Magic the Gathering Mafia - Game Over - Mafia has won!

[Long Con]

LC is claiming my role. I think he might be the reason Jack didn’t get my gift.

Mafia have customized fake claims.

My role is real. I think LC copied it or somehow took the leaf I was giving Jack. It’s called a mana leaf. The properties hk gives are slightly off from what I make though. You have to spend one mana to make two more of one color (so it doesn’t “boost it by two”). Could have easily just missed the cost though.

Well, I have given out Mana Leafs to two living people. Did I copy your role permanently?

[Long Con]

The questions are:
1) Why would LC lie so openly while I’m still alive?
2) Why not silence me immediately after?

Mac also suspected LC though, and his block ability could be perceived as the bigger threat. Did they just think I wouldn’t notice?

You can read my ISO. I hinted at my role since Day 2 when I started posting, way before he did. It’s not a fake claim. I can make anyone a leaf tonight (I gave yesterday’s to Mac because only he and Jack volunteered when I asked...).

lol motherfuck

Great questions!

1. He probably wouldn't. Are you saying I copied you ability permanently? It's really not that compelling an ability. If I were an evil ability copier, why wouldn't I steal something that was a "bigger threat"? Hmm..

2. I don't have the ability to silence anyone.

You think giving Mana Leafs is a threat?

[Long Con]

LC is claiming my role. I think he might be the reason Jack didn’t get my gift.

Mafia have customized fake claims.

My role is real. I think LC copied it or somehow took the leaf I was giving Jack. It’s called a mana leaf. The properties hk gives are slightly off from what I make though. You have to spend one mana to make two more of one color (so it doesn’t “boost it by two”). Could have easily just missed the cost though.

Why does he need to make up such a blatantly false fake claim if he was given a customized one by the host?

I'm trying to figure that out. It's possible there are two people that hand out maple leaf cards.

If one of us is fake, it's Enrique. I'm town, my ability is Mana Leafs, and it has been from the start.

[Long Con]

someone sent me a card last night, i don't want them to claim or say what it was, just don't send again cos it's no use to me thanks.

I don't remove votes... my ability just helps people turn over a new leaf.

Immediately preceding the maple syrup conversation. Legit?

I'm sorry, I don't understand what you're trying to do here. Did you send dunya a Leaf or did I?

[Long Con]

Where the heck is LC's claim? Like where have we gotten the idea that LC specifically caused the mana thingie to go to HK instead of me?

LC acted ignorant to me not getting the leaf from Enrique.

The main thing I remember about LC's play is that he had the same reasoning as me re: giving 6 mana doesn't make Epi town AND that he then went after Epi, who had just claimed mason with dead Marmot, who had flipped mason.

It's all mixed signals, ya know?

What? I didn't go after Epi after Marmot flipped mason.

[Long Con]

You all can continue as you will but I'm asking this:

Name your top suspect.
Name your top civilian.

Epi civvy, LC sus

This is the worst. Pretty sure you can't pick a confirmed town as your top civilian, the exercise is supposed to get your opinions. And jumping on Enrique's weird fantasy is doubly shady.

Town: TSP
Scum: falcon

[Long Con]

Enrique, who have you give Leafs to each night?

[Long Con]

Looks like no one is here. I'm going to work, I'll try to check in at lunch.

[Justplayingitcool]

The mafia prioritized yeeting Wilgy over JPIC. They were both good yeet candidates, but at least Wilgy was innocent. If JPIC had been lynched and flipped civ instead we would be justified in speculating about Wilgy. It’s no guarantee of anything but the result does not make jpic look better. I want to hear people’s interpretations of this.

I think if I'm a wolf and JPIC and Wilgy are both town, I yeet JPIC. I just think he's the better player. That's not a lock. I scumread JPIC anyhow though.

This is all WIFOM though.

Nobody is asking the important question of whether the wolves controlled last phase and from my perspective, yes, they did. We've had three mischops in a row and I'm still being suspected - that sounds pretty great for the wolves, I'm the designated misyeet for D4.

Don't be surprised when I flip town and our town core have led us to another mischop. Why is nobody suspecting the people who crossvoted with each other?

[Urist]

Long Con, do you think Enrique is town or mafia?

[Justplayingitcool]

Are 112 and JPIC consensus not-town-reads?

Myself and Mac view 112 as not mafia.
Mac is dead ofc so

In my time in post cap jail I observed HK essentially outing himself as mafia. I believe HK and 112 are teammates.

[Long Con]

Long Con, do you think Enrique is town or mafia?

I think he's town. This doesn't look like a fake case, just a silly one.

[Urist]

Are 112 and JPIC consensus not-town-reads?

Myself and Mac view 112 as not mafia.
Mac is dead ofc so

In my time in post cap jail I observed HK essentially outing himself as mafia. I believe HK and 112 are teammates.

Oh right ok well maybe I'm wrong on 112. Would still prefer to axe the actively-scummy hk first.

[Justplayingitcool]

Are 112 and JPIC consensus not-town-reads?

Myself and Mac view 112 as not mafia.
Mac is dead ofc so

In my time in post cap jail I observed HK essentially outing himself as mafia. I believe HK and 112 are teammates.

Oh right ok well maybe I'm wrong on 112. Would still prefer to axe the actively-scummy hk first.

Why do you scumread HK?

[Jackofhearts2005]

The mafia prioritized yeeting Wilgy over JPIC. They were both good yeet candidates, but at least Wilgy was innocent. If JPIC had been lynched and flipped civ instead we would be justified in speculating about Wilgy. It’s no guarantee of anything but the result does not make jpic look better. I want to hear people’s interpretations of this.

I think if I'm a wolf and JPIC and Wilgy are both town, I yeet JPIC. I just think he's the better player. That's not a lock. I scumread JPIC anyhow though.

This is all WIFOM though.

Nobody is asking the important question of whether the wolves controlled last phase and from my perspective, yes, they did. We've had three mischops in a row and I'm still being suspected - that sounds pretty great for the wolves, I'm the designated misyeet for D4.

Don't be surprised when I flip town and our town core have led us to another mischop. Why is nobody suspecting the people who crossvoted with each other?

Because it’s such level one play to cross vote.

None of this feels townie. Like that’s your best lead? Cross voting?

[hollowkatt]

Are 112 and JPIC consensus not-town-reads?

Myself and Mac view 112 as not mafia.
Mac is dead ofc so

In my time in post cap jail I observed HK essentially outing himself as mafia. I believe HK and 112 are teammates.

Oh right ok well maybe I'm wrong on 112. Would still prefer to axe the actively-scummy hk first.

this, btw, is one of the reasons I scum read you so hard. you've been up my butt for days now but all you do is kvetch about it. You're not willing to actually [i[push[/i] me but you're totally willing to keep spewing "HK is a wolf guys" into the thread.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Mac: HK is outted and scum with 112.
Falcon: What makes you say that?
Mac:


So drink on this. Do wolves kill Mac if he’s accusing townies or wolves there?

[Justplayingitcool]

The mafia prioritized yeeting Wilgy over JPIC. They were both good yeet candidates, but at least Wilgy was innocent. If JPIC had been lynched and flipped civ instead we would be justified in speculating about Wilgy. It’s no guarantee of anything but the result does not make jpic look better. I want to hear people’s interpretations of this.

I think if I'm a wolf and JPIC and Wilgy are both town, I yeet JPIC. I just think he's the better player. That's not a lock. I scumread JPIC anyhow though.

This is all WIFOM though.

Nobody is asking the important question of whether the wolves controlled last phase and from my perspective, yes, they did. We've had three mischops in a row and I'm still being suspected - that sounds pretty great for the wolves, I'm the designated misyeet for D4.

Don't be surprised when I flip town and our town core have led us to another mischop. Why is nobody suspecting the people who crossvoted with each other?

Because it’s such level one play to cross vote.

None of this feels townie. Like that’s your best lead? Cross voting?

And yet that’s likely what happened. If wolves cross vote then who cares who gets yeeted as long as it’s not one of them.

What if everybody gets at least one vote. Well there you go, another town yeet.

I ask you this: did wolves control the votes or not?

[falcon45ca]

You all can continue as you will but I'm asking this:

Name your top suspect.
Name your top civilian.

Epi civvy, LC sus

This is the worst. Pretty sure you can't pick a confirmed town as your top civilian, the exercise is supposed to get your opinions. And jumping on Enrique's weird fantasy is doubly shady.

Town: TSP
Scum: falcon

Sorry, I didn't read that rule anywhere. Interesting you single me out, when others did the same.


It wouldn't be because I'm sussing you, right?


No, thats never why

[falcon45ca]

Mac: HK is outted and scum with 112.
Falcon: What makes you say that?
Mac:


So drink on this. Do wolves kill Mac if he’s accusing townies or wolves there?

Why are the wolves allowing a confirmed townie to live?

[Jackofhearts2005]

The mafia prioritized yeeting Wilgy over JPIC. They were both good yeet candidates, but at least Wilgy was innocent. If JPIC had been lynched and flipped civ instead we would be justified in speculating about Wilgy. It’s no guarantee of anything but the result does not make jpic look better. I want to hear people’s interpretations of this.

I think if I'm a wolf and JPIC and Wilgy are both town, I yeet JPIC. I just think he's the better player. That's not a lock. I scumread JPIC anyhow though.

This is all WIFOM though.

Nobody is asking the important question of whether the wolves controlled last phase and from my perspective, yes, they did. We've had three mischops in a row and I'm still being suspected - that sounds pretty great for the wolves, I'm the designated misyeet for D4.

Don't be surprised when I flip town and our town core have led us to another mischop. Why is nobody suspecting the people who crossvoted with each other?

Because it’s such level one play to cross vote.

None of this feels townie. Like that’s your best lead? Cross voting?

And yet that’s likely what happened. If wolves cross vote then who cares who gets yeeted as long as it’s not one of them.

What if everybody gets at least one vote. Well there you go, another town yeet.

I ask you this: did wolves control the votes or not?

Likely based on what?

If everybody gets one vote, whoever placed the last vote is wolf claiming because that action allows wolves to yeet the player of their choice. What does that have to do with crossvoting?

Wolves controlled their own votes. Consensus two players to receive 0 votes were you and Wilgy, and that’s what we got. So no, wolves didn’t control the votes yesterday, just the yeet between you and Wilgy. They chose Wilgy.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Mac: HK is outted and scum with 112.
Falcon: What makes you say that?
Mac:


So drink on this. Do wolves kill Mac if he’s accusing townies or wolves there?

Why are the wolves allowing a confirmed townie to live?

Because he’s roughly confirmed as vanilla and there are other consensus townreads that presumably have abilities.

Plus doc dodge.

Plus maybe reads are being taken into account.

So I ask again. Is Mac shot because he’s right and wolves don’t want him to say why? Or is Mac shot because he’s wrong and wolves want us to sheep him?

[Jackofhearts2005]

The mafia prioritized yeeting Wilgy over JPIC. They were both good yeet candidates, but at least Wilgy was innocent. If JPIC had been lynched and flipped civ instead we would be justified in speculating about Wilgy. It’s no guarantee of anything but the result does not make jpic look better. I want to hear people’s interpretations of this.

I think if I'm a wolf and JPIC and Wilgy are both town, I yeet JPIC. I just think he's the better player. That's not a lock. I scumread JPIC anyhow though.

This is all WIFOM though.

Nobody is asking the important question of whether the wolves controlled last phase and from my perspective, yes, they did. We've had three mischops in a row and I'm still being suspected - that sounds pretty great for the wolves, I'm the designated misyeet for D4.

Don't be surprised when I flip town and our town core have led us to another mischop. Why is nobody suspecting the people who crossvoted with each other?

Because it’s such level one play to cross vote.

None of this feels townie. Like that’s your best lead? Cross voting?

And yet that’s likely what happened. If wolves cross vote then who cares who gets yeeted as long as it’s not one of them.

What if everybody gets at least one vote. Well there you go, another town yeet.

I ask you this: did wolves control the votes or not?

Likely based on what?

If everybody gets one vote, whoever placed the last vote is wolf claiming because that action allows wolves to yeet the player of their choice. What does that have to do with crossvoting?

Wolves controlled their own votes. Consensus two players to receive 0 votes were you and Wilgy, and that’s what we got. So no, wolves didn’t control the votes yesterday, just the yeet between you and Wilgy. They chose Wilgy.

Like we were in a world where the only way we ever yeet a wolf is if we correctly pick out two wolves on D3 after yeeting townies on D1 and D2 and where Dr Wilgy is town.

So basically, a world where a wolf yeet is just fucking impossible to begin with.

And his belief is that in this world where a wolf yeet is never going to happen, wolves cross vote and tie themselves together to avoid yeet at all costs.

Absolute nonsense.

[VOTE: Justplayingitcool] aubergine

[Sloonei]

LC is claiming my role. I think he might be the reason Jack didn’t get my gift.

Mafia have customized fake claims.

They do have fake claims, what exactly do you mean by "customized"?

Spoiler: show

Closed Setup Role Madness. 100 posts per day (cap lifted 1 hour before EoD), 48/24, 6 pm SoD/EoD, Night Closed. Mafia provided customly tailored fakeclaims. Starts as soon as filled.

If you’re gonna try to accuse me of a slip of some sort, make sure I’m not just reciting the very first words posted in the thread.

[Sloonei]

I’ve only just got here and only read what is immediately accessible to me. JPIC seems to be mafia. 112 seems to be mafia. I have no understanding of the mechanics involved in the read on LC, but he can be mafia. The fourth could be in Enrique/hollowkatt, or someplace else. Idk. Omly about 5% of this game.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Sloonei can be town. He’s not core but he feels town enough.

[falcon45ca]

Mac: HK is outted and scum with 112.
Falcon: What makes you say that?
Mac:


So drink on this. Do wolves kill Mac if he’s accusing townies or wolves there?

Why are the wolves allowing a confirmed townie to live?

Because he’s roughly confirmed as vanilla and there are other consensus townreads that presumably have abilities.

Plus doc dodge.

Plus maybe reads are being taken into account.

So I ask again. Is Mac shot because he’s right and wolves don’t want him to say why? Or is Mac shot because he’s wrong and wolves want us to sheep him?

I don't know, I'm not a wolf

[Long Con]

LC is claiming my role. I think he might be the reason Jack didn’t get my gift.

Mafia have customized fake claims.

They do have fake claims, what exactly do you mean by "customized"?

Spoiler: show

Closed Setup Role Madness. 100 posts per day (cap lifted 1 hour before EoD), 48/24, 6 pm SoD/EoD, Night Closed. Mafia provided customly tailored fakeclaims. Starts as soon as filled.

If you’re gonna try to accuse me of a slip of some sort, make sure I’m not just reciting the very first words posted in the thread.

No, not a slip. That would have been . Probably some residual wtf seeped in from Enrique's accusation. I still wants to know the difference between a customized fake claim and a regular one, but I see that you don't have the answers.

[Long Con]

You all can continue as you will but I'm asking this:

Name your top suspect.
Name your top civilian.

Epi civvy, LC sus

This is the worst. Pretty sure you can't pick a confirmed town as your top civilian, the exercise is supposed to get your opinions. And jumping on Enrique's weird fantasy is doubly shady.

Town: TSP
Scum: falcon

Sorry, I didn't read that rule anywhere. Interesting you single me out, when others did the same.


It wouldn't be because I'm sussing you, right?


No, thats never why

Probably.

[Long Con]

Still Shady that you jumped on the case against me so easily when it's based on saying my proven ability is not my ability.

[Sloonei]

LC is claiming my role. I think he might be the reason Jack didn’t get my gift.

Mafia have customized fake claims.

They do have fake claims, what exactly do you mean by "customized"?

Spoiler: show

Closed Setup Role Madness. 100 posts per day (cap lifted 1 hour before EoD), 48/24, 6 pm SoD/EoD, Night Closed. Mafia provided customly tailored fakeclaims. Starts as soon as filled.

If you’re gonna try to accuse me of a slip of some sort, make sure I’m not just reciting the very first words posted in the thread.

No, not a slip. That would have been . Probably some residual wtf seeped in from Enrique's accusation. I still wants to know the difference between a customized fake claim and a regular one, but I see that you don't have the answers.

I would assume it means each member of the team has their own unique fake claim based on their role/abilities.

[Sloonei]

I’ve only just got here and only read what is immediately accessible to me. JPIC seems to be mafia. 112 seems to be mafia. I have no understanding of the mechanics involved in the read on LC, but he can be mafia. The fourth could be in Enrique/hollowkatt, or someplace else. Idk. Omly about 5% of this game.

I have not seen a reason to townread falcon either

[Sloonei]

I would need to eliminate one person from the POE pool of 112/JPIC/LC/hk/Enrique/falcon. We only have one mischop (assuming standard progression) so the POE needs to be no more than 5.

[Justplayingitcool]

The mafia prioritized yeeting Wilgy over JPIC. They were both good yeet candidates, but at least Wilgy was innocent. If JPIC had been lynched and flipped civ instead we would be justified in speculating about Wilgy. It’s no guarantee of anything but the result does not make jpic look better. I want to hear people’s interpretations of this.

I think if I'm a wolf and JPIC and Wilgy are both town, I yeet JPIC. I just think he's the better player. That's not a lock. I scumread JPIC anyhow though.

This is all WIFOM though.

Nobody is asking the important question of whether the wolves controlled last phase and from my perspective, yes, they did. We've had three mischops in a row and I'm still being suspected - that sounds pretty great for the wolves, I'm the designated misyeet for D4.

Don't be surprised when I flip town and our town core have led us to another mischop. Why is nobody suspecting the people who crossvoted with each other?

Because it’s such level one play to cross vote.

None of this feels townie. Like that’s your best lead? Cross voting?

And yet that’s likely what happened. If wolves cross vote then who cares who gets yeeted as long as it’s not one of them.

What if everybody gets at least one vote. Well there you go, another town yeet.

I ask you this: did wolves control the votes or not?

Likely based on what?

If everybody gets one vote, whoever placed the last vote is wolf claiming because that action allows wolves to yeet the player of their choice. What does that have to do with crossvoting?

Wolves controlled their own votes. Consensus two players to receive 0 votes were you and Wilgy, and that’s what we got. So no, wolves didn’t control the votes yesterday, just the yeet between you and Wilgy. They chose Wilgy.

Like we were in a world where the only way we ever yeet a wolf is if we correctly pick out two wolves on D3 after yeeting townies on D1 and D2 and where Dr Wilgy is town.

So basically, a world where a wolf yeet is just fucking impossible to begin with.

And his belief is that in this world where a wolf yeet is never going to happen, wolves cross vote and tie themselves together to avoid yeet at all costs.

Absolute nonsense.

[VOTE: Justplayingitcool] aubergine

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How? If the wolves crossvote it's literally fucking impossible for us to have enough protection to ensure that a wolf is on the chopping board.

[Justplayingitcool]

Mac: HK is outted and scum with 112.
Falcon: What makes you say that?
Mac:


So drink on this. Do wolves kill Mac if he’s accusing townies or wolves there?

Why are the wolves allowing a confirmed townie to live?

Because he’s roughly confirmed as vanilla and there are other consensus townreads that presumably have abilities.

Plus doc dodge.

Plus maybe reads are being taken into account.

So I ask again. Is Mac shot because he’s right and wolves don’t want him to say why? Or is Mac shot because he’s wrong and wolves want us to sheep him?

our doc is dead

[Sloonei]

I would need to eliminate one person from the POE pool of 112/JPIC/LC/hk/Enrique/falcon. We only have one mischop (assuming standard progression) so the POE needs to be no more than 5.

@Justplayingitcool @112 @Long Con @hollowkatt @Enrique @falcon45ca

Besides yourself, which one of these people is town?
Is there anyone not on this list that you think should be?

[Justplayingitcool]

I would need to eliminate one person from the POE pool of 112/JPIC/LC/hk/Enrique/falcon. We only have one mischop (assuming standard progression) so the POE needs to be no more than 5.

@Justplayingitcool @112 @Long Con @hollowkatt @Enrique @falcon45ca

Besides yourself, which one of these people is town?
Is there anyone not on this list that you think should be?

hollowkatt. I also think falcon is town, maybe

[falcon45ca]

I would need to eliminate one person from the POE pool of 112/JPIC/LC/hk/Enrique/falcon. We only have one mischop (assuming standard progression) so the POE needs to be no more than 5.

@Justplayingitcool @112 @Long Con @hollowkatt @Enrique @falcon45ca

Besides yourself, which one of these people is town?
Is there anyone not on this list that you think should be?

Enrique is town

[Sloonei]

I would need to eliminate one person from the POE pool of 112/JPIC/LC/hk/Enrique/falcon. We only have one mischop (assuming standard progression) so the POE needs to be no more than 5.

@Justplayingitcool @112 @Long Con @hollowkatt @Enrique @falcon45ca

Besides yourself, which one of these people is town?
Is there anyone not on this list that you think should be?

hollowkatt. I also think falcon is town, maybe

Why? Why?

If all three of you are town then there is one more wolf escaping my gaze. Who is it?

[Sloonei]

I would need to eliminate one person from the POE pool of 112/JPIC/LC/hk/Enrique/falcon. We only have one mischop (assuming standard progression) so the POE needs to be no more than 5.

@Justplayingitcool @112 @Long Con @hollowkatt @Enrique @falcon45ca

Besides yourself, which one of these people is town?
Is there anyone not on this list that you think should be?

Enrique is town

Why?

[Justplayingitcool]

I would need to eliminate one person from the POE pool of 112/JPIC/LC/hk/Enrique/falcon. We only have one mischop (assuming standard progression) so the POE needs to be no more than 5.

@Justplayingitcool @112 @Long Con @hollowkatt @Enrique @falcon45ca

Besides yourself, which one of these people is town?
Is there anyone not on this list that you think should be?

hollowkatt. I also think falcon is town, maybe

Why? Why?

If all three of you are town then there is one more wolf escaping my gaze. Who is it?

hollowkatt's push on ted felt towny. falcon I had been agreeing on most of the game, but I had lost confidence in the read because I had been wrong all game. Two of my biggest suspects were consecutively killed during the night (kyle/marmot).

We have mischopped town three days in a row. The sanctity of the towncore has probably meant someone escaped from the PoE and has defiled it. I think Urist should be in the PoE

[falcon45ca]

I would need to eliminate one person from the POE pool of 112/JPIC/LC/hk/Enrique/falcon. We only have one mischop (assuming standard progression) so the POE needs to be no more than 5.

@Justplayingitcool @112 @Long Con @hollowkatt @Enrique @falcon45ca

Besides yourself, which one of these people is town?
Is there anyone not on this list that you think should be?

Enrique is town

Why?

general vibe of game solving to his posts. He came alive after being absent for the start of the game, but he's put an effort into the game that I just don't see a wolf doing. If he's a wolf, I think he'd have just kept up his absence.

[falcon45ca]

I would need to eliminate one person from the POE pool of 112/JPIC/LC/hk/Enrique/falcon. We only have one mischop (assuming standard progression) so the POE needs to be no more than 5.

@Justplayingitcool @112 @Long Con @hollowkatt @Enrique @falcon45ca

Besides yourself, which one of these people is town?
Is there anyone not on this list that you think should be?

hollowkatt. I also think falcon is town, maybe

Why? Why?

If all three of you are town then there is one more wolf escaping my gaze. Who is it?

hollowkatt's push on ted felt towny. falcon I had been agreeing on most of the game, but I had lost confidence in the read because I had been wrong all game. Two of my biggest suspects were consecutively killed during the night (kyle/marmot).

We have mischopped town three days in a row. The sanctity of the towncore has probably meant someone escaped from the PoE and has defiled it. I think Urist should be in the PoE

I feel this way about my reads as well.

[hollowkatt]

I would need to eliminate one person from the POE pool of 112/JPIC/LC/hk/Enrique/falcon. We only have one mischop (assuming standard progression) so the POE needs to be no more than 5.

@Justplayingitcool @112 @Long Con @hollowkatt @Enrique @falcon45ca

Besides yourself, which one of these people is town?
Is there anyone not on this list that you think should be?

I think Enrique is town

[Jackofhearts2005]

I think if I'm a wolf and JPIC and Wilgy are both town, I yeet JPIC. I just think he's the better player. That's not a lock. I scumread JPIC anyhow though.

This is all WIFOM though.

Nobody is asking the important question of whether the wolves controlled last phase and from my perspective, yes, they did. We've had three mischops in a row and I'm still being suspected - that sounds pretty great for the wolves, I'm the designated misyeet for D4.

Don't be surprised when I flip town and our town core have led us to another mischop. Why is nobody suspecting the people who crossvoted with each other?

Because it’s such level one play to cross vote.

None of this feels townie. Like that’s your best lead? Cross voting?

And yet that’s likely what happened. If wolves cross vote then who cares who gets yeeted as long as it’s not one of them.

What if everybody gets at least one vote. Well there you go, another town yeet.

I ask you this: did wolves control the votes or not?

Likely based on what?

If everybody gets one vote, whoever placed the last vote is wolf claiming because that action allows wolves to yeet the player of their choice. What does that have to do with crossvoting?

Wolves controlled their own votes. Consensus two players to receive 0 votes were you and Wilgy, and that’s what we got. So no, wolves didn’t control the votes yesterday, just the yeet between you and Wilgy. They chose Wilgy.

Like we were in a world where the only way we ever yeet a wolf is if we correctly pick out two wolves on D3 after yeeting townies on D1 and D2 and where Dr Wilgy is town.

So basically, a world where a wolf yeet is just fucking impossible to begin with.

And his belief is that in this world where a wolf yeet is never going to happen, wolves cross vote and tie themselves together to avoid yeet at all costs.

Absolute nonsense.

[VOTE: Justplayingitcool] aubergine

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How? If the wolves crossvote it's literally fucking impossible for us to have enough protection to ensure that a wolf is on the chopping board.

A wolf wasn’t on the chopping board anyway unless somebody decided to vote Wilgy.

[Jackofhearts2005]

In a world where exactly one player in @Sloonei ’s poe is town, its Enrique.

[Jackofhearts2005]

This is all WIFOM though.

Nobody is asking the important question of whether the wolves controlled last phase and from my perspective, yes, they did. We've had three mischops in a row and I'm still being suspected - that sounds pretty great for the wolves, I'm the designated misyeet for D4.

Don't be surprised when I flip town and our town core have led us to another mischop. Why is nobody suspecting the people who crossvoted with each other?

Because it’s such level one play to cross vote.

None of this feels townie. Like that’s your best lead? Cross voting?

And yet that’s likely what happened. If wolves cross vote then who cares who gets yeeted as long as it’s not one of them.

What if everybody gets at least one vote. Well there you go, another town yeet.

I ask you this: did wolves control the votes or not?

Likely based on what?

If everybody gets one vote, whoever placed the last vote is wolf claiming because that action allows wolves to yeet the player of their choice. What does that have to do with crossvoting?

Wolves controlled their own votes. Consensus two players to receive 0 votes were you and Wilgy, and that’s what we got. So no, wolves didn’t control the votes yesterday, just the yeet between you and Wilgy. They chose Wilgy.

Like we were in a world where the only way we ever yeet a wolf is if we correctly pick out two wolves on D3 after yeeting townies on D1 and D2 and where Dr Wilgy is town.

So basically, a world where a wolf yeet is just fucking impossible to begin with.

And his belief is that in this world where a wolf yeet is never going to happen, wolves cross vote and tie themselves together to avoid yeet at all costs.

Absolute nonsense.

[VOTE: Justplayingitcool] aubergine

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How? If the wolves crossvote it's literally fucking impossible for us to have enough protection to ensure that a wolf is on the chopping board.

A wolf wasn’t on the chopping board anyway unless somebody decided to vote Wilgy.

Wilgy had 3 posts yesterday and 25 posts total. He was always going to be one of the two tied players.

[Sloonei]

In a world where exactly one player in @Sloonei ’s poe is town, its Enrique.

I listed 6 players and we know there are only 4 mafia. So at least 2 of them should be town.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I said what I said.

[hollowkatt]

In a world where exactly one player in @Sloonei ’s poe is town, its Enrique.

I listed 6 players and we know there are only 4 mafia. So at least 2 of them should be town.

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