Fargo Mafia [Game Ends]

[falcon45ca]

Setup spec on the game being multi ball is the same as flavour spec based off knowledge of the film & series? Since when?


Is this an idea you guys tossed about in Maf chat, but forgot to fully flesh out?


Cuz I don't see how TSP asks about multi ball, and Sloon replies re: flavour spec, and the 2 are lock step on the issue so quickly.

[BoKnows]

Setup spec on the game being multi ball is the same as flavour spec based off knowledge of the film & series? Since when?


Is this an idea you guys tossed about in Maf chat, but forgot to fully flesh out?


Cuz I don't see how TSP asks about multi ball, and Sloon replies re: flavour spec, and the 2 are lock step on the issue so quickly.

What are you talking about

[Sloonei]

Setup spec on the game being multi ball is the same as flavour spec based off knowledge of the film & series? Since when?


Is this an idea you guys tossed about in Maf chat, but forgot to fully flesh out?


Cuz I don't see how TSP asks about multi ball, and Sloon replies re: flavour spec, and the 2 are lock step on the issue so quickly.

This is silly.

[Sloonei]

It is now page 3 and no one has asked me about my Alison read.

[BoKnows]

It is now page 3 and no one has asked me about my Alison read.

Alsion read?

[Sloonei]

It is now page 3 and no one has asked me about my Alison read.

Alsion read?

Oh it's page 2 now. Alison is mafia.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

To someone without deep knowledge of the setup or the Fargo theme, there would seem to be two available theories about why someone else would immediately speculate about multiball:

1) That someone is on a mafia team and has some unique insight indicating that it's possible.

2) Fargo as a theme presents some unique structure that could be appropriate for multiball.

I don't fault Sloonei for his interpretation, and it seems evident Tony is familiar with the theme. So #2 is fine.

[falcon45ca]

setup spec time: i wonder if this is multiball

I have only seen the film and the first season of the show. So I have no flavor speculation.

I have only seen the film and the first season of the show. So I have no flavor speculation.

Odd. Has anyone asked or mentioned flavour speculation?

I have only seen the film and the first season of the show. So I have no flavor speculation.

Odd. Has anyone asked or mentioned flavour speculation?

yes

I have only seen the film and the first season of the show. So I have no flavor speculation.

Odd. Has anyone asked or mentioned flavour speculation?

TonyStarkPrime

Setup spec on the game being multi ball is the same as flavour spec based off knowledge of the film & series? Since when?


Is this an idea you guys tossed about in Maf chat, but forgot to fully flesh out?


Cuz I don't see how TSP asks about multi ball, and Sloon replies re: flavour spec, and the 2 are lock step on the issue so quickly.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I would be nice if other people would talk about Sloonei's Alison read and/or about Sloonei or Alison separately. My read on both players is in the I'm not telling zone until further notice.

[Sloonei]

To someone without deep knowledge of the setup or the Fargo theme, there would seem to be two available theories about why someone else would immediately speculate about multiball:

1) That someone is on a mafia team and has some unique insight indicating that it's possible.

2) Fargo as a theme presents some unique structure that could be appropriate for multiball.

I don't fault Sloonei for his interpretation, and it seems evident Tony is familiar with the theme. So #2 is fine.

Yes

[BoKnows]

yes

[KZA]

@Sloonei fine tell us about your Alison read

[TonyStarkPrime]

Alison is a wolf for signalling

[falcon45ca]

Setup spec on the game being multi ball is the same as flavour spec based off knowledge of the film & series? Since when?


Is this an idea you guys tossed about in Maf chat, but forgot to fully flesh out?


Cuz I don't see how TSP asks about multi ball, and Sloon replies re: flavour spec, and the 2 are lock step on the issue so quickly.

This is silly.

You're silly

[falcon45ca]

Alison is a wolf for signalling

Didn't you just townread her?

[KZA]

Alison is a wolf for signalling

Didn't you just townread her?

it's a meme from last game

[falcon45ca]

Reads are for nerds.

Oh it's page 2 now. Alison is mafia.

Nice

[KZA]

Reads are for nerds.

Oh it's page 2 now. Alison is mafia.

Nice

what do you think of that

[falcon45ca]

Alison is a wolf for signalling

Didn't you just townread her?

it's a meme from last game

You crazy kids always have the neatest memes

[Sloonei]

@Sloonei fine tell us about your Alison read

I will. But first I want to see if you’ll be willing to volunteer a GTH read on her.

[KZA]

@Sloonei fine tell us about your Alison read

I will. But first I want to see if you’ll be willing to volunteer a GTH read on her.

town

[falcon45ca]

Reads are for nerds.

Oh it's page 2 now. Alison is mafia.

Nice

what do you think of that

Sloonei is starting to ping me as scum

[Sloonei]

Reads are for nerds.

Oh it's page 2 now. Alison is mafia.

Nice

what do you think of that

Sloonei is starting to ping me as scum

interesting

[TonyStarkPrime]

now you're just asking for it

[KZA]

Reads are for nerds.

Oh it's page 2 now. Alison is mafia.

Nice

what do you think of that

Sloonei is starting to ping me as scum

For the thing you just quoted, along with the setup speculation?

[tutuu]

HELLOOOOOOOOOO HOW ARE YOU GUYS I HAVENT PLAYED MAFIA IN SO LONG IM SO EXCITED I COULDNT WAIT TILL TRH GAELME ISNOVER IM ACTUALY FEELING SO FRESH LIKE I JUST DTSRTED PPLAYIBG MAFIA AGAIN AND THERES SO MUCH MEMORIES

IM AT MY GRANDMAS VILLAGE AND IN THIS VERY ROOM I STARTED PLAYING MAFIA A FEW YEARS AGO. ALSO I HAVE NO WIFI AND I HAVE TO USE MOBILE DATA THANKFULLY MY PLAN GIVES ME 20 GB EVERY MONTH. ALSO ON MY FITDT SYNDICATE GAME I WAS IN MY OTHER GTNADMAS VILLAGE AND I ALSO HAD TO USE MOBILE DATA AND ITS SOOO NOSTALGIC SO REFTEHSING

[tutuu]

I was thinking before the game - what do i do when i rand scum? People expect alot of my scum game i need to impress i cant disapppoint. So i wss thinking of opening up old town games of mine and lowkey copy pasting postd, only changing a little bit. But im town so i dont have toml. But i think it eoupd have worked. I am considering not telling. Guys of yhis hypotethical scum plan but since il toen i can swueeze out dome vlaue out of it still by revealing it and thus showing my kind nature

[tutuu]

ALSO im finally toen in a game with eso @Esooa so now I DONT NEED TO WORRY ABOUT HOW I APPROACH UR SLOT (cuz im town hehe)

[tutuu]

I was yearning for this fir so long i wanna approach this with a FREDH MIND. I WANNA break Old habits. There are so many aplrowches approaches i can take right now. Which one do i take. I ahve so many options. This game is like a. Sweet strawbeerry cake that im about tie at and im choosing from which side do i dig in with the spolon andeattttt tadty tadty tadty stawbewwy yessss earrrr to meee

[staypositivefriend]

hi im gay =)

[tutuu]

Ill be honest the first thing i did is reread my own posts jm not reading thread yet im rerradig my posts to admire myself famn is this lowkey narcissistic. But it gives me more pleasure to read my posts than to read ither peoples posts

[staypositivefriend]

i think that tutuu is a villager

[JaggedJimmyJay]

hi im gay =)

hi gay im dad

[tutuu]

Nownif someone says "tutuu lock town like ppl sued to i will bein EUPHORIA i will SWEAT and BREATH HEAVY now im NOT DAYIG THAT U HAVE TO OR U SHOULD. BUT. IM SAYING HYPOTHETICALLY if someone did i would react likr that

[Sloonei]

@Sloonei fine tell us about your Alison read

I will. But first I want to see if you’ll be willing to volunteer a GTH read on her.

town

Thanks.

I am perhaps pre-conditioned to distrust an early Alison claim because I have seen her do it two times and she has lied both times. But I question this one in particular.

Falcon V
JPIC W
MacDougall V
JJJ V

Dear mafia: I am a provable town sided PR. I have just given you four accurate reads. Now you will have to deal with confirmed town Alison the whole of D1. On N1 you will have to choose between shooting town Alison, town Mac or town JJJ. Possibly even town Sloonei as well. Have fun.

I am wary of the motivation for Alison to claim exactly like this in her entry post. She is explicitly wedging herself into a pre-formed town-core via this claim. It seems as though she has the confidence to project this claim into the thread right off the bat because she is comfortable declaring town reads on Mac and Jay ~20 posts into the game. I don't disagree with either of those reads, but it feels like Alison has pre-concocted a plan to drop this partial claim which hinges on these other "strong players" also being town. I question whether Alison would make this claim if she didn't have those town reads, but I also question that she would be confident enough in these reads to make the claim only 20 posts in.

In the Mafia Alison world, she wants to wedge herself into a towncore of her own invention by capitalizing on an advantageous role which can (presumably) be used to appear as mechanically confirmed later down the line (we explicitly are told that we know nothing about the setup. Any variety of a role claim should be taken with a grain of salt right now), and pocketing a few of the more authoritative voices in the thread right off the bat.

[tutuu]

i think that tutuu is a villager

OH. MY
FUCKING. GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD



AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

[Sloonei]

tutuu lock intoxicated

[KZA]

k Sloonei is town

Falcon's case on him I'm having trouble believing is real tbh

[tutuu]

falcon and Mac are both civilians.

Yes

[KZA]

@Sloonei fine tell us about your Alison read

I will. But first I want to see if you’ll be willing to volunteer a GTH read on her.

town

Thanks.

I am perhaps pre-conditioned to distrust an early Alison claim because I have seen her do it two times and she has lied both times. But I question this one in particular.

Falcon V
JPIC W
MacDougall V
JJJ V

Dear mafia: I am a provable town sided PR. I have just given you four accurate reads. Now you will have to deal with confirmed town Alison the whole of D1. On N1 you will have to choose between shooting town Alison, town Mac or town JJJ. Possibly even town Sloonei as well. Have fun.

I am wary of the motivation for Alison to claim exactly like this in her entry post. She is explicitly wedging herself into a pre-formed town-core via this claim. It seems as though she has the confidence to project this claim into the thread right off the bat because she is comfortable declaring town reads on Mac and Jay ~20 posts into the game. I don't disagree with either of those reads, but it feels like Alison has pre-concocted a plan to drop this partial claim which hinges on these other "strong players" also being town. I question whether Alison would make this claim if she didn't have those town reads, but I also question that she would be confident enough in these reads to make the claim only 20 posts in.

In the Mafia Alison world, she wants to wedge herself into a towncore of her own invention by capitalizing on an advantageous role which can (presumably) be used to appear as mechanically confirmed later down the line (we explicitly are told that we know nothing about the setup. Any variety of a role claim should be taken with a grain of salt right now), and pocketing a few of the more authoritative voices in the thread right off the bat.

Okay this seems reasonable

On a scale of your choosing, how strong do you feel about this read?

[tutuu]

falcon and Mac are both civilians.

Jjj is also civ or 3p

[falcon45ca]

Reads are for nerds.

Oh it's page 2 now. Alison is mafia.

Nice

what do you think of that

Sloonei is starting to ping me as scum

For the thing you just quoted, along with the setup speculation?

Also my tummy. I'm developing a gut read off him

[Sloonei]

I feel like it is a Day 0 read.

[Sloonei]

Reads are for nerds.

Oh it's page 2 now. Alison is mafia.

Nice

what do you think of that

Sloonei is starting to ping me as scum

For the thing you just quoted, along with the setup speculation?

Also my tummy. I'm developing a gut read off him

Explain the world in which I am mafia here.

[tutuu]

JPIC is the town cop.

Made me smile

[KZA]

I feel like it is a Day 0 read.

if this is in response to me then that's roughly what I wanted to hear

[falcon45ca]

@Sloonei fine tell us about your Alison read

I will. But first I want to see if you’ll be willing to volunteer a GTH read on her.

town

Thanks.

I am perhaps pre-conditioned to distrust an early Alison claim because I have seen her do it two times and she has lied both times. But I question this one in particular.

Falcon V
JPIC W
MacDougall V
JJJ V

Dear mafia: I am a provable town sided PR. I have just given you four accurate reads. Now you will have to deal with confirmed town Alison the whole of D1. On N1 you will have to choose between shooting town Alison, town Mac or town JJJ. Possibly even town Sloonei as well. Have fun.

I am wary of the motivation for Alison to claim exactly like this in her entry post. She is explicitly wedging herself into a pre-formed town-core via this claim. It seems as though she has the confidence to project this claim into the thread right off the bat because she is comfortable declaring town reads on Mac and Jay ~20 posts into the game. I don't disagree with either of those reads, but it feels like Alison has pre-concocted a plan to drop this partial claim which hinges on these other "strong players" also being town. I question whether Alison would make this claim if she didn't have those town reads, but I also question that she would be confident enough in these reads to make the claim only 20 posts in.

In the Mafia Alison world, she wants to wedge herself into a towncore of her own invention by capitalizing on an advantageous role which can (presumably) be used to appear as mechanically confirmed later down the line (we explicitly are told that we know nothing about the setup. Any variety of a role claim should be taken with a grain of salt right now), and pocketing a few of the more authoritative voices in the thread right off the bat.

This I agree with.

[staypositivefriend]

Currently I have the tiebreaker vote. If I vote for 8PM EST can you promise me that you will deliver a scum flip through your EOD interactions?

No. That would be silly.

^^before i saw sloonei's explanation for his read on alison, i actually thought that his suspicion toward her was borne out of this specific interaction

alison is a very purposeful player, and i didn't understand her purpose behind asking that specific question to sloonei. it didn't feel like a question that was intended to get alignment indicative information out of sloonei, nor did it feel like a question that was intended to create a serious deal with him, so it left me scratching my head. it made me wonder if alison was asking an effectively pointless question for the sake of justifying her vote in the poll, and didn't feel comfortable placing a vote down w/out providing some kind of justification for it

i have no other thoughts about alison ATM

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I am wary of the motivation for Alison to claim exactly like this in her entry post. She is explicitly wedging herself into a pre-formed town-core via this claim. It seems as though she has the confidence to project this claim into the thread right off the bat because she is comfortable declaring town reads on Mac and Jay ~20 posts into the game. I don't disagree with either of those reads, but it feels like Alison has pre-concocted a plan to drop this partial claim which hinges on these other "strong players" also being town. I question whether Alison would make this claim if she didn't have those town reads, but I also question that she would be confident enough in these reads to make the claim only 20 posts in.

In the Mafia Alison world, she wants to wedge herself into a towncore of her own invention by capitalizing on an advantageous role which can (presumably) be used to appear as mechanically confirmed later down the line (we explicitly are told that we know nothing about the setup. Any variety of a role claim should be taken with a grain of salt right now), and pocketing a few of the more authoritative voices in the thread right off the bat.

Some similar concerns have at least passed through my head. I don't have the same "early" anecdotes to reference -- I'm not sure I played in any relevant game. I do have a basic meta parallel however, from Bread Mafia, wherein Alison's first play was to spam similar town reads (including a frivolous town read on me) to ingratiate herself in an early town core. Notably she included her own teammate (DkKoba) in that example. Click here to reference that game in Alison's ISO, and scroll to the bottom for game-opening posts.

It's a very specific comparison, so I take it with a few grains of salt. For this game perhaps my most immediate attention is directed to:

Dear mafia: I am a provable town sided PR.

My first instinct is to shrug and say "okay". It depends on what "town-sided" really means in this context and on what Alison means to do with that. We'll see. Otherwise I don't view her as a civilian read to this point.

[tutuu]

Falcon and Alison think JPIC is W.
JJJ and Alison think Mac is V.
Mac and Alison think Falcon is V.

I am townreading all of Falcon/JJJ/Mac. If you'd like to pocket me for free, now is your chance. Limited time offer only, expires at the end of D0.

How do I say this. I actually am scumreading JPIC also. I didn't out that read because I didn't want to.

I believe you. How are you feeling this game Mac?

I have no feelings that directly pertain to this game. My general feelings towards life, myself and the time that I am bound to waste are negative though.

Huggieeeee maccie goattttt