Misfits Mafia (END GAME)

#151

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Epignosis, you know what to do.

#152

DharmaHelper wrote:
Suddenly, before he could even thank his newfound friends, a block of ice rained from the sky, followed by several more.
Epignosis, you know what to do.

Is what I meant to say.

#153

DharmaHelper wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
Suddenly, before he could even thank his newfound friends, a block of ice rained from the sky, followed by several more.
Epignosis, you know what to do.
Is what I meant to say.

What? I couldn't hear you.

#154

Classic.

#155

nutella wrote:SVS, I'm guessing Made's impression that I know what's going on could be explained by the fact that I introduced him to this site/forum mafia and so he's aware that I'm an experienced player. (Also I'm one of the few players who has watched Misfits, but that's probably not too important but you all should watch it, it's excellent fun)

I missed this I think before i made my last post~ this sounds reasonable. Danas jumping in to defend him got my other brow up, but I can see where you are coming from. I don't love voting for nubs on Day One anyhow.

So are we all hailing DH, His Radiance?

#156

S~V~S wrote:hailing

That's what the post indicated.

#157

Epignosis wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
Suddenly, before he could even thank his newfound friends, a block of ice rained from the sky, followed by several more.
Epignosis, you know what to do.
Is what I meant to say.
What? I couldn't hear you.

you two are killing me!!

Great post MR!

This game is indeed interesting but more importantly it is fun!

#158

Speaking of comedy and death, this just in:

http://insidemovies.ew.com/2014/08/11/r ... ead-at-63/

RIP RW

#159

Oh my that is so sucky!
He was so awesome!

#160

I am confused, I thought night was 24 hours and day was 48?

#161

A note to all players: I will be sending out PMs throughout the day (aka: throughout the RL night). I'm on my Nook right now so if you catch any typos, let me know. I may have to finish from my work PC.

Linki: Well there's my first slip-up! Lol. It is a speed-game, so if you guys want 24 hour days and nights, I can keep it that way. And if you want 48, that's cool too!

#162

Well shit. Robin Williams

#163

So yeah...Day 1 yo. How ya'll all sleep?

#164

Made wrote:So yeah...Day 1 yo. How ya'll all sleep?

I feel pretty good. Confident as I can be given Day 1's are usually shots in the dark

#165

DharmaHelper wrote:
I feel pretty good. Confident as I can be given Day 1's are usually shots in the dark

Yeah, same here my dude. There seem to be hella special abbilites this game. What worries me the most is the uninvited guest. We have no clue what that nigga's powers are, nor what they're goal is.

Aye. you know wadda leader does yet doe?

Also, anyone gotta picture of who voted for who yesterday? holla at me if ya do.
Ya boy,
Made

#166

I am good with 24/24 or 48/24 whatever is best for Host and everyone.

quote="Made"]So yeah...Day 1 yo. How ya'll all sleep?[/quote]

I like to sleep at night in a bed with my soft pillow.
How do you sleep?

#167

Made wrote:There seem to be hella special abbilites this game. What worries me the most is the uninvited guest. We have no clue what that nigga's powers are, nor what they're goal is.

He's Seth, and he takes powers from people and gives them to other people.

#168

Epignosis wrote:
Made wrote:There seem to be hella special abbilites this game. What worries me the most is the uninvited guest. We have no clue what that nigga's powers are, nor what they're goal is.
He's Seth, and he takes powers from people and gives them to other people.

I feel like that would get really confusing really fast.

#169

did you just seriously use that word

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #170

Enrique you're not playing go home

#171

First you beg me to play then you defend this terrible racist... smh

#172

So far being leader is pretty boring Made.

#173

Dana wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Made wrote:There seem to be hella special abbilites this game. What worries me the most is the uninvited guest. We have no clue what that nigga's powers are, nor what they're goal is.
He's Seth, and he takes powers from people and gives them to other people.
I feel like that would get really confusing really fast.

Switching people's powers? Not confusing at all. The Syndicate has seen some wild games here with astonishing powers, and given the theme, this is precisely what I would do with the mystery role. Look at the balance. Ten civilians, two on Mafia Team A and three on Mafia Team B, plus a mystery character? It's something I would do, so I applaud it. Imagine if Seth stole a kill and gave it to a civilian.

#174

Epignosis wrote:
Dana wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Made wrote:There seem to be hella special abbilites this game. What worries me the most is the uninvited guest. We have no clue what that nigga's powers are, nor what they're goal is.
He's Seth, and he takes powers from people and gives them to other people.
I feel like that would get really confusing really fast.
Switching people's powers? Not confusing at all. The Syndicate has seen some wild games here with astonishing powers, and given the theme, this is precisely what I would do with the mystery role. Look at the balance. Ten civilians, two on Mafia Team A and three on Mafia Team B, plus a mystery character? It's something I would do, so I applaud it. Imagine if Seth stole a kill and gave it to a civilian.

Imagine if a member of the mafia missed the vote and then got their kill stolen. THAT would make for a crazy game. Right? Right?

#175

DharmaHelper wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Dana wrote:
Epignosis wrote:
Made wrote:There seem to be hella special abbilites this game. What worries me the most is the uninvited guest. We have no clue what that nigga's powers are, nor what they're goal is.
He's Seth, and he takes powers from people and gives them to other people.
I feel like that would get really confusing really fast.
Switching people's powers? Not confusing at all. The Syndicate has seen some wild games here with astonishing powers, and given the theme, this is precisely what I would do with the mystery role. Look at the balance. Ten civilians, two on Mafia Team A and three on Mafia Team B, plus a mystery character? It's something I would do, so I applaud it. Imagine if Seth stole a kill and gave it to a civilian.
Imagine if a member of the mafia missed the vote and then got their kill stolen. THAT would make for a crazy game. Right? Right?

Something quite similar happened in Willow.

#176

That was the joke.

#177

DharmaHelper wrote:That was the joke.

I didn't think people remembered Willow.

#178

Epignosis wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:That was the joke.
I didn't think people remembered Willow.

I remember not winning it.

P.S. I'm your mod. Please PM me and say hi.

#179

Since DH is our leader now who do you think we should vote for Day 1?

#180

Hedgeowl wrote:Since DH is our leader now who do you think we should vote for Day 1?

You should vote for whomever you feel is the most suspicious.

You should certainly not depend entirely on me to determine your vote.

#181

Yo, Anyone wanna come forward and claim a role?

#182

Made wrote:Yo, Anyone wanna come forward and claim a role?

Role claiming is generally considered poor form and against most games' rules. This is what I meant when I was concerned about you making your bones kid.

#183

DharmaHelper wrote:
Hedgeowl wrote:Since DH is our leader now who do you think we should vote for Day 1?
You should vote for whomever you feel is the most suspicious.

You should certainly not depend entirely on me to determine your vote.

Whew, I feel better about your leadership already. Worthy answer sir!

Which one of you hooligans gets my vote?

#184

DharmaHelper wrote:
Made wrote:Yo, Anyone wanna come forward and claim a role?
Role claiming is generally considered poor form and against most games' rules. This is what I meant when I was concerned about you making your bones kid.

Ight, what about calling your Class/alliance?

#185

Made wrote:
DharmaHelper wrote:
Made wrote:Yo, Anyone wanna come forward and claim a role?
Role claiming is generally considered poor form and against most games' rules. This is what I meant when I was concerned about you making your bones kid.
Ight, what about calling your Class/alliance?

Could you demonstrate what you mean with respect to "claim[ing] a role" or "calling your Class/alliance?"

#186

Epignosis wrote: Could you demonstrate what you mean with respect to "claim[ing] a role" or "calling your Class/alliance?"

Being like "yo i'm misfit" "yo i'm towny". I'd assuming Probation and Virtue wouldn't wanna call, but they could yo, haha.

**http://www.last.fm/user/nutella23** · #187

...bro, kinda the whole point of the game is to convince people you're on the good side whether you are or not

#188

Well yeah lol. My thing is doe, If people start claiming township/misfit, one group will have more people than the other, meaning a higher conentration of non-homies. So if we do end up having to do a random kill, we''d increase our chances of killing Virtue/Probation worker. Iunno, I'm new kid on the block, just trying to get some conversation started.

also is it possible to have a no lynch day?

#189

For those who don't know / or are wondering:

There are certain versions of Mafia that involve role claiming. These formats usually involve games where info dumping is not just allowed but encouraged.

For those unaccustomed to The Syndicate:

1. Role claiming is technically allowed, but role "outing" generally is not. You may say, "I am the Son of Sam," but you may not say "I role checked Player A and he's the Son of Sam."

2. Info-dumping is also frowned upon (which is really what "role-outing" is). Suppose you won information. You can't say, "Holy shit I just found out that Phylis tried to kill Ethel." That sort of shit doesn't fly in the nursing homes and it doesn't work here.

3. You can't double target (target the same person two nights in a row). I know it's mentioned in the rules, but I've seen setups where that sort of thing is okay.

4. No lynch options / Day phases generally do not happen here (I've seen one elsewhere, but never here). Some hosts do end ties in no lynches (I myself have done that from time to time).

If you want to know what is allowed and what is not, please PM your host.

Hope that helps.

#190

Okay.

SVS asks if anyone's up to volunteer for the leadership role in her first post. I was the first to volunteer, but SVS immediately voted Sorsha because puppies. It seems strange to me that after a serious establishment from SVS that she was interested in who to vote for, she tosses consideration out the window and votes for the one who's going to give her a free puppy. She knows that there's plenty of time to vote, why toss it for such a random, informal candidate? My vote was fast but it was a self-vote. Some time later SVS makes a morning post, a fragment of which defends her early vote for Sorsha. At first I liked her defense for voting early, that we're not voting to kill someone so it most likely doesn't matter too much, all that. But then...

S~V~S wrote: Puppies aside, the main reason I voted for Sorsha so early is that she acted like a leader. She came in and boldly tried to buy the thread, no waiting and discussing for her. She saw what she wanted, and she made an effort to get it by bribing us to follow her. Whether that effort pans out for her or not is a "time will tell" thing. Initially I wanted to wait and hear from everyone blah blah but I think a bold move is a mark of leadership. Had someone else been the one to come in here with a bold move, they would have gotten my vote. Even good old El Hypocritico

Now wait a second. Sorsha didn't act like anything when SVS voted for her, she didn't have the time to. All she said was that anyone who voted for her got a free puppy. That's not being a bold leader, that's being playful. SVS actually considers the free puppy post a legitimate "bribe" here, and says as much. And even if is to be considered a serious "bold" bribe somehow, how is that acting like a leader? I really don't like how SVS goes from asking for a volunteer as if it were a serious concern of hers who gets the vote, then immediately voting for someone who made what's essentially a joke post, then goes back to being serious with defending that vote by making the candidate out to be a bold, audacious leader, entirely for the following post:

Sorsha wrote:Everyone who votes for me gets a free puppy!

And now for some hypocrisy. In a later post defending her vote for someone based on a single post, she claims Made to be lynch-worthy just for saying that nutella "knows what's up" citing only three posts. (one of which makes a good point against Sorsha...coincidence?) She tries to make it look like that Made was serious in her tone as opposed to being playful (this is the second time SVS has done this).

S~V~S wrote:
Now, THIS is interesting:

Made wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:I'm strongly considering voting for nutella

Yeah, she seems to know what's up

Really? These are her posts in this game:

nutella wrote:yey game! huh, pick a leader, that's an interesting day 0 poll.

nutella wrote:I would more likely trust DH than SVS I think Canuck though, I'd put my money on her.

Those who have voted, is this a changeable vote?

nutella wrote:
Sorsha wrote: I think I am easy enough for most people to read, if I did happen to be bad (which I'm not), you'd all be able to tell in a day or two and could lynch me. I think I'm a good choice.
Really? I thought I'd seen you make it to the end as a sneaky baddie quite a few times...
Which of these make you think she knows whats up more so than anyone else playing so far? If this was a lynch, I think this post would have been worth a Day One vote, and it still might be.

Here's what I find rather amusing. Look at the bold. SVS attacks Made here for saying that nutella "knows what's up". Why not attack DH instead, who said he was strongly considering voting for her? That's a much more extreme indication of a serious endorsement than what Made said, so why go after Made and not DH? Made addressed this fallacy himself, and this is the response that SVS gave:

S~V~S wrote:
I voted for Sorsha, not DH, and it isn't a threat. It's a statement of suspicion; I find your behavior suspicious, and i am saying so~ as far as I am aware I can't lynch anyone by myself.Stating whom I suspect is how I play the game. Your statement was not the same as his. He said we was strongly considering voting for her. You said that she seemed like she knew what was going on. I get what you are saying, but i am not sure that I buy it tbh.

She dodges that she finds DH a good candidate without reason by saying that she didn't vote for him, she voted for someone else. Again, I find this amusing because in this same post SVS uses logic that renders that defense obsolete. A "statement of suspicion" is the same for a lynch vote as a statement of trust is for the Day 0 vote, so it doesn't matter that she didn't actually vote DH, she still excused him for a stronger offense than Made's. She tries to explain this by dividing the two statements of DH and Made: one is a vote statement, the other is "nutella knows stuff".

Okay.

Let's see here.

Why would DH consider nutella a likely vote? Her posts. Which, at the time, were three. Not much to base a vote off of, but hey, it's more than a "bribe" for a free puppy. Now what about Made? I don't know how familiar is with the language that Made has been going for throughout the game...but..."know's what's up" does not imply actual knowledge. At all. It's like, she's cool, she's hip, she's funky. When you take a simple ebonics-influenced phrase like that and stretch it so far you actually imply that it meant that nutella had superior knowledge of the game than everyone else, and you use that absurd leap as a justification for a potential lynch vote? I rest my case.

No, wait, then in her next post SVS dismisses her issues with Made over a simple misunderstanding while proceeding to hail DH, the one who possessed a stronger case against him based on SVS's own logic and had no newbie-related misunderstanding to excuse it. NOW I rest my case.

I've also been taking issue with Sorsha's post, but everything that's bugged me about her has already been mentioned extensively enough, mainly that she tried to make it out like if she were scum she could be lynched easily. Also her case against Dana was horrible and it was followed by the beautifully-fence-sitting statement that she trusts SVS but that SVS could be tricking her. That was her most recent post, too.

I've already stated my issues with DH early on and they're still present. His fittingly Ned Stark-ian "selfless leader" bullshtick seems fabricated to gain trust (especially taking into account that as I mentioned before it's regarding an online Mafia game for a vote that the general consensus seems to think doesn't matter much in the first place, even as far the actual game goes), and the fact that it worked as well as it did certainly doesn't help. Feigning honor and selflessness to gain power, how politican of you, DH.

I'm strongly in favor of a 48 hour day to see which of these three (SVS, Sorsha, DH, or a possible other candidate if someone else gets very suspicious very fast) will get my vote.

#191

#192

Keterman wrote:I'm strongly in favor of a 48 hour day to see which of these three (SVS, Sorsha, DH, or a possible other candidate if someone else gets very suspicious very fast) will get my vote.

Speed games on The Syndicate are 24 hour Days and 24 hour Nights. Full games here are 48 hour Days and 24 hour Nights.

#193

I ain't got nothing to say.

also thanks for the heads up Epignosis

#194

Made wrote:also thanks for the heads up Epignosis

Not a problem you, home slice, person of...color.

#195

I know you won't believe my words Keterman, so I'm hoping I can let my actions prove to you that I am not feigning anything. I genuinely believed what I said about picking a leader, and after playing (I think it was MP's) Rock and Roll(?) game with the DJ and seeing how that role was easily abused, I was genuinely invested in finding the best person for this leadership thing. It may be, as you say, for "just a game", but my plan is to win this game.

#196

I concede that my issues with you, DH, are mainly vibe-based and if I was more familiar with your meta I would be more confident with my rad of you. But because I'm not familiar with your meta, actions rather than words will indeed help promote you to a null read for me, and I'm glad you understand that.

@Epignosis

I see, but I think our mod said earlier that the days in this game were meant to be 48 hours.

#197

DharmaHelper wrote:I know you won't believe my words Keterman, so I'm hoping I can let my actions prove to you that I am not feigning anything. I genuinely believed what I said about picking a leader, and after playing (I think it was MP's) Rock and Roll(?) game with the DJ and seeing how that role was easily abused, I was genuinely invested in finding the best person for this leadership thing. It may be, as you say, for "just a game", but my plan is to win this game.

Ight, this could either be telling or damning, hell maybe both. What you think about S~V~S so far? Keep in mind Keterman's argument, while convincing, ain't law. Say what you think yo.

#198

Keter stole my thoughts about SVS and eloquently laid them out for us to read. I would have said them myself if I weren't working like crazy right now.

#199

To clarify, and our mod was kind enough to help me with this, Speed days are supposed to be 24 hours. If it's doable for everyone, that's the way I've been advised to go. Coolio?

I'll have to extend tomorrow by a few hours anyways just because I have a 2 hour drive back from a 4:30 traffic court date, but other than that, 24 will be the norm.

#200

Keterman wrote:I concede that my issues with you, DH, are mainly vibe-based and if I was more familiar with your meta I would be more confident with my rad of you. But because I'm not familiar with your meta, actions rather than words will indeed help promote you to a null read for me, and I'm glad you understand that.

I would like to comment on this and something else you said. Gotta wee wee.

Keterman wrote:@Epignosis

I see, but I think our mod said earlier that the days in this game were meant to be 48 hours.

I'm a "mod" (that is I referee things here at The Syndicate- hence my ugly yellow name instead of a cool blue one). Mister Rearranger is a "host" (he's running the game). A Speed game is 24 hours for each phase.

Be back after a piss and a fresh beer.

Who's next?