Fargo Mafia [Game Ends]

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I think the spirit of fingersplints' posts convey a civilian character. I'm not sure I'll have confidence for process of elimination purposes without more direct hunting content. For the soul read though I am okay with calling her town.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

My teammates told me I should start posting so here I am

[JaggedJimmyJay]

My teammates told me I should start posting so here I am

I take this joke non-zero seriously.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

My teammates told me I should start posting so here I am

I take this joke non-zero seriously.

Ok

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'd been under the impression numerous people hadn't appeared yet, but the poll suggests otherwise. We're short only Dom and Michelle now, I believe. And I bet they split their votes based on location.

[Oddmerta]

My teammates told me I should start posting so here I am

I take this joke non-zero seriously.

Nanook will be dealt with

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I'm locking fingers town and never reconsidering

She's my guiding light this game

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

My teammates told me I should start posting so here I am

I take this joke non-zero seriously.

Nanook will be dealt with

That sounds ominous

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Here's my best Joseph impression

Tsp has 50 posts d0 he's near lock mafier

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Here's my best Joseph impression

Tsp has 50 posts d0 he's near lock mafier

Oh wow Joseph you know last time you made this read I didn't listen enough to it but this time I think I will, thanks for the tip buddy!

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I wonder if I have the most first-post role claims on the Syndicate.

Wilgy

[Strawhenge]

1. It does seem like a reach at surface level, so it might lose some authenticity points.

2. What are the other reasons tutuu is scum?

what is reaching here?

Just your read that JPIC is scum because he hasn't posted a lot. That's only based on how few times I've seen low post volume correlate to scumhood, though.

[tutuu]

i think nook town

[BoKnows]

on a scale from 1-10 how important is this day0 talk?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

on a scale from 1-10 how important is this day0 talk?

7 or 8

Important enough to be justified in existing, and it has produced for a number of people a strong set of early town reads. Not important enough to force yourself to read every single post if you don't want to. But if you don't, you should say new things on your own.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

i think nook town

Whatcha like, toots?

[BoKnows]

on a scale from 1-10 how important is this day0 talk?

7 or 8

Important enough to be justified in existing, and it has produced for a number of people a strong set of early town reads. Not important enough to force yourself to read every single post if you don't want to. But if you don't, you should say new things on your own.

Okay I'll come by and read the thread during study breaks.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

If this Day 0 poll remains logjammed, which I tend to anticipate with one east-American and one European left to vote, then I suggest one of the 8pm folks move to 6pm. I think it's less reasonable to ask Europeans to be awake at 1am or later than it is to ask west-Americans to be around at 3pm. I acknowledge it'd also be 8am for the poor folks on the Australian east coast.

[tutuu]

i think nook town

Whatcha like, toots?

My teammates told me I should start posting so here I am

i think openwolfing on the syndicate comes from town more often than from scum

or when it comes from scum generally its true (the jokes). like it would be funny if his teammates really told him to post. but if nook is scum i dont think its likely his teammates would tell him that he should post coz its day 0. so if he's scum he came up with the joke on his own when it, perhaps, wouldnt have been that funny coz its not actually true, the only fun factor would be just openwolfing as scum. so i think that scenario is less likely than him being town and wanting to make an openwolfing joke, i think it would be more fun to post it as town than as scum given the circumstance

[JaggedJimmyJay]

How does everyone feel about our Day 0 game state? What are your general vibes, Mafia players of Fargo Mafia?

[Justplayingitcool]

i think nook town

Whatcha like, toots?

My teammates told me I should start posting so here I am

i think openwolfing on the syndicate comes from town more often than from scum

or when it comes from scum generally its true (the jokes). like it would be funny if his teammates really told him to post. but if nook is scum i dont think its likely his teammates would tell him that he should post coz its day 0. so if he's scum he came up with the joke on his own when it, perhaps, wouldnt have been that funny coz its not actually true, the only fun factor would be just openwolfing as scum. so i think that scenario is less likely than him being town and wanting to make an openwolfing joke, i think it would be more fun to post it as town than as scum given the circumstance

Remember when i open wolfed in radiohead & that one turbo game ran by jjj?

Fun times

[falcon45ca]

Falcon has won so many games but the one he puts in his signature is the one where he got modkilled and granted a free win D2 due to host error. This guy is an absolute chad.

This appeal to my vanity has me sussing Alison pretty hard.

[Strawhenge]

I don't have any outright scumreads at the moment. A couple eyebrow-perking things that I've already mentioned (mostly the reactions to Alison's PR claim), but that's about it.

The only thing I'm directly interested in with her claim is: in a game designed to make nothing 'provable' until someone's card flips upon death, I'm interested in seeing how her PR is 'provable'.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I don't have any outright scumreads at the moment. A couple eyebrow-perking things that I've already mentioned (mostly the reactions to Alison's PR claim), but that's about it.

The only thing I'm directly interested in with her claim is: in a game designed to make nothing 'provable' until someone's card flips upon death, I'm interested in seeing how her PR is 'provable'.

Any town reads, Señor Strawhenge?

[falcon45ca]

i think nook town

Whatcha like, toots?

My teammates told me I should start posting so here I am

i think openwolfing on the syndicate comes from town more often than from scum

or when it comes from scum generally its true (the jokes). like it would be funny if his teammates really told him to post. but if nook is scum i dont think its likely his teammates would tell him that he should post coz its day 0. so if he's scum he came up with the joke on his own when it, perhaps, wouldnt have been that funny coz its not actually true, the only fun factor would be just openwolfing as scum. so i think that scenario is less likely than him being town and wanting to make an openwolfing joke, i think it would be more fun to post it as town than as scum given the circumstance

Do you have a hangover today? Seemed like you were 3 sheets to the wind last night

[falcon45ca]

on a scale from 1-10 how important is this day0 talk?

7 or 8

Important enough to be justified in existing, and it has produced for a number of people a strong set of early town reads. Not important enough to force yourself to read every single post if you don't want to. But if you don't, you should say new things on your own.

Okay I'll come by and read the thread during study breaks.

Dude, you changed your pic to a cute & cuddly seal?


Uber scummy. Zfetch would be proud tho

[tutuu]

i think nook town

Whatcha like, toots?

My teammates told me I should start posting so here I am

i think openwolfing on the syndicate comes from town more often than from scum

or when it comes from scum generally its true (the jokes). like it would be funny if his teammates really told him to post. but if nook is scum i dont think its likely his teammates would tell him that he should post coz its day 0. so if he's scum he came up with the joke on his own when it, perhaps, wouldnt have been that funny coz its not actually true, the only fun factor would be just openwolfing as scum. so i think that scenario is less likely than him being town and wanting to make an openwolfing joke, i think it would be more fun to post it as town than as scum given the circumstance

Do you have a hangover today? Seemed like you were 3 sheets to the wind last night

hihihihihi falcon cute

im goood my mom woke me up early and i had my alarm set up anyway to reserve a hotel room to a place; i wasnt dwunk i was sobewwwww

pat pat falconnie

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

on a scale from 1-10 how important is this day0 talk?

10

But also I'm not reading back

[Oddmerta]

on a scale from 1-10 how important is this day0 talk?

10

But also I'm not reading back

Dealt with

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

on a scale from 1-10 how important is this day0 talk?

10

But also I'm not reading back

Dealt with

Very ominous!

[Esooa]

apparently me quoting kza to say "weird champ post" is a scum read but jjj quoting someone to say what they did is >rand mafia isn't

you love to see it

[BoKnows]

on a scale from 1-10 how important is this day0 talk?

7 or 8

Important enough to be justified in existing, and it has produced for a number of people a strong set of early town reads. Not important enough to force yourself to read every single post if you don't want to. But if you don't, you should say new things on your own.

Okay I'll come by and read the thread during study breaks.

Dude, you changed your pic to a cute & cuddly seal?


Uber scummy. Zfetch would be proud tho

wholesome

[Oddmerta]

apparently me quoting kza to say "weird champ post" is a scum read but jjj quoting someone to say what they did is >rand mafia isn't

you love to see it

Run me through this interaction

[JaggedJimmyJay]

apparently me quoting kza to say "weird champ post" is a scum read but jjj quoting someone to say what they did is >rand mafia isn't

you love to see it

I don't know what this means.

Both comments are accusatory. Neither of them is well-founded. Neither of them needs to be well-founded.

[Strawhenge]

I don't have any outright scumreads at the moment. A couple eyebrow-perking things that I've already mentioned (mostly the reactions to Alison's PR claim), but that's about it.

The only thing I'm directly interested in with her claim is: in a game designed to make nothing 'provable' until someone's card flips upon death, I'm interested in seeing how her PR is 'provable'.

Any town reads, Señor Strawhenge?

Just town-leans, nothing solid so far:

Alison reads like an earnest townie trying to do anti-scum work—even if I don't agree/don't have the meta to agree. (e.g. TSP spilling TMI; I still don't see it, but )

falcon and MacDougall's Page 1 vigilance wrt JPIC's 'im town lol' post feels like very authentic scumhunter behavior.

I'm actually more nervous about the RYM crew than I am about new-to-me players, but you, RaggedRimmyRay, read like your usual supertown self—however with much more restraint / less immediate tenacity than what I remember. That could mean you're hiding something (for good or ill), but it also could mean that your meta has evolved these past six years. What gives me the town lean the most is that you're trying to get everyone to talk and generate read-material. The TownyTimmyTay that I know casts a loose but far-reaching net.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

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[Esooa]

Esooa has stated three suspicions that all look rather baked to me, and for similar reasons: doubling down on something unworthy of a stubborn view. This applies to her treatment of KZA, SPF, and myself -- primarily the former two since those have already involved direct interaction. The spoiler contains some of the receipts; I'm not going to spam them all in there though.

Griping with KZA about "not sure it's real" vs. "not sure it's legitimate" -- I'm not sure that's real.

Griping with SPF about taking a reserved approach to reading her after one or two games in which she made incorrect town reads -- at the least I don't think that's reasonable.

Griping with me for various level one beefs e.g. "showiness" or "made a post without a clear read in it". Refusing to view me through a "would make better posts if he was mafia" lens after meeting resistance to that read even though one of her gripes with me was that I did basically the same thing with Tony (didn't immediately assume he wouldn't make a post that is on the surface suspicious or that it's not worth poking him over on page one) It all feels a bit like activity inflation more than it feels like an effort to solve.

Spoiler: show

k Sloonei is town

Falcon's case on him I'm having trouble believing is real tbh

weirdchamp post

weak FOS Mafooa

if you were wanting to actually figure stuff out between them I have no clue why you say you have trouble believing it's real, rather than you're not sure of the legitimacy of it.

saying you're not sure if it's real = assumption the person is making it up, i.e. mafia

Not sure of it's legitimacy = not sure if their case holds water without assumption on their alignment

in fallout mafia you stated an early town read on me without problem

What's the difference?

you were mafia, though. i've learned that the best way to read you is to keep a microscope on your progressions & the specific angles that you push, and the game hasn't gone on for long enough for me to have any meaningful opinions about you. even so, you have my GTH read on you

I feel like you're faking paranoia/skepticism cause you're not sure how you should go about reading me as mafia

But okay

she just townread you when you were a wolf. Do you not think that this would have any impact?

this was last month,

"i like esooa's p#214 (and gimmick in general) both because her gimmick is funny and because she's doing something unique and out-of-character without caring about how it's going to make other people perceive her. my meta on esooa is that she tends to carve herself into her own corners of the game as town and isn't afraid to do stuff that goes against the mindset of ~wanting~ to be townread - i think that esooa adopting her gimmick for as long as she did is something that bodes well for. i also kind of liked esooa hiveminding w/me about one of rex's posts being towny on p#241. i'm not going to pretend to know how to read esooa, but i get generally good vibes from her slot so far"

as the 305th post

After Jess town read me, while I was wolf, two games in a row

I don't think that is why she isn't giving a read on me

setup spec time: i wonder if this is multiball

I bet mafia-aligned players are more likely to conceive of this by page two than civilians are. How about THAT?

probably, but are mafia more likely to say it than town? no

this entire post is so wrong I just couldn't ignore it despite my attempts to not address it

I literally said after like 1 post talking to kza that it's not really important

the problem with spfs read on me has NOTHING to do with the fact she misread me before. That was over a month ago and we have played two t/t games together since then in which she did not have a problem giving a read on me

not gonna talk about my read on you cause it's boring

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Just town-leans, nothing solid so far:

Alison reads like an earnest townie trying to do anti-scum work—even if I don't agree/don't have the meta to agree. (e.g. TSP spilling TMI; I still don't see it, but )

falcon and MacDougall's Page 1 vigilance wrt JPIC's 'im town lol' post feels like very authentic scumhunter behavior.

I'm actually more nervous about the RYM crew than I am about new-to-me players, but you, RaggedRimmyRay, read like your usual supertown self—however with much more restraint / less immediate tenacity than what I remember. That could mean you're hiding something (for good or ill), but it also could mean that your meta has evolved these past six years. What gives me the town lean the most is that you're trying to get everyone to talk and generate read-material. The TownyTimmyTay that I know casts a loose but far-reaching net.

Cool beans, thanks. How do you feel about Sloonei's concerns about Alison?

You're right that I'm more restrained. I think it's a product of the era more than anything. Back on RYM and earlier in my Syndicate tenure, I often felt the onus was on me to make games move -- that if I didn't post my arse off early and often, that games would stagnate. That may have been narcissistic of me at the time, though there were absolutely instances where it proved accurate. These days I am simply not needed for that purpose. Games explode into action with or without my help, because this modern crew is already naturally inclined to do all that. So it's nice to be able to reserve my comments a bit more and play more efficiently without feeling like it's going to cause the game to turn into a cadaver.

[Esooa]

apparently me quoting kza to say "weird champ post" is a scum read but jjj quoting someone to say what they did is >rand mafia isn't

you love to see it

Run me through this interaction

my posts about jjj were quickly met with defense from sloonei saying "that's just proverbial poo flinging" as if to say, it's just a day zero read, why take it seriously?

in the same vein my single catch-up post calling something weird champ doesn't seem to be given the same leeway

pretty annoying if you ask me tbh!

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I literally said after like 1 post talking to kza that it's not really important

I did almost the exact same thing with my read on Tony. What's your beef?

the problem with spfs read on me has NOTHING to do with the fact she misread me before. That was over a month ago and we have played two t/t games together since then in which she did not have a problem giving a read on me

Yeah, that's the point. Why does it have nothing to do with that fact? Is it not relevant?

[Oddmerta]

apparently me quoting kza to say "weird champ post" is a scum read but jjj quoting someone to say what they did is >rand mafia isn't

you love to see it

Run me through this interaction

my posts about jjj were quickly met with defense from sloonei saying "that's just proverbial poo flinging" as if to say, it's just a day zero read, why take it seriously?

in the same vein my single catch-up post calling something weird champ doesn't seem to be given the same leeway

pretty annoying if you ask me tbh!

Sloonei is maf trying to make moves, don't worry about it

[Esooa]

I literally said after like 1 post talking to kza that it's not really important

I did almost the exact same thing with my read on Tony. What's your beef?

the problem with spfs read on me has NOTHING to do with the fact she misread me before. That was over a month ago and we have played two t/t games together since then in which she did not have a problem giving a read on me

Yeah, that's the point. Why does it have nothing to do with that fact? Is it not relevant?

my beef is my day zero read is being simultaneously discredited while being given importance to

I don't know how to explain that more

I don't think it has any to do with misreading me because the apprehension, if it existed, would have more strongly existed directly after misreading me, not a month later. It makes no sense to me to misread me, attempt to read me twice after and be correct, then decide you're not good enough at reading me to give a thought

the timeline there is just weird

however I'm not calling jess necessarily scum for it as I did have less content than normal and it may just have to do with how she's feeling about this game

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Sloonei is town.

[Esooa]

it has always been the case I could change my meta to fool Jess if I wanted. so why is that a consideration only not
now and not before?

[Esooa]

only now*

[MacDougall]

Sloonei is town.

If you say so.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

my beef is my day zero read is being simultaneously discredited while being given importance to

I don't know how to explain that more

I believe that you don't know how to explain it more, and that's fine. I still don't understand what you're saying, but I get the impression this entire dialogue has encountered a communication breakdown somewhere. Oh well.

I don't think it has any to do with misreading me because the apprehension, if it existed, would have more strongly existed directly after misreading me, not a month later. It makes no sense to me to misread me, attempt to read me twice after and be correct, then decide you're not good enough at reading me to give a thought

the timeline there is just weird

however I'm not calling jess necessarily scum for it as I did have less content than normal and it may just have to do with how she's feeling about this game

Perhaps I am missing some context. I was under the impression SPF's last game with you was Fallout 2, when she read you incorrectly, and that another recent example of the same mistake exists somewhere on the internet. Is that not the case? I literally don't know.

[Esooa]

my beef is my day zero read is being simultaneously discredited while being given importance to

I don't know how to explain that more

I believe that you don't know how to explain it more, and that's fine. I still don't understand what you're saying, but I get the impression this entire dialogue has encountered a communication breakdown somewhere. Oh well.

I don't think it has any to do with misreading me because the apprehension, if it existed, would have more strongly existed directly after misreading me, not a month later. It makes no sense to me to misread me, attempt to read me twice after and be correct, then decide you're not good enough at reading me to give a thought

the timeline there is just weird

however I'm not calling jess necessarily scum for it as I did have less content than normal and it may just have to do with how she's feeling about this game

Perhaps I am missing some context. I was under the impression SPF's last game with you was Fallout 2, when she read you incorrectly, and that another recent example of the same mistake exists somewhere on the internet. Is that not the case? I literally don't know.

since fallout 2 jess and I have played two t/t games together, which is where I pulled the previous quotes from

[Oddmerta]

Sloonei is town.

Interesting, we shall see how this develops

[AL_sama]

@tutuu is it just me seeing things or you're indeed kinda acting pumped up??