Double Elimination Mafia town win

[Kylemii]

I don't think Kyle's trying to spin things, I don't think he's even capable of doing that.

ok wow

[Marmot]

I'm not sure why he says our "best case send" is me & you, and that our realistic send is himself and one of me/you. I can't tell if that's b/c he thinks we're wolfy or if he things we're towny enough to find the wolves down there. He's kinda hedgy and kinda just "here".

cus i think mog is town based on his AoE and i know i'm town and you two are what's left

What do you make of the players in the loser's bracket then?

I know we have to send two people down no matter what, but I'd at least like to hope there isn't still two wolves up here and we've failed miserably.

[Marmot]

I don't think Kyle's trying to spin things, I don't think he's even capable of doing that.

ok wow

I meant this in the "I don't think Kyle would ever intentionally gaslight someone" kind of way.

[Marmot]

I can't believe I said that after Stardew Mafia...

You lied to me so many times there!!!

[Kylemii]

I don't think Kyle's trying to spin things, I don't think he's even capable of doing that.

ok wow

I meant this in the "I don't think Kyle would ever intentionally gaslight someone" kind of way.

oh. no. i only lie in the sexy-cool way.

[Kylemii]

I can't believe I said that after Stardew Mafia...

You lied to me so many times there!!!

aside from lying about being nanook and peeing my pants i don't think i ever lied in that game, i don't think i even posted anything on topic

[Kylemii]

who is in the loser's bracket? tony, tim, gman, and....?

[Marmot]

who is in the loser's bracket? tony, tim, gman, and....?

DaisyCludwfnwiufnwiefwe

[Kylemii]

ruok

[Kylemii]

tbh the other bracket is infinitely more shady than this one

[Kylemii]

well not infinitely lol

[Kylemii]

i do not remember nor have the energy to look up any of the other bracket peeps involvement in made's stuff, i feel like that would probably be important. each of tim, tony, and gman have pinged me in the past at some point, and i will probably spend night 3 looking into them. i know that's not really an answer lol. daisy cloud is likewise notable that i just don't remember them.

[Kylemii]

Marmot could be mafia but for real if he's mafia and he responded to "are you mafia" with "okay this time i'm mafia ^_^" i don't care that much if he wins cus it'll at least be funny

but also i think he'll be easy to sort out once the tribes merge.

[Kylemii]

i think the optimal choice here is me and HK

HK is either mafia and going to tier 2 gives opportunity for those guys to send it, or he's town and motivated to go after tim and tony which i think will be good for solving that area of the game, and lead to an endgame with as much to work with as possible

[Kylemii]

or HK is a secret 3rd party :0000

[Kylemii]

i just remembered the post limit. this is my reminder to my future self that i have, i think just 40 posts left

[hollowkatt]

I have about 80 posts and about 8 hours to use them in

[hollowkatt]

I haven't done any of the reading I said I'd do, just fyi

[Marmot]

What if we just force a four-way and see what the wolves do?

[hollowkatt]

What if we just force a four-way and see what the wolves do?

Ok

[Marmot]

[VOTE: Unvote HK] aubergine

There better not be two wolves in here right now. :wowee:

[Marmot]

I'm gonna go actually read the night phase now.

Also, I've got plenty of posts to spare in the event I'm sent down.

[Kylemii]

if you force a tie the wolves will save me to frame, (or if you suspect me I guess you can view it as saving me because I am wolves?)

what would you learn otherwise

[Kylemii]

I think I actually just don't like the tie idea in this circumstance? that just lets the wolves determine the shape of the endgame without acting in public

[Kylemii]

if we're doing tie strats I propose that it be a 3 way tie for second place with me @ 1st.

[Marmot]

I think I actually just don't like the tie idea in this circumstance? that just lets the wolves determine the shape of the endgame without acting in public

Sure,

I just think unless we have a really strong idea of who to send down, then we could gather more information by forcing the wolves to make a decision.

But yeah, I guess with as much mystery and lack of knowledge of optimal gameplay, maybe that's just adding too many variables for us to think about when we can just opt for a simpler approach.

[Kylemii]

I'd we allow a tie the other guys are gonna be pissed. Tim is probably reading this right now pissing his pants in anger or delight.

My tendency to post in small bite sized chunks instead of giant unreadable garbage essays that no one really reads is going to be the death of me, I just used like 5 posts to say "ties probably bad please kill me"

[Marmot]

I'd we allow a tie the other guys are gonna be pissed. Tim is probably reading this right now pissing his pants in anger or delight.

My tendency to post in small bite sized chunks instead of giant unreadable garbage essays that no one really reads is going to be the death of me, I just used like 5 posts to say "ties probably bad please kill me"

Short posts are underrated, death to wallposters!!

[Marmot]

Kyle, is tim your wolf-teammate again?

[Kylemii]

I mean the bottom line is, if this game reaches single elimination and I'm not dead or somehow widely townread the game ends in a loss. it's the same scenario as in Ants mafia except this time I don't have to argue with Alison about it.

[Kylemii]

Kyle, is tim your wolf-teammate again?

I only have one teammate and his name is Jesus Christ

prayerhandsemoji

[hollowkatt]

I kinda like the idea of putting kyle at 2 and everyone else at 1 and seeing what happens

[hollowkatt]

Kyle, is tim your wolf-teammate again?

I only have one teammate and his name is Jesus Christ

prayerhandsemoji

[Kylemii]

[VOTE: Kylemii] aubergine

and now I really gotta actually try and conserve my posts lol.

[Kylemii]

I kinda like the idea of putting kyle at 2 and everyone else at 1 and seeing what happens

it's a really bad idea but it's exciting and I do appreciate that.

[hollowkatt]

I kinda like the idea of putting kyle at 2 and everyone else at 1 and seeing what happens

it's a really bad idea but it's exciting and I do appreciate that.

real talk: Do you think you get chopped over TSP? How about over Daisy? Tim?
Like if you and I go down it'll be me, you, tim, daisy, tsp, and g-man down there.

[Marmot]

Kyle, is tim your wolf-teammate again?

I only have one teammate and his name is Jesus Christ

prayerhandsemoji

[Marmot]

Oh, that escalated quickly.

[hollowkatt]

spoiler that shit mate! lolol

[Marmot]

I kinda like the idea of putting kyle at 2 and everyone else at 1 and seeing what happens

it's a really bad idea but it's exciting and I do appreciate that.

real talk: Do you think you get chopped over TSP? How about over Daisy? Tim?
Like if you and I go down it'll be me, you, tim, daisy, tsp, and g-man down there.

We do get three chops tonight.

I hope that TSP is one of them and tim is another (we'll see if my night-read changes that, but that's where I'm at now). I'm currently flexible on the third, and it's kinda hard to figure out without being there and interacting.

[Marmot]

I kinda wanna go down now just in case we fuck it up. I hate LYLO.

Actually, I like LYLO, it's just that wolves always win when I'm alive at LYLO.

[hollowkatt]

I kinda wanna go down now just in case we fuck it up. I hate LYLO.

Actually, I like LYLO, it's just that wolves always win when I'm alive at LYLO.

Lets go you and me my furry little friend

[Marmot]

Maybe it's just Mog and Daisy and I'm being pocketed to hell and back :O

[Marmot]

That was in response to this series of posts.

I think Marmot is town.

I appreciated that he gave a list of players and where and what flips and it was colored coded.

I like that gman did something similar down here too.

don't but daisy me. I know scum can do that sort of thing, but it's nice and helpful and pro-town.

btw, that isn't the only reason I like Marmot. so don't but daisy me later

[hollowkatt]

That was in response to this series of posts.

I think Marmot is town.

I appreciated that he gave a list of players and where and what flips and it was colored coded.

I like that gman did something similar down here too.

don't but daisy me. I know scum can do that sort of thing, but it's nice and helpful and pro-town.

btw, that isn't the only reason I like Marmot. so don't but daisy me later

I'd buy it actually

[Marmot]

That was in response to this series of posts.

I think Marmot is town.

I appreciated that he gave a list of players and where and what flips and it was colored coded.

I like that gman did something similar down here too.

don't but daisy me. I know scum can do that sort of thing, but it's nice and helpful and pro-town.

btw, that isn't the only reason I like Marmot. so don't but daisy me later

I'd buy it actually

There's still the part where tim and Daisy were the only two to vote Made of the living players.

In general, I do find Daisy's play very townie. She has had a couple outbursts that take away from the productivity a little bit, but she does appear to be hunting.

Mog might be pocketing me though, but he also seemed the most interested in hunting of anyone in the WB today. Maybe that's a good reason to send him down lol.

[Marmot]

hk, what do you think of daisy and tim, and their votes for Made? Did you voice that somewhere already?

[hollowkatt]

That was in response to this series of posts.

I think Marmot is town.

I appreciated that he gave a list of players and where and what flips and it was colored coded.

I like that gman did something similar down here too.

don't but daisy me. I know scum can do that sort of thing, but it's nice and helpful and pro-town.

btw, that isn't the only reason I like Marmot. so don't but daisy me later

I'd buy it actually

There's still the part where tim and Daisy were the only two to vote Made of the living players.

In general, I do find Daisy's play very townie. She has had a couple outbursts that take away from the productivity a little bit, but she does appear to be hunting.

Mog might be pocketing me though, but he also seemed the most interested in hunting of anyone in the WB today. Maybe that's a good reason to send him down lol.

Yeah, I get that on Tim/Daisy. I like Mog as town for about the same reason you do.
I'm paranoid that you're pocketing me ngl. Could it just be Kyle/TSP?

[Kylemii]

I kinda like the idea of putting kyle at 2 and everyone else at 1 and seeing what happens

it's a really bad idea but it's exciting and I do appreciate that.

real talk: Do you think you get chopped over TSP? How about over Daisy? Tim?
Like if you and I go down it'll be me, you, tim, daisy, tsp, and g-man down there.

I mean I hope to get chopped alongside those 2 of those people.

the problem isn't anything to do with that suspicion it's that I've not really done anything to remove myself from the PoE, if we make it to the final 5 with 2 mafia alive, if even one town person thinks I'm mafia and votes as such then that's just game over, right? and despite there being only a thin case against me, there's not much of a case for me either. I can't really point to anything that I've done that I could only do as town because I've basically only been a cell phone boy for this entire game up until now, and also I guess, including now.

[hollowkatt]

hk, what do you think of daisy and tim, and their votes for Made? Did you voice that somewhere already?

I haven't said anything about that, no.
I think it looks better for them than not. This isn't the kind of setup where you can get a lot of credit for sending down a wolf as wolf. You can get more credit chopping the wolf in LB if you are a wolf I think.
I swear to god TSP has to be a wolf here, look at the vote count that chops Made