some amount of coordination to town, HK doesn't see the usefulness in me giving information to town that I believe helps us inform our decisions, HK doesn't look at my posts and see I never asked for Mana and have been saying we shouldn't do that in thread

guillo is probably town

dunia is also town. This game is getting easy.

Who else needs solving?

I don't recall seeing marmot usually be this confident. Is this scummy for him?

We're not lynching Falcon

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

dunya I have as town for her post about understanding how people town read guillo in spider verse

feels like she came to this thought by actually trying to read guillo

ted I don't really care about the "slip" thing. I disagree with that point but there's a few fine ones

marmot feels off and I wouldn't mind lynching him

falcon is pretty obviously town and he's been getting scum read by people for the worst reasons

I'm honestly not even gonna bother trying to read guillo

urist is towny

Finally caught up. I have determined that Made is scum

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

Kyle also incredibly wolfy for having over 100 posts and I don't remember a single one.

Why are we voting Ted?

the Kyle point here is legitimate but I don't know if it's really AI for Kyle

lc town read

Did I miss something, esooa is playing this game?

I'm here but I've not really wanted to participate in thread too much

it's just messy

Got any spicy reads?

spiciest is prolly town leaning Ted

Did I miss something, esooa is playing this game?

I'm here but I've not really wanted to participate in thread too much

it's just messy

The thread is too messy?

when I have been trying to read the thread at other times people were all getting mad at falcon and he was getting mad back

guillo was doing his thing lol

marmot was literally wolf claiming for wifom reasons which is just awful

etc

I have 100 posts, and you're scumreading me for deliberate wifom?

no

read the question asked to me to understand my answer

I would prefer if you explain it to me like I'm 5.

someone asked me why I said the thread was messy and I wasn't too enthusiastic about participating in it

it's not about my read on you

You did state that you wouldn't mind yeeting me today. I presume that means you have some amount of scumread on me, and I'm trying to figure out what it is. Can you explain it?

your reads are meh and you feel different to your usual town game

Above is a compilation of all of esooa's reads from Day 1. To give a summary of them in chronological order:

Wilgy will be chopped
guillo town
Marmot scum
We're not yeeting falcon
Vote Wilgy
dunya town
ted town
Marmot scum
falcon town
refuses to read guillo
Urist town
Kyle null
LC town
ted town


Her only scumread was of me (I think she had one of hk early on, but not definite). Her read of me was stated as "your reads are meh and you feel different to your usual town game".

Regardless, she left her vote on Wilgy. She offered no reason to vote there. Literally none.

She offered plenty of townreads, and also spent quite a bit of time engaging in discussion on mech stuff. Comparatively, her desire to scumhunt was extremely lacking.

yeah, she had an early HK scum read, or at least unease for sure. Her wigly read, if I remember right, was based on him not doing his Dr shtick early or something? And I think she got turned off from in thread presence during the Guillotine/X (sorry, can't remember who the complaining about images person was)

Definitely no the play I'd expect from her but it's 112 now so eh?

[Marmot]

I guess we give 112 a chance, but going after Epi and dunya first ain't promising. They're my top two townreads.

[112]

I guess we give 112 a chance, but going after Epi and dunya first ain't promising. They're my top two townreads.

I hadn't read the game at all. Both were jokes.

[tedxtr]

on page 28

investigatives aren't a thing in the game and wilgy was most likely trolling with that line...it's his way of saying the person is his scum read

[tedxtr]

I'm not opposed to yeeting ted. I feel slightly worse about them if only because we were wrong on Made, and also because they haven't posted yet.

perhaps if you fly me over to NA i'll be able to post at the same time as you

[tedxtr]

and funny enough i've actually posted at 1am when thread opened

[112]

@falcon45ca I did as you requested and have arrived at the bold conclusion that you're town.

[tedxtr]

Meanwhile, ted's a shitty lynch.

not sure if LC also thinks i'm town or if he has other targets above me, but i'm gonna be pretty sad if you're both wolves

[dunya]

Are you not understanding that mac blocked me and only revealed after I said I was "blocked" guillio?

Hmmmm meh.

[VOTE: Ted] aubergine

what's funny exactly?

[dunya]

Urist, why did you agree with Nicol Bolas that falcon wasn't a wolf? Because you agree with his posts, right? Which ones do you agree with, and why haven't those agreements manifested themselves as opinions in the thread?

lol

LC, meet urist, a man of little words but big skills.

i have actually never seen mafia urist and he hates randing mafia.

Dunya is probably town because I am still alive tbh.

Let's leave her alone shall we.

And here, I'm thinking dunya might be mafia because I'm still alive.

aww, i love this.

That was fun.

it was! i laughed till my belly hurt. you even thought of "redpeeked" cos kyle posted in "dead red" right? at first i was like wtff, then i was like lmaoooo wilgy tell me, what do you make of your experiment?

[dunya]

@falcon45ca I did as you requested and have arrived at the bold conclusion that you're town.

why?

also, @Epignosis i dont see why 112 is your top scum read. tell me in words (other than marmot's lol).

[Long Con]

on page 28

investigatives aren't a thing in the game and wilgy was most likely trolling with that line...it's his way of saying the person is his scum read

Wilgy? Reads? You must be thinking of Doctor William Gee MD PhD WMD... that guy had reads on everyone. Until the Incident. We don't like to talk about it much but his mind completely shattered and we've been taking turns helping him feed himself ever since.

[tedxtr]

anybody that town reads me in this game so i can bounce ideas off of them?

if not i'll probably make some reads later anyway, got chemistry in a bit

[Long Con]

anybody that town reads me in this game so i can bounce ideas off of them?

if not i'll probably make some reads later anyway, got chemistry in a bit

Yo, bounce me up.

[tedxtr]

anybody that town reads me in this game so i can bounce ideas off of them?

if not i'll probably make some reads later anyway, got chemistry in a bit

Yo, bounce me up.

why did you end up voting for urist?

[tedxtr]

i guess i'm asking if you have any further explanation than "his iso has little meat"

[tedxtr]

currently i think jpic is a wolf, something is off on toan and i can't tell he's reading the thread at all or drawing any villagery thoughts from suspicions

he characterized made as having only filler posts when he had a big wall on me, ergo he's not reading / has not read the entire thread and drawing connections like a villager would

he said kyle had a lot of posts but no content and that's scummy

he also said wilgy is scummy for not being here or whatever

him not understanding what is going on w/r/t me i don't really believe. i also didn't like the posturing that made was his strongest read when he didn't even read him correctly (he said he didn't have content but there was literally a big ass town read on me, cmon), i felt like he was saying made should be voted over me while not having a read on me at all, and i expect that to be how wolves would play around thread suspicions.

just doesn't seem like he's drawing connections in his head at all that have any depth comparable to a villagery process

[tedxtr]

gonna give LC a town read just because he pocketed me for the day, guess i'm fine with most of his posts too

don't have any other strong opinions for the moment

[VOTE: jpic ] aubergine

[Guillotine]

anybody that town reads me in this game so i can bounce ideas off of them?

if not i'll probably make some reads later anyway, got chemistry in a bit

gonna give LC a town read just because he pocketed me for the day, guess i'm fine with most of his posts too

don't have any other strong opinions for the moment

[VOTE: jpic ] aubergine

I dont town read but i'll play ball. Why are you being so vague in your reads Insomnia?

[VOTE: Jpic] aubergine Now that im talking in words you are evading me, what's up.

[tedxtr]

i don't see how i'm being vague in my reads

there used to be a time where i would've spent 500 words analysing a post but i've grown to realise it doesn't make much of a difference since it's still very unlikely to be followed

and more likely to get picked apart since people are missing the key points of my analysis / they don't get it (it probably is a me fault though, because i get keyed in on small stuff and thus they pick that apart and forget the other arguments)

wouldn't really say i'm evading you either, there was just nothing to interact on.

[Guillotine]

i don't see how i'm being vague in my reads

there used to be a time where i would've spent 500 words analysing a post but i've grown to realise it doesn't make much of a difference since it's still very unlikely to be followed

and more likely to get picked apart since people are missing the key points of my analysis / they don't get it (it probably is a me fault though, because i get keyed in on small stuff and thus they pick that apart and forget the other arguments)

wouldn't really say i'm evading you either, there was just nothing to interact on.

Maybe i won't pick them apart. Try me. Tell me the three top posts that you like from LC.

The evading was not meant for you, it was for JPIC

[Guillotine]

wouldn't really say i'm evading you either, there was just nothing to interact on.

That said, i have been voting for you, don't you think that's something to interact with me for?

[tedxtr]

The evading was not meant for you, it was for JPIC

you said insomnia tho

and it's really a holistic read, i like that he started to open the day with pushing urist, i think i like the talk about my post even though it looks superficially scummy, i believe it was more a sorting process in his head behind it than typical wolf shade now that i pondered on it

i think the progression of "responds normally to me, mindmelds with urist on me and then pushes on urist SoD2" is a good look fmpov

[Long Con]

i guess i'm asking if you have any further explanation than "his iso has little meat"

He's posting but not trying to solve. He paid some lip service to the idea of having reads but he doesn't really.

[tedxtr]

wouldn't really say i'm evading you either, there was just nothing to interact on.

That said, i have been voting for you, don't you think that's something to interact with me for?

if you don't state a reason, then no

and i'm not usually the type to ask everyone about their votes on me if i'm being pushed by a lot of people

[Guillotine]

The evading was not meant for you, it was for JPIC

you said insomnia tho

and it's really a holistic read, i like that he started to open the day with pushing urist, i think i like the talk about my post even though it looks superficially scummy, i believe it was more a sorting process in his head behind it than typical wolf shade now that i pondered on it

i think the progression of "responds normally to me, mindmelds with urist on me and then pushes on urist SoD2" is a good look fmpov

The post has two lines. One addressing you, one addressing JPIC.

What is your read on Marmot and Falcon?