Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [AMERICA RISES]

[Jackofhearts2005]

I missed Syn’s claim. Link or recap?

[Long Con]

Ngl my main hesitation in voting Tony is that I feel like I should have a solid read on him and he says I should townread him and I’d be kinda embarrassed to misyeet himnotreal

That’s not a good reason to actually townread him.

He’s doing that because he thinks he’s a good wolf!


If you believe that he’s a wolf and you have lots of information that points towards that you push it.
As long as you point your reasons why, there’s no em brass meant.

Oh, that's rich.

But Tony is pretty suspicious right? I'll [VOTE: Tony] aubergine

[TonyStarkPrime]

Syn claimed to have shot KZA in a past life

[Jackofhearts2005]

Poisyn is pretty good. They should hydra.

What about Uristofhearts?

The best I can do is team with Golden and be like “HeartofGold” or something.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I’ll kill all of you

[Urist]

it doesn’t make sense for Chop to do that.

this makes more sense as an argument for why he would tbh

[Syn]

Spoiler: show

outing other peoples' roles is not very pro-town behaviour

*glances at Nanook wrt Poison*

oh am I already outed

outing other peoples' roles is not very pro-town behaviour

*glances at Nanook wrt Poison*

oh am I already outed

They guessed you as a Redding, Sheriff Marion.

Sheriff Marion

You're the law in Redding, and when anyone runs afoul of it you're their first and only encounter before they find themselves locked up. You take your work seriously like a classic sheriff of the wild west, though your bum leg is hampering your effectiveness.

You're a 1-shot conditional vigilante. Your bum leg doesn't stop you from capping highwaymen trying hassling the town. Once during the game during any night phase, you may select a player. That player will be killed. However, if that player is the last living member of their faction, you will deliberately miss with a merciful warning shot. The player will not be notified of your warning shot.

Separately, you're a 2-shot limited doublevoter. You won't put up with much bullshit from the jet-wasted miners around Redding and will always put them in their places unless they all gang up on you. Twice during the game during any separate day phases, you may elect to double your vote. This will not function, however, if you are either tied for the poll lead or in second place.

Nothing mech-confirmed about it, but I determined it was a plausible thing for my own undisclosed reasons.

outing other peoples' roles is not very pro-town behaviour

*glances at Nanook wrt Poison*

oh am I already outed

They guessed you as a Redding, Sheriff Marion.

Sheriff Marion

You're the law in Redding, and when anyone runs afoul of it you're their first and only encounter before they find themselves locked up. You take your work seriously like a classic sheriff of the wild west, though your bum leg is hampering your effectiveness.

You're a 1-shot conditional vigilante. Your bum leg doesn't stop you from capping highwaymen trying hassling the town. Once during the game during any night phase, you may select a player. That player will be killed. However, if that player is the last living member of their faction, you will deliberately miss with a merciful warning shot. The player will not be notified of your warning shot.

Separately, you're a 2-shot limited doublevoter. You won't put up with much bullshit from the jet-wasted miners around Redding and will always put them in their places unless they all gang up on you. Twice during the game during any separate day phases, you may elect to double your vote. This will not function, however, if you are either tied for the poll lead or in second place.

Nothing mech-confirmed about it, but I determined it was a plausible thing for my own undisclosed reasons.

yeah that's right

no shot anymore tho

who did you shoot?

who did you try to shoot

outing other peoples' roles is not very pro-town behaviour

*glances at Nanook wrt Poison*

oh am I already outed

They guessed you as a Redding, Sheriff Marion.

Sheriff Marion

You're the law in Redding, and when anyone runs afoul of it you're their first and only encounter before they find themselves locked up. You take your work seriously like a classic sheriff of the wild west, though your bum leg is hampering your effectiveness.

You're a 1-shot conditional vigilante. Your bum leg doesn't stop you from capping highwaymen trying hassling the town. Once during the game during any night phase, you may select a player. That player will be killed. However, if that player is the last living member of their faction, you will deliberately miss with a merciful warning shot. The player will not be notified of your warning shot.

Separately, you're a 2-shot limited doublevoter. You won't put up with much bullshit from the jet-wasted miners around Redding and will always put them in their places unless they all gang up on you. Twice during the game during any separate day phases, you may elect to double your vote. This will not function, however, if you are either tied for the poll lead or in second place.

Nothing mech-confirmed about it, but I determined it was a plausible thing for my own undisclosed reasons.

yeah that's right

no shot anymore tho

........oh dear.

I'm afraid to ask: Who did she shoot?

nah Poison shot KZA

nah Poison shot KZA

You know who also has a shot?
That auto spawning Enclave guy.

@Jackofhearts2005

[Urist]

oh i forgot that dom is lockscum too so throw him in there

Yes there’s 5 Wolves.

so you're not denying that my list is correct?
boom game solved biatches

[Jackofhearts2005]

it doesn’t make sense for Chop to do that.

this makes more sense as an argument for why he would tbh

Why? Wolves go off script if something bad happens.

Like Daisy unexpectedly rejecting a notepass.

[Urist]

MartonyGG99

[Kylemii]

actually i do shoot sloonei because I always shoot sloonei but don't pay attention to that and i probably shoot sloonei night 1 so regardless

Lol. Gottem.

[VOTE: Tony] aubergine

I’ll sheep this one too!
@Kylemii
Come Join!

If I vote tony now it will reward you for ignoring my request :[

[Kylemii]

also I'm doing something

[MartinGG99]

I dunno if I’m ever going to convince Martin that the guy he’s been town-shielding all game is still clearly not town but I offer the humble suggestion that he consider the possibility

Tbh I'll consider it if there's another BoS out there.

If not, then he's very likely that Luke guy.

[Kylemii]

talk

[Kylemii]

to

[Kylemii]

me

[Kylemii]

about

[Kylemii]

[VOTE: goku] aubergine

[MartinGG99]

I didn’t say this but I kinda wanna lock town Kyle for admitting he’s sheeping marmot

I think I can concur on that, but I'm not sure why he would sheep marmot in particular.

What bothers me tho (in general) is that it feels like a lot of the players I've looked at are acting uninformed or are displaying that a bit well, off the top of my head

Unless we're going to assume there's 0% enclave among the lower-activity &/or multigaming/multitabling slots.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I didn’t say this but I kinda wanna lock town Kyle for admitting he’s sheeping marmot

I think I can concur on that, but I'm not sure why he would sheep marmot in particular.

What bothers me tho (in general) is that it feels like a lot of the players I've looked at are acting uninformed or are displaying that a bit well, off the top of my head

Unless we're going to assume there's 0% enclave among the lower-activity &/or multigaming/multitabling slots.

I was leaning towards 100% that

[Long Con]

[VOTE: goku] aubergine

[MartinGG99]

[VOTE: alison] aubergine

just gonna go down the list until I hit someone not confirmed

Well from your perspective she's technically confirmed not-your-enemey.

Alison is confirmed pracitcally to be New Reno or Slaver. While you do have slaver as an enemy (for Redding), there's an important part I want to point out:

Redding wins the game if the Enclave are eliminated and no more than one combined between the Slavers faction and Jagged Jimmy J is left alive.

Jagged Jimmy J was mod-killed on D2 due to an accident. Therefore, you don't need slaver dead anymore (as that doesn't further your wincon anymore).

The only thing is, is that Slaver needs you dead (as they need 80% of their enemies dead) and they are now an enemy of a lesser degree if they prevent you from killing Enclave.

Like TL;DR You don't need Alison (even if slaver) dead anymore, the only difference that makes is if they need you dead.

[MartinGG99]

I didn’t say this but I kinda wanna lock town Kyle for admitting he’s sheeping marmot

I think I can concur on that, but I'm not sure why he would sheep marmot in particular.

What bothers me tho (in general) is that it feels like a lot of the players I've looked at are acting uninformed or are displaying that a bit well, off the top of my head

Unless we're going to assume there's 0% enclave among the lower-activity &/or multigaming/multitabling slots.

I was leaning towards 100% that

what 100% that

[MartinGG99]

The Brotherhood of Steel wins the game if the Enclave are eliminated and no more than one member of the Vault City and Slavers factions combined is left alive.

@ChopChop

You don't need the slaver, whoever that is, dead anymore as Vault City died and Slaver can be "that one member" left alive in your wincon completion.

[MartinGG99]

Actually if my understanding of the gamestate and the wincons are right

basically everyone but Arroyo and Hubologists have likely for certain completed the non-enclave wincondition, and just need enclave dead at this point

[TonyStarkPrime]

I didn’t say this but I kinda wanna lock town Kyle for admitting he’s sheeping marmot

I think I can concur on that, but I'm not sure why he would sheep marmot in particular.

What bothers me tho (in general) is that it feels like a lot of the players I've looked at are acting uninformed or are displaying that a bit well, off the top of my head

Unless we're going to assume there's 0% enclave among the lower-activity &/or multigaming/multitabling slots.

I was leaning towards 100% that

what 100% that

100 percent enclave in the lower activity slots (and chop)

[TonyStarkPrime]

the only high activity slots who aren't dead are me and urist and Martin so given that I think me and urist and martin are town

[TonyStarkPrime]

(I'm asterisking Alison)

[Alison]

is it guaranteed that there's at least 1 member of each faction in the game? I can't find that info anywhere in the setup post

[MartinGG99]

Well ugh since you won’t do it.
SPF/Martin/Alison/Sloon/Grogu Contains at least 1 scum.
By my evaluation last night.

for the record, he's probably on this and we can cross three names off this list (also lol he pulled rej from the possible scum on the wagon)

The only one there who can still be maf is Martin.

Yeah, no. I laid the groundwork for being almost completely mech confirmed (though not absolutely) with my breadcrumbs long ago.

[MartinGG99]

is it guaranteed that there's at least 1 member of each faction in the game? I can't find that info anywhere in the setup post

I thought there was? It was in Assurances I think.

[TonyStarkPrime]

yeah each faction contains at least one player

[TonyStarkPrime]

someone claim BOS so I can blast chop without feeling bad

[MartinGG99]

- Each faction contains at least one player. That is the only numeral guarantee.

This is what I could find. I thought there used to be stuff about Enclave and Wastelanders being larger but I can't find it any more.

[TonyStarkPrime]

- Each faction contains at least one player. That is the only numeral guarantee.

This is what I could find. I thought there used to be stuff about Enclave and Wastelanders being larger but I can't find it any more.

enclave and wastelanders being larger is at the top

[MartinGG99]

Btw I seriously seriously doubt Syn's claim. Poison shooting kza does not add up at all.

"Does not add up at all"

Kinda expect that from a player who hadn't been in the game for more than, say, 6-8 hours by EoD3. After all, they did joke about KZA flipping scum on D2.

[Long Con]

We were told when Vault City was entirely eliminated. Will we be told when each other faction is eliminated?

[Dom]

lol @ folks saying shit like i'm lockscum yet they never vote for me or longer than 10 minutes

cowards

[Dom]

We were told when Vault City was entirely eliminated. Will we be told when each other faction is eliminated?

host said not about civ aligned ones


who should i vote for

[MartinGG99]

- Each faction contains at least one player. That is the only numeral guarantee.

This is what I could find. I thought there used to be stuff about Enclave and Wastelanders being larger but I can't find it any more.

enclave and wastelanders being larger is at the top

Oh yeah there it is.

- The number of roles listed under each faction has no bearing on the actual number of players within each faction with the exception of the Wastelanders and the Enclave, who each have large populations relative to the rest.

[Gavial]

oh i forgot that dom is lockscum too so throw him in there

Yes there’s 5 Wolves.

so you're not denying that my list is correct?
boom game solved biatches

Can’t wait to see the look on your face when Tony flips Wolf.

[TonyStarkPrime]

We were told when Vault City was entirely eliminated. Will we be told when each other faction is eliminated?

No, just VC. Host said so.

[Long Con]

We were told when Vault City was entirely eliminated. Will we be told when each other faction is eliminated?

host said not about civ aligned ones


who should i vote for

You wanna get on the Tony train?

[MartinGG99]

Re-read Jack's progression and the context of some of his reads for D4 (including the fact that he had a whole reads-wall on SoD4) maybe I'm judging him a bit too harshly. I kinda wonder what made me (on his reads) jump from an "Idk" to a "Projecting town" thing by mid D2, @Jackofhearts2005 do you remember why?

[VOTE: Kylemii] aubergine

For now.

I didn’t pay attention to you D1 and you seemed to be projecting town by mid D2.

.....you realize that the "D2" there was a typo and I corrected it to Mid/late D4 right?

[TonyStarkPrime]

can i at least have the people who want to vote for me read the game

[Gavial]

lol @ folks saying shit like i'm lockscum yet they never vote for me or longer than 10 minutes

cowards

Urist is one of them.

[Dom]

we think tony's enclave? or slaver? i got lost in my like 12 page catch up

[Kylemii]

[VOTE: grogu] aubergine

[Gavial]

Tony is my lockscum, that’s why I’m voting them.

[Dom]

lol @ folks saying shit like i'm lockscum yet they never vote for me or longer than 10 minutes

cowards

Urist is one of them.

yes i did read the thread