AIM Mafia [Town Wins!]

[Justplayingitcool]

Ted seems to get suspected early in every single game I have played with him. idk why that is tbh

What inspires your town read of him?

Ironically it's because people suspect him. His read on gav seems genuine and I'm not getting scummy vibes from him in our instant chat.

Ah here’s the full thing.
People suspect him in every game is NAI.
Ironically using it as a reason to TR.
Their read on me seems genuine, I mean I’d need to look more into their full case and push on me but I can see the fact you sheeped them means at least you believe it to be true. I mean if a scum chooses someone to chat with they probably also know how to go about it where they don’t come off sus to them so I think the last part he is irrelevant.

So let me just do your justification here in point detail.
-Not Wolfy
-FeelsBadFromPreviousGamesSuspectioN
-Genuine Read

Let me expand on the read then. When Ted is a wolf, he doesn't usually get wolfread that quickly i.e in Game of Champions this year. Wehn he is town, from my experience, he gets suspected very quickly.

Ted picking me is NAI because I can see him choosing me regardless of his alignment.

[Gavial]

Ted seems to get suspected early in every single game I have played with him. idk why that is tbh

What inspires your town read of him?

Ironically it's because people suspect him. His read on gav seems genuine and I'm not getting scummy vibes from him in our instant chat.

Ah here’s the full thing.
People suspect him in every game is NAI.
Ironically using it as a reason to TR.
Their read on me seems genuine, I mean I’d need to look more into their full case and push on me but I can see the fact you sheeped them means at least you believe it to be true. I mean if a scum chooses someone to chat with they probably also know how to go about it where they don’t come off sus to them so I think the last part he is irrelevant.

So let me just do your justification here in point detail.
-Not Wolfy
-FeelsBadFromPreviousGamesSuspectioN
-Genuine Read

Let me expand on the read then. When Ted is a wolf, he doesn't usually get wolfread that quickly i.e in Game of Champions this year. Wehn he is town, from my experience, he gets suspected very quickly.

Ted picking me is NAI because I can see him choosing me regardless of his alignment.

So you agree the chat is NAI?
Cool.

As for experience wise, I don’t think it’s holds too much considering 1)No ones voting Ted and 2)People improve their play/change it

[Justplayingitcool]

Ted seems to get suspected early in every single game I have played with him. idk why that is tbh

What inspires your town read of him?

Ironically it's because people suspect him. His read on gav seems genuine and I'm not getting scummy vibes from him in our instant chat.

Ah here’s the full thing.
People suspect him in every game is NAI.
Ironically using it as a reason to TR.
Their read on me seems genuine, I mean I’d need to look more into their full case and push on me but I can see the fact you sheeped them means at least you believe it to be true. I mean if a scum chooses someone to chat with they probably also know how to go about it where they don’t come off sus to them so I think the last part he is irrelevant.

So let me just do your justification here in point detail.
-Not Wolfy
-FeelsBadFromPreviousGamesSuspectioN
-Genuine Read

Let me expand on the read then. When Ted is a wolf, he doesn't usually get wolfread that quickly i.e in Game of Champions this year. Wehn he is town, from my experience, he gets suspected very quickly.

Ted picking me is NAI because I can see him choosing me regardless of his alignment.

So you agree the chat is NAI?
Cool.

As for experience wise, I don’t think it’s holds too much considering 1)No ones voting Ted and 2)People improve their play/change it

I agree picking me is NAI. What he says in the chat isn’t.

At the time tho he was being suspected because he had two votes. Second point is irrelevant because yes people can improve their play but that’s not the case here because he wouldn’t be suspected at all. Again we’re talking about in the moment and not right now.

[Justplayingitcool]

From what I remember though, there’s nothing genuine about Ted’s case
@Justplayingitcool
Can you quote what post you find genuine?

Cause like the “not doing anything” point is horrible to be considered genuine.
Scum can easily do that, it’s such a common argument plus it isn’t even true up to this point.

Im not really sure what you're asking tbh. I'm sheeping ted on the progression you had with Mac

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Get in nerds we're burying seanzie

[falcon45ca]

Seanzie? Why?

[Gavial]

From what I remember though, there’s nothing genuine about Ted’s case
@Justplayingitcool
Can you quote what post you find genuine?

Cause like the “not doing anything” point is horrible to be considered genuine.
Scum can easily do that, it’s such a common argument plus it isn’t even true up to this point.

Im not really sure what you're asking tbh. I'm sheeping ted on the progression you had with Mac

Huh? Show me!

[Gavial]

I’m still deciding my vote TBH.
Definitely not voting Mac/Esooa/TSP/Marmot
Probably not but maybe convinced to vote Sean.
As I still see him being town.
JJJ is self resolving.
Not sure about Dana.
But yeah I’m open to anyone else.

[Justplayingitcool]

From what I remember though, there’s nothing genuine about Ted’s case
@Justplayingitcool
Can you quote what post you find genuine?

Cause like the “not doing anything” point is horrible to be considered genuine.
Scum can easily do that, it’s such a common argument plus it isn’t even true up to this point.

Im not really sure what you're asking tbh. I'm sheeping ted on the progression you had with Mac

Huh? Show me!

dude, just read Ted's ISO!

[Gavial]

@Justplayingitcool

i’m also gonna go for a yolo town read on gavial

mostly because i don’t see what the agenda is with his last few questions

Thing is they said this

from your iso it appeared like you had an issue with mac being too high on town lists and you apparently town read him off of an interaction that you can’t even see with your own eyes

your progression on mac is really hard to keep track of, can you explain the whole thing?

@Gavial

If this is what you mean you know the Mac thing was originally a joke from me and Marmot but I still believe he’s only mafia with JJJ.
Town otherwise.
Pretty sure I said this to Ted before though, guess you haven’t been reading JPIC.

@tedxtr
What’s your current read on me thus far?
@Justplayingitcool
You have any non-sheep reads you want to share?

idk, i’m kind of a sucker for you not doing ~anything to advance your thread position when you’re up for getting eliminated

This is the current reason according to Ted.
They need to do a good ISO on me like I did to you JPIC.

[Gavial]

From what I remember though, there’s nothing genuine about Ted’s case
@Justplayingitcool
Can you quote what post you find genuine?

Cause like the “not doing anything” point is horrible to be considered genuine.
Scum can easily do that, it’s such a common argument plus it isn’t even true up to this point.

Im not really sure what you're asking tbh. I'm sheeping ted on the progression you had with Mac

Huh? Show me!

dude, just read Ted's ISO!

They need to read mine!

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Seanzie? Why?

His reads have barely moved since the game’s first few hours.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I’m open to other names, but I can’t be here to talk about it right now. I’ll be around later.

[falcon45ca]

Seanzie? Why?

His reads have barely moved since the game’s first few hours.

@Seanzie , you got anything to say about this?

[Marmot]

This exercise has made me marginally uncomfortable.

Someone vomiting towniness over the thread can have that effect

Jay made you some of his famous chocolate lasagna I see.

[Marmot]

Like if Ted is being genuine then he should be looking at whom has the most posts in the game.
I don’t see him doing much other then sitting in the back with a case on me on his shoulders and a pillow on his back.
That’s the only thing I see going for Ted so I’d say we both in a similar boat

I don't understand this point, why would genuine ted be looking at the player with the most posts?

[Marmot]

Ted seems to get suspected early in every single game I have played with him. idk why that is tbh

What inspires your town read of him?

Ironically it's because people suspect him. His read on gav seems genuine and I'm not getting scummy vibes from him in our instant chat.

Ah here’s the full thing.
People suspect him in every game is NAI.
Ironically using it as a reason to TR.
Their read on me seems genuine, I mean I’d need to look more into their full case and push on me but I can see the fact you sheeped them means at least you believe it to be true. I mean if a scum chooses someone to chat with they probably also know how to go about it where they don’t come off sus to them so I think the last part he is irrelevant.

So let me just do your justification here in point detail.
-Not Wolfy
-FeelsBadFromPreviousGamesSuspectioN
-Genuine Read

Let me expand on the read then. When Ted is a wolf, he doesn't usually get wolfread that quickly i.e in Game of Champions this year. Wehn he is town, from my experience, he gets suspected very quickly.

Ted picking me is NAI because I can see him choosing me regardless of his alignment.

I hate the "when he's wolf he looks town, when he's town he looks wolf" concept, but you might be right

I know he was misyeeted in MtG Mafia recently on Day 2 (and almost on Day 1), but I did have a townread on him in that game.

[Marmot]

Get in nerds we're burying seanzie

This man has ISO'd the most people, so I'll sheep it.

[VOTE: seanzie] aubergine

[Justplayingitcool]

Ted seems to get suspected early in every single game I have played with him. idk why that is tbh

What inspires your town read of him?

Ironically it's because people suspect him. His read on gav seems genuine and I'm not getting scummy vibes from him in our instant chat.

Ah here’s the full thing.
People suspect him in every game is NAI.
Ironically using it as a reason to TR.
Their read on me seems genuine, I mean I’d need to look more into their full case and push on me but I can see the fact you sheeped them means at least you believe it to be true. I mean if a scum chooses someone to chat with they probably also know how to go about it where they don’t come off sus to them so I think the last part he is irrelevant.

So let me just do your justification here in point detail.
-Not Wolfy
-FeelsBadFromPreviousGamesSuspectioN
-Genuine Read

Let me expand on the read then. When Ted is a wolf, he doesn't usually get wolfread that quickly i.e in Game of Champions this year. Wehn he is town, from my experience, he gets suspected very quickly.

Ted picking me is NAI because I can see him choosing me regardless of his alignment.

I hate the "when he's wolf he looks town, when he's town he looks wolf" concept, but you might be right

I know he was misyeeted in MtG Mafia recently on Day 2 (and almost on Day 1), but I did have a townread on him in that game.

I don't like it either but I can't help but notice the pattern!

[tedxtr]

From what I remember though, there’s nothing genuine about Ted’s case
@Justplayingitcool
Can you quote what post you find genuine?

Cause like the “not doing anything” point is horrible to be considered genuine.
Scum can easily do that, it’s such a common argument plus it isn’t even true up to this point.

i said i was a sucker for you not doing anything to advance your thread position = i think you could have odds at being town

not that you are a wolf for not doing anything

[tedxtr]

reading isn’t that hard guys cmon

[Marmot]

I'm trying to convince sean to admit that he's scum, but he won't succumb.

[tedxtr]

i have what, 20 posts, 2 big detailed posts on why i thought you were a wolf and you couldn’t even manage to quote them

instead you quote the one where i was actually saying i could be wrong and say that’s my reason for wolf reading you

[Marmot]

reading isn’t that hard guys cmon

Que leer?

[Justplayingitcool]

Let's just speak in Spanish from now on

[tedxtr]

reason #1

was it just me that thought gavial's re-entry to the thread was pretty limp

it seemed mostly okay-ish to me, is he usually stronger? lots of jokes i guess but it is still early day 1

i don't know what the usual is for him

but popping in, giving two seeming random town reads on two singular posts, making a readslist (that you can't even keep track of - he didn't say anything about his PoE'd people), and then asking one of your PoE'd people if you can sheep their vote and then leaving the thread seems about as limp as it gets

reason #2

from your iso it appeared like you had an issue with mac being too high on town lists and you apparently town read him off of an interaction that you can’t even see with your own eyes

your progression on mac is really hard to keep track of, can you explain the whole thing?

@Gavial

[tedxtr]

Let's just speak in Spanish from now on

i would love to, i don’t think it’s allowed though

[Marmot]

Eeeeeh, no hablo español

pero, puedo probar

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I have no reason to trust Gavial and am kind of shrugging along to town reads from my town reads.

Whatever happens down the line let’s ensure we keep our standards up.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

No puedo publicar en mi carro

[tedxtr]

este proyecto de ciencias de la computación me llevará toda la semana hacer

[BoKnows]

voting for [VOTE: tsp] aubergine cause I like the wagon

what do you like about it

marmot and falcon were both on it

[JaggedJimmyJay]

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[Seanzie]

[VOTE: TonyStarkPrime] aubergine

This 5-way tie reminds me of the time in grade school when we had a pushup competition in gym class and the prize was a new basketball, but five people tied for the win so our gym teacher cut the basketball into five pieces for each of the winners.

TSP pretty fucken townie man.

inb4 it's just Mac and TSP and TSP suggested that people targeting eachother D1 makes them not teamed in order to clear the pair.

[Seanzie]

I read ted's iso again and it still feels townie.

Let's try another ISO.

Marmot investigating Ted here when it is not clear there is a specific reason for it looks good for Marmot.

[Seanzie]

I read JPIC's ISO, I wish he would talk about someone other than Marmot.

JPIC has been under no pressure this game, but he's managed to manufacture reads that look good. This is something I think he struggled with in MtG Mafia, the only game I've seen him as scum. Townread here.

This reads weird though. If you're townreading JPIC, do you think he is "Manufacturing" these reads, or just giving them?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Trustfall

BoKnows - doesn't seem concerned with looking any particular way
Dana - inquisitiveness and paranoia seem authentic, as do her general efforts to stay involved
Esooa - I liked her progression on Dana
falcon45ca - I liked his progression on me
Gavial - Esooa town reads him
Justplayingitcool - I liked his opening, efforts to stay involved seem authentic
MacDougall - worked his way toward a view of the game that I find generally agreeable
Marmot - seems authentic in his efforts at teamwork without just being a parrot or yes man
Nanook - doesn't seem concerned with looking any particular way, reports about private chat seem encouraging
Seanzie - poked the bear
tedxtr - believable Gavial-centric hunt
TonyStarkPrime - initiated good idea for eliminating possible teams, private chat seems encouraging

[Seanzie]

I do find it really comical that Mac's POE consists of players that I've just ISO'd and townread.

That just means the mafia is Jay and TSP then.

I agree that Jay's town, but what do you mean by he's out of his scumrange? Aside from the fact where he seems incapable of even randing scum.

There are certain jayisms that are just indicative of him as town. I dunno, at this point I'd be stunned if I ever had a strong Jay townread that was proven wrong.

I don't know the whole history behind Jay and Mac, but I feel even a strong player like Mac would be wary of JJJ pulling the wool over his eyes. Giving a townread, sure, but saying Jay is out of his scumrange? I read that as a joke at first, but apparently it is not. wtf?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

BoKnows - doesn't seem concerned with looking any particular way
Gavial - Esooa town reads him
Seanzie - poked the bear

Weak

Justplayingitcool - I liked his opening, efforts to stay involved seem authentic
Nanook - doesn't seem concerned with looking any particular way, reports about private chat seem encouraging
tedxtr - believable Gavial-centric hunt

Weakish

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Folks should definitely believe that I am out of my "scum range". That won't benefit me in any future games at all.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

[VOTE: BoKnows] aubergine

[JaggedJimmyJay]

town are going to lose this game I've already determined

Why did you make this post?

[Dana]

In conclusion, everyone is town including the mods except for seth, who is mafia

Spoiler: show

and sean

Seth is Gavial, right? wasn't this the first pair we eliminated as teammates bc one didn't know who the other was in a past game? maybe we are getting played

[Justplayingitcool]

voting for [VOTE: tsp] aubergine cause I like the wagon

what do you like about it

marmot and falcon were both on it

what do you like about both of them?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Seth is Gavial, right? wasn't this the first pair we eliminated as teammates bc one didn't know who the other was in a past game? maybe we are getting played

I believe you're referring to ted and Seanzie. I don't think that particular point is a good reason to dissociate the two.

[Seanzie]

If I believed in scumreads I'd say that Sean's jokes about the color green he should be are unironically somewhat scummy, and that if he were town he'd be more likely to call himself mafia

Of course he'll call himself mafia as mafia too, so its not ironclad, which is why I'm not presenting this as a scumread, that and because I don't believe in scumreads. But if I did, this would be one.

I'm still waiting for that dark forest green stricker.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

falcon wagon wack

[Dana]

Seth is Gavial, right? wasn't this the first pair we eliminated as teammates bc one didn't know who the other was in a past game? maybe we are getting played

I believe you're referring to ted and Seanzie. I don't think that particular point is a good reason to dissociate the two.

Seanzie did not know that Gavial is ChopChop. Probably not the team of two.

or do you mean that Seth is ted? I'm confused

[Dana]

Folks should definitely believe that I am out of my "scum range". That won't benefit me in any future games at all.

this is concerning I hope its a joke