Beelzebub The Benign scum win

[Urist]

@Esooa did you really just vote for doom right after i said that

yes

Why?

[hollowkatt]

The only powerwolfing Gavial is doing is effectively making me want to play less

What is Gavial doing? There have been a few posts of his that have irked me a bit, but you seem to be bothered to a pretty big degree and I don't understand why.

It's the annoying attitude, behind someone who is spam posting the thread with a read on me. I feel forced to interact with him, and then during the times he has brought me up it comes with some "I know better than you" tone. I just wish people wouldn't act so confident and annoying at the same time. I'm only talking about it because he's literally been 95% of the game recently

straight up: do you wolf read Gavial? if you do, why?
like ok, clearly he wolf reads you, and that seems to bother you, I guess? It sounds to me like the crux of the reason you wolf read him is because he's loud and he wolf reads you and he's confident in what he's posting, right? Or am I missing something else?

[hollowkatt]

@Esooa did you really just vote for doom right after i said that

yes

Why?

Cause Esooa is a proud independent woman who don't need no reasons

[Esooa]

@Esooa did you really just vote for doom right after i said that

yes

Why?

I wanted to

[Esooa]

Alison town

[hollowkatt]

Alison town

maybe, sure

[Seanzie]

Alison town

Care to explain your thoughts on this and DoO?

[DaughterOfOmega]

The only powerwolfing Gavial is doing is effectively making me want to play less

What is Gavial doing? There have been a few posts of his that have irked me a bit, but you seem to be bothered to a pretty big degree and I don't understand why.

It's the annoying attitude, behind someone who is spam posting the thread with a read on me. I feel forced to interact with him, and then during the times he has brought me up it comes with some "I know better than you" tone. I just wish people wouldn't act so confident and annoying at the same time. I'm only talking about it because he's literally been 95% of the game recently

straight up: do you wolf read Gavial? if you do, why?
like ok, clearly he wolf reads you, and that seems to bother you, I guess? It sounds to me like the crux of the reason you wolf read him is because he's loud and he wolf reads you and he's confident in what he's posting, right? Or am I missing something else?

See this is where you are missing things. If I thought someone was mafia, I have no reason to be bothered with their behavior, I get to just vote them and ignore their posts.

The issue is I clearly don't know. I used to be very annoying and confident as a town player, and he reminds me a lot of that. These kind of players are usually doing these things as town, so I am forced to interact with a likely town member who wants to push me in the dumbest way possible.

I would have figured you were smart enough to realize this without asking if I think he is mafia.

[DaughterOfOmega]

Honestly I hate Urist saying "you have my permission to push Ali" that stuff is so weird to me. I don't see a town talking like that.

[Esooa]

Alison town

Care to explain your thoughts on this and DoO?

Alison would care more as mafia

doo I just felt like voting

[Seanzie]

Honestly I hate Urist saying "you have my permission to push Ali" that stuff is so weird to me. I don't see a town talking like that.

Now that you mention it, that whole post looks bad. Like, (paraphrased) "I don't agree with what you're saying about Alison's meta, but I'm going to encourage you to vote Alison for meta reasons anyways" does not look good.

[Gavial]

The only powerwolfing Gavial is doing is effectively making me want to play less

What is Gavial doing? There have been a few posts of his that have irked me a bit, but you seem to be bothered to a pretty big degree and I don't understand why.

It's the annoying attitude, behind someone who is spam posting the thread with a read on me. I feel forced to interact with him, and then during the times he has brought me up it comes with some "I know better than you" tone. I just wish people wouldn't act so confident and annoying at the same time. I'm only talking about it because he's literally been 95% of the game recently

Your the one playing anti town when you refuse to do a simple task someone requests you.
I GTG eat, ima catch up later.

[Urist]

Honestly I hate Urist saying "you have my permission to push Ali" that stuff is so weird to me. I don't see a town talking like that.

You were seeking validation for your read on Alison, so I gave it to you.

[Alison]

I am playing five games at once and am entering finals week. This game is relatively slow moving so it gets back burnered for now. Sorry.

[DaughterOfOmega]

I am being anti town.

This person never ceases to amaze me

[Urist]

Alison town

Care to explain your thoughts on this and DoO?

Alison would care more as mafia

Yea this is probably not wrong

[hollowkatt]

The only powerwolfing Gavial is doing is effectively making me want to play less

What is Gavial doing? There have been a few posts of his that have irked me a bit, but you seem to be bothered to a pretty big degree and I don't understand why.

It's the annoying attitude, behind someone who is spam posting the thread with a read on me. I feel forced to interact with him, and then during the times he has brought me up it comes with some "I know better than you" tone. I just wish people wouldn't act so confident and annoying at the same time. I'm only talking about it because he's literally been 95% of the game recently

straight up: do you wolf read Gavial? if you do, why?
like ok, clearly he wolf reads you, and that seems to bother you, I guess? It sounds to me like the crux of the reason you wolf read him is because he's loud and he wolf reads you and he's confident in what he's posting, right? Or am I missing something else?

See this is where you are missing things. If I thought someone was mafia, I have no reason to be bothered with their behavior, I get to just vote them and ignore their posts.

The issue is I clearly don't know. I used to be very annoying and confident as a town player, and he reminds me a lot of that. These kind of players are usually doing these things as town, so I am forced to interact with a likely town member who wants to push me in the dumbest way possible.

I would have figured you were smart enough to realize this without asking if I think he is mafia.

going to ignore the snark at the end and just focus on your answer.
You town read Gavial then, is your answer. You're annoyed with him then b/c you think he's town and you think he's anti-town with the way he's making pushes/engaging with others/interacting with the thread. Would that be accurate?

It reads to me that you're offended that he wolf reads you, which is just like super weird to me. Instead of engaging with him and finding out why he's wolf reading you and seeing if you and him can work something out you're kinda snippy about him and vagueposting about how much fun you're not having.

am I wrong?

[hollowkatt]

I am being anti town.

This person never ceases to amaze me

What have you done that is town?

[Gavial]

Alison could be town I just need more from them.
Also I am more confident on Sean now.
Lean Town.

[Gavial]

Still have Urist/LC/TSP/Jessie in the Null Pile.

[Gavial]

I am being anti town.

This person never ceases to amaze me

What have you done that is town?

They are going to ignore or redirect this question just like they did to me.

[Gavial]

I am playing five games at once and am entering finals week. This game is relatively slow moving so it gets back burnered for now. Sorry.

Can you at least respond to my questions.

[Gavial]

The only powerwolfing Gavial is doing is effectively making me want to play less

What is Gavial doing? There have been a few posts of his that have irked me a bit, but you seem to be bothered to a pretty big degree and I don't understand why.

It's the annoying attitude, behind someone who is spam posting the thread with a read on me. I feel forced to interact with him, and then during the times he has brought me up it comes with some "I know better than you" tone. I just wish people wouldn't act so confident and annoying at the same time. I'm only talking about it because he's literally been 95% of the game recently

straight up: do you wolf read Gavial? if you do, why?
like ok, clearly he wolf reads you, and that seems to bother you, I guess? It sounds to me like the crux of the reason you wolf read him is because he's loud and he wolf reads you and he's confident in what he's posting, right? Or am I missing something else?

See this is where you are missing things. If I thought someone was mafia, I have no reason to be bothered with their behavior, I get to just vote them and ignore their posts.

The issue is I clearly don't know. I used to be very annoying and confident as a town player, and he reminds me a lot of that. These kind of players are usually doing these things as town, so I am forced to interact with a likely town member who wants to push me in the dumbest way possible.

I would have figured you were smart enough to realize this without asking if I think he is mafia.

going to ignore the snark at the end and just focus on your answer.
You town read Gavial then, is your answer. You're annoyed with him then b/c you think he's town and you think he's anti-town with the way he's making pushes/engaging with others/interacting with the thread. Would that be accurate?

It reads to me that you're offended that he wolf reads you, which is just like super weird to me. Instead of engaging with him and finding out why he's wolf reading you and seeing if you and him can work something out you're kinda snippy about him and vagueposting about how much fun you're not having.

am I wrong?

Last time I remember they calling me out as a lair and something like “your scum or horrible town” which I’ve been the engaging town TYVM

[Gavial]

All I wanted from them was a simple answer, was like Nullish on them and wanting something more from them.
Instead they throw pebbles my way instead of providing me with the paper. THAT pinged me to SR them.
Changing the subject without answering first is a no no.

[Gavial]

@Samusamu
@falcon45ca
As of now, what’s your progression and overall thoughts on each other’s slots?

[hollowkatt]

I am being anti town.

This person never ceases to amaze me

What have you done that is town?

They are going to ignore or redirect this question just like they did to me.

Which is fineish b/c that's wolf indicative and we have ways of handling that.
Dancing around questions, not engaging with direct asks, that kind of thing is wolfy

[DaughterOfOmega]

People acting like I've been ignoring anything?

Do you even realize I was the person who started the interaction between Gavial and I?

Like I swear to fucking god, if these 2 are town I'm going to lose my mind. I hope my teammates aren't this fraudulent

[DaughterOfOmega]

If you are being serious, work on your ability to analyze the game

[DaughterOfOmega]

The only powerwolfing Gavial is doing is effectively making me want to play less

What is Gavial doing? There have been a few posts of his that have irked me a bit, but you seem to be bothered to a pretty big degree and I don't understand why.

It's the annoying attitude, behind someone who is spam posting the thread with a read on me. I feel forced to interact with him, and then during the times he has brought me up it comes with some "I know better than you" tone. I just wish people wouldn't act so confident and annoying at the same time. I'm only talking about it because he's literally been 95% of the game recently

straight up: do you wolf read Gavial? if you do, why?
like ok, clearly he wolf reads you, and that seems to bother you, I guess? It sounds to me like the crux of the reason you wolf read him is because he's loud and he wolf reads you and he's confident in what he's posting, right? Or am I missing something else?

See this is where you are missing things. If I thought someone was mafia, I have no reason to be bothered with their behavior, I get to just vote them and ignore their posts.

The issue is I clearly don't know. I used to be very annoying and confident as a town player, and he reminds me a lot of that. These kind of players are usually doing these things as town, so I am forced to interact with a likely town member who wants to push me in the dumbest way possible.

I would have figured you were smart enough to realize this without asking if I think he is mafia.

going to ignore the snark at the end and just focus on your answer.
You town read Gavial then, is your answer. You're annoyed with him then b/c you think he's town and you think he's anti-town with the way he's making pushes/engaging with others/interacting with the thread. Would that be accurate?

It reads to me that you're offended that he wolf reads you, which is just like super weird to me. Instead of engaging with him and finding out why he's wolf reading you and seeing if you and him can work something out you're kinda snippy about him and vagueposting about how much fun you're not having.

am I wrong?

Yeah you are wrong. You keep assuming things, but always put "well maybe I am wrong" pretty cringe

You should know that I talked to Gavial before he even knew anything about me, and through that interaction was why he read me mafia. He was mad that I called him mafia for making up reasons for a list of names. It's so FUCKING IRONIC that you sit here telling me that I am calling Gavial mafia because I am upset he is pushing me, when you fail to even grasp the simple fact Gavial did the exact thing you are accusing me of. Like holy shit, my brain can't handle it

[DaughterOfOmega]

I need a break, either beyond bad town, or mafia is taking up the entire activity of the thread

[hollowkatt]

The only powerwolfing Gavial is doing is effectively making me want to play less

What is Gavial doing? There have been a few posts of his that have irked me a bit, but you seem to be bothered to a pretty big degree and I don't understand why.

It's the annoying attitude, behind someone who is spam posting the thread with a read on me. I feel forced to interact with him, and then during the times he has brought me up it comes with some "I know better than you" tone. I just wish people wouldn't act so confident and annoying at the same time. I'm only talking about it because he's literally been 95% of the game recently

straight up: do you wolf read Gavial? if you do, why?
like ok, clearly he wolf reads you, and that seems to bother you, I guess? It sounds to me like the crux of the reason you wolf read him is because he's loud and he wolf reads you and he's confident in what he's posting, right? Or am I missing something else?

See this is where you are missing things. If I thought someone was mafia, I have no reason to be bothered with their behavior, I get to just vote them and ignore their posts.

The issue is I clearly don't know. I used to be very annoying and confident as a town player, and he reminds me a lot of that. These kind of players are usually doing these things as town, so I am forced to interact with a likely town member who wants to push me in the dumbest way possible.

I would have figured you were smart enough to realize this without asking if I think he is mafia.

going to ignore the snark at the end and just focus on your answer.
You town read Gavial then, is your answer. You're annoyed with him then b/c you think he's town and you think he's anti-town with the way he's making pushes/engaging with others/interacting with the thread. Would that be accurate?

It reads to me that you're offended that he wolf reads you, which is just like super weird to me. Instead of engaging with him and finding out why he's wolf reading you and seeing if you and him can work something out you're kinda snippy about him and vagueposting about how much fun you're not having.

am I wrong?

Yeah you are wrong. You keep assuming things, but always put "well maybe I am wrong" pretty cringe

You should know that I talked to Gavial before he even knew anything about me, and through that interaction was why he read me mafia. He was mad that I called him mafia for making up reasons for a list of names. It's so FUCKING IRONIC that you sit here telling me that I am calling Gavial mafia because I am upset he is pushing me, when you fail to even grasp the simple fact Gavial did the exact thing you are accusing me of. Like holy shit, my brain can't handle it

I don't understand the level of pissy you're exhibiting especially towards me. I'm trying to understand your position on Gavial and how you're getting there. So when I try to put into my words what I think you're saying you get super butthurt about it.

Maybe instead of calling me cringe and talking about how I fail to grasp simple things you just maybe explain the simple things I'm failing to grasp? You're coming off to me as a wolf who's mad about being caught b/c they think the reasons they're being wolf read isn't fair.

So ok, he wolf reads you off of your early interactions, and that you said he was mafia for making up reasons for his list of names. You are posting like you're mad he wolf reads you. That's pretty obvs to me.
You've also said, maybe not in so many words, that you Town read Gavial, right? So which is it: Do you think he's town or do you think he's a wolf?

[hollowkatt]

If you are being serious, work on your ability to analyze the game

Is this directed at anyone in particular or do you just kinda think everyone who isn't you is shite?

[Urist]

If you are being serious, work on your ability to analyze the game

Is this directed at anyone in particular or do you just kinda think everyone who isn't you is shite?

I can't speak for DoO, but I assume it's the latter.
I do think that's more of a townie mindset for her though. I don't disagree with the points you're making about her *in general*, but I don't think they apply to DoO.

[Gavial]

People acting like I've been ignoring anything?

Do you even realize I was the person who started the interaction between Gavial and I?

Like I swear to fucking god, if these 2 are town I'm going to lose my mind. I hope my teammates aren't this fraudulent

I gave you 5 players of topic.
You didn’t like it.

[hollowkatt]

If you are being serious, work on your ability to analyze the game

Is this directed at anyone in particular or do you just kinda think everyone who isn't you is shite?

I can't speak for DoO, but I assume it's the latter.
I do think that's more of a townie mindset for her though. I don't disagree with the points you're making about her *in general*, but I don't think they apply to DoO.

tbh I want to wolf read her for it. mostly b/c I've done what she's doing as wolf, and I've had it done to me. It's kinda effective b/c as long as you're not crossing the line from "annoyed and responding with snark and sarcasm" into "actually insulting people" it gets people who sus you to back off.

Outside of her interactions with me/Gavial what's your take on DoO? I know my read on her is currently clouded by my recent interactions.

[Gavial]

The only powerwolfing Gavial is doing is effectively making me want to play less

What is Gavial doing? There have been a few posts of his that have irked me a bit, but you seem to be bothered to a pretty big degree and I don't understand why.

It's the annoying attitude, behind someone who is spam posting the thread with a read on me. I feel forced to interact with him, and then during the times he has brought me up it comes with some "I know better than you" tone. I just wish people wouldn't act so confident and annoying at the same time. I'm only talking about it because he's literally been 95% of the game recently

straight up: do you wolf read Gavial? if you do, why?
like ok, clearly he wolf reads you, and that seems to bother you, I guess? It sounds to me like the crux of the reason you wolf read him is because he's loud and he wolf reads you and he's confident in what he's posting, right? Or am I missing something else?

See this is where you are missing things. If I thought someone was mafia, I have no reason to be bothered with their behavior, I get to just vote them and ignore their posts.

The issue is I clearly don't know. I used to be very annoying and confident as a town player, and he reminds me a lot of that. These kind of players are usually doing these things as town, so I am forced to interact with a likely town member who wants to push me in the dumbest way possible.

I would have figured you were smart enough to realize this without asking if I think he is mafia.

going to ignore the snark at the end and just focus on your answer.
You town read Gavial then, is your answer. You're annoyed with him then b/c you think he's town and you think he's anti-town with the way he's making pushes/engaging with others/interacting with the thread. Would that be accurate?

It reads to me that you're offended that he wolf reads you, which is just like super weird to me. Instead of engaging with him and finding out why he's wolf reading you and seeing if you and him can work something out you're kinda snippy about him and vagueposting about how much fun you're not having.

am I wrong?

Yeah you are wrong. You keep assuming things, but always put "well maybe I am wrong" pretty cringe

You should know that I talked to Gavial before he even knew anything about me, and through that interaction was why he read me mafia. He was mad that I called him mafia for making up reasons for a list of names. It's so FUCKING IRONIC that you sit here telling me that I am calling Gavial mafia because I am upset he is pushing me, when you fail to even grasp the simple fact Gavial did the exact thing you are accusing me of. Like holy shit, my brain can't handle it

lol I’m not mad at you calling me a liar.
I’m mad at you not answering the question.
You could have answered it after you called me a liar or before it.
But you didn’t.
Stop trying to pin me as the bad guy.

[Gavial]

I need a break, either beyond bad town, or mafia is taking up the entire activity of the thread

I’m not bad town at all, I’ve actually been helping quite a bit.

[Gavial]

If you are being serious, work on your ability to analyze the game

Is this directed at anyone in particular or do you just kinda think everyone who isn't you is shite?

I can't speak for DoO, but I assume it's the latter.
I do think that's more of a townie mindset for her though. I don't disagree with the points you're making about her *in general*, but I don't think they apply to DoO.

So your read on Doom is meta based?

[hollowkatt]

If you are being serious, work on your ability to analyze the game

Is this directed at anyone in particular or do you just kinda think everyone who isn't you is shite?

I can't speak for DoO, but I assume it's the latter.
I do think that's more of a townie mindset for her though. I don't disagree with the points you're making about her *in general*, but I don't think they apply to DoO.

So your read on Doom is meta based?

Seems that way yeah

[Seanzie]

If you are being serious, work on your ability to analyze the game

Is this directed at anyone in particular or do you just kinda think everyone who isn't you is shite?

I can't speak for DoO, but I assume it's the latter.
I do think that's more of a townie mindset for her though. I don't disagree with the points you're making about her *in general*, but I don't think they apply to DoO.

tbh I want to wolf read her for it. mostly b/c I've done what she's doing as wolf, and I've had it done to me. It's kinda effective b/c as long as you're not crossing the line from "annoyed and responding with snark and sarcasm" into "actually insulting people" it gets people who sus you to back off.

Outside of her interactions with me/Gavial what's your take on DoO? I know my read on her is currently clouded by my recent interactions.

You "want" to wolf read her? Are you wolf reading her, or no?

[Urist]

If you are being serious, work on your ability to analyze the game

Is this directed at anyone in particular or do you just kinda think everyone who isn't you is shite?

I can't speak for DoO, but I assume it's the latter.
I do think that's more of a townie mindset for her though. I don't disagree with the points you're making about her *in general*, but I don't think they apply to DoO.

So your read on Doom is meta based?

Yeah it's based on the Fallout game we played together. I don't think she's emotionally capable of playing scum.

[Urist]

If you are being serious, work on your ability to analyze the game

Is this directed at anyone in particular or do you just kinda think everyone who isn't you is shite?

I can't speak for DoO, but I assume it's the latter.
I do think that's more of a townie mindset for her though. I don't disagree with the points you're making about her *in general*, but I don't think they apply to DoO.

tbh I want to wolf read her for it. mostly b/c I've done what she's doing as wolf, and I've had it done to me. It's kinda effective b/c as long as you're not crossing the line from "annoyed and responding with snark and sarcasm" into "actually insulting people" it gets people who sus you to back off.

Outside of her interactions with me/Gavial what's your take on DoO? I know my read on her is currently clouded by my recent interactions.

You "want" to wolf read her? Are you wolf reading her, or no?

I can't speak for hollowkatt but it seems pretty clear from his posts that he is scumreading her.
This just looks like an attempt to throw shade at hk.

[Urist]

Did

[Urist]

Did you ever get around to writing that doo case Gharial?

[Urist]

If you are being serious, work on your ability to analyze the game

Is this directed at anyone in particular or do you just kinda think everyone who isn't you is shite?

I can't speak for DoO, but I assume it's the latter.
I do think that's more of a townie mindset for her though. I don't disagree with the points you're making about her *in general*, but I don't think they apply to DoO.

tbh I want to wolf read her for it. mostly b/c I've done what she's doing as wolf, and I've had it done to me. It's kinda effective b/c as long as you're not crossing the line from "annoyed and responding with snark and sarcasm" into "actually insulting people" it gets people who sus you to back off.

Outside of her interactions with me/Gavial what's your take on DoO? I know my read on her is currently clouded by my recent interactions.

I think I've answered this but lmk. Hoping we can get on the same page this game and not have a repeat of mtg.
Do you still think Gharial is scum?

[Long Con]

Well, caught up. Crazy thread, tight as a tourniquet in here. I am still comfortable with a vote on Samu, and I'm going to lay my chips down on Alison being his teammate. Not for her activity level or meta, because I get that she is out there, fighting the good mafia fight, on several battlefields. I don't buy her defense of Samu, it was just a little too pointed, it hinted at intent to me. As much as I loved the Tarot card opening, it's NAI unless I picture he satisfaction of easing into a game with a fun purpose, as a wolf. I like it better as a wolf tactic, and maybe I want to believe that a little more than is ideal.

I don't know DoOM that well, but I'll just put it out there and call her town. I don't specifically know her wolf range though.

[Gavial]

Well, caught up. Crazy thread, tight as a tourniquet in here. I am still comfortable with a vote on Samu, and I'm going to lay my chips down on Alison being his teammate. Not for her activity level or meta, because I get that she is out there, fighting the good mafia fight, on several battlefields. I don't buy her defense of Samu, it was just a little too pointed, it hinted at intent to me. As much as I loved the Tarot card opening, it's NAI unless I picture he satisfaction of easing into a game with a fun purpose, as a wolf. I like it better as a wolf tactic, and maybe I want to believe that a little more than is ideal.

I don't know DoOM that well, but I'll just put it out there and call her town. I don't specifically know her wolf range though.

Meta based or?

[Gavial]

I don’t know I’m conflicted between DOOM and Falcon.
My votes prob gonna land on one of them today.

[Gavial]

Still flying Rn.

[Gavial]

Can probably do a case on both of them tomorrow.
I’m the most confident in them.

Sean’s recent posts seem Townie to me.
I’m like borderline null lean scum on BK but not entirely that sold on it at all either.
I think Samu can definitely be scum but they can just as well probably be town under probability so.