Fallout 2: A Post-Nuclear Mafia Game [AMERICA RISES]

[Long Con]

[VOTE: Chop] aubergine Sorry, Epi, I am a believer.

[Urist]

sorta think alison's avoiding the thread here

I’m not worried about Alison. We know what she is and she will help us more than harm us. Let’s kill the wolves first.

at this point alison is going to lose unless she does something antitown. she still needs a Redding person dead.

[Gavial]

Ok I’m just gonna self hammer.
Not lying when I said I messaged Sloon though I really did it’s just my wolf buds thought it was funny to kill them and piss me off.
I’m practically caught wolf anyway because I made the wrong choice, nothing I can do.
@Alison If you have a shot left, shoot Kyle.

[Gavial]

@JaggedJimmyJay

[MartinGG99]

5. All voting will be decided by plurality at the day phase deadlines. There is no majority or hammer vote.

@'ing the host about it probably isn't going to rush things.

[Dom]

Day 5 has ended.

Dom has been eliminated. He was:

Spoiler: show

Aunt Morlis of Arroyo

Night 5 is underway. You have until 6:00 PM EDT tomorrow to get your night actions to me. The day will begin one hour later.

beware beware teh ides of march

[Urist]

Ok I’m just gonna self hammer.
Not lying when I said I messaged Sloon though I really did it’s just my wolf buds thought it was funny to kill them and piss me off.
I’m practically caught wolf anyway because I made the wrong choice, nothing I can do.
@Alison If you have a shot left, shoot Kyle.

your wolf friends are my kinda people

[MartinGG99]

The dead towns
BoKnows - Wastelander
c4e5g3d5 - Wastelander
DrWilgy - Wastelander
falcon45ca - Jagged Jimmy J
Rej - New Reno
staypositivefriend - Hubologist
Sloonei - Wastelander
KZA - NCR
NANOOK - NCR

The town-read; some aren't 100% cleared but for my theory purposes they are.
Epignosis - Chosen One / Arroyo
reywaS / Kylemii - Matt / BoS
MartinGG99 - Louis / New Reno
TonyStarkPrime - IDK what exactly he is but I think he's lock-town or a wolf I would lose to
Urist - Some sort of protective; May be one of our only protectives.
Poison / Syn / Seanzie - Likely Sheriff Marion / Only Redding?

The likely or possible towns
Grogu - Hubologist
Long Con - Wastelander

To Be Determined
Jackofhearts2005 - Unkown
Marmot - Unkown
Spacedaisy / sprityo - Unkown; should be re-evaluated in light of Wolf chop chop.

Slaver
Alison - Slaver

Vault City (Dead)
MacDougall - Vault City
Esooa - Vault City

Enclave
ChopChop - Enclave
Daughter of Omega - Enclave

So my current **working theory** of the game clears Epi + Urist + Me + TSP + Kylemii + Seanzie

Alison 100% as slaver

And if there's any towns left its probably Grogu and LC.

Everyone else should probably be re-evaluated imo. Possibly including Space Daisy / Sprityo.


Oh and btw I thought about Urist possibly being a fake protective and the scum doing something dumb such as shooting Alison since slaver has a vest but I think that would've changed ChopChop's "result" and visit earlier.

[MartinGG99]

Yeah I'm fairly sure everyone in my town-read pile is town.

Only doubt I can imagine is if Poison / Syn / Seanzie happens to be an enclave vigilante, but given they're the only Redding that I know of, I'm not really looking to evaluate them in-depth. At a glance though nothing really pinged me from that slot on a serious level.

[MartinGG99]

Oh and I forgot to include Dom in the dead towns list. Woops.

[MartinGG99]

I’m practically caught wolf anyway because I made the wrong choice, nothing I can do.

IIRC I think I was going to scum-read you more for simply choosing Epignosis anyways, plus with the protective claim even if you said Alison was a slaver I would still have doubts in my mind about you.

[MartinGG99]

Someone should put a vote on Alison.

You are an intimidator. For every three consecutive day phases in which you do not receive a vote in the final poll tally, you will begin the following phase with one vote automatically removed from you in the elimination poll. These do not stack.

[MartinGG99]

Well, actually guys could do that.

I don't particularly mind as a New Reno member unless it helps Enclave which Alison may have to.

[MartinGG99]

You guys could do that*

[Urist]

ideal play might actually be to execute alison here. we're at odd numbers so if she has a shot left and decides to shoot a Redding player we lose an execution.
if we think alison might have a shot still, we should execute her now.

[Seanzie]

ideal play might actually be to execute alison here. we're at odd numbers so if she has a shot left and decides to shoot a Redding player we lose an execution.
if we think alison might have a shot still, we should execute her now.

The Big Bad Frank Horrigan may also have a shot left, so yeeting Alison would be gambling that Frank does not have a shot left, but Alison does, whereas in all other ways that Frank or Alison could have a shot left, yeeting Alison is suboptimal.

[Urist]

ideal play might actually be to execute alison here. we're at odd numbers so if she has a shot left and decides to shoot a Redding player we lose an execution.
if we think alison might have a shot still, we should execute her now.

The Big Bad Frank Horrigan may also have a shot left, so yeeting Alison would be gambling that Frank does not have a shot left, but Alison does, whereas in all other ways that Frank or Alison could have a shot left, yeeting Alison is suboptimal.

you already used your shot tho

[Seanzie]

ideal play might actually be to execute alison here. we're at odd numbers so if she has a shot left and decides to shoot a Redding player we lose an execution.
if we think alison might have a shot still, we should execute her now.

The Big Bad Frank Horrigan may also have a shot left, so yeeting Alison would be gambling that Frank does not have a shot left, but Alison does, whereas in all other ways that Frank or Alison could have a shot left, yeeting Alison is suboptimal.

you already used your shot tho

Yes, my slot did. Frank and Slaver both could still be primed though (and likely one is since we've only seen 2 extra NKs and I can vouch for one), and if Frank is, then yeeting Slaver here doesn't save us a day.

[Marmot]

ideal play might actually be to execute alison here. we're at odd numbers so if she has a shot left and decides to shoot a Redding player we lose an execution.
if we think alison might have a shot still, we should execute her now.

I disagree. We also lose a yeet if we yeet Alison here.

[Marmot]

Also, remember last time ChopChop was basically an outed wolf and we said "He isn't dangerous, we can just yeet him tomorrow"?


I'll refer you to my signature in how that can pan out.

[Urist]

Also, remember last time ChopChop was basically an outed wolf and we said "He isn't dangerous, we can just yeet him tomorrow"?


I'll refer you to my signature in how that can pan out.

i have signatures turned off so your cautionary tale is falling on deaf ears

[Marmot]

I think we should also figure out whether or not ChopChop can send a message, and thus figure out if Spacedaisy is definitely a teammate who was in on the gambit or not.

[Marmot]

"Just how many days of "let's yeet them tomorrow" can a mafioso survive?

The answer: all of them, if you are a marmot."

[Urist]

ideal play might actually be to execute alison here. we're at odd numbers so if she has a shot left and decides to shoot a Redding player we lose an execution.
if we think alison might have a shot still, we should execute her now.

I disagree. We also lose a yeet if we yeet Alison here.

i think you're overestimating alison's benevolence if you think she's going to townside lmao
but whatever i'm fine with axing choppity as well.

[Marmot]

ideal play might actually be to execute alison here. we're at odd numbers so if she has a shot left and decides to shoot a Redding player we lose an execution.
if we think alison might have a shot still, we should execute her now.

I disagree. We also lose a yeet if we yeet Alison here.

i think you're overestimating alison's benevolence if you think she's going to townside lmao
but whatever i'm fine with axing choppity as well.

I get where you're coming from, but we've only chopped one Enclave so far. I think we should hold off on Alison for now.

[Urist]

[VOTE: alison] aubergine
in protest

[Seanzie]

Can someone walk me through the case why Urist is town? Is it just because of their claim earlier today about protecting Epi, or is there more to the story?

[Marmot]

Can someone walk me through the case why Urist is town? Is it just because of their claim earlier today about protecting Epi, or is there more to the story?

When Omega was caught, she and Urist kinda got a heated convo iirc, and it didn't look w/w at all.

[Marmot]

I also think I know Urist's role. (I figured one out!!!)


Grogu is the one I'm trying to figure out rn if we believe his claim.

[Seanzie]

Can someone walk me through the case why Urist is town? Is it just because of their claim earlier today about protecting Epi, or is there more to the story?

When Omega was caught, she and Urist kinda got a heated convo iirc, and it didn't look w/w at all.

Okay, I will look at that convo when I have time later.

[Marmot]

Can someone walk me through the case why Urist is town? Is it just because of their claim earlier today about protecting Epi, or is there more to the story?

When Omega was caught, she and Urist kinda got a heated convo iirc, and it didn't look w/w at all.

Okay, I will look at that convo when I have time later.

Well, it was kinda one-sided now that I look at it, but Urist handled it in a manner that feels a little abrasive and not teamy.

Convo starts here.

[Marmot]

What is Grogu's role? Orville Wright? AHS-9?

He implicated falcon on Day 2, and also claimed green on Day 1, and these are the only two roles I can find that could do both of these things.

[Alison]

sorry I was v/la what's up

did I get outed?

[Alison]

I figure between martin and chop someone probably figured out I'm the slaver today. Really you should have realized it after what happened with falc but I guess I'm just a lucky 3P!

[Urist]

I figure between martin and chop someone probably figured out I'm the slaver today. Really you should have realized it after what happened with falc but I guess I'm just a lucky 3P!

chop claimed you're not the slaver at SoD

[Alison]

[VOTE: chopchop] aubergine

[Alison]

sorta think alison's avoiding the thread here

I’m not worried about Alison. We know what she is and she will help us more than harm us. Let’s kill the wolves first.

feelsGOCman

[Marmot]

I figure between martin and chop someone probably figured out I'm the slaver today. Really you should have realized it after what happened with falc but I guess I'm just a lucky 3P!

I figured there would be less distraction if we just pretended you were town.

[Urist]

alison did you use your night vig?

[Alison]

I figure between martin and chop someone probably figured out I'm the slaver today. Really you should have realized it after what happened with falc but I guess I'm just a lucky 3P!

chop claimed you're not the slaver at SoD

imo exe him for lying, martin knows the truth (btsc'd me and can only btsc slaver)

[Marmot]

Chop has already admitted he's wolf, so yeah

[Alison]

My win condition is probably not achievable unless both kyle and whoever is from redding dies, so as far as I'm concerned the day phases this game do not exist and I'm just waiting for the night

[Marmot]

Actually, Grogu could also be this role: Dangerous Dan McGrew.

[Alison]

alison did you use your night vig?

would you believe me if I said I did?

[Urist]

i choose to believe chopchop
about alison not being the slaver, not about the wolf-claim

[Urist]

alison did you use your night vig?

would you believe me if I said I did?

depends who you claim a shot on

[Marmot]

i choose to believe chopchop
about alison not being the slaver, not about the wolf-claim

[Alison]

afaict all the people I need gone to win are confirmed town.

So mafia are going to kill them at night anyway.

So I'm just going to stick around in the thread and have a nice nap and hope the mafia don't get killed before they win for me. Best of luck!

[Marmot]

I don't think Grogu is Hubo, Urist, if that makes you feel better.

[Marmot]

But also, I am Hubo, so