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Who is the wolf in bee’s clothing?

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Alison
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Bee Jeez(Host/non)
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Not planning*

God that's a terrible typo.
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If that doesn't make a mockery of my confidence in my solving then I don't know what will.
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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[VOTE: Ratrug] aubergine

The one that I least TR out of all of them.
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MartinGG99 wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 12:40 am The only notable "solving" I've done publicly has managed to kill someone who had the same power role and alignment as me.

If that doesn't make a mockery of my confidence in my solving then I don't know what will.
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Ok so

Comfortable clearing mikey

Still think ratrug is town

Alison is fine and martin is only mafia if its exactly with Alison so he's fine too

Still think fingers is town

Lc probably town

Esooa >rand town

And yet this game still feels like a slog
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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I don't really believe quin is mafia but I'm TRing his whole wagon so
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:23 pm There's probably exactly two or exactly zero mafia at 2-3 votes rn
Why would you think that there's two mafia in there?
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MartinGG99 wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 12:40 am The only notable "solving" I've done publicly has managed to kill someone who had the same power role and alignment as me.

If that doesn't make a mockery of my confidence in my solving then I don't know what will.
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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MartinGG99 wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:48 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:23 pm There's probably exactly two or exactly zero mafia at 2-3 votes rn
Why would you think that there's two mafia in there?
Its a throwaway half joke
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Makes sense.

I think its impossible for 2 mafia to be in there and there's at most 1.

There would be more thread activity if that were the case, given that would mean a potential town sweep.
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MartinGG99 wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 12:40 am The only notable "solving" I've done publicly has managed to kill someone who had the same power role and alignment as me.

If that doesn't make a mockery of my confidence in my solving then I don't know what will.
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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It's the kind of thing a Serious Mafia Player says when there's so many static wagons
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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MartinGG99 wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:50 pm Makes sense.

I think its impossible for 2 mafia to be in there and there's at most 1.

There would be more thread activity if that were the case, given that would mean a potential town sweep.
I don't think that's true but I also don't really care
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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MartinGG99 wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:41 pm
Seanzie wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:25 pm
Esooa wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 3:06 pm if you want to know my real opinions then it's that Alison is a wolf


I wanted competing wagons between nanook/quin to see where Alison lands, but I don't particularly care right now to push that to get it done so I'm just telling you
This makes me feel better about you. I can't shake the feeling that Alison is a wolf, and while I gave her some towny points for her analysis of Falcon's ISO at the beginning of today, doubt has been creeping back ever since. I can't imagine Alison clearing a few people off Falcon's flip is out of her scumrange (I've never seen her as scum, but I can imagine based off reputation and her town play), and when Martin mentioned the off chance that the 3 wagons (me, Quin, Ratrug) might all be town, I thought about what the game would look like if that was true, and I think Alison would almost assuredly be a wolf there. Couple that with Alison's bad reads D1, and her continued bad read on me, I have a hard time thinking town!Alison is playing this poorly.
Poorly how? Or is it strictly with independent reads you think are bad?

I don't think they've been playing poorly from either alignment's perspective, though not very great. Which is part of the trouble for me. I can't see any strong agenda signs from them unless they're planning to deep-wolf, but even then that thought kinda doesn't hold any water since they partially just let the falcon wagon happen without really pushing or defending it.

I still have Alison on the list of possible wolves, but I don't think my suspicions are strong enough to vote them yet. Especially if they continue to solve as that could likely put them and their teammate into a tough box.
I mean, I already kind of explained this yesterday, but like yesterday for a lot of the day she was trying to paint a me/BK/ratrug team into existence, and all if it hinged on me being scum, which I know is false. Today, she is still calling me scummy, and had a PoE of me/Nook/Quin/Ratrug, but soft-removed Ratrug from the PoE, and hasn't spoken at all about Nook, but has also said me and Quin are anti-teamed, so it seems like she is chasing a PoE of me/Quin, that she simultaneously believes isn't correct (and I know is at most half correct).

I don't necessarily mean her process is poor, but last game I played with her, she bragged about having something like an 80% accuracy rate for her reads, and then followed through with all-but-one of her D1 reads being spot on, but this game, I don't really see that happening. The worlds she is building might have some coincidental hits, but they aren't hits because the world is correct-ish, instead they are just lucky hits (like if Ratrug flip scum, sure one of her reads yesterday would be "correct", but since this was prefaced on me being scum, the reasoning for the read doesn't check out)
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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I'm tunneling martin if rutrug flips town
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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There is some reason to think ratrug has equity with the chess kill but

Idk its pretty uninspiring

I'd rather kill Kyle or even bo
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Esooa wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:52 pm I'm tunneling martin if rutrug flips town
Martin is only ever mafia with Alison imo
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Esooa wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:52 pm I'm tunneling martin if rutrug flips town
but only if one of quin/seanzie are mafia
otherwise it doesn't mean anything
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Eh I guess bo shouldn't be flipped before quin or seanzie
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:53 pm
Esooa wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:52 pm I'm tunneling martin if rutrug flips town
Martin is only ever mafia with Alison imo
can you expand on this
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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I'm okay with either quin/ratrug dying realistically and if one flips town I think it makes sense for the other to be shot
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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ts account wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:54 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:53 pm
Esooa wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:52 pm I'm tunneling martin if rutrug flips town
Martin is only ever mafia with Alison imo
can you expand on this
Alison has a godread on martin and says hes town
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Ratrug is >rand town by d1 votecount
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Esooa wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:52 pm I'm tunneling martin if rutrug flips town
Not sure how you're going to reconcile an alleged Martin mafia alignment with the fact that I was more concerned about TS account being w/w on Falcon before I became the 2nd or 3rd vote on him

but sure
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MartinGG99 wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 12:40 am The only notable "solving" I've done publicly has managed to kill someone who had the same power role and alignment as me.

If that doesn't make a mockery of my confidence in my solving then I don't know what will.
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Wait that's wrong
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Idk I'm still not convinced but

Yeah ratrug is fine
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:55 pm
ts account wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:54 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:53 pm
Esooa wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:52 pm I'm tunneling martin if rutrug flips town
Martin is only ever mafia with Alison imo
can you expand on this
Alison has a godread on martin and says hes town
Alison generally has god-reads on me but she didn't proclaim it at any point this game, only that she read me as town.
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MartinGG99 wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 12:40 am The only notable "solving" I've done publicly has managed to kill someone who had the same power role and alignment as me.

If that doesn't make a mockery of my confidence in my solving then I don't know what will.
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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MartinGG99 wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:58 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:55 pm
ts account wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:54 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:53 pm
Esooa wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:52 pm I'm tunneling martin if rutrug flips town
Martin is only ever mafia with Alison imo
can you expand on this
Alison has a godread on martin and says hes town
Alison generally has god-reads on me but she didn't proclaim it at any point this game, only that she read me as town.
If she gives a read on you I'm treating it as a god read unless she explicitly says it isn't
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Theres ostensibly a pretty narrow poe but I still don't feel super confident

Idk I really hope this hits I don't want a hard game
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:58 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:58 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:55 pm
ts account wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:54 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:53 pm
Esooa wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:52 pm I'm tunneling martin if rutrug flips town
Martin is only ever mafia with Alison imo
can you expand on this
Alison has a godread on martin and says hes town
Alison generally has god-reads on me but she didn't proclaim it at any point this game, only that she read me as town.
If she gives a read on you I'm treating it as a god read unless she explicitly says it isn't
What is a god read?
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Seanzie wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:59 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:58 pm
MartinGG99 wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:58 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:55 pm
ts account wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:54 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:53 pm
Esooa wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 5:52 pm I'm tunneling martin if rutrug flips town
Martin is only ever mafia with Alison imo
can you expand on this
Alison has a godread on martin and says hes town
Alison generally has god-reads on me but she didn't proclaim it at any point this game, only that she read me as town.
If she gives a read on you I'm treating it as a god read unless she explicitly says it isn't
What is a god read?
What it sounds like
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Super high accuracy read
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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Inb4 Alison is snowing us again
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If j get NKed remember my legacy
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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The Bees were on edge. Who could blame them? When mysterious threats are lurking just beyond the hive, defenses are up. You don't want to lose any of your own, but sometimes these things happen. A bee's gotta do what a bee's gotta do.

Ratrug has been stung. He was a Bee.
It is Night 2. Day 3 will begin in 24 hours.

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Day 3

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There are certain bees in a hive who are wily and clever at evading the enemy. They dart and dodge and hide when being pursued and are capable of tricking their pursuer. The Anti Bee Confederacy goes after these bees with a vengeance because they hate being outsmarted by such maneuvering.

Long Con has been exterminated. He was a Bee.
It is Day 3. You have 48 hours to sting somebody.


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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 3]

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Please note the poll end time is one minute early at 5:59 edt on March 24th.
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sat Aug 21, 2021 3:24 pm Always good to remember that there is no such thing as a Mafia circumstance that is worth real human emotion. Sometimes it will naturally come out, but it can be contained if we just remember that this is a game on a message board forum that 99.99% of the population of the Earth has never heard of before. No matter how successful anyone is, it means just about nothing.

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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 3]

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who got the gun though
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 3]

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Darnit.

I wasn't given the chemically propelled stinger weapon.

Was hoping to be given a free public green check of myself.
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If that doesn't make a mockery of my confidence in my solving then I don't know what will.
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 3]

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Esooa wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:20 pm who got the gun though
hi when does the tunnel start
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MartinGG99 wrote: Mon May 31, 2021 12:40 am The only notable "solving" I've done publicly has managed to kill someone who had the same power role and alignment as me.

If that doesn't make a mockery of my confidence in my solving then I don't know what will.
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 3]

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MartinGG99 wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:22 pm
Esooa wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:20 pm who got the gun though
hi when does the tunnel start
I'm voting you
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 3]

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I will avenge you Long Con :noble: if it’s the last thing I do. And it very well may be. :haha: I am the beesparado
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 3]

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So I’m thinking if the mafia chose me that means I’m likely wrong about a couple things lol not to figure out what.
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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fingersplints wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:00 am Alison

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So this was the last gth read I gave during the last day phase. I reckon these people wouldn’t have picked me, because it’s obvious I’d shoot one of them. These people might have picked me, while these people would have felt completely safe from me shooting them, and maybe I’m completely wrong on my reads and it’s one of them. Maybe I’m paranoid and overthinking.
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 3]

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martins vote on ratrug was fr so bad
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 3]

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nanook can die for his vote there too
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 3]

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like imo he was obviously towny and it makes literally no sense to vote him there
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 3]

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I don’t think ratrug was “so obviously townie” but at the same time I do think it’s suspicious how many votes they got and last minute too. I wouldn’t be surprised if mafia voted there, but to go for someone “so obviously townie” as you say, there would have had to been a reason. Who were the others in danger? Was it quin and Seanzie? Was the ratrug push a save
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 3]

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Where is Alison when I need her
Hope she feels like playing today. I need guidance
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 3]

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Esooa wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:02 pm nanook can die for his vote there too
I think minimally @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME should explain what he saw at the last minute that caused him to flip from "Ratrug is towny" to "Ratrug is where my vote should go".
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 2]

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fingersplints wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 6:44 pm
fingersplints wrote: Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:00 am Alison

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So this was the last gth read I gave during the last day phase. I reckon these people wouldn’t have picked me, because it’s obvious I’d shoot one of them. These people might have picked me, while these people would have felt completely safe from me shooting them, and maybe I’m completely wrong on my reads and it’s one of them. Maybe I’m paranoid and overthinking.
I see that you are really embracing the glow text:P
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 3]

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safest shot is quin, just cleans up yesterday's wagons and gives us a better idea of the movement
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 3]

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@Seanzie i love it. If I die in this game today, I will still be happy because this game gave me glow text lol If I could write all my posts in glow, I would.
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Re: Bee Mafia [DAY 3]

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ts account wrote: Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:52 pm safest shot is quin, just cleans up yesterday's wagons and gives us a better idea of the movement
I disagree. I voted for Quin. Why would they give me a shot, when the most likely person I would shoot is them? I think I got to go for one of the more mid suspicious people
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