Beelzebub The Benign scum win

[Gavial]

Gavial doing good work. I like them

Yo talk to me about one of Samu/Falcon/DK/Sean/Jessie

Give me a brief read and reasoning towards one of them.

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Why are you voting Alison?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Lions' fans need all the help they can get.

Goff lol.

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[Gavial]

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Why are you voting Alison?

Maybe it has something to do with their push on me and defence on both Samu and Falcon.
But an elaboration would be necessary I’d agree.

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Why are you voting Alison?

Maybe it has something to do with their push on me and defence on both Samu and Falcon.
But an elaboration would be necessary I’d agree.

Maybe you should let Urist speak for themselves.

[Long Con]

Hey Gavial, what does 'PL' stand for?

[DaughterOfOmega]

Gavial doing good work. I like them

Yo talk to me about one of Samu/Falcon/DK/Sean/Jessie

Give me a brief read and reasoning towards one of them.

I am more curious as to why you listed these players

[Urist]

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Why are you voting Alison?

I can't speak for Urist but I imagine it is mostly due to the defense of Samu as an easy push without giving any reasons for why Samu might be town, as well as Alison's push on Gharial which is just taking one thing he said and jumping on it, as opposed to looking at his work as a whole.
Again I won't pretend to know what is going on in Urist's head but I think that's a solid guess considering Alison hasn't really made any other AI posts this game.

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Why are you voting Alison?

I can't speak for Urist but I imagine it is mostly due to the defense of Samu as an easy push without giving any reasons for why Samu might be town, as well as Alison's push on Gharial which is just taking one thing he said and jumping on it, as opposed to looking at his work as a whole.
Again I won't pretend to know what is going on in Urist's head but I think that's a solid guess considering Alison hasn't really made any other AI posts this game.

Have you been quirked into speaking in 3rd person or something?

So is your working theory that scum!Allison is trying to defend scum!Samu by making Samu out as LHF?

[Gavial]

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Why are you voting Alison?

Maybe it has something to do with their push on me and defence on both Samu and Falcon.
But an elaboration would be necessary I’d agree.

Maybe you should let Urist speak for themselves.

That’s what I’m doing but I’m just also stating what I think.

[Gavial]

Hey Gavial, what does 'PL' stand for?

Policy Elimination

[Gavial]

Gavial doing good work. I like them

Yo talk to me about one of Samu/Falcon/DK/Sean/Jessie

Give me a brief read and reasoning towards one of them.

I am more curious as to why you listed these players

I’ll explain that, then you choose one of em MK?

Samu/Falcon should be obvious enough.
DK due to me getting scum vibes from them and their butt in on the convo.
Sean because he was the first to defend.
Jessie because I wanted to put a zero poster as an option and see what happens.

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Why are you voting Alison?

Maybe it has something to do with their push on me and defence on both Samu and Falcon.
But an elaboration would be necessary I’d agree.

Maybe you should let Urist speak for themselves.

That’s what I’m doing but I’m just also stating what I think.

The issue with that is that Urist just gave essentially the same answer you did, and now I don't know if that is Urist's thinking, or if Urist read your post and just copied your thinking.

[Gavial]

Honestly I just wanna see more from Alison.
By more I mean Responses from questions directed at Alison.
I know I gave a couple to them and they haven’t responded yet so I await a response before making any decisions

[Gavial]

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Why are you voting Alison?

Maybe it has something to do with their push on me and defence on both Samu and Falcon.
But an elaboration would be necessary I’d agree.

Maybe you should let Urist speak for themselves.

That’s what I’m doing but I’m just also stating what I think.

The issue with that is that Urist just gave essentially the same answer you did, and now I don't know if that is Urist's thinking, or if Urist read your post and just copied your thinking.

Well what else would someone SR Alison for?
Tarot Cards?
Being named “Alison”?

[BoKnows]

beezlebub beezlebub give me the information I desire

[BoKnows]

Gavial doing good work. I like them

Yo talk to me about one of Samu/Falcon/DK/Sean/Jessie

Give me a brief read and reasoning towards one of them.

I am more curious as to why you listed these players

I’ll explain that, then you choose one of em MK?

Samu/Falcon should be obvious enough.
DK due to me getting scum vibes from them and their butt in on the convo.
Sean because he was the first to defend.
Jessie because I wanted to put a zero poster as an option and see what happens.

Am I DK?

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Why are you voting Alison?

Maybe it has something to do with their push on me and defence on both Samu and Falcon.
But an elaboration would be necessary I’d agree.

Maybe you should let Urist speak for themselves.

That’s what I’m doing but I’m just also stating what I think.

The issue with that is that Urist just gave essentially the same answer you did, and now I don't know if that is Urist's thinking, or if Urist read your post and just copied your thinking.

Well what else would someone SR Alison for?
Tarot Cards?
Being named “Alison”?

Is this serious? Like... I asked Urist a question to develop my read on Urist. You butting in prevented me from doing that. Who knows what he would have said if you didn't butt in first. Maybe he would have given the same answer, maybe he would have fumbled for a good answer, maybe he wouldn't have answered at all. We'll never know now. You are free to share your thoughts, but I kindly ask that you don't answer questions that I've directed at someone for them. Let them explain themselves.

[falcon45ca]

I am slow moving today. I took too much drugs and alcohol with too little sleep. It was worth it tho.



This also could be me

[BoKnows]

:micdrop:

[Gavial]

Gavial doing good work. I like them

Yo talk to me about one of Samu/Falcon/DK/Sean/Jessie

Give me a brief read and reasoning towards one of them.

I am more curious as to why you listed these players

I’ll explain that, then you choose one of em MK?

Samu/Falcon should be obvious enough.
DK due to me getting scum vibes from them and their butt in on the convo.
Sean because he was the first to defend.
Jessie because I wanted to put a zero poster as an option and see what happens.

Am I DK?

Yeah my bad I meant BK

[BoKnows]

Sorry for butting into your convo and trying to add my 2 cents

[Gavial]

Sorry for butting into your convo and trying to add my 2 cents

No it’s not you doing it, it’s how you did it.

[Seanzie]

@Gavial, what are your thoughts on Urist right now?

[BoKnows]

Sorry for butting into your convo and trying to add my 2 cents

No it’s not you doing it, it’s how you did it.

Okay. I'll have to go back and see what I did.

[DaughterOfOmega]

Gavial doing good work. I like them

Yo talk to me about one of Samu/Falcon/DK/Sean/Jessie

Give me a brief read and reasoning towards one of them.

I am more curious as to why you listed these players

I’ll explain that, then you choose one of em MK?

Samu/Falcon should be obvious enough.
DK due to me getting scum vibes from them and their butt in on the convo.
Sean because he was the first to defend.
Jessie because I wanted to put a zero poster as an option and see what happens.

I think Gavial saying all of this is a lie. The reason is that I severely doubt Gavial thought all of this in the short time he took to send me this list of players.

Like saying "Oh I picked jessie because I took a second to look at the posting numbers of all players and decided to choose a zero poster in the list to also ask your read of them just to see what happens."

I also doubt he thought of these reasons when choosing the other 5, I assume this list was really chosen at random, and Gavial spending time to actually come up with reasons makes like 90% mafia.

[Urist]

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Why are you voting Alison?

I can't speak for Urist but I imagine it is mostly due to the defense of Samu as an easy push without giving any reasons for why Samu might be town, as well as Alison's push on Gharial which is just taking one thing he said and jumping on it, as opposed to looking at his work as a whole.
Again I won't pretend to know what is going on in Urist's head but I think that's a solid guess considering Alison hasn't really made any other AI posts this game.

Have you been quirked into speaking in 3rd person or something?

So is your working theory that scum!Allison is trying to defend scum!Samu by making Samu out as LHF?

I think Alison is defending Samu for bad reasons. Given that there were only 2 votes on Samu at the time I feel like she wouldn't be jumping in to defend a buddy at that point. Prob not w/w.

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Why are you voting Alison?

Maybe it has something to do with their push on me and defence on both Samu and Falcon.
But an elaboration would be necessary I’d agree.

Maybe you should let Urist speak for themselves.

That’s what I’m doing but I’m just also stating what I think.

The issue with that is that Urist just gave essentially the same answer you did, and now I don't know if that is Urist's thinking, or if Urist read your post and just copied your thinking.

If I were Urist I would again point out that Alison has not made very many on-topic posts. And having played with Urist before, I can tell you that he would not randomly vote for someone without having a reason in mind, regardless of his alignment.

[Seanzie]

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Why are you voting Alison?

I can't speak for Urist but I imagine it is mostly due to the defense of Samu as an easy push without giving any reasons for why Samu might be town, as well as Alison's push on Gharial which is just taking one thing he said and jumping on it, as opposed to looking at his work as a whole.
Again I won't pretend to know what is going on in Urist's head but I think that's a solid guess considering Alison hasn't really made any other AI posts this game.

Have you been quirked into speaking in 3rd person or something?

So is your working theory that scum!Allison is trying to defend scum!Samu by making Samu out as LHF?

I think Alison is defending Samu for bad reasons. Given that there were only 2 votes on Samu at the time I feel like she wouldn't be jumping in to defend a buddy at that point. Prob not w/w.

[VOTE: Alison] aubergine

Why are you voting Alison?

Maybe it has something to do with their push on me and defence on both Samu and Falcon.
But an elaboration would be necessary I’d agree.

Maybe you should let Urist speak for themselves.

That’s what I’m doing but I’m just also stating what I think.

The issue with that is that Urist just gave essentially the same answer you did, and now I don't know if that is Urist's thinking, or if Urist read your post and just copied your thinking.

If I were Urist I would again point out that Alison has not made very many on-topic posts. And having played with Urist before, I can tell you that he would not randomly vote for someone without having a reason in mind, regardless of his alignment.

If Alison/Samu are not w/w, what changed regarding your read of Samu?

[Gavial]

Gavial doing good work. I like them

Yo talk to me about one of Samu/Falcon/DK/Sean/Jessie

Give me a brief read and reasoning towards one of them.

I am more curious as to why you listed these players

I’ll explain that, then you choose one of em MK?

Samu/Falcon should be obvious enough.
DK due to me getting scum vibes from them and their butt in on the convo.
Sean because he was the first to defend.
Jessie because I wanted to put a zero poster as an option and see what happens.

I think Gavial saying all of this is a lie. The reason is that I severely doubt Gavial thought all of this in the short time he took to send me this list of players.

Like saying "Oh I picked jessie because I took a second to look at the posting numbers of all players and decided to choose a zero poster in the list to also ask your read of them just to see what happens."

I also doubt he thought of these reasons when choosing the other 5, I assume this list was really chosen at random, and Gavial spending time to actually come up with reasons makes like 90% mafia.

It isn’t hard to keep track of players I’m familiar with.
It’s also not hard to know someone hasn’t spoken yet.
It’s called reading.
Before you were like saying how you like my content and now your saying I’m 90% mafia and refusing to contribute something like I’m asking you to?

Sigh.

[Gavial]

Yep the only ones I can trust RN is like LC/Hollowkat/Marmot/Esooa and maybe Urist.

[DaughterOfOmega]

Yep the only ones I can trust RN is like LC/Hollowkat/Marmot/Esooa and maybe Urist.

"I can only trust 5 out of 14 players on day one WOE IS ME"

How is this real.

[Gavial]

Fun fact.
At least 1 Wolf said he didn’t like me/thinks I’m a lie.
Also, Despite everyone saying that the only players who have actually bothered to vote me is Hollowkat, Samu and Myself as a placeholder.
Hollowkat only voted me from a reasoning Falcon gave yet Falcon isn’t voting me.

[Gavial]

Yep the only ones I can trust RN is like LC/Hollowkat/Marmot/Esooa and maybe Urist.

"I can only trust 5 out of 14 players on day one WOE IS ME"

How is this real.

Because like,
You/Alison/Samu/Falcon/BK aren’t really given me a reason to trust you.
Sean I’m not really sure on and need more from.
That zero poster hasn’t posted.
I don’t remember much from Tony.

[BoKnows]

What has Marmot done to gain your trust? @Gavial

[Gavial]

Like technically you all have enough to hammer me but I don’t think you all will because I just don’t believe wolves would go to that length?
Like there’s at least 1 to 2 Wolves within the ones who have accused me.
We got, Falcon/Samu/Doom/Alison/BK
I’m not sure about Sean I’d have to take a relook at that.

[BoKnows]

Like technically you all have enough to hammer me but I don’t think you all will because I just don’t believe wolves would go to that length?
Like there’s at least 1 to 2 Wolves within the ones who have accused me.
We got, Falcon/Samu/Doom/Alison/BK
I’m not sure about Sean I’d have to take a relook at that.

So we're wolves because we don't want to hammer you and prematurely end D1?

[Gavial]

What has Marmot done to gain your trust? @Gavial

I genuinely believe his thoughts regarding Falcon/Samu are genuine. Wrong way of thinking (at least from my perspective) but genuine.

[Gavial]

Like technically you all have enough to hammer me but I don’t think you all will because I just don’t believe wolves would go to that length?
Like there’s at least 1 to 2 Wolves within the ones who have accused me.
We got, Falcon/Samu/Doom/Alison/BK
I’m not sure about Sean I’d have to take a relook at that.

So we're wolves because we don't want to hammer you and prematurely end D1?

Nope.
I’m saying at least 1 but likely 2 of you are because this is never a pure accusation towards me.
There’s never not a scum smacking me here.

[BoKnows]

Like technically you all have enough to hammer me but I don’t think you all will because I just don’t believe wolves would go to that length?
Like there’s at least 1 to 2 Wolves within the ones who have accused me.
We got, Falcon/Samu/Doom/Alison/BK
I’m not sure about Sean I’d have to take a relook at that.

So we're wolves because we don't want to hammer you and prematurely end D1?

Nope.
I’m saying at least 1 but likely 2 of you are because this is never a pure accusation towards me.
There’s never not a scum smacking me here.

well yeah

[Gavial]

I’ve played Mafia for roughly 4 Years.
I know where scum lay.

[Gavial]

Like technically you all have enough to hammer me but I don’t think you all will because I just don’t believe wolves would go to that length?
Like there’s at least 1 to 2 Wolves within the ones who have accused me.
We got, Falcon/Samu/Doom/Alison/BK
I’m not sure about Sean I’d have to take a relook at that.

So we're wolves because we don't want to hammer you and prematurely end D1?

Nope.
I’m saying at least 1 but likely 2 of you are because this is never a pure accusation towards me.
There’s never not a scum smacking me here.

well yeah

WDYM well yeah?
You think like I did?
Where?
You want to grab my opinion you can elaborate on it with your own.
Whom you think it is?
Do you not care that at least 1 of the 4 with you are scum?

[Gavial]

Also FYI I SR Doom a little bit more then Sean due to refusal to contribute what I requested.

[Gavial]

But more then Samu*

[Gavial]

*bit more


Fuck I’m brain dead!

[Urist]

Why are you voting Alison?

Maybe it has something to do with their push on me and defence on both Samu and Falcon.
But an elaboration would be necessary I’d agree.

Maybe you should let Urist speak for themselves.

That’s what I’m doing but I’m just also stating what I think.

The issue with that is that Urist just gave essentially the same answer you did, and now I don't know if that is Urist's thinking, or if Urist read your post and just copied your thinking.

Well what else would someone SR Alison for?
Tarot Cards?
Being named “Alison”?

Is this serious? Like... I asked Urist a question to develop my read on Urist. You butting in prevented me from doing that. Who knows what he would have said if you didn't butt in first. Maybe he would have given the same answer, maybe he would have fumbled for a good answer, maybe he wouldn't have answered at all. We'll never know now. You are free to share your thoughts, but I kindly ask that you don't answer questions that I've directed at someone for them. Let them explain themselves.

It was literally the only possible answer. Relax a little bit.

[Gavial]

Maybe it has something to do with their push on me and defence on both Samu and Falcon.
But an elaboration would be necessary I’d agree.

Maybe you should let Urist speak for themselves.

That’s what I’m doing but I’m just also stating what I think.

The issue with that is that Urist just gave essentially the same answer you did, and now I don't know if that is Urist's thinking, or if Urist read your post and just copied your thinking.

Well what else would someone SR Alison for?
Tarot Cards?
Being named “Alison”?

Is this serious? Like... I asked Urist a question to develop my read on Urist. You butting in prevented me from doing that. Who knows what he would have said if you didn't butt in first. Maybe he would have given the same answer, maybe he would have fumbled for a good answer, maybe he wouldn't have answered at all. We'll never know now. You are free to share your thoughts, but I kindly ask that you don't answer questions that I've directed at someone for them. Let them explain themselves.

It was literally the only possible answer. Relax a little bit.

He doesn’t see it that way from what I’ve picked up.

[Gavial]

I wanna just point something out and then someone tell me if they think this is “just fine” or not MK.

Samu and Falcon Clash in an intense Convo
Alison points at me
Somewhere in there I believe DOOM voted Samu, I’m not entirely sure where.
Falcon points at me and goes into detail but still doesn’t vote.
Falcon convinced my top TR to vote me.
Samu then votes me.
DOOM says they like my content
DOOM then points at me and calls me fake but doesn’t vote me.

[Gavial]

I’ll also had BK’s point at me in there as well

[Gavial]

If someone says that can all be purely town.
I question the intellect of people these days.

[Gavial]

Like no one can truly convincly believe it.