Beelzebub The Benign scum win

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Hammer is at 5

Poll ended at Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:00 pm

Falcon
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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D2

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You didn't leave too much room open for interpretation.
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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D2

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Gavial wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:15 pm TOWNCORE
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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D2

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Urist wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:16 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:06 pm
Urist wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:54 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:49 pm Has anyone else looked at hollowkatt's ISO?
I looked through it yeah
How can samu be mafia? Why are Esooa and Long Con not good suspects?
For the things you pointed at for LC, it's possible that it was actually hk telling his partner (Samu) in-thread to go after someone other than LC. The interaction with Samu is definitely weird and I think it implicates one of LC or Samu. I think you're just wrong on which one.
Why do that in the thread and not in the team chat?
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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D2

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Gavial wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:24 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:42 pm
Urist wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:30 pm [VOTE: falcon] aubergine
Urist wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:32 pm @Gavial ^
Directly appealing to Gav's sus of me? Shady shady, not even slim
What happened to solve Esooa today and don’t vote to yeet anyone else?
I've already stated that the lack of CW on Esooa has me wondering if it's the right move.


I'm still fine with Esooa, I'm trying to see if there's any traction on a CW
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I feel like I remember earlier interactions in hk's iso that painted samu favorably as well. And samu has been met with erroneous suspicion every time I've ever seen him be town, so my impulse is usually to defend him.
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I think I’m gonna trust Sloonei but my gut says he’s a wolf but that’s okay I’ve read less of this game than he has
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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D2

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falcon45ca wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:33 pm
Gavial wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:24 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:42 pm
Urist wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:30 pm [VOTE: falcon] aubergine
Urist wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:32 pm @Gavial ^
Directly appealing to Gav's sus of me? Shady shady, not even slim
What happened to solve Esooa today and don’t vote to yeet anyone else?
I've already stated that the lack of CW on Esooa has me wondering if it's the right move.


I'm still fine with Esooa, I'm trying to see if there's any traction on a CW
There are almost certainly only two wolves left. If Esooa is one of them, she's as good as gone. Her lone teammate would probably not want to stick their neck out to save her right now.
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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D2

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Sloonei wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:33 pm I feel like I remember earlier interactions in hk's iso that painted samu favorably as well. And samu has been met with erroneous suspicion every time I've ever seen him be town, so my impulse is usually to defend him.
Same seemed town until he voted for a zero poster of scum
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Gavial wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:20 pm Question is do they kill me and Sean when both of us are obvious town that are VT’s.
Or does scum hunt for the 3 PR’s that we still have and haven’t died unless the AFK N1 death slot was a PR.

As I do have a feeling the death was due to BG on me and Falcon is Mafia that wanted to kill me.



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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D2

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falcon45ca wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:13 pm
Urist wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:48 pm in all actuality though i think we're going to see a townflip on esooa and then a townflip on lc and then probably a townflip on me and then we're going to lose to like samu/sloonei team or something
Urist wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:49 pm because i'm getting similar vibes of "oh we got this in the bag nbd" from fallout mafia and it's sketching me out
What? Nice to know you think we'll "probably" get a town flip on you
"probably" as in i will probably be axed in a few days
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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D2

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Sloonei wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:34 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:33 pm
Gavial wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:24 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:42 pm
Urist wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:30 pm [VOTE: falcon] aubergine
Urist wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:32 pm @Gavial ^
Directly appealing to Gav's sus of me? Shady shady, not even slim
What happened to solve Esooa today and don’t vote to yeet anyone else?
I've already stated that the lack of CW on Esooa has me wondering if it's the right move.


I'm still fine with Esooa, I'm trying to see if there's any traction on a CW
There are almost certainly only two wolves left. If Esooa is one of them, she's as good as gone. Her lone teammate would probably not want to stick their neck out to save her right now.
Fine. [VOTE: VOTE ESOOA] aubergine
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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D2

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Gavial wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:17 pm
Urist wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:16 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:06 pm
Urist wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:54 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:49 pm Has anyone else looked at hollowkatt's ISO?
I looked through it yeah
How can samu be mafia? Why are Esooa and Long Con not good suspects?
For the things you pointed at for LC, it's possible that it was actually hk telling his partner (Samu) in-thread to go after someone other than LC. The interaction with Samu is definitely weird and I think it implicates one of LC or Samu. I think you're just wrong on which one.

As for Esooa, at this point I'm starting to think that I might be wrong and that she's given up and has stopped posting for fear of spewing anyone. It looks like she's written this game off already.
Yeah I’m fairly certain it’s something like Tony/Samu/Falcon, Tony/Samu/BK
Or something.
you do know that there are only 2 mafia left right
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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D2

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Urist wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:35 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:13 pm
Urist wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:48 pm in all actuality though i think we're going to see a townflip on esooa and then a townflip on lc and then probably a townflip on me and then we're going to lose to like samu/sloonei team or something
Urist wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:49 pm because i'm getting similar vibes of "oh we got this in the bag nbd" from fallout mafia and it's sketching me out
What? Nice to know you think we'll "probably" get a town flip on you
"probably" as in i will probably be axed in a few days
Interesting. What makes you think so?
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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D2

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We're one vote away from hammer btw
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Sloonei wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:32 pm
Urist wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:16 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:06 pm
Urist wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:54 pm
Sloonei wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:49 pm Has anyone else looked at hollowkatt's ISO?
I looked through it yeah
How can samu be mafia? Why are Esooa and Long Con not good suspects?
For the things you pointed at for LC, it's possible that it was actually hk telling his partner (Samu) in-thread to go after someone other than LC. The interaction with Samu is definitely weird and I think it implicates one of LC or Samu. I think you're just wrong on which one.
Why do that in the thread and not in the team chat?
because there were 20 minutes left until deadline and they might not have had time to coordinate like that
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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D2

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falcon45ca wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:36 pm
Urist wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:35 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:13 pm
Urist wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:48 pm in all actuality though i think we're going to see a townflip on esooa and then a townflip on lc and then probably a townflip on me and then we're going to lose to like samu/sloonei team or something
Urist wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:49 pm because i'm getting similar vibes of "oh we got this in the bag nbd" from fallout mafia and it's sketching me out
What? Nice to know you think we'll "probably" get a town flip on you
"probably" as in i will probably be axed in a few days
Interesting. What makes you think so?
because the only two games i haven't been mislynched on this site were when i was mechanically confirmed town
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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D2

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Urist wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:19 pm I feel like Esooa has given up on this game
Although I don't quite buy that esooa's eod is mafia nor his attitude just before the close of the day is explained by esooa being mafia, I do have the same feeling.

I also find it strange that no one, not even esooa himself cares to argue about the posts I've brought up about his attitude on the eod.

At this point if at some point if needed, i wouldnt mind hammering on esooa.
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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D2

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Sloonei wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:49 pm Has anyone else looked at hollowkatt's ISO?
Yes
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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D2

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Urist wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:41 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:36 pm
Urist wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:35 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:13 pm
Urist wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:48 pm in all actuality though i think we're going to see a townflip on esooa and then a townflip on lc and then probably a townflip on me and then we're going to lose to like samu/sloonei team or something
Urist wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:49 pm because i'm getting similar vibes of "oh we got this in the bag nbd" from fallout mafia and it's sketching me out
What? Nice to know you think we'll "probably" get a town flip on you
"probably" as in i will probably be axed in a few days
Interesting. What makes you think so?
because the only two games i haven't been mislynched on this site were when i was mechanically confirmed town
I like this subtle AtE you're laying down here
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@Urist Why do you feel you're mislynched so often? How often are you lynched as Maf?
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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D2

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falcon45ca wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 3:07 pm
Urist wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:41 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:36 pm
Urist wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:35 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:13 pm
Urist wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:48 pm in all actuality though i think we're going to see a townflip on esooa and then a townflip on lc and then probably a townflip on me and then we're going to lose to like samu/sloonei team or something
Urist wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:49 pm because i'm getting similar vibes of "oh we got this in the bag nbd" from fallout mafia and it's sketching me out
What? Nice to know you think we'll "probably" get a town flip on you
"probably" as in i will probably be axed in a few days
Interesting. What makes you think so?
because the only two games i haven't been mislynched on this site were when i was mechanically confirmed town
I like this subtle AtE you're laying down here
i am literally just answering your question with a fact
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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D2

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falcon45ca wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 3:07 pm @Urist Why do you feel you're mislynched so often? How often are you lynched as Maf?
prob because i don't make my progression easy enough to follow, i don't post often enough, i don't make wall posts, maybe some other reasons. i haven't been maf on this site but on my other site i was pretty successful as mafia and generally won most of the games where i rolled scum. i typically try a lot harder as scum.
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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D2

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Urist wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 3:18 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 3:07 pm
Urist wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:41 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:36 pm
Urist wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:35 pm
falcon45ca wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 2:13 pm
Urist wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:48 pm in all actuality though i think we're going to see a townflip on esooa and then a townflip on lc and then probably a townflip on me and then we're going to lose to like samu/sloonei team or something
Urist wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 1:49 pm because i'm getting similar vibes of "oh we got this in the bag nbd" from fallout mafia and it's sketching me out
What? Nice to know you think we'll "probably" get a town flip on you
"probably" as in i will probably be axed in a few days
Interesting. What makes you think so?
because the only two games i haven't been mislynched on this site were when i was mechanically confirmed town
I like this subtle AtE you're laying down here
i am literally just answering your question with a fact
That's why I said it was subtle
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Nobody here?
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Samusamu wrote: Wed Apr 14, 2021 4:44 pmNobody here?
I'm here
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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D2

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Always at least 1 scum within Tony/Falcon
Always at least 1 scum within Samu/Urist/BK


Never scum together:
Urist/Samu
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Remember this and ima leave for the rest of the day and potentially rest of the game.
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Vote esooa
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Esooa (7): bo, samu, tsp, sean, gavial, sloon, falcon
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@Esooa dies and flips town

Get me nights actions ASAP if you have them

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Esooa was VT
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@Sloonei and @Long Con die in the night. Sloon flips VT. LC flips:
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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

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Each night you can check a player to see if they owe their soul to Beelzebub or not (a player who has not yet accepted a bargain or who has completed a bargain will check the same, this will only detect someone with an uncompleted bargain).

Can anybody explain me this?
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So we only have 1 ML left, meaning we need a winning PoE with 3 people.

I think Urist and Falcon should definitely both be in there, Gavial never should be. Samu I also think is okay. So BK or TSP would be a third, probably TSP if I had to choose one of those two GTH.

So like {Urist,Falcon,TSP}? Are there any anti-team pairs in there?
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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

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We all have to decide who is the core, then obligate the poe/non core to weight first and vote accordingly.

Is everybody fine with this?

For me Bk and seanzie are the core, meanwhile falcon and urist are the poe and should weight and vote first.

Tsp can be everything and should weight after falcon and urist
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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

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Samu should definitely be in the poe considering his play yesterday @Seanzie
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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

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Uh actually tsp might have to die today
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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

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Seanzie wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:01 pm So we only have 1 ML left, meaning we need a winning PoE with 3 people.

I think Urist and Falcon should definitely both be in there, Gavial never should be. Samu I also think is okay. So BK or TSP would be a third, probably TSP if I had to choose one of those two GTH.

So like {Urist,Falcon,TSP}? Are there any anti-team pairs in there?
I'm fine with this POE
we can't stop here...this is bat country!
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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

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doesn't look like LC softed anyone
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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

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Vague, reductionist, simplistic, convenient, encircling.

This post is definitely mafioso.

At this point in the game it is normal for any player to have more or less settled reads, you meanwhile only look for excuses to see me as scum, you do not show a slight hint of reflection, as a town would.

Nor are you town tunneling to another town, no, you would be more insistent and you would be seen excited to discover in me what you believe as mafia behavior.

I'm pretty tired this game of you.
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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

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Urist wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:13 pm Uh actually tsp might have to die today
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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

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Urist wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:08 pm Samu should definitely be in the poe considering his play yesterday @Seanzie
Idk why you keep pushing this, but I don't see it.
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falcon45ca wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:14 pm
Seanzie wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:01 pm So we only have 1 ML left, meaning we need a winning PoE with 3 people.

I think Urist and Falcon should definitely both be in there, Gavial never should be. Samu I also think is okay. So BK or TSP would be a third, probably TSP if I had to choose one of those two GTH.

So like {Urist,Falcon,TSP}? Are there any anti-team pairs in there?
I'm fine with this POE
So do you think the scum team is exactly Urist/TSP then?
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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

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Samusamu wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:19 pm Vague, reductionist, simplistic, convenient, encircling.

This post is definitely mafioso.

At this point in the game it is normal for any player to have more or less settled reads, you meanwhile only look for excuses to see me as scum, you do not show a slight hint of reflection, as a town would.

Nor are you town tunneling to another town, no, you would be more insistent and you would be seen excited to discover in me what you believe as mafia behavior.

I'm pretty tired this game of you.
Who are you talking to?
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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

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Samusamu wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:06 pm We all have to decide who is the core, then obligate the poe/non core to weight first and vote accordingly.

Is everybody fine with this?

For me Bk and seanzie are the core, meanwhile falcon and urist are the poe and should weight and vote first.

Tsp can be everything and should weight after falcon and urist
I will repeat myself.

Is EVERYBODY fine with this?
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Re: Beelzebub The Benign D3

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falcon45ca wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:23 pm
Samusamu wrote: Thu Apr 15, 2021 7:19 pm Vague, reductionist, simplistic, convenient, encircling.

This post is definitely mafioso.

At this point in the game it is normal for any player to have more or less settled reads, you meanwhile only look for excuses to see me as scum, you do not show a slight hint of reflection, as a town would.

Nor are you town tunneling to another town, no, you would be more insistent and you would be seen excited to discover in me what you believe as mafia behavior.

I'm pretty tired this game of you.
Who are you talking to?
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