Beelzebub The Benign scum win

[Gavial]

Crocodilia is an order of mostly large, predatory, semiaquatic reptiles, known as crocodilians. They first appeared 95 million years ago in the Late Cretaceous period and are the closest living relatives of birds, as the two groups are the only known survivors of the Archosauria.

[Gavial]

Also pasted from Google

[BoKnows]

Archosauria. epic name

[Marmot]

@Alison I'll take a tarot read if you wanna do one

Punish the Fool?

[Marmot]

In other news, this appears to not be the long-awaited game where I see a scum seanzie. I'm ok with this.

[Gavial]

In other news, this appears to not be the long-awaited game where I see a scum seanzie. I'm ok with this.

Elaborate on your SR?

[Marmot]

Samu / falcon looks like w / w
Terrible reaponses both ways

So you think that two mafia members decided to have a go at each other and failed miserably?

[Marmot]

In other news, this appears to not be the long-awaited game where I see a scum seanzie. I'm ok with this.

Elaborate on your SR?

I TR sean

[Gavial]

Samu / falcon looks like w / w
Terrible reaponses both ways

So you think that two mafia members decided to have a go at each other and failed miserably?

It’s a possible, remember my last scum game with Tony?

[Gavial]

Even a bit of Jack.

[Gavial]

In other news, this appears to not be the long-awaited game where I see a scum seanzie. I'm ok with this.

Elaborate on your SR?

I TR sean

Oh shit I read that wrong.
My bad.

[Marmot]

Samu / falcon looks like w / w
Terrible reaponses both ways

So you think that two mafia members decided to have a go at each other and failed miserably?

It’s a possible, remember my last scum game with Tony?

I do very much remember, but that doesn't make it a common nor easy occurrence.

[Gavial]

Samu / falcon looks like w / w
Terrible reaponses both ways

So you think that two mafia members decided to have a go at each other and failed miserably?

It’s a possible, remember my last scum game with Tony?

I do very much remember, but that doesn't make it a common nor easy occurrence.

It also doesn’t mean it should be ruled out.
It should be considered NAI.
Simple as that!

[Marmot]

Samu / falcon looks like w / w
Terrible reaponses both ways

So you think that two mafia members decided to have a go at each other and failed miserably?

It’s a possible, remember my last scum game with Tony?

I do very much remember, but that doesn't make it a common nor easy occurrence.

It also doesn’t mean it should be ruled out.
It should be considered NAI.
Simple as that!

I disagree, to some extent.
My point is that it is something that rarely happens, thus I'm willing to accept for now that it's not what's happening here, because statistically, it's a safe assumption.
Yes it can happen, it just probably wouldn't.


Also, technically anything that is said in a mafia game could have been said as either alignment, but it's not all NAI.

[hollowkatt]

ok thanks. I can see how he gets to "one of falcon, seanzie, samusamu is a wolf". Seems like that's a fairly reasonable stance to take. Not thrilled with his "don't want to hit wrong" take tho, it's still early.
His second post you quote is meh to me. Can grok why you don't like it.
Third post is a throw-away in my book.

I guess I get what concerns you, so thanks, I appreciate it.

Yeah, but here's the thing...he's called out D1 voting and early play already as not being something to build legit reads on, right?


So why is he taking these early interactions so seriously himself and framing it "1 of these 3 is Maf"? Seems contradictory to his earlier stance, no?


His "don't wanna hit wrong" is total bullshit, that is not a townie mindset at all.


Pffft, real town obviously never wanna hit wrong, but its D1! Nobody is close to getting hit yet, and even if we were...its D1, hitting wrong happens.


He def seems a flame fanner fo sho.

fuck it I'm in [VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

[Marmot]

Alison should be turbo'd for not putting all her tarot pictures in spoilers and thus diluting our precious game thread real estate.

[hollowkatt]

If this is scum theatre this is the best I’ve ever seen.

Spoiler: show

That hasn’t been done by me.

I find this hard to believe. I don't think there was anything special about Marmot's interaction with me. I think you are just pulling up random posts and slapping some semi-defensible comment on them to look solvey.

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

funny, I was gonna call him town lol

I think Samusamu is townie in ways that make him appear to be an easy push for mafia. I call this the Michelle-Timsup2nothin archetype. Of the people pushing him I find falcon's push most townie because it seems motivated by a mixture of paranoia and townie OMGUS. Urist and Gavial piling on are things that I am not a fan of at all.

not sure I'd lump Tim into that archetype. He's way more feisty than Michelle. Maybe call it the Michelle-Wisdom archetype and I'm in.
yes that means I think samusamu might be town. I'm not getting the weirdness from that conversation others are

What makes you TR me?
Also, By “weirdness” I’m assuming your not seeing the lack of genuineness that I see.
Alright, then do you just think Samu might be town for the same reason Alison has given “Easy ML” or do you have your own take regarding Samu?

I like your tone. Sure, wolves can fake tone, you might even be good at that I dunno, but I like it. I also like the way you're approaching things and leaving your thoughts on the table.

By weirdness I mean the clustery conversation he was a part of. I didn't read him as coming off weird or disingenuous.
my samu take is that I don't think he's doing/saying wolfy things. Has nothing to do with him being ML bait like Alison would say.

So wouldn’t Samu just be a Null/Null Town for you rather then an actual TR/TL.

I put in bold the part you appear to have missed

I think Samusamu is townie in ways that make him appear to be an easy push for mafia. I call this the Michelle-Timsup2nothin archetype. Of the people pushing him I find falcon's push most townie because it seems motivated by a mixture of paranoia and townie OMGUS. Urist and Gavial piling on are things that I am not a fan of at all.

not sure I'd lump Tim into that archetype. He's way more feisty than Michelle. Maybe call it the Michelle-Wisdom archetype and I'm in.
yes that means I think samusamu might be town. I'm not getting the weirdness from that conversation others are

[hollowkatt]

Idk I'm just shocked someone is already talking w/w about two people having a quick interaction.

I’m just saying don’t rule it out.
The person who said exact they think it’s w/w was Urist.
But I suppose I can’t blame yeah as you could have missed that post considering Urist only has a grand total of 2 posts.

odds on urist wolf if either of those two flip town?

[TonyStarkPrime]

so who are wolves

[Marmot]

I’m honestly still trying to comprehend what the first paragraph says, honestly this seems very poorly writen.
Either this guy has problems typing what they say or they are just not being genuine here.
Because this legit looks like it was a thrown together response with no heart given into it.
While I understand what is being said and know a town can think like this, I just can’t comprehend why they wrote it like this.

I believe English is not Samu's primary language.

[hollowkatt]

I was gonna say there could be no wolves at all and they are just lying in the back but then I realize that TSP/Urist/Doom/Jessie as the team is kinda dumb.

why's that?

like say you've got a chunk of townies having at it with each other, why step in the middle of that? Why not rumble in later and go "eh, this all looks dumb/theater/performative" and push based on that?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Samu / falcon looks like w / w
Terrible reaponses both ways

So you think that two mafia members decided to have a go at each other and failed miserably?

It’s a possible, remember my last scum game with Tony?

I do very much remember, but that doesn't make it a common nor easy occurrence.

tbh that one was very obviously w/w

[TonyStarkPrime]

hk your pfp is my phone background for approximately 16 weeks every year

[hollowkatt]

so who are wolves

ur face

[TonyStarkPrime]

how do i make a deal with dunia

[hollowkatt]

hk your pfp is my phone background for approximately 16 weeks every year

attention everyone: TSP gets a free pass today

[hollowkatt]

how do i make a deal with dunia

[Marmot]

Lions' fans need all the help they can get.

[TonyStarkPrime]

there's a moth on my ceiling. if I sleep it may fly into my mouth.

[TonyStarkPrime]

wanna figure out how to make it so dunia wins alone

[Marmot]

how do i make a deal with dunia

what kind of cookies do you like?

[falcon45ca]

I didn’t join this game to crack the Croc I join this game to actually participate and this is how I do it.

Participate and hunt as thou will.


Don't begrudge others for doing the same tho

[TonyStarkPrime]

snickerdoodle

[TonyStarkPrime]

mmm snickerdoodles

[Marmot]

Mmmmmm, I love me some snickerdoodles

[Marmot]

@Gavial could you like a recent town game from you? I have no meta on that front.

[Marmot]

EBWOP: could you link a recent town game

[Marmot]

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME


Alison - posts
Boknows - posts
Doom - posts
Esooa - posts
Falcon - posts
Gavial - posts
Hollowkatt - posts
JessieKruger - posts
Long Con - posts
Marmot - posts
Samusamu - posts
Seanzie - posts
Tsp - posts
Urist - posts

[Gavial]

Samu / falcon looks like w / w
Terrible reaponses both ways

So you think that two mafia members decided to have a go at each other and failed miserably?

It’s a possible, remember my last scum game with Tony?

I do very much remember, but that doesn't make it a common nor easy occurrence.

It also doesn’t mean it should be ruled out.
It should be considered NAI.
Simple as that!

I disagree, to some extent.
My point is that it is something that rarely happens, thus I'm willing to accept for now that it's not what's happening here, because statistically, it's a safe assumption.
Yes it can happen, it just probably wouldn't.


Also, technically anything that is said in a mafia game could have been said as either alignment, but it's not all NAI.

Can’t remember the interaction but I believed that that one has a higher chance to not be W/W then the Falcon/Samu one.
It’s not the major interaction that makes things not W/W that is actually the most common W/W it’s more like those small ones that are just real uncaring and too uncaring to be between scum.

[Gavial]

I think I’m like half asleep cause I don’t even understand what I just wrote but basically,
W/W - Major Interactions
Not W/W - Uncaring Basic Interactions

This is usually how it works.

[Long Con]

I think I’m like half asleep cause I don’t even understand what I just wrote but basically,
W/W - Major Interactions
Not W/W - Uncaring Basic Interactions

This is usually how it works.

How what works again?

[Long Con]

I think I’m like half asleep cause I don’t even understand what I just wrote but basically,
W/W - Major Interactions
Not W/W - Uncaring Basic Interactions

This is usually how it works.

How what works again?

[Gavial]

ok thanks. I can see how he gets to "one of falcon, seanzie, samusamu is a wolf". Seems like that's a fairly reasonable stance to take. Not thrilled with his "don't want to hit wrong" take tho, it's still early.
His second post you quote is meh to me. Can grok why you don't like it.
Third post is a throw-away in my book.

I guess I get what concerns you, so thanks, I appreciate it.

Yeah, but here's the thing...he's called out D1 voting and early play already as not being something to build legit reads on, right?


So why is he taking these early interactions so seriously himself and framing it "1 of these 3 is Maf"? Seems contradictory to his earlier stance, no?


His "don't wanna hit wrong" is total bullshit, that is not a townie mindset at all.


Pffft, real town obviously never wanna hit wrong, but its D1! Nobody is close to getting hit yet, and even if we were...its D1, hitting wrong happens.


He def seems a flame fanner fo sho.

fuck it I'm in [VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

I don’t know if you noticed but like Samu/Falcon Collapses onto me.
From my last game with Falcon this doesn’t feel like town him at all.
I never called out voting, that was Falcon.
I called out Samu’s post regarding Falcon’s first post.
The reason I said at least 1 of 3 is Mafia is because I think it being a purely Townie interaction is very very unlikely.
Do you want to hit wrong? If a townies mindset is to not care then they aren’t real good townies tbh.
It may be Day 1 but I’d like to have a Day 1 Scum Yeet over an ML.
I Def seem like one for sho? What you sho for Samu?

[Gavial]

Sorry, I’m using your post to respond to Falcon.

[Gavial]

Hollow my top TR unless you count my Mech one on Esooa.
Also, funny things is. The people that are pushing me aren’t even bothering to vote me but my Top Town is convinced by them and votes me.
Lol ok.

[Gavial]

I think I’m like half asleep cause I don’t even understand what I just wrote but basically,
W/W - Major Interactions
Not W/W - Uncaring Basic Interactions

This is usually how it works.

How what works again?

Scum theatre and Non Scum Theatre in an FM Game.

[Gavial]

Wait no more like Scum Convo, not entirely theatre but I guess it depends what you consider Scum Theatre to be.

[Long Con]

But major interactions happen all the time when it's not two scum performing theatre.

[Marmot]

Maybe it's a culture thing? I generally expect wolves to have very basic interactions with each other, not major disagreements

[Gavial]

But major interactions happen all the time when it's not two scum performing theatre.

They also happen to be TvT most of the time.