Fargo Mafia [Game Ends]

[Alison]

right now you're defending a worldview that is logically impossible so I am pretty comfortable asserting that you don't understand the mechanics in play here

[Michelle]

Look Nanook, i push her not because of my peek, but because of the last night events

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

BTW hally this is why I protected you over mich last night, i was pretty confident her checks are unreliable

And they are

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Look Nanook, i push her not because of my peek, but because of the last night events

Which ones

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I'm willing to hear you out but your argument cannot include your checks or saying that hally is mafia, I check out as soon as it does

[staypositivefriend]

can anyone here give me a reason why i should townread fingersplints? long con has the most experience with her out of everyone in this game, and he scumread her. fingersplints fos'd long con. fingersplints has barely posted within the last couple of phases. the posts that fingersplints have made in the last couple of phases have felt relatively aimless.

do any of these things make fingersplint a wolf? no, but i don't understand the lack of attention on her slot

even if we live in some crazy world where alison/michelle/etc is a wolf, there are still wolves outside of that, so let's get them first, yeah?

[Hally]

i’m not engaging in this anymore. michelle, if you want to push a world where alison and i are wolves you can do it to your heart’s content but i hope you know you’re pounding sand

i am going to wait for splints to claim. that’s all i care about right now

[KZA]

Morning

I'm a tracker-variant of some sort. When I track, I also learn what action was done as well.

N1: I tracked BK to JJJ. It didn't mention anything about pills, just that he is an item-giver.
N2: I tracked Nook to Dom. Nothing more needs to be said there.
N4: I tracked KZA to SPF. Apparently, the ability used here is to duplicate failed actions on their target until success.

flavour?

[Hally]

can anyone here give me a reason why i should townread fingersplints? long con has the most experience with her out of everyone in this game, and he scumread her. fingersplints fos'd long con. fingersplints has barely posted within the last couple of phases. the posts that fingersplints have made in the last couple of phases have felt relatively aimless.

do any of these things make fingersplint a wolf? no, but i don't understand the lack of attention on her slot

even if we live in some crazy world where alison/michelle/etc is a wolf, there are still wolves outside of that, so let's get them first, yeah?

i’m pretty sure we all have her in our poe

[Michelle]

Like if you think Alison is mafia fine go ahead and try to push that, but you're not going to get anywhere pushing her with your red check cause your check are proven to be unreliable

This is what mafia wants us to believe, but not that check matters, but the other 2.
Odd being villager, means that Alison as wolf is controling him and made possible the death of a villager while making herself looking mechanically clean.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I'm going back to bed, I'm begging you guys not to let the thread get nasty or toxic, please

I really feel like we're super close to figuring this game out let's not get petty now


Mich, ill read your non-check stuff on alison in the morning, tag me with it if you don't mind

[staypositivefriend]

who are the wolves outside of alison and hally, michelle?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Like if you think Alison is mafia fine go ahead and try to push that, but you're not going to get anywhere pushing her with your red check cause your check are proven to be unreliable

This is what mafia wants us to believe, but not that check matters, but the other 2.
Odd being villager, means that Alison as wolf is controling him and made possible the death of a villager while making herself looking mechanically clean.

Odd is informed when Alison dictates his target. She can't do it without him knowing.

[Michelle]

Tbh Hally's frustration of me being alive is telling a story

If you push hally I will shoot you

Ok
Hally is wolf

[Michelle]

Like if you think Alison is mafia fine go ahead and try to push that, but you're not going to get anywhere pushing her with your red check cause your check are proven to be unreliable

This is what mafia wants us to believe, but not that check matters, but the other 2.
Odd being villager, means that Alison as wolf is controling him and made possible the death of a villager while making herself looking mechanically clean.

Odd is informed when Alison dictates his target. She can't do it without him knowing.

This does not contradicted what i said

[Michelle]

who are the wolves outside of alison and hally, michelle?

Probably in JPIC and Fingers, idk

[Hally]

nook you are not shooting michelle. come on

[Esooa]

honestly it does make a lot of sense for Alisons role to be a wolf because she would know what actions the people do if they accept, which only needs to be done by giving them orders which seem fine

Like knowing what the town bus driver does is important

That said I don't think Alison is a wolf

[staypositivefriend]

i am having a hard time figuring out if michelle is presenting her concerns against alison/hally in good faith or not. i would find it helpful if she went into depth about the non-mechanical reasons that she thinks they are wolves

but above all else, i am the most interested in hearing who her wolfreads are outside of those two

[Esooa]

I'm pretty confident michelle is town

[Hally]

i am having a hard time figuring out if michelle is presenting her concerns against alison/hally in good faith or not. i would find it helpful if she went into depth about the non-mechanical reasons that she thinks they are wolves

but above all else, i am the most interested in hearing who her wolfreads are outside of those two

i will do a backflip if michelle is a wolf here

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

The only world where mich has reliable checks is if mafia have a roleblocker and if they have a roleblocker why is mich still alive and getting checks

Spoiler: show

its possible Alison knew odd was a busdriver and they blocked him, then can't block mich cause it would out Alison as a real red check (and/or al sama was the roleblocker). This is a distressingly realistic scenario but I don't want to talk about it tonight

[staypositivefriend]

i am having a hard time figuring out if michelle is presenting her concerns against alison/hally in good faith or not. i would find it helpful if she went into depth about the non-mechanical reasons that she thinks they are wolves

but above all else, i am the most interested in hearing who her wolfreads are outside of those two

i will do a backflip if michelle is a wolf here

yeah youre right actually, she's probably always just a villager here

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

nook you are not shooting michelle. come on

If she pushes confirmed town I would at least consider it, tbh

Theres a reason she's alive and its at least partly cause shes scumsiding

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I'm not fucking around if she's pushing hally overnight ill scumside and shoot her, you can't push confirmed town

[Hally]

hourly reminder that spf is a wolf

[Justplayingitcool]

Morning

I'm a tracker-variant of some sort. When I track, I also learn what action was done as well.

N1: I tracked BK to JJJ. It didn't mention anything about pills, just that he is an item-giver.
N2: I tracked Nook to Dom. Nothing more needs to be said there.
N4: I tracked KZA to SPF. Apparently, the ability used here is to duplicate failed actions on their target until success.

flavour?

Denise

[Esooa]

hourly reminder that spf is a wolf

really?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Janitored flips in role madness suck and are anti fun

[KZA]

Morning

I'm a tracker-variant of some sort. When I track, I also learn what action was done as well.

N1: I tracked BK to JJJ. It didn't mention anything about pills, just that he is an item-giver.
N2: I tracked Nook to Dom. Nothing more needs to be said there.
N4: I tracked KZA to SPF. Apparently, the ability used here is to duplicate failed actions on their target until success.

flavour?

Denise

alright

[staypositivefriend]

hourly reminder that spf is a wolf

god i wish

[Hally]

spf keeps pushing people for approaching mechanics “in bad faith”

she did it to falcon and now she’s doing it to michelle

but spf knows that being irrationally stubborn and dumb about mech stuff is a town tell because wolves don’t just blatantly open wolf by pushing terrible mech. it’s way more likely to ve from a villager who just doesn’t understand or is irrationally paranoid

so why is spf constantly trying to spin it as wolfy?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I'm going back to sleep for real now, please be kind to each other

[staypositivefriend]

spf keeps pushing people for approaching mechanics “in bad faith”

she did it to falcon and now she’s doing it to michelle

but spf knows that being irrationally stubborn and dumb about mech stuff is a town tell because wolves don’t just blatantly open wolf by pushing terrible mech. it’s way more likely to ve from a villager who just doesn’t understand or is irrationally paranoid

so why is spf constantly trying to spin it as wolfy?

to say that i "pushed" on michelle is a bit of an overstatement - i had a snap reaction to seeing how much she was clinging to the worldview of: "alison/hally have to be a wolf", and then immediately took it back

i did think that falcon pushing the dichotomy of: "we need to chop michelle/alison back to back" was wolfy and when i paired that w/the concern i already had about him from previous days, i voted him

[Hally]

i can’t push spf. i’m too scared to be wrong. i’m weak

[staypositivefriend]

you found me as a villager like a real life week ago. just trust yourself :P

[Hally]

i don’t trust anything in this game anymore, sorry. is what it is

[staypositivefriend]

top 10 anime tragedies

[KZA]

wtf,.brutal

[staypositivefriend]

can everyone in this game please name their three strongest townreads, and their preferred chop option today?

Strongest townreads: Alison, Hally, tie between Michelle and you (SPF)

Preferred choption: Tie between Esooa (scummy reactions today) and Long Con (game-long POE for me).

hmm

[fingersplints]

I see I have three votes already

Anyways, not sure if there is much point in me trying anymore. My role isn’t as important as most of yours

I am Molly Solverson. I get players to “read me a story” and hide behind them.

[BoKnows]

Long Con -> [VOTE: JPIC] aubergine

[fingersplints]

w h y is michelle still alive and able to get off peeks

is there no rb? is there no redirect? no strongman?

what. is. going. on.

Dom/Gavial had a roleblock

@Gavial [The Kitchen Brothers] has been eliminated.

" "
The Kitchen Brothers

[Passive] - The silent enforcers of the Kansas City Mob, the Kitchen Brothers do everything in pairs. They have two lives, they have 2 votes, and each night they may perform their actions twice. A day elimination consumes both lives, and the double-action doesn't affect the factional kills. If they lose a life, they will also lose their extra vote and actions.

[Passive] - The Kitchen Brothers will always clean after themselves and janitor their target if they perform the factional kill.
--- [Identical Twins] - If they perform the factional kill, they will not be seen visiting the target. [2-shots]

[Active] - Each night, the Kitchen Brothers may target a player and give them a beating. They will role-block them for the night. If they target the same player twice in a row, they will disable any passive they have the second night and drain their vote the following day.

Wincon - Eliminate all threats to the Kansas City Mafia

'Night' 3 starts.
Day 4 starts in 24 hours.

[fingersplints]

w h y is michelle still alive and able to get off peeks

is there no rb? is there no redirect? no strongman?

what. is. going. on.

Dom/Gavial had a roleblock

@Gavial [The Kitchen Brothers] has been eliminated.

" "
The Kitchen Brothers

[Passive] - The silent enforcers of the Kansas City Mob, the Kitchen Brothers do everything in pairs. They have two lives, they have 2 votes, and each night they may perform their actions twice. A day elimination consumes both lives, and the double-action doesn't affect the factional kills. If they lose a life, they will also lose their extra vote and actions.

[Passive] - The Kitchen Brothers will always clean after themselves and janitor their target if they perform the factional kill.
--- [Identical Twins] - If they perform the factional kill, they will not be seen visiting the target. [2-shots]

[Active] - Each night, the Kitchen Brothers may target a player and give them a beating. They will role-block them for the night. If they target the same player twice in a row, they will disable any passive they have the second night and drain their vote the following day.

Wincon - Eliminate all threats to the Kansas City Mafia

'Night' 3 starts.
Day 4 starts in 24 hours.

[fingersplints]

I also [VOTE: JPIC] aubergine

Self preservation and I’m not sure I believe their role claim.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I am distressingly close to tinfoiling myself onto Alison

[Strawhenge]

can everyone in this game please name their three strongest townreads, and their preferred chop option today?

Strongest townreads: Alison, Hally, tie between Michelle and you (SPF)

Preferred choption: Tie between Esooa (scummy reactions today) and Long Con (game-long POE for me).

hmm

May I help you?

[Strawhenge]

if odd is villager then he wasn't lying when he said that he swapped me and sloonei

which means that you did not peek me at any point in time

Forgive me if you've already addressed this somewhere in the thread, but if you can, please indulge me:

Imagine for a moment, even if purely hypothetically, that Odd isn't a villager. What would the play-by-play look like, throughout your interactions with him this game? Is it possible that he's scum and has manipulated you? Run us through a world where Odd is bad.

[Strawhenge]

if odd is villager then he wasn't lying when he said that he swapped me and sloonei

which means that you did not peek me at any point in time

Forgive me if you've already addressed this somewhere in the thread, but if you can, please indulge me:

Imagine for a moment, even if purely hypothetically, that Odd isn't a villager. What would the play-by-play look like, throughout your interactions with him this game? Is it possible that he's scum and has manipulated you? Run us through a world where Odd is bad.

And, specifically, if Odd is bad, who are his teammates?

[Strawhenge]

Maybe I'm blind but I'm only seeing two posts since SOD of people claiming they're voting for JPIC. Are his votes based on the fact that he claimed something similar to Long Con?

@KZA @Alison @Oddmerta