Fargo Mafia [Game Ends]

[BoKnows]

i try to talk

[KZA]

@staypositivefriend what's with the Odd vote

@Oddmerta can you confirm you received a pill? like was the word pill actually used

[Oddmerta]

You betcha, no mistaking it

[staypositivefriend]

sup

[BoKnows]

just finished my last exam

[BoKnows]

was nice

[staypositivefriend]

i'll refrain from tinfoiling michelle - she has consistently been incredibly villagery and im doubtful that she would fakeclaim in the way that she did as a wolf.

i'm considering nanook clear now too (and if he's wolf then he's played really well)

boknows has towntold less and less as the game has gone on and im wondering if he's feeling demotivated as a wolf now that there is no one on the other team to hunt for. not my first chop priority though

esooa is probably a wolf or 3p.

i'm considering hally clear for now too.

i don't consider KZA clear, but i agree that KZA should not be the priority chop today, since JPIC's claim reflects well on them.

i can not reasonably rule out the possibility of a JPIC/KZA wolf world, though.

oddmerta can be a wolf.

i still dont think that strawhenge is a wolf even though he is not outside of the wolfrange of a talented player

so, michelle/nanook/hally/strawhenge are off of the table for me right now. i would be lying if i said that i havent considered a world where one of those names is a wolf (particularly strawhenge), but if that's the case, i think there's one wolf there maximum

that leaves boknows/esooa/JPIC/oddmerta - i'm taking KZA off of the table right now because JPIC's claim "clears" them

[staypositivefriend]

imo the fact that wolves feel so hard to find implies that at least one of al_sama/ted was a wolf on the other team

or my reads are just really bad

[BoKnows]

the duality of mafia. so far today i've been described as scum hunting and I've also been told i ain't doing jack. :hmmmm:

[BoKnows]

imo the fact that wolves feel so hard to find implies that at least one of al_sama/ted was a wolf on the other team

or my reads are just really bad

i know you just did a big read thing but a trust fall would probably help. helped me make my poe.

[BoKnows]

No one to interact with

[staypositivefriend]

at what point should i worry about the fact that hally is still alive?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Not yet

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Although tbh them being alive probably isn't the best look for you

[staypositivefriend]

Although tbh them being alive probably isn't the best look for you

why's that?

[BoKnows]

is nf tonight?

[BoKnows]

Can we try to expand on our ideas instead of making a bold comment then dipping out of the thread for hours. People are going to have follow up questions. We're in the dog days of this game and communication is key. As SPF said the wolves are hard to find, and not being open about your ideas only makes them harder to find.

[Michelle]

Dead air dead town

Same like when 2 wólves are wagoned.

Hard to explain the difference

[Michelle]

KZA wagon vanished

I would flip Odd rn

[BoKnows]

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@Oddmerta
@Esooa
@Strawhenge
@staypositivefriend
@KZA
@Hally
@Justplayingitcool
@Michelle

I need averyone here to give me their top 2/3 scum reads. I'll consider anyone who fails to cooperate to be doing so in bad faith. I'm planning on making a spreadsheet to help organize this game.

My reads are: JPIC, Odd, and Esooa.

KZA is no longer in my top 3 since of the night actions.

[BoKnows]

KZA wagon vanished

I would flip Odd rn

Why odd over JPIC?

[BoKnows]

[KZA]

Can we try to expand on our ideas instead of making a bold comment then dipping out of the thread for hours. People are going to have follow up questions. We're in the dog days of this game and communication is key. As SPF said the wolves are hard to find, and not being open about your ideas only makes them harder to find.

Hot dog suit man post lol

[KZA]

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
@Oddmerta
@Esooa
@Strawhenge
@staypositivefriend
@KZA
@Hally
@Justplayingitcool
@Michelle

I need averyone here to give me their top 2/3 scum reads. I'll consider anyone who fails to cooperate to be doing so in bad faith. I'm planning on making a spreadsheet to help organize this game.

My reads are: JPIC, Odd, and Esooa.

KZA is no longer in my top 3 since of the night actions.

SPF and JPIC I guess

Maybe esooa is lying too idk

[Strawhenge]

Top scum reads for me are JPIC, Esooa, Oddmerta—in that order.

The more I think about how KZA's night actions = them being scum, the less it feels right. But still, I don't know. It really feels sensible that a scum trooper would want Alison's rolecard janitored, so if Odd were to flip green, I'd be looking at KZA.

[BoKnows]

Can we try to expand on our ideas instead of making a bold comment then dipping out of the thread for hours. People are going to have follow up questions. We're in the dog days of this game and communication is key. As SPF said the wolves are hard to find, and not being open about your ideas only makes them harder to find.

Hot dog suit man post lol

[KZA]

Isnt Odd green checked?

[KZA]

Top scum reads for me are JPIC, Esooa, Oddmerta—in that order.

The more I think about how KZA's night actions = them being scum, the less it feels right. But still, I don't know. It really feels sensible that a scum trooper would want Alison's rolecard janitored, so if Odd were to flip green, I'd be looking at KZA.

You're falling for it.

Or you're the one who killed Alison

[Strawhenge]

Isnt Odd green checked?

With all the redirection and busdriving etc going on, I've been taking Michelle's checks with a whole-ass pail of salt for a while now.

[Strawhenge]

Top scum reads for me are JPIC, Esooa, Oddmerta—in that order.

The more I think about how KZA's night actions = them being scum, the less it feels right. But still, I don't know. It really feels sensible that a scum trooper would want Alison's rolecard janitored, so if Odd were to flip green, I'd be looking at KZA.

You're falling for it.

Or you're the one who killed Alison

Falling for what?

[BoKnows]

Isn't it nice to have everyone's scum list in one place instead of going through multiple isos to find this info.

[KZA]

Top scum reads for me are JPIC, Esooa, Oddmerta—in that order.

The more I think about how KZA's night actions = them being scum, the less it feels right. But still, I don't know. It really feels sensible that a scum trooper would want Alison's rolecard janitored, so if Odd were to flip green, I'd be looking at KZA.

You're falling for it.

Or you're the one who killed Alison

Falling for what?

WIFOM

the wolves are going to pick night kills that create paranoia about townies and make them easier to vote

Janitor trooper leader = shade troopers
Leave Michelle alive = shade Michelle and her checks

[Strawhenge]

Top scum reads for me are JPIC, Esooa, Oddmerta—in that order.

The more I think about how KZA's night actions = them being scum, the less it feels right. But still, I don't know. It really feels sensible that a scum trooper would want Alison's rolecard janitored, so if Odd were to flip green, I'd be looking at KZA.

You're falling for it.

Or you're the one who killed Alison

Falling for what?

WIFOM

the wolves are going to pick night kills that create paranoia about townies and make them easier to vote

Janitor trooper leader = shade troopers
Leave Michelle alive = shade Michelle and her checks

That is a really good point, and I appreciate you bringing that up. I'm not sure how readily it has come off in this game, but in past games I classically get caught up in WIFOM until I spin out.

[BoKnows]

Where's the line between playing against the WIFOM and just being naive?

[Strawhenge]

Where's the line between playing against the WIFOM and just being naive?

Huh?

[BoKnows]

Where's the line between playing against the WIFOM and just being naive?

Huh?

With what KZA said. Wolves are strategic about their night kills, to create WIFOM. If we play against this WIFOM is there a line where we're being naive to the "obvious"?

[BoKnows]

Like we're afraid of the seemingly obvious because it's "WIFOM"

[Strawhenge]

Where's the line between playing against the WIFOM and just being naive?

Huh?

With what KZA said. Wolves are strategic about their night kills, to create WIFOM. If we play against this WIFOM is there a line where we're being naive to the "obvious"?

I think I get what you're saying, but I might still be in need of my morning tea.

[KZA]

KZA
10. KZA - KZA

Ride or Die tier
3. Nanook - if he's been scum with a vig shot this whole time then he deserves the win

17. Hally - pretty much locked mason

19. Michelle - cop, too townie for me to catch if she's somehow a wolf

Please don't be wolves tier
7. Strawhenge - Just seems too genuine and towny, even our most recent exchange felt good

4. Odd - I think there's just 2 troopers and they're both town, plus Michelle's check

21. BoKnows - has mech in his favour such as the pills existing and targeting JJJ the same night as JJJ got superkilled. Haven't felt that great about him overall.

wtf idk tier
6. Esooa - weird claim that I hope is real and I'm not really sure how to go about solving, felt towny early on, effort has dropped but that's hard to judge in this game

Remainder tier
9. Staypositivefriend - I just don't know with you. but you're getting tinfoiled. I feel like SPF has been putting out feelers for a lot of different votes lately. Recently she said "might wanna kill JPIC before KZA but idk", then she said "Esooa is either 3P or wolf for blocking me" but now she ends up on OddMerta and says he's just a wolf. SPF has also felt resistant to a JPIC wagon lately which is worth noting since I think JPIC probably gets chopped here.

18. JPIC - He could be town based on being helpful with his tracks, I don't know why a wolf tracks me 2 nights in a row, unless he's trying to make towny looking tracks because he has no choice, due to having to provide his night action in thread. I guess this is a fine vote. His biggest scumread seemed to be on BK, worth noting

[KZA]

let's try this

[VOTE: Staypositivefriend] aubergine

[KZA]

@Strawhenge how good is your wolf game?

I probably should've asked JJJ this when he was around lol

[Strawhenge]

@Strawhenge how good is your wolf game?

I probably should've asked JJJ this when he was around lol

I know it might be terribly convenient for me to say this, but it's been so long, and I so seldom pulled a scum card (like, maybe 5% of the games I ever played) that I almost don't have enough data to answer your question. In short, I'd say being Townhenge 95% of the time did give me the edge of being well-practiced town. I don't recall ever being anyone's first chop-target. Scumhenge did win exactly one game, but most of the time I would make it to early-mid to midgame before someone noticed something and got a wagon going on me. I wish I could remember particulars, but it's been a long time.

[Michelle]

KZA wagon vanished

I would flip Odd rn

Why odd over JPIC?

He doesn't post.

[BoKnows]

KZA wagon vanished

I would flip Odd rn

Why odd over JPIC?

He doesn't post.

Fair enough. His "sweet I can coast now" response still doesn't sit well with me.

PS can I have your top 3 scum please?

[Michelle]

In the day when SPF claimed a save on me and Nanook claimed a save on Hally my peek was Odd not guilty. I have mixed feelings regarding that day

I don't necessarily want to proove this peek, and probably the wolves wouldn't know my target to mix it up.

[Michelle]

KZA wagon vanished

I would flip Odd rn

Why odd over JPIC?

He doesn't post.

Fair enough. His "sweet I can coast now" response still doesn't sit well with me.

PS can I have your top 3 scum please?

It all depends on tinfoils and my tinfoils were dangerously wrong in this game

[Michelle]

I would like to know all the claimed actions rn

[BoKnows]

KZA wagon vanished

I would flip Odd rn

Why odd over JPIC?

He doesn't post.

Fair enough. His "sweet I can coast now" response still doesn't sit well with me.

PS can I have your top 3 scum please?

It all depends on tinfoils and my tinfoils were dangerously wrong in this game

3 names. All I need

[BoKnows]

I would like to know all the claimed actions rn

Nook - Vig
Odd - Bus
JPIC - Tracker
BK - Pills
Michelle - Cop
Straw - Typewriter
KZA - I forget
SPF - Idk
Esooa - Stump

[Michelle]

I would like to know all the claimed actions rn

Nook - Vig
Odd - Bus
JPIC - Tracker
BK - Pills
Michelle - Cop
Straw - Typewriter
KZA - I forget
SPF - Idk
Esooa - Stump

What's the type writer doing?

KZA has an ability who makes the actions on a player going through if that action is going to fail, if i understand correct

I wish to flip Esooa, SPF and Odd, gth