Fargo Mafia [Game Ends]

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I’m not confident about LC. I’m not sure I care. He has a way of discouraging confidence on purpose.

[novaselinenever]

This is a true story. The events depicted took place at The Syndicate Forum in April 2021. At the request of the survivors, the names have been changed. Out of respect for the dead, the rest has been told exactly as it occurred.

And so we come to perhaps the bloodiest chapter in the long and violent history of the Syndicate Forum. And here I'm speaking of Fargo Mafia, 2021, commonly referred to by townspeople as the "Massacre at [redacted]". Readers will note that I have chosen to file this case as a [redacted] crime, even though most of the murders took place in [redacted]. But I believe the key to understanding this complex and nuanced crime is to look at the story about this little boy.

He was born in a field and raised in the woods. And he had nothing. In the winter the boy would freeze and in the summer he would boil. He knew the name of every stinging insect. At night he would look at the lights in the houses and he would want: Why was he outside and they’d be in? Why was he so hungry and they fed? "It should be me", he said. And out of the darkness, the wolves came whispering...

Day 1 begins.
You have 48 hours to decide on an elimination.

[staypositivefriend]

[VOTE: staypositivefriend] aubergine

[tutuu]

Who's your biggest scumread tutuu?

kza

good read tutuu town

tony cute

[tutuu]

Cool flavor i should check it out, nice writing

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: Staypositivefriend] aubergine

[tutuu]

I should be thankful of how privileged i am - i have a roof over my head, i have a heater and blankets thats keeping my warm, i have cosmetic products like toothpaste, i have access to the internet and free time, im in perfect health. In the grand scope of things this is so privileged compared to so many peoples' lives. I take these stuff for granted but all these wonderful stuff ought to be appreciated. I express my gratitude

[tutuu]

[VOTE: superbestfriend] aubergine

[staypositivefriend]

[VOTE: Staypositivefriend] aubergine

Yes

[KZA]

[VOTE: tutuu] aubergine

[Strawhenge]

Wait, was there no Night 0? Or did scum try and fail to kill someone? :o

Or am I getting senile and Night 0s aren't a thing?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Wait, was there no Night 0? Or did scum try and fail to kill someone? :o

Or am I getting senile and Night 0s aren't a thing?

They don't exist. You're confirmed town.

[KZA]

lol sick ez derpclear

[Alison]

[VOTE: Al_sama] aubergine

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Town reads
falcon
Mac
Sloonei
Strawhenge

Semi-town reads
SPF
tutuu
Long Con
fingersplints
Alison*

Defer to others "town read"
Oddmerta

Most conflicted read
KZA

Not town reads
tedxtr
Nanook
Esooa
Dom
Marmot
Tony
JPIC
Michelle
BoKnows
Al_Sama

*This is a new addition, so to expand: whatever Alison's motivations, she is promoting a pretty similar view of the game to my own. It isn't identical, but there is considerable overlap. As long as she is pushing an agreeable view, it is "optimal" to let her do that. That was even true when she was mafia in the Bread game, because her associations with DkKoba were more visible as a result.

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: superbestfriend] aubergine

Why?

[VOTE: Staypositivefriend] aubergine

Yes

Why?

[Strawhenge]

Wait, was there no Night 0? Or did scum try and fail to kill someone? :o

Or am I getting senile and Night 0s aren't a thing?

They don't exist. You're confirmed town.

Haha, cool.

Time has ravaged my longterm memory.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

To be clear, the names are not ordered within tiers in that list.

[staypositivefriend]

Town reads
falcon
Mac
Sloonei
Strawhenge

Semi-town reads
SPF
tutuu
Long Con
fingersplints
Alison*

Defer to others "town read"
Oddmerta

Most conflicted read
KZA

Not town reads
tedxtr
Nanook
Esooa
Dom
Marmot
Tony
JPIC
Michelle
BoKnows
Al_Sama

*This is a new addition, so to expand: whatever Alison's motivations, she is promoting a pretty similar view of the game to my own. It isn't identical, but there is considerable overlap. As long as she is pushing an agreeable view, it is "optimal" to let her do that. That was even true when she was mafia in the Bread game, because her associations with DkKoba were more visible as a result.

would you mind talking about mac for a moment? i struggle to see any of the stuff he's posted as being particularly alignment indicative for him

[staypositivefriend]

[VOTE: superbestfriend] aubergine

Why?

[VOTE: Staypositivefriend] aubergine

Yes

Why?

i found your vote amusing. i have no idea if it's serious or not

[JaggedJimmyJay]

would you mind talking about mac for a moment? i struggle to see any of the stuff he's posted as being particularly alignment indicative for him

This will be difficult to qualify in a way that is convincing, because it is a highly contextual read given the atmosphere of the thread during his first appearance. He made one initial read (that falcon is town), and did not try to put forth anything more than that, at least not right away. It was a read that mirrored my own in the moment (and it preceded the thread consensus on falcon that has come since; indeed I think Mac helped to motivate that consensus). His reasoning for that read was appropriate for me. I also appreciate his initial handling of JPIC -- some manner of suspicion, but not the sort that he actually felt like bringing up until someone else did first. I felt the same way. I had a tiny ping of suspicion to JPIC for his entry to the game and didn't bother talking about it because it inspired little-to-nothing in me. Mac's comments mirror that. Then overall his reads (1) are (2) agreeable (3) enough (4).

[staypositivefriend]

i think that jagged, sloonei, strawhenge, tutuu, falcon are all town (with tutuu being the least confident name in that list)

i think that marmot, oddmerta, JPIC, AL_sama, alison is a pool with at ~least~ one wolf, but probably multiple

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

[fingersplints]

I read JJJ’s “not town reads” as “next town reads” and thought how many tiers of town are there on this list then I saw some of the names on it and double checked then realised my mistake

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I read JJJ’s “not town reads” as “next town reads” and thought how many tiers of town are there on this list then I saw some of the names on it and double checked then realised my mistake

No amount of town reads is too many based on our last game together.

[MacDougall]

Town reads
falcon
Mac
Sloonei
Strawhenge

Semi-town reads
SPF
tutuu
Long Con
fingersplints
Alison*

Defer to others "town read"
Oddmerta

Most conflicted read
KZA

Not town reads
tedxtr
Nanook
Esooa
Dom
Marmot
Tony
JPIC
Michelle
BoKnows
Al_Sama

*This is a new addition, so to expand: whatever Alison's motivations, she is promoting a pretty similar view of the game to my own. It isn't identical, but there is considerable overlap. As long as she is pushing an agreeable view, it is "optimal" to let her do that. That was even true when she was mafia in the Bread game, because her associations with DkKoba were more visible as a result.

would you mind talking about mac for a moment? i struggle to see any of the stuff he's posted as being particularly alignment indicative for him

Troubling

[fingersplints]

That was hopefully a once in a lifetime experience. My mafia paranoia has tripled as a result

[staypositivefriend]

would you mind talking about mac for a moment? i struggle to see any of the stuff he's posted as being particularly alignment indicative for him

This will be difficult to qualify in a way that is convincing, because it is a highly contextual read given the atmosphere of the thread during his first appearance. He made one initial read (that falcon is town), and did not try to put forth anything more than that, at least not right away. It was a read that mirrored my own in the moment (and it preceded the thread consensus on falcon that has come since; indeed I think Mac helped to motivate that consensus). His reasoning for that read was appropriate for me. I also appreciate his initial handling of JPIC -- some manner of suspicion, but not the sort that he actually felt like bringing up until someone else did first. I felt the same way. I had a tiny ping of suspicion to JPIC for his entry to the game and didn't bother talking about it because it inspired little-to-nothing in me. Mac's comments mirror that. Then overall his reads (1) are (2) agreeable (3) enough (4).

okay thanks, i can vibe w/it for now

[staypositivefriend]

Town reads
falcon
Mac
Sloonei
Strawhenge

Semi-town reads
SPF
tutuu
Long Con
fingersplints
Alison*

Defer to others "town read"
Oddmerta

Most conflicted read
KZA

Not town reads
tedxtr
Nanook
Esooa
Dom
Marmot
Tony
JPIC
Michelle
BoKnows
Al_Sama

*This is a new addition, so to expand: whatever Alison's motivations, she is promoting a pretty similar view of the game to my own. It isn't identical, but there is considerable overlap. As long as she is pushing an agreeable view, it is "optimal" to let her do that. That was even true when she was mafia in the Bread game, because her associations with DkKoba were more visible as a result.

would you mind talking about mac for a moment? i struggle to see any of the stuff he's posted as being particularly alignment indicative for him

Troubling

i don't have a baseline for what your wolfgame is typically like

[Alison]

I am interested in investigating the following people more:
- Marmot
- SPF
- Dom
- Long Con
- Fingersplints

[KZA]

I am interested in investigating the following people more:
- Marmot
- SPF
- Dom
- Long Con
- Fingersplints

what about @Michelle

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: superbestfriend] aubergine

Why?

[VOTE: Staypositivefriend] aubergine

Yes

Why?

i found your vote amusing. i have no idea if it's serious or not

Why the self vote?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@KZA why tutuu

[staypositivefriend]

I am interested in investigating the following people more:
- Marmot
- SPF
- Dom
- Long Con
- Fingersplints

why is dom on that list when he hasn't posted?

[KZA]

@KZA why tutuu

I'm finding her exceedingly fake

just a hunch that's probably easier for me to perceive because she's scumreading me

[staypositivefriend]

[VOTE: superbestfriend] aubergine

Why?

[VOTE: Staypositivefriend] aubergine

Yes

Why?

i found your vote amusing. i have no idea if it's serious or not

Why the self vote?

i made a spur-of-the-moment decision to selfvote when i saw that d1 started, because i thought that it would be funny

what is your read on me?

[MacDougall]

[VOTE: kza] aubergine

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@KZA why tutuu

I'm finding her exceedingly fake

just a hunch that's probably easier for me to perceive because she's scumreading me

Does her suspicion of you also strike you as fake?

[Sloonei]

[VOTE: superbestfriend] aubergine

Why?

[VOTE: Staypositivefriend] aubergine

Yes

Why?

i found your vote amusing. i have no idea if it's serious or not

Why the self vote?

i made a spur-of-the-moment decision to selfvote when i saw that d1 started, because i thought that it would be funny

what is your read on me?

You also joked about being mafia earlier. So that’s two times you’ve made jokes along the lines of you not being town. Why?

[KZA]

@KZA why tutuu

I'm finding her exceedingly fake

just a hunch that's probably easier for me to perceive because she's scumreading me

Does her suspicion of you also strike you as fake?

Yes. What do you think of her reasons?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

@KZA why tutuu

I'm finding her exceedingly fake

just a hunch that's probably easier for me to perceive because she's scumreading me

Does her suspicion of you also strike you as fake?

Yes. What do you think of her reasons?

I don't know what they are. I just took a look. @tutuu, you said earlier in Day 0 that you felt KZA was "elaborating too much". Is that still your gripe, or is there something more?

[KZA]

i just remembered kza explaining that he's omgussy mann why do u explainn ur readsss that scummyyy dudeeeee only scum explain their reads

falcon
jay
mac
alison
esooa

---

kza

like wtf is this post

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I'd appreciate if anyone that views KZA as a high-level suspect could talk to me about why. @MacDougall you're one. @TonyStarkPrime you implied something like that.

[staypositivefriend]

[VOTE: superbestfriend] aubergine

Why?

[VOTE: Staypositivefriend] aubergine

Yes

Why?

i found your vote amusing. i have no idea if it's serious or not

Why the self vote?

i made a spur-of-the-moment decision to selfvote when i saw that d1 started, because i thought that it would be funny

what is your read on me?

You also joked about being mafia earlier. So that’s two times you’ve made jokes along the lines of you not being town. Why?

because i am mafia, and this is my way of offsetting my guilty consicence

[KZA]

SPF is lost wolf got it

[staypositivefriend]

i will say that i'm a little bit confused by sloonei's line of questioning toward me - he saw me wolfclaim multiple times in our experiences in champs, so i'm unsure what alignment indicative information he's hoping to get out of asking me why i wolfclaimed

i dont find it suspicious, just confusing

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Anyone who's bored, click on this BoKnows ISO, do a CTRL+F for "tutuu", and tell me why I shouldn't murder this poor gif-abusing lad.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

People with lots of posts (≥30) that I don't overtly town read:

Alison
Esooa
Tony
JPIC
Nanook
Oddmerta

Ideally I will make these special focuses to develop later tonight.

Sounds like a you problem tbh cause I'm townie as hell

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Sounds like a you problem tbh cause I'm townie as hell

It's always a you problem, but that's fine.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Both claiming mafia and self-voting have been typical of SPF in our games together. Neither means anything to me.