Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [AMERICA RISES]

[TonyStarkPrime]

yeah poison always shoots me and I'm still alive

[TonyStarkPrime]

or sloonei :P

[Urist]

He does not appear to have a cohesive plan or a team

Yeah exactly, if he's scum like the plan is what, claim watcher who watched falcon target alison and then ??? somehow get falcon yeeted from there? I don't get it outside the perspective of town who thinks they caught scum doing something shady.

[Urist]

yeah poison always shoots me and I'm still alive

Yes poison as town vig would have shot you n1 or n2 prob

[Urist]

Also i think the kza kill came the night following her blocking of mac. I'm more inclined to believe that kza was killed by mac.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Re-read Jack's progression and the context of some of his reads for D4 (including the fact that he had a whole reads-wall on SoD4) maybe I'm judging him a bit too harshly. I kinda wonder what made me (on his reads) jump from an "Idk" to a "Projecting town" thing by mid D2, @Jackofhearts2005 do you remember why?

[VOTE: Kylemii] aubergine

For now.

I didn’t pay attention to you D1 and you seemed to be projecting town by mid D2.

[TonyStarkPrime]

He does not appear to have a cohesive plan or a team

Yeah exactly, if he's scum like the plan is what, claim watcher who watched falcon target alison and then ??? somehow get falcon yeeted from there? I don't get it outside the perspective of town who thinks they caught scum doing something shady.

(we've also assigned him this role because it's the only remaining town role he could be without some serious mistruthing going on but there's absolutely nothing in grogu's iso that actually suggests this -- no mentions of watching or anything)

[TonyStarkPrime]

just gonna go down the list until I hit someone not confirmed

alison is confirmed not wolf so you missed

[Jackofhearts2005]

Hey
@Jackofhearts2005
Since everyone has seemed to ignore you since D2 onwards let me enlighten you!
I think that you could be scum.
What if I told you that I took a sneak peek, and your scum.
What if I told you that you never receive this low of suspicion unless your scum.
What if I told you that I haven’t seen much from you and what exactly can you do to show me you have been Townie this game?

I’d tell you that’s mechanically impossible because I’m not and you claimed a role that iirc, doesn’t have peeks.

I’d tell you that your knowledge of my meta is out of date.

I’d refer you to my entire iso.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Why are there votes on Kyle atp?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Why are there votes on Kyle atp?

alison is sheeping epi and epi thinks that kyle handled made poorly

[TonyStarkPrime]

And Kyle is very solidly poe

[TonyStarkPrime]

I just tried to write up a trust fall and it feels like half of the people on the list have done nothing to earn my trust

[TonyStarkPrime]

ok here are the people I just cannot come up with a reason to tr:

Kyle
Syn
Marmot

And here's chop:
Chop

wolf team?

[Jackofhearts2005]

yeah poison always shoots me and I'm still alive

Why?

[TonyStarkPrime]

yeah poison always shoots me and I'm still alive

Why?

check out that iso

[Jackofhearts2005]

yeah poison always shoots me and I'm still alive

Why?

check out that iso

Do I have to?

Spoiler: show

Okay.

[Marmot]

The correct answer is because Spacedaisy and Chop are never w/w and I’m mentally preflipping Chop

So you mean Spacedaisy/Sprityo is your teammate? Got it.

[TonyStarkPrime]

can we have less snark and more solving the game

[Kylemii]

quote=Jackofhearts2005 post_id=752633 time=1615661332 user_id=541]
Why are there votes on Kyle atp?
[/quote]

people are jealous because of how handsome and cool I am

[Marmot]

can we have less snark and more solving the game

Well, you kinda just said you were going to ignore Sprityo because you're pre-flipping ChopChop.

[Kylemii]

and how good I am at deleting brackets

[Marmot]

Kyle, you've proven to be poor at performing that particular task on at least one occasion

[Kylemii]

[VOTE: Martin] aubergine why is this right or wrong

[Jackofhearts2005]

Poison seems like they want to yeet Tony. So why kill him?

[TonyStarkPrime]

DAY 1 FINAL:

Spoiler: show

BoKnows(8)
Voters: Urist, Esooa, staypositivefriend, MartinGG99, Rej, Alison, Grogu, Sloonei

c4e5g3d5(3)
Voters: Long Con, Epignosis, Dom

ChopChop(3)
Voters: TonyStarkPrime, c4e5g3d5, Jackofhearts2005

Jackofhearts2005
Voters: DrWilgy, ChopChop

Rej(5)
Voters: NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, KZA, falcon45ca, Marmot, MacDougall

staypositivefriend
Voters: DaughterOfOmega

TonyStarkPrime
Voters: BoKnows

Not Voting: Daisy, Poison, Kyle

DAY 2 FINAL:

Spoiler: show

ChopChop(4)
Voters: Kylemii, TonyStarkPrime, Alison, Sloonei

MacDougall
Voters: Epignosis

Rej(11)
Voters: KZA, Spacedaisy, MartinGG99, Marmot, Urist, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, MacDougall, Long Con, Jackofhearts2005, Grogu, staypositivefriend


Sloonei
Voters: ChopChop

Not Voting: Dom, Poison, Rej, Omega

DAY 3 FINAL:

Spoiler: show

ChopChop (5)
Voters: Made, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, Alison, TonyStarkPrime, KZA

Made (7)
Voters: MartinGG99, Long Con, Kylemii, Jackofhearts2005, MacDougall, Sloonei, Marmot

KZA
Voters: ChopChop

MacDougall
Voters: Dom, Grogu, Epignosis

NOT VOTING:
Voters: Urist, Poison, Daisy

DAY 4 FINAL:

Spoiler: show

ChopChop
Voters: Dom

MacDougall (6):
Voters: TonyStarkPrime, Urist, MartinGG99, Alison, Jackofhearts2005, Long Con

MartinGG99:
Voters: Kylemii

Spacedaisy:
Voters: Marmot

TonyStarkPrime (4):
Voters: Epignosis, ChopChop, NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, MacDougall

Not Voting: Sprityo, Poison, Grogu

update with me putting grogu back in green to see what it looks like

[TonyStarkPrime]

can we have less snark and more solving the game

Well, you kinda just said you were going to ignore Sprityo because you're pre-flipping ChopChop.

yes exactly

[TonyStarkPrime]

that's not snarky that's just reality

[Kylemii]

quote=Marmot post_id=752646 time=1615662230 user_id=288
Kyle, you've proven to be poor at performing that particular task on at least one occasion
/quote

only because I was holding back

now you can see my true power

[Marmot]

that's not snarky that's just reality

Not snarky no, but not exactly solving either.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Urist is almost certainly not w/w with Made. Made made a point of needling Urist repeatedly and Urist did not appear to be in on it

I think Urist is town but I think this is dangerous reasoning. Made replaced into a slot that had been essentially been read peeked. He was in antispew for his whole career.

Spoiler: show

Which is why smart players like me just voted Made and skipped the rest of the day. rollsafe.png

[Marmot]

quote=Marmot post_id=752646 time=1615662230 user_id=288
Kyle, you've proven to be poor at performing that particular task on at least one occasion
/quote

only because I was holding back

now you can see my true power

I feel like my quote is being taken out of context brackets

[Jackofhearts2005]

quote=Marmot post_id=752646 time=1615662230 user_id=288
Kyle, you've proven to be poor at performing that particular task on at least one occasion
/quote

only because I was holding back

now you can see my true power

[TonyStarkPrime]

poe: lc, dom, jack, chop, marmot, poison, Kyle
we probably have to (and probably can) take one name out of this poe to win


lesser poe: martin, daisy, epi, grogu
there's probably one wolf here. hopefully we'll find them with mech or something

[Marmot]

poe: lc, dom, jack, chop, marmot, poison, Kyle
we probably have to (and probably can) take one name out of this poe to win


lesser poe: martin, daisy, epi, grogu
there's probably one wolf here. hopefully we'll find them with mech or something

Yeah, a 7-player poe aint gonna cut it.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Urist is almost certainly not w/w with Made. Made made a point of needling Urist repeatedly and Urist did not appear to be in on it

I think Urist is town but I think this is dangerous reasoning. Made replaced into a slot that had been essentially been read peeked. He was in antispew for his whole career.

Spoiler: show

Which is why smart players like me just voted Made and skipped the rest of the day. rollsafe.png

yeah I think there's a chance made just miscalculated and didn't think he could get out of it and might have gone for this. I'm thinking more about that day from urist's perspective and also I had urist as my highest tr out of like d1 so the made stuff is just the easiest explanation point

[TonyStarkPrime]

poe: lc, dom, jack, chop, marmot, poison, Kyle
we probably have to (and probably can) take one name out of this poe to win


lesser poe: martin, daisy, epi, grogu
there's probably one wolf here. hopefully we'll find them with mech or something

Yeah, a 7-player poe aint gonna cut it.

idk take out dom because he's towny or jack because he's not towny and would be if he were a wolf

[TonyStarkPrime]

those are just the names I haven't been able to color yet

[TonyStarkPrime]

Urist is almost certainly not w/w with Made. Made made a point of needling Urist repeatedly and Urist did not appear to be in on it

I think Urist is town but I think this is dangerous reasoning. Made replaced into a slot that had been essentially been read peeked. He was in antispew for his whole career.

Spoiler: show

Which is why smart players like me just voted Made and skipped the rest of the day. rollsafe.png

yeah I think there's a chance made just miscalculated and didn't think he could get out of it and might have gone for this. I'm thinking more about that day from urist's perspective and also I had urist as my highest tr out of like d1 so the made stuff is just the easiest explanation point

welll not highest but you know

[Jackofhearts2005]

What are you talking about? I’m so townie I literally can’t rand wolf lately. Qed.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Tfw you have to iso yourself because you’re sure you trust Marmot, Kyle and LC but that might be in an alternate universe.

[Marmot]

Tfw you have to iso yourself because you’re sure you trust Marmot, Kyle and LC but that might be in an alternate universe.

Yeah, not sure why you trust me, I've slanked lately.

[Epignosis]

[Jackofhearts2005]

Tfw you have to iso yourself because you’re sure you trust Marmot, Kyle and LC but that might be in an alternate universe.

Yeah, not sure why you trust me, I've slanked lately.

I’m trying not to talk about other games is what I’m saying.

[Kylemii]

whatever energy you planned on spending on casing me could basically be better spent helping me catch up by giving me the gossip on each character I vote for one by one until I've gone through the whole list

[Gavial]

why are you mentally preflipping chop?

Because I don’t buy the whole mech conspiracy Urist is thinking of and because all of the VCA and NKA points that way and because his posts have been consistently wolft and because his treatment of Made is heavily teammate indicative and because he literally scum slipped (and TMIed Sloonei as enclave kill etc) in the thread and we all decided he was a wolf and nothing has changed

Fake.
Also if you assume Sloon was Enclave kill then why would I message someone who was gonna die anyway?

[Gavial]

Unless your calling me Slaver

[Gavial]

[VOTE: chopchop] aubergine
I'm done

Your gonna PL me this late in the game?
It makes more sense to have done it sooner no?
Also Slaver hasn’t claimed yet and you said you wouldn’t vote me unless slaver claims.
You lair!

[Jackofhearts2005]

Me: Do I townread Marmot here on his own merits or based on another game? Let me check.

Jack’s ISO: Read list blah blah blah Marmot - I think I townread Marmit but I might be thinking of another game.

Thanks, past me. Very helpful.

A little more digging shows that I mind melded a bit with Marmot over the idea that Chop’s D1 push on me was bad but since I now believe Chop to be town, that’s not as convincing wrt Marmot’s alignment. I’ll dig some more into him later but he’s still in the poe for me.

[Gavial]

Hey
@Jackofhearts2005
Since everyone has seemed to ignore you since D2 onwards let me enlighten you!
I think that you could be scum.
What if I told you that I took a sneak peek, and your scum.
What if I told you that you never receive this low of suspicion unless your scum.
What if I told you that I haven’t seen much from you and what exactly can you do to show me you have been Townie this game?

I’d tell you that’s mechanically impossible because I’m not and you claimed a role that iirc, doesn’t have peeks.

I’d tell you that your knowledge of my meta is out of date.

I’d refer you to my entire iso.

Why are there votes on Kyle atp?

Thanks for responding.
What’s your read on Kyle?