Magic the Gathering Mafia - Game Over - Mafia has won!

[Justplayingitcool]

anybody that town reads me in this game so i can bounce ideas off of them?

if not i'll probably make some reads later anyway, got chemistry in a bit

gonna give LC a town read just because he pocketed me for the day, guess i'm fine with most of his posts too

don't have any other strong opinions for the moment

[VOTE: jpic ] aubergine

I dont town read but i'll play ball. Why are you being so vague in your reads Insomnia?

[VOTE: Jpic] aubergine Now that im talking in words you are evading me, what's up.

I wouldn't think so high of yourself

[tedxtr]

What is your read on Marmot and Falcon?

literally none, but i'm gonna take a look later (i'm in chem class, should probably leave the thread for a bit)

[Justplayingitcool]

Huh, but there's no investigative roles

Your mafia

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

[Justplayingitcool]

you're

[Long Con]

Huh, but there's no investigative roles

Your mafia

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Any follow-up on that assertion?

[Guillotine]

anybody that town reads me in this game so i can bounce ideas off of them?

if not i'll probably make some reads later anyway, got chemistry in a bit

gonna give LC a town read just because he pocketed me for the day, guess i'm fine with most of his posts too

don't have any other strong opinions for the moment

[VOTE: jpic ] aubergine

I dont town read but i'll play ball. Why are you being so vague in your reads Insomnia?

[VOTE: Jpic] aubergine Now that im talking in words you are evading me, what's up.

I wouldn't think so high of yourself

I don't think, I am high lol.

I'm the most townread player in this game and the reason kyle is dead instead of me is because im a PGO.

[Justplayingitcool]

Huh, but there's no investigative roles

Your mafia

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Any follow-up on that assertion?

Yes, you're his partner

[Long Con]

Huh, but there's no investigative roles

Your mafia

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Any follow-up on that assertion?

Yes, you're his partner

Not really what I was going for.

[Justplayingitcool]

Huh, but there's no investigative roles

Your mafia

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Any follow-up on that assertion?

Yes, you're his partner

Not really what I was going for.

I tr both urist and falcon, so marmot putting two of my top townies is highly suspect

[Guillotine]

What is your read on Marmot and Falcon?

literally none, but i'm gonna take a look later (i'm in chem class, should probably leave the thread for a bit)

Ok. I'll keep my vote warm on you until you are back. You know where to find me.
[VOTE: Ted] aubergine

[Long Con]

Huh, but there's no investigative roles

Your mafia

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Any follow-up on that assertion?

Yes, you're his partner

Not really what I was going for.

I tr both urist and falcon, so marmot putting two of my top townies is highly suspect

Why do you townread Urist?

[tedxtr]

What is your read on Marmot and Falcon?

literally none, but i'm gonna take a look later (i'm in chem class, should probably leave the thread for a bit)

Ok. I'll keep my vote warm on you until you are back. You know where to find me.
[VOTE: Ted] aubergine

nobody's impressed with these types of posts fyi

achievement unlocked: i'll slank even more

[tedxtr]

in other news, i am convinced somebody else is posting from jpic's account

jpic if you need my help send me a bonk

[falcon45ca]

What is your read on Marmot and Falcon?

literally none, but i'm gonna take a look later (i'm in chem class, should probably leave the thread for a bit)

How do you have no read whatsoever on Marmot & I at this point in the game?

[falcon45ca]

Spoiler: show

Wilgy is going to be the day 1 chop 95% of the time

it's already that obvious

his alignment isn't even obvious just that he's going to be chopped

distrustful of bolesooa and ajanitina atm

@hollowkatt

care to explain this post from earlier?

yeah, the amount of times you were talking about your mana needs gave me the willies. guillotina I dunno, I have a hard time reading reaction images and some of the reactions didn't seem to fit some of the posts.

Like ok, all of us have mana abilities (I assume) so yeah, mana and mana management are going to be things this game, plus wolves have an ability to nuke someone based on the amount of mana they gain during a day phase, so! someone who's openly talking about mana needs either has no fear (which is possible) OR they're a wolf and know they aren't getting nuked (also possible)

I have an ability which as explained can literally not be used without me being given a specific kind of mana

do you expect me to just do nothing with my ability or land this game?

Because that doesn't seem very useful to me.

So I decided to ask about how we will figure out things like Mana distribution among town

This post really doesn't sit well with me because it's lacking so many things. HK doesn't seem to consider the usefulness in giving some amount of coordination to town, HK doesn't see the usefulness in me giving information to town that I believe helps us inform our decisions, HK doesn't look at my posts and see I never asked for Mana and have been saying we shouldn't do that in thread

guillo is probably town

dunia is also town. This game is getting easy.

Who else needs solving?

I don't recall seeing marmot usually be this confident. Is this scummy for him?

We're not lynching Falcon

[VOTE: Wilgy] aubergine

dunya I have as town for her post about understanding how people town read guillo in spider verse

feels like she came to this thought by actually trying to read guillo

ted I don't really care about the "slip" thing. I disagree with that point but there's a few fine ones

marmot feels off and I wouldn't mind lynching him

falcon is pretty obviously town and he's been getting scum read by people for the worst reasons

I'm honestly not even gonna bother trying to read guillo

urist is towny

Finally caught up. I have determined that Made is scum

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

Kyle also incredibly wolfy for having over 100 posts and I don't remember a single one.

Why are we voting Ted?

the Kyle point here is legitimate but I don't know if it's really AI for Kyle

lc town read

Did I miss something, esooa is playing this game?

I'm here but I've not really wanted to participate in thread too much

it's just messy

Got any spicy reads?

spiciest is prolly town leaning Ted

Did I miss something, esooa is playing this game?

I'm here but I've not really wanted to participate in thread too much

it's just messy

The thread is too messy?

when I have been trying to read the thread at other times people were all getting mad at falcon and he was getting mad back

guillo was doing his thing lol

marmot was literally wolf claiming for wifom reasons which is just awful

etc

I have 100 posts, and you're scumreading me for deliberate wifom?

no

read the question asked to me to understand my answer

I would prefer if you explain it to me like I'm 5.

someone asked me why I said the thread was messy and I wasn't too enthusiastic about participating in it

it's not about my read on you

You did state that you wouldn't mind yeeting me today. I presume that means you have some amount of scumread on me, and I'm trying to figure out what it is. Can you explain it?

your reads are meh and you feel different to your usual town game

Above is a compilation of all of esooa's reads from Day 1. To give a summary of them in chronological order:

Wilgy will be chopped
guillo town
Marmot scum
We're not yeeting falcon
Vote Wilgy
dunya town
ted town
Marmot scum
falcon town
refuses to read guillo
Urist town
Kyle null
LC town
ted town


Her only scumread was of me (I think she had one of hk early on, but not definite). Her read of me was stated as "your reads are meh and you feel different to your usual town game".

Regardless, she left her vote on Wilgy. She offered no reason to vote there. Literally none.

She offered plenty of townreads, and also spent quite a bit of time engaging in discussion on mech stuff. Comparatively, her desire to scumhunt was extremely lacking.

Esooa is a pretty talented player, no? Do you think she'd be this reluctant to give scum reads if she were scum?


Is she shielding her scum partners by not giving reads on them, or do you think she town read her teammates in this scenario?

[falcon45ca]

Why are people (ted, epi) coming out and explaining DrW's "redcheck" as his way of pushing a scum read? Why isn't Wilgy doing this himself?

[Marmot]

Huh, but there's no investigative roles

Your mafia

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Because I know the rules?

[Marmot]

Huh, but there's no investigative roles

Your mafia

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Because I know the rules?

[Marmot]

Huh, but there's no investigative roles

Your mafia

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Any follow-up on that assertion?

Yes, you're his partner

Not really what I was going for.

I tr both urist and falcon, so marmot putting two of my top townies is highly suspect

I... I put them?

[falcon45ca]

Huh, but there's no investigative roles

Your mafia

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Any follow-up on that assertion?

Yes, you're his partner

Not really what I was going for.

I tr both urist and falcon, so marmot putting two of my top townies is highly suspect

Why is that suspect? Do you not like Marmot's reasoning for having Urist and I as scum?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Well, I died in Throne Mash 2 so more time over here.

[Jackofhearts2005]

So like...what’s up?

[falcon45ca]

So like...what’s up?

Give us a read on ted, epi & dunya

[Jackofhearts2005]

So like...what’s up?

Give us a read on ted, epi & dunya

No idea.

[falcon45ca]

[VOTE: VOTE JACK] aubergine

[Jackofhearts2005]

[VOTE: VOTE JACK] aubergine

No u.

[falcon45ca]

Enrique browsing the forum. Will he finally enter the game?

[tedxtr]

Why are people (ted, epi) coming out and explaining DrW's "redcheck" as his way of pushing a scum read? Why isn't Wilgy doing this himself?

because he's trolling and he thinks it's obvious to other people.


as to your other post, do you have reads on all 17 people on d1? and also, pretty easy, seeing as i had to deal with pushes on me 6 hours or so after i've made the mech post until EoD

[falcon45ca]

Why are people (ted, epi) coming out and explaining DrW's "redcheck" as his way of pushing a scum read? Why isn't Wilgy doing this himself?

because he's trolling and he thinks it's obvious to other people.


as to your other post, do you have reads on all 17 people on d1? and also, pretty easy, seeing as i had to deal with pushes on me 6 hours or so after i've made the mech post until EoD

Marmot and I are among the highest posters in this game so far, so ya I see it as strange that you have no read at all on either of us.

[tedxtr]

Why are people (ted, epi) coming out and explaining DrW's "redcheck" as his way of pushing a scum read? Why isn't Wilgy doing this himself?

because he's trolling and he thinks it's obvious to other people.


as to your other post, do you have reads on all 17 people on d1? and also, pretty easy, seeing as i had to deal with pushes on me 6 hours or so after i've made the mech post until EoD

Marmot and I are among the highest posters in this game so far, so ya I see it as strange that you have no read at all on either of us.

alright, you should vote for me then

or understand how d1 was played and also realise i don't really have many reads that people "expect me to have" on d1 on any other game

anything works for me

[Marmot]

[Guillotine]

What is your read on Marmot and Falcon?

literally none, but i'm gonna take a look later (i'm in chem class, should probably leave the thread for a bit)

Ok. I'll keep my vote warm on you until you are back. You know where to find me.
[VOTE: Ted] aubergine

nobody's impressed with these types of posts fyi

achievement unlocked: i'll slank even more

You got it wrong. Im here to catch scum not to impress you.

[tedxtr]

What is your read on Marmot and Falcon?

literally none, but i'm gonna take a look later (i'm in chem class, should probably leave the thread for a bit)

Ok. I'll keep my vote warm on you until you are back. You know where to find me.
[VOTE: Ted] aubergine

nobody's impressed with these types of posts fyi

achievement unlocked: i'll slank even more

You got it wrong. Im here to catch scum not to impress you.

you aren't doing either

[tedxtr]

i'm in the mood to troll!

[falcon45ca]

i'm in the mood to troll!

Why don't you give us some reads instead of...whatever it is you're doing

[tedxtr]

read #1 - wilgy's iso is entirely NAI

moving on

[tedxtr]

lol, i actually just went to read isos and wasn't meant to be a troll response, although that's pretty golden

[Guillotine]

Why are people (ted, epi) coming out and explaining DrW's "redcheck" as his way of pushing a scum read? Why isn't Wilgy doing this himself?

because he's trolling and he thinks it's obvious to other people.


as to your other post, do you have reads on all 17 people on d1? and also, pretty easy, seeing as i had to deal with pushes on me 6 hours or so after i've made the mech post until EoD

Did i ask you a read on all 17 people? I just asked for two. Then i will ask for the other 13 if you like.

[Guillotine]

What is your read on Marmot and Falcon?

literally none, but i'm gonna take a look later (i'm in chem class, should probably leave the thread for a bit)

Ok. I'll keep my vote warm on you until you are back. You know where to find me.
[VOTE: Ted] aubergine

nobody's impressed with these types of posts fyi

achievement unlocked: i'll slank even more

You got it wrong. Im here to catch scum not to impress you.

you aren't doing either

Yes i am

[tedxtr]

so punish the fool seems like a pretty punishing ability for our team.

the best we can probably do is to make scum play whack-a-mole. we all need mana for something...

fix suggestion : everyone should ask for the mana they need (and that's it - just ask for the mana, don't say what it's for or that it needs priority, etc etc), irregardless of how good or bad their ability is.

loop holes : the mafia will target strong people this way, so we're a bit forced to spread the cards to someone they don't need dead. (PoEish targets that can reasonably be town)

my instinct is to say that 3 mana is a bit tough to gather? so let's not try to get caught up in an ability that takes quite a bit to use anyway.

thoughts / concerns about this?

I don't think that 3 mana is tough to gather. I can produce that much mana in a night. I don't know how many lands you have, but I have three. If that's standard, then this is probably somewhere near equivalent to a wolf giving up their personal ability in order to use Punish The Fool.

Actually, this kind of reads like ted is a wolf with 3 lands who thinks that townies start with fewer.
Why would a townie ever say "3 mana is a bit tough to gather" here?

oh yeah, and i read this in the night and didn't even see it yesterday

my post is saying that 3 mana is a bit tough FOR ANYONE to gain (in this post i was talking about scum though, as in it's hard for scum to gather mana so they aren't very likely to use the card though)

and urist's post on it is definitely slimey, since i can't ever see the mental gymnastics you had to make in order to twist it that far. it's literally saying "my instinct is to say that 3 mana is a bit tough to gather, so let's not try to get caught up IN AN ABILITY THAT TAKES QUITE A BIT TO USE ANYWAY" - referring clearly to scum not having mana for the card punish the fool in this instance. how tf did you draw that i was a wolf thinking town start with fewer mana out of this?


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anyway, i got to this post through dunya's iso, and had a point on her

i havent actually deep read my role card yet, i felt like i needed to understand rules before i could decipher what my role actually does. but now witht he summary im gonna go big brains on this shit people

perhaps a bit of a tough post to make when you're provided both with your own role as well as a fake role? may be getting into wifom tunnels though. i do wanna say slightly villager lean for this post though

[tedxtr]

and before anyone attempts to make the fake claim thing a "slip" once again...

Mafia will have customly tailored fake claims

[tedxtr]

idk - there's times where i can read dunya, times where i just scum read her because that's what i feel

i'm really clueless though ; i guess the EoD was...slightly villagery? even though i don't see how falcon was on her mind at all, it reads more like she's supposed to get to marmot being scummy somehow. bit tough to follow. ignoring that, again, trying to stir things up at EoD maybeee town? i mean, i don't see what scum was getting yeeted there (as in, if she's a wolf, who was she trying to save?), but i haven't been at EoD. it did feel like it was only me and made as large wagons, was there anybody else?

[tedxtr]

@falcon45ca thoughts on epi's posts on you?

[112]

guillo so town it hurts

[tedxtr]

so, tl;dr on reads basically

long con villagery
dunya slightly villagery

jpic's account got hacked

wilgy probably a =rand yeet target today

and this is a new one i haven't talked about, but esooa's posting seemed fine to me as well, not exactly sure what problems there were / if there are any

[112]

ted clearly wolf

[VOTE: ted] aubergine

[112]

so, tl;dr on reads basically

long con villagery
dunya slightly villagery

jpic's account got hacked

wilgy probably a =rand yeet target today

and this is a new one i haven't talked about, but esooa's posting seemed fine to me as well, not exactly sure what problems there were / if there are any

it won't help you

[tedxtr]

ted clearly wolf

[VOTE: ted] aubergine

[tedxtr]

112 let me know when you'll read my posts btw, we both know you've probably read ~nothing

[Guillotine]

If there is a gunsmith or something similar, please give me a gun to shoot someone here.