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Who is the wolf in bee’s clothing?

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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Esooa wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:44 pm quin doesn't have a single post discernibly scum reading someone from day 2, except maybe Kyle

sounds like my scum reads haven't changed since day 1 to me.
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Esooa wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 1:13 am
Quin wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 1:12 am
Alison wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:58 pm
Esooa wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:55 pm
Alison wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:54 pm I don't feel like playing right now so I'll keep it brief.

Ratrug is townie on tone and is clearing way too many people to stand a chance if he is mafia. I am moving that slot to upper POE.

Seanzie's latest posts have been scummy and his reads list is a salad.

Quin feels like they're frustrated that they're caught for the wrong reasons re: the birthday thing which they claim is NAI.
why don't you want to play?
Because I'm tired despite waking up 6 hours ago and the only thing I want to do right now is wait for my pizza to arrive and eat pizza while watching youtube videos.
nah, sounds like you aren't enjoying being mafia and it's making you not want to play.

see? i can spew bullshit too. :suspish:
can some of this spewing be a scum read
no.
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Quin wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 1:15 am
Esooa wrote: Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:44 pm quin doesn't have a single post discernibly scum reading someone from day 2, except maybe Kyle

sounds like my scum reads haven't changed since day 1 to me.
and whos that
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I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night. :doh:
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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You can try accusing me of being unmotivated because I'm playing scum if you like, everyone here knows I enjoy playing scum more than any other alignment.
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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have you read my posts?
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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And naked hostility without actual reasons why you're town is just going to make me think you have no cards in hand so you default to being aggro and hoping I back off.
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Quin wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 1:17 am have you read my posts?
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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I'm not gonna drag this out of you. You can die lol
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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vote: ratrug
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Alison wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 1:17 am You can try accusing me of being unmotivated because I'm playing scum if you like, everyone here knows I enjoy playing scum more than any other alignment.
everyone knows i'm a nice person who does nice things that are NAI.

whos everyone? i dunno. its true though.




what do you think about the people who are voting for me?
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Esooa wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 1:20 am I'm not gonna drag this out of you. You can die lol
you can put in the bare minimum of effort when it comes to lynching me or i can just ignore you. lynch be damned. i give a shit. do the same.
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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quick is anyone here a doctor
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Alison wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 1:17 am And naked hostility without actual reasons why you're town is just going to make me think you have no cards in hand so you default to being aggro and hoping I back off.
you keep perpetuating this idea that i'm just yelling at anyone who suspects me. that is not true.
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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ts account wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 1:25 am quick is anyone here a doctor
if only drwilgy was here.
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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let's go about it this way.

town has the responsibility to make the most informed lynch even if the person they're accusing is being uncooperative. seanzie did that with alison. that's why he's town.

you are being complacent and that is bad. all i asked of you was to read the posts of the person you are voting for.

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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Quin wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 1:32 am let's go about it this way.

town has the responsibility to make the most informed lynch even if the person they're accusing is being uncooperative. seanzie did that with alison. that's why he's town.

you are being complacent and that is bad. all i asked of you was to read the posts of the person you are voting for.

[VOTE: esooa] aubergine
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I’ll come clean team. I have failed you.
I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night. :doh:
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Esooa wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 2:00 am
Quin wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 1:32 am let's go about it this way.

town has the responsibility to make the most informed lynch even if the person they're accusing is being uncooperative. seanzie did that with alison. that's why he's town.

you are being complacent and that is bad. all i asked of you was to read the posts of the person you are voting for.

[VOTE: esooa] aubergine
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Well well well, what a fine piece of distancing theatre.

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I am a doctor. I'm here to assess your condition, son, what can you tell me? Symptoms?
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Long Con wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 2:47 am Well well well, what a fine piece of distancing theatre.

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I am a doctor. I'm here to assess your condition, son, what can you tell me? Symptoms?
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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I object I've been asleep for most of this game
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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[VOTE: Esooa] aubergine

I vibe with what Quin's been saying, and over the past (IRL) night I've become even more sure that he's town. I mean, just look at his signature lol. It kinda does feel like the way Quin is playing right now is a genuine playstyle and he's being genuine right now.

Besides, its been bothering me a bit Esooa spent (relatively speaking) quite some time pushing Falcon45ca but not really anybody today.

I'm slightly confident that Ratrug/Quin/Seanzie may have all 3 town, and GTH if there's two town in there then it's probably Ratrug who's mafia.
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If that doesn't make a mockery of my confidence in my solving then I don't know what will.
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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I don't evaluate often on whether someone was cw to a scum wagon or not because its not too uncommon in my experience to see w/w wagons, so I tend to evaluate on an independent level.

Besides, she said "you can die lol" and while I would really hope that to be a scum tell (it probably isn't given how obvious it is) she did say that right in front of my face in the last time I was town in a game with scum her.
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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What's the buzz around town fellow beenizens?
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I'm upset... Can't watch Leicester vs United. Brutal
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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@Alison, what do you think of Nook right now?
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Responding to a question received in private: ties in the poll will be resolved via a coin flip/randomization.
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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I'm not interested in lynching ratrug. I would like to see Quin/nanook competing wagons. Seanzie is an okay alternative if you want want to but I think he's town
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I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night. :doh:
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Esooa wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 2:59 pm I'm not interested in lynching ratrug. I would like to see Quin/nanook competing wagons. Seanzie is an okay alternative if you want want to but I think he's town
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Esooa wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 2:59 pm I'm not interested in lynching ratrug. I would like to see Quin/nanook competing wagons. Seanzie is an okay alternative if you want want to but I think he's town
What are your thoughts on Ratrug?
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Seanzie wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:02 pm
Esooa wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 2:59 pm I'm not interested in lynching ratrug. I would like to see Quin/nanook competing wagons. Seanzie is an okay alternative if you want want to but I think he's town
What are your thoughts on Ratrug?
I don't think a wolf does literally nothing to make himself look good or care at all day 1, then coming into a day 2 starts caring

that's just weird lol
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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if you want to know my real opinions then it's that Alison is a wolf

I wanted competing wagons between nanook/quin to see where Alison lands, but I don't particularly care right now to push that to get it done so I'm just telling you
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I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night. :doh:
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Esooa wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:04 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:02 pm
Esooa wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 2:59 pm I'm not interested in lynching ratrug. I would like to see Quin/nanook competing wagons. Seanzie is an okay alternative if you want want to but I think he's town
What are your thoughts on Ratrug?
I don't think a wolf does literally nothing to make himself look good or care at all day 1, then coming into a day 2 starts caring

that's just weird lol
Could this be explained by Ratrug being relatively new (I think I heard this is the case, can anyone confirm?)? From what I've seen (admittedly I have limited experience), new wolves have a really hard time D1, but tend to fall into more of a groove after that.
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Esooa wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:06 pm if you want to know my real opinions then it's that Alison is a wolf

I wanted competing wagons between nanook/quin to see where Alison lands, but I don't particularly care right now to push that to get it done so I'm just telling you
This makes me feel better about you. I can't shake the feeling that Alison is a wolf, and while I gave her some towny points for her analysis of Falcon's ISO at the beginning of today, doubt has been creeping back ever since. I can't imagine Alison clearing a few people off Falcon's flip is out of her scumrange (I've never seen her as scum, but I can imagine based off reputation and her town play), and when Martin mentioned the off chance that the 3 wagons (me, Quin, Ratrug) might all be town, I thought about what the game would look like if that was true, and I think Alison would almost assuredly be a wolf there. Couple that with Alison's bad reads D1, and her continued bad read on me, I have a hard time thinking town!Alison is playing this poorly.
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Getting to the end of day, not much conversation, and we have a three way tie :puppy: :puppy:
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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ts account wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:00 pm
Esooa wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 2:59 pm I'm not interested in lynching ratrug. I would like to see Quin/nanook competing wagons. Seanzie is an okay alternative if you want want to but I think he's town
why do you want 3 town wagons
How do you know that they're town?
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Seanzie wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:18 pm
Esooa wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:04 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:02 pm
Esooa wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 2:59 pm I'm not interested in lynching ratrug. I would like to see Quin/nanook competing wagons. Seanzie is an okay alternative if you want want to but I think he's town
What are your thoughts on Ratrug?
I don't think a wolf does literally nothing to make himself look good or care at all day 1, then coming into a day 2 starts caring

that's just weird lol
Could this be explained by Ratrug being relatively new (I think I heard this is the case, can anyone confirm?)? From what I've seen (admittedly I have limited experience), new wolves have a really hard time D1, but tend to fall into more of a groove after that.
That pattern tends to be true for new players regardless of alignment
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Today is not the day to tinfoil Alison imo
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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There's probably exactly two or exactly zero mafia at 2-3 votes rn
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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:09 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:18 pm
Esooa wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:04 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:02 pm
Esooa wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 2:59 pm I'm not interested in lynching ratrug. I would like to see Quin/nanook competing wagons. Seanzie is an okay alternative if you want want to but I think he's town
What are your thoughts on Ratrug?
I don't think a wolf does literally nothing to make himself look good or care at all day 1, then coming into a day 2 starts caring

that's just weird lol
Could this be explained by Ratrug being relatively new (I think I heard this is the case, can anyone confirm?)? From what I've seen (admittedly I have limited experience), new wolves have a really hard time D1, but tend to fall into more of a groove after that.
That pattern tends to be true for new players regardless of alignment
I agree with this story.

Funny story, the first game I played of mafia, I didn’t realise I was mafia until Day 2 when my teammate was lynched. Lol
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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are we gonna lynch the obvious scum or nah
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I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night. :doh:
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@Seanzie vote quin
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I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night. :doh:
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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or we can cfd nanook
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I never expected to survive the night. I was very confused about the char flip and I was on my way to a very hot date. We stayed overnight to celebrate my girl bday and vday weekend. Last thing in my mind was the game... I never submitted an action last night. :doh:
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Esooa wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:30 pm @Seanzie vote quin
I don't think quin is obviously scum, but it kind of looks like I may have to self-press there.

Why isn't Ratrug voting... again?
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Esooa wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:30 pm are we gonna lynch the obvious scum or nah
Esooa wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:30 pm @Seanzie vote quin
Quin the obvious mafia?
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Esooa wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:30 pm @Seanzie vote quin
Do you think scum!Alison is bussing scum!Quin right now after losing Falcon D1, knowing that we get a vig tomorrow?
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Seanzie wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:25 pm
Esooa wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:06 pm if you want to know my real opinions then it's that Alison is a wolf


I wanted competing wagons between nanook/quin to see where Alison lands, but I don't particularly care right now to push that to get it done so I'm just telling you
This makes me feel better about you. I can't shake the feeling that Alison is a wolf, and while I gave her some towny points for her analysis of Falcon's ISO at the beginning of today, doubt has been creeping back ever since. I can't imagine Alison clearing a few people off Falcon's flip is out of her scumrange (I've never seen her as scum, but I can imagine based off reputation and her town play), and when Martin mentioned the off chance that the 3 wagons (me, Quin, Ratrug) might all be town, I thought about what the game would look like if that was true, and I think Alison would almost assuredly be a wolf there. Couple that with Alison's bad reads D1, and her continued bad read on me, I have a hard time thinking town!Alison is playing this poorly.
Poorly how? Or is it strictly with independent reads you think are bad?

I don't think they've been playing poorly from either alignment's perspective, though not very great. Which is part of the trouble for me. I can't see any strong agenda signs from them unless they're planning to deep-wolf, but even then that thought kinda doesn't hold any water since they partially just let the falcon wagon happen without really pushing or defending it.

I still have Alison on the list of possible wolves, but I don't think my suspicions are strong enough to vote them yet. Especially if they continue to solve as that could likely put them and their teammate into a tough box.
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If that doesn't make a mockery of my confidence in my solving then I don't know what will.
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Seanzie wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:33 pm
Esooa wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:30 pm @Seanzie vote quin
Do you think scum!Alison is bussing scum!Quin right now after losing Falcon D1, knowing that we get a vig tomorrow?
it's interesting you bring this up because it's the only world I'm considering if quin is mafia
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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fingersplints wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 4:47 pm Getting to the end of day, not much conversation, and we have a three way tie :puppy: :puppy:
I'm planning on having that tie include Quin in it.

At the moment out of all the three in that wagon I think my TR on Quin is the strongest, though not by much.
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MartinGG99 wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 12:40 am The only notable "solving" I've done publicly has managed to kill someone who had the same power role and alignment as me.

If that doesn't make a mockery of my confidence in my solving then I don't know what will.
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