Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [AMERICA RISES]

[TonyStarkPrime]

we think tony's enclave? or slaver? i got lost in my like 12 page catch up

we think he's vt

[Gavial]

we think tony's enclave? or slaver? i got lost in my like 12 page catch up

Enclave

[TonyStarkPrime]

or close enough

[Kylemii]

talk to me about Grokus, Yoda Jr.

[Gavial]

we think tony's enclave? or slaver? i got lost in my like 12 page catch up

we think he's vt

Flavour?

[TonyStarkPrime]

i can't see any of the posts being made by the other person right now but I'm sure he's saying I'm lock slaver and enclave at the same time

[MartinGG99]

ok here are the people I just cannot come up with a reason to tr:

Kyle
Syn
Marmot

And here's chop:
Chop

wolf team?

Syn's the only Redding unless someone wants to cc that

Or maybe there's two reddings, but idk about that.

[Kylemii]

Gronkus

[TonyStarkPrime]

talk to me about Grokus, Yoda Jr.

there are reasons to think he's likely town due to mech and he's not around enough to actually get a claim out of. one to watch.

[Gavial]

If you wanna claim VT and not give a name that’s the equivalent to a scum claim Tony.

[TonyStarkPrime]

ok here are the people I just cannot come up with a reason to tr:

Kyle
Syn
Marmot

And here's chop:
Chop

wolf team?

Syn's the only Redding unless someone wants to cc that

Or maybe there's two reddings, but idk about that.

yep wasn't even thinking about that req

[TonyStarkPrime]

wait lemme check

[Gavial]

wait lemme check

Yeah go check your fake Rolecard and then get back to me on your flavour make.

[Gavial]

Name*

[TonyStarkPrime]

I think? urist softed a redding but I've been very offbase so far this game with soft guesses

[MartinGG99]

Urist is almost certainly not w/w with Made. Made made a point of needling Urist repeatedly and Urist did not appear to be in on it

I think Urist is town but I think this is dangerous reasoning. Made replaced into a slot that had been essentially been read peeked. He was in antispew for his whole career.

Spoiler: show

Which is why smart players like me just voted Made and skipped the rest of the day. rollsafe.png

THANK YOU

AT LEAST SOMEONE ELSE HERE DOESN'T CARE FOR POTENTIAL ANTI-SPEW

(Unlike some people telling me that I should be reading into it / not ignoring it....)

[TonyStarkPrime]

it's not why urist is town smh urist is town because reading the game is a skill the wolf team is clearly not displaying here

[TonyStarkPrime]

And for how he treated LC day 1 though I'd like to get followup for that

[Gavial]

it's not why urist is town smh urist is town because reading the game is a skill the wolf team is clearly not displaying here

Clearly eh?

[Kylemii]

[VOTE: what has epignosis been op to] aubergine

[Marmot]

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine why is this wrong

it's probably not

please expand on this if u don't mind

[VOTE: long con] aubergine what's this guy's deal

day 5 lc chops feel like they always go poorly

As for marmot, I just see no reason to TR him to be honest. He feels like he's reading the game but is purposely acting oblivious and hasn't expressed a consistent set of beliefs.

Can you explain this more? That's a pretty heavy-handed accusation to toss around.

[TonyStarkPrime]

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine why is this wrong

it's probably not

please expand on this if u don't mind

[VOTE: long con] aubergine what's this guy's deal

day 5 lc chops feel like they always go poorly

As for marmot, I just see no reason to TR him to be honest. He feels like he's reading the game but is purposely acting oblivious and hasn't expressed a consistent set of beliefs.

Can you explain this more? That's a pretty heavy-handed accusation to toss around.

which part

[Dom]

I awnt a tie

=[VOTE: kyle] aubergine

[Long Con]

[VOTE: what has epignosis been op to] aubergine

Being shady. I think he's Enclave.

[Dom]

when's this poll over?

[Marmot]

[VOTE: marmot] aubergine why is this wrong

it's probably not

please expand on this if u don't mind

[VOTE: long con] aubergine what's this guy's deal

day 5 lc chops feel like they always go poorly

As for marmot, I just see no reason to TR him to be honest. He feels like he's reading the game but is purposely acting oblivious and hasn't expressed a consistent set of beliefs.

Can you explain this more? That's a pretty heavy-handed accusation to toss around.

which part

All of it.

[Epignosis]

[Dom]

do we trust marmot?

[Gavial]

I awnt a tie

=[VOTE: kyle] aubergine

You Tony’s Pack Member?

[Gavial]

Lol.
LockTown.

[Marmot]

Feels frantic right now but there's so much time left in the yeet.

Why do things feel frantic? The thread feels fairly steady imo.

[Marmot]

do we trust marmot?

I don't know why anyone would trust me tbh.

[Dom]

I awnt a tie

=[VOTE: kyle] aubergine

You Tony’s Pack Member?

lol no

[Gavial]

do we trust marmot?

The real question is,
Do we trust Tony?
Because we shouldn’t.

[Marmot]

at some point we should talk about how Made didn't claim until an hour after spacedaisy showed up to the thread

really limiting team combos here

you know it's possible that chopchop isn't even a messenger, we only have spacedaisy's word lol

This isn't a great argument

[Dom]

I don't trust tony
I need some slavers dead too.

[Gavial]

Don’t know why you don’t see this Urist.
Tony was pocketing Nanook until Nanook caught him.
Tony killed him then pocket you instead

[Gavial]

I don't trust tony
I need some slavers dead too.

Guess you claiming BOS as well?
Yeah well there’s only one Slaver so we just focus on Enclave.

[Gavial]

If we were focusing on Slaver we would all be voting Alison RN.

[MartinGG99]

at some point we should talk about how Made didn't claim until an hour after spacedaisy showed up to the thread

really limiting team combos here

you know it's possible that chopchop isn't even a messenger, we only have spacedaisy's word lol

That's a good point but rn with how SD handled it d2 (which was towny imo) and that Chop is the only BoS claim

I kinda have to believe otherwise

[Dom]

How do we know there's only one?

And you can make whatever you want of that info I gave you.

[MartinGG99]

If we were focusing on Slaver we would all be voting Alison RN.

Slaver isn't needed for you to win anymore. It used to be, but once Vault City died it doesn't really further your goals anymore.

You should've read my @ChopChop recently.

[Urist]

I think? urist softed a redding but I've been very offbase so far this game with soft guesses

I've softed a lot of things

[Urist]

And for how he treated LC day 1 though I'd like to get followup for that

I thought lc was vc bc c4 was enclave

[Marmot]

the only high activity slots who aren't dead are me and urist and Martin so given that I think me and urist and martin are town

Huh?

Alison has more posts than Urist or Martin
I have more posts than Martin, and roughly the same as Urist.


I don't really understand some of your takes today.

[Marmot]

And for how he treated LC day 1 though I'd like to get followup for that

I thought lc was vc bc c4 was enclave

c4 was enclave?

[TonyStarkPrime]

it's probably not

please expand on this if u don't mind

[VOTE: long con] aubergine what's this guy's deal

day 5 lc chops feel like they always go poorly

As for marmot, I just see no reason to TR him to be honest. He feels like he's reading the game but is purposely acting oblivious and hasn't expressed a consistent set of beliefs.

Can you explain this more? That's a pretty heavy-handed accusation to toss around.

which part

All of it.

First let me cover with "don't have a reason to townread" is not the same as "is bottom poe". But I think the following is true:
1) you are one of the top posters and have presented yourself generally in an opposition role, like Tim in GOC or whatever. That's fine by itself, but in a game where town unity is lacking, I think that it presents itself poorly.
2) I think your case on Martin was poorly reasoned yesterday and your determination to sheep nanook on daisy was questionable as well, though I just read your ISO and you do have a thing for this daisy / LC day 1 slip. Honestly, I could buy that.
2a) One reason I found it questionable is that it didn't seem to me like you were looking for a specific set of characteristics. You didn't like how Martin did X, but you didn't mention or expressed support for the others who did the same thing
3) The sloonei stuff
4) Despite the fact that you seemed to be working yesterday, (see 2: you cased martin), today you came in and it felt like you presented yourself as sorta lost. I think scum has advantages in doing that.

These things are what went into the things I said here. This is not the same as the question of whether I think you're wolf or town. Two other things that go into that question

1) VCA is pretty bad for you. Now VCA generally requires people to be acting rationally, wolves haven't demonstrated that this game, etc.etc.
2) I frankly think your progression on Chop is not town. You voted him on Day 2 and said numerous times that he was wolfy (before voting for and dedicating most of your time to sloonei) , didn't touch him on Day 3, and you're sure he's town by day 4. something went wrong here. Now, confbias but whatever.

[Urist]

And for how he treated LC day 1 though I'd like to get followup for that

I thought lc was vc bc c4 was enclave

c4 was enclave?

That's what i thought d1 sure

[Alison]

Urist are you BOS

[TonyStarkPrime]

at some point we should talk about how Made didn't claim until an hour after spacedaisy showed up to the thread

really limiting team combos here

you know it's possible that chopchop isn't even a messenger, we only have spacedaisy's word lol

This isn't a great argument

it's more a joke than an argument