Modern Family Hydra Mafia [GAME END]

[Akemi Hazelnut]

good morning

this is my first time posting, katze has done all of it up until now, whats up

i know which posts are whose smh

[Akemi Hazelnut]

anyway good morning nerds

i dont get the votes on poop

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good morning

this is my first time posting, katze has done all of it up until now, whats up

i know which posts are whose smh

yea they're all katze and im esooa

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katze told me to ask if chloe ever gave you a rundown on her, nut

she's curious if she has to try today or not

[Akemi Hazelnut]

...what? no?

but uh you are a top wagon so yes probably try

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katze is surprised and says thats probably out of character for chloe but won't explain further

also trying is overrated and we're a top wagon for terrible reasons tbh

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in fact this entire votecount sucks

why is TaT voting obvtown seth nobodys agreed to policy the slot yet

i dont actually remember anyone explaining their vote on poop-explosions even though i kind of agree with the vote

and then three losers are voting us but we're just too powerful

what happened to the TaT wagon

[Akemi Hazelnut]

your wagon is pure

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there's like exactly one person on it i have a resemblance of a townread on

do you feel strongly about the PE read

[Akemi Hazelnut]

somewhat yes

[Akemi Hazelnut]

mac is like dgaf town mac ez
and my only meta on c4 is vienna but he's like, *miles* more solvey here

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i still feel like you're not actually *reading* their posts but whatever im going to eat breakfast and then act as if i've never scumread PE so i can weasel my way out of being executed d1, okay?

cool

cya in a bit

[Akemi Hazelnut]

i will be paranoid of them later sure as the setting sun but they are not d1 territory at all imo

[Julinook]

Nook has been slightly scum reading them (Mac) but hasn't put it in the thread yet because he doesn't feel like fighting that battle right now.

I'm off to the gym will be back a little later.

[TwoAndThrough]

Okay, Akemi Hazelnut is either town or mafia Alison has said "we need to be townread, Nutella get out there and share all these horrifically bad reads you have."

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i will be paranoid of them later sure as the setting sun but they are not d1 territory at all imo

if you're town wouldn't you be expecting to not live long enough to do this given the composition of your slot

Okay, Akemi Hazelnut is either town or mafia Alison has said "we need to be townread, Nutella get out there and share all these horrifically bad reads you have."

okay i know im literally doing it right now but this is just baseless shade smh

[Akemi Hazelnut]

Okay, Akemi Hazelnut is either town or mafia Alison has said "we need to be townread, Nutella get out there and share all these horrifically bad reads you have."

i dont have to be told to have bad reads

[TwoAndThrough]

Speaking of bad reads, I almost spit out my coffee when I saw "it was towny how Trans Rights nade that read on how the threadstate doesn't support T&T being a wolf." YES!!! That was in fact a very good threadstate read, because it's pretty obvious I have no team here...I'm stuck with town who are pretty universally playing by lame feelie reads and clueless instead of having a pack...but notice how they made this good read they are getting towncred for and NEVER MOVED THEIR VOTE. I cannot believe I have to point this out. Oh wait, I ALREADY HAVE pointed it out, repeatedly.

[TwoAndThrough]

i will be paranoid of them later sure as the setting sun but they are not d1 territory at all imo

if you're town wouldn't you be expecting to not live long enough to do this given the composition of your slot

Okay, Akemi Hazelnut is either town or mafia Alison has said "we need to be townread, Nutella get out there and share all these horrifically bad reads you have."

okay i know im literally doing it right now but this is just baseless shade smh

It was actually well founded snark and not shade at all.

[Akemi Hazelnut]

Speaking of bad reads, I almost spit out my coffee when I saw "it was towny how Trans Rights nade that read on how the threadstate doesn't support T&T being a wolf." YES!!! That was in fact a very good threadstate read, because it's pretty obvious I have no team here...I'm stuck with town who are pretty universally playing by lame feelie reads and clueless instead of having a pack...but notice how they made this good read they are getting towncred for and NEVER MOVED THEIR VOTE. I cannot believe I have to point this out. Oh wait, I ALREADY HAVE pointed it out, repeatedly.

you're once again misrepresenting what they actually said

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Nook has been slightly scum reading them (Mac) but hasn't put it in the thread yet because he doesn't feel like fighting that battle right now.

I'm off to the gym will be back a little later.

We can speak outside of the thread?

[Akemi Hazelnut]

......how else do you hydra

have you never hydraed

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

......how else do you hydra

have you never hydraed

Nope. First time

[Akemi Hazelnut]

although when you have vastly different schedules it's harder to communicate but you can leave reads for your partner etc

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i will be paranoid of them later sure as the setting sun but they are not d1 territory at all imo

if you're town wouldn't you be expecting to not live long enough to do this given the composition of your slot

Okay, Akemi Hazelnut is either town or mafia Alison has said "we need to be townread, Nutella get out there and share all these horrifically bad reads you have."

okay i know im literally doing it right now but this is just baseless shade smh

It was actually well founded snark and not shade at all.

hmmyes i will describe everything i do as snark and satire

your "slot" is kind of "wolfy", "bro" (this is snark, not shade, so you can't scumread me for it)

[trans rights]

okay i'll transition into being serious since clearly none of you know how to have fun in a light game with friends

i'm not actually sure what esooa thinks is wolfy about mana but i think c4s posting is pretty stilted and seth is firmly in "lolseth" range where i acknowledge them as probably town but still want to vote them

ill probably bury c4 by EoD if their posting is still bad and then you can acknowledge us as obvious town like we are, capiche?

okay the thing is

while poop explosions is potentially trying to save two and through, their case on me seems way more like a wrong villager than a wolf

like i think it has holes but it generally isn't a bad case, and i can't remember c4 making any push of this type of conviction in cov. like the fact that it wasn't a complete dumpster fire of a case makes me want to village read it

in comparison two and through's looks way worse

i've spectated some games where i've seen him village it up and this aligns decently with my idea of his village game

if anything i have a bigger concern of not knowing where the heck mac is. that should be the head i should have an easier time reading.

I think their case on you is probably pretty good, and I haven't really even looked at it. Your slot has done a BUNCH of stuff that could fit a wolf agenda, and consistently when asked about those things your response has NOT been "well, sure, but here is towny reasoning for why I would do those things," it has been some variation across "no we didn't do that" which in some cases has been just flat not true, or chopping accusations at the person asking the questions.

On the flip side you have this "confident wolf read" on me. When asked why it's "he did this." Okay, yeah I did that. Why would I do that as a wolf? Well, you don't seem to know, it just isn't "how you town." So I tell you how it fits in my town agenda, and you don't care or waver. Other people say "yeah it bugs me and I hate it, but Tim as town do think that way," and you don't care or waver.

So I'm good here...you attack instead of explaining your own questionable actions, and you are just settled on what was supposed to be low hanging fruit for an easy mischop and closed your mind to anything that might force you onto a harder path. You're just a wolf. Nothing personal, and I generally like wolves, so we're good.

okay hold on a moment.

show me a post where that indicated i wasn't confident in my read on you.

~mimikyu

[TwoAndThrough]

Speaking of bad reads, I almost spit out my coffee when I saw "it was towny how Trans Rights nade that read on how the threadstate doesn't support T&T being a wolf." YES!!! That was in fact a very good threadstate read, because it's pretty obvious I have no team here...I'm stuck with town who are pretty universally playing by lame feelie reads and clueless instead of having a pack...but notice how they made this good read they are getting towncred for and NEVER MOVED THEIR VOTE. I cannot believe I have to point this out. Oh wait, I ALREADY HAVE pointed it out, repeatedly.

you're once again misrepresenting what they actually said

What who said?

Trans Rights made that thread state read. There's no "misrepresentling" that. It was a very accurate read too. I think it was the main thing that dissipated the wagon on me, although I'd guess that the voters that moved on mostly didn't really understand it, they just "had a rumbly gut that told them" or some other daft "feeling" about it.

There is also no "misrepresenting" that their vote hasn't moved. I might be misrepresenting that that is wolfy AF, because this is a hydra game so it might not be wolfy at all, it could just be internal disagreement. For all I know one head is wanting to stay on me because feelies and is mad at the other head for posting such a good read.

[trans rights]

actually nvm i thought two and through's slot accused me of not having a confident read on them when they didn't actually do that

moving on

[Akemi Hazelnut]

here is the post in question

fwiw i have ~reason to believe it might not actually be two and through, mostly for game state reasons

there's been almost 0 opposition to their wagon since early on, and the only opposition that's really notable comes from poop explosions, who i don't even think is a wolf. if that's the case, the wolves probably would want to bus him, and do it well if that's the plan. otherwise what's their win con? if that's not actually the case, they're probably a villager

so the possibilities are:

1) wolves are all of the lower voices and two and through is also a wolf (lol?)
2) wolves are bussing two and through and decently hard (akemi/tspic have potential, maybe julinook but i think that's the least likely world)
3) they're actually a villager and wolves are just coasting to a misdefenestrate right now

right now i think hyena/syn and toopy and binoo are my strongest villagers. i think akemi is decently likely to be a villager as well, but there is the "nutella hasn't cleared herself aaaaaaa" line to consider. poop explosions push on me looks good in comparison to c4's play in cov where he went more utr.

world 3 is probably an early deepwolf world. we know we're a villager, so the potential is like akemi/falconknows or i'm wrong on someone. honey and villager i can't clear right now either so i'm hoping more stuff develops there. i remain unconvinced that both heads have actually posted so far lmao.

what does give me some solace for expecting a wolf flip is two and through's push onto us looks really opportunistic and as though they were just jumping onto what poop explosions suspicion was. they even pulled the "you're not even confident that i'm a wolf" card from poop explosions, which i still have no idea where that's coming from. yeah i said i thought mana/two and through contained a wolf, and i also said that mana's vote on two and through seemed not w/w in a twtbaw way, but i still can't preclude them from being together.

gonna try parsing through this.

they propose 3 worlds 2 of which suppose you as a wolf

and end with maintaining a wolf read on you


there is no question you are misrepping/exaggerating the """"gamestate read"""" in your favor

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what is up

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[VOTE: two and through ] aubergine

[TwoAndThrough]

i will be paranoid of them later sure as the setting sun but they are not d1 territory at all imo

if you're town wouldn't you be expecting to not live long enough to do this given the composition of your slot

Okay, Akemi Hazelnut is either town or mafia Alison has said "we need to be townread, Nutella get out there and share all these horrifically bad reads you have."

okay i know im literally doing it right now but this is just baseless shade smh

It was actually well founded snark and not shade at all.

hmmyes i will describe everything i do as snark and satire

your "slot" is kind of "wolfy", "bro" (this is snark, not shade, so you can't scumread me for it)

Why would I scumread you for that? I always "feel wolfy." You saying so doesn't bother me. I am perplexed by the "satire," because I am usually very direct in my snark. I think Nutella's reads are awful. I think Nutella's reads are almost always awful, so that's very much town Nutella. I threw in the comment about Alison sending her out to post her awful reads because I think that possibility has to be considered, but I'm not taking it super seriously. Wolf Nutella always gets day one caught because she doesn't fake the awful reads thing well, but with Alison as a partner that maybe can be overcome.

[Timsup2gettinserious]

Speaking of bad reads, I almost spit out my coffee when I saw "it was towny how Trans Rights nade that read on how the threadstate doesn't support T&T being a wolf." YES!!! That was in fact a very good threadstate read, because it's pretty obvious I have no team here...I'm stuck with town who are pretty universally playing by lame feelie reads and clueless instead of having a pack...but notice how they made this good read they are getting towncred for and NEVER MOVED THEIR VOTE. I cannot believe I have to point this out. Oh wait, I ALREADY HAVE pointed it out, repeatedly.

outed as lost wolf tbh

[TwoAndThrough]

here is the post in question

fwiw i have ~reason to believe it might not actually be two and through, mostly for game state reasons

there's been almost 0 opposition to their wagon since early on, and the only opposition that's really notable comes from poop explosions, who i don't even think is a wolf. if that's the case, the wolves probably would want to bus him, and do it well if that's the plan. otherwise what's their win con? if that's not actually the case, they're probably a villager

so the possibilities are:

1) wolves are all of the lower voices and two and through is also a wolf (lol?)
2) wolves are bussing two and through and decently hard (akemi/tspic have potential, maybe julinook but i think that's the least likely world)
3) they're actually a villager and wolves are just coasting to a misdefenestrate right now

right now i think hyena/syn and toopy and binoo are my strongest villagers. i think akemi is decently likely to be a villager as well, but there is the "nutella hasn't cleared herself aaaaaaa" line to consider. poop explosions push on me looks good in comparison to c4's play in cov where he went more utr.

world 3 is probably an early deepwolf world. we know we're a villager, so the potential is like akemi/falconknows or i'm wrong on someone. honey and villager i can't clear right now either so i'm hoping more stuff develops there. i remain unconvinced that both heads have actually posted so far lmao.

what does give me some solace for expecting a wolf flip is two and through's push onto us looks really opportunistic and as though they were just jumping onto what poop explosions suspicion was. they even pulled the "you're not even confident that i'm a wolf" card from poop explosions, which i still have no idea where that's coming from. yeah i said i thought mana/two and through contained a wolf, and i also said that mana's vote on two and through seemed not w/w in a twtbaw way, but i still can't preclude them from being together.

gonna try parsing through this.

they propose 3 worlds 2 of which suppose you as a wolf

and end with maintaining a wolf read on you


there is no question you are misrepping/exaggerating the """"gamestate read"""" in your favor

Go to hydra chat and see if Alison will explain to you what a gamestate read is, and then maybe have her find it in Trans Rights' ISO for you. I don't have the time or inclination.

[trans rights]

okay let me go over my thought process regarding that real quick

i thought that when two and through voted me that they voted me partially for an "unconfidence" read that was similar to poop explosions where he thought my posts didn't actually indicate a strong wolf read on two and through. because they said they never actually read poop explosions' case on me, that immediately stood out to me as potentially disingenuous on the behalf of two and through. but i rechecked that and that wasn't really why they voted us so there's no problem there

regardless they're still putting "confident" in quotation marks and that still kinda peeves me. like if poop explosions starts hard pushing the person you think is a wolf, the fact that two and through didn't actually read that case themselves is still odd to me

[Timsup2gettinserious]

i will be paranoid of them later sure as the setting sun but they are not d1 territory at all imo

if you're town wouldn't you be expecting to not live long enough to do this given the composition of your slot

Okay, Akemi Hazelnut is either town or mafia Alison has said "we need to be townread, Nutella get out there and share all these horrifically bad reads you have."

okay i know im literally doing it right now but this is just baseless shade smh

It was actually well founded snark and not shade at all.

hmmyes i will describe everything i do as snark and satire

your "slot" is kind of "wolfy", "bro" (this is snark, not shade, so you can't scumread me for it)

i love you katze

[Julinook]

Nook has been slightly scum reading them (Mac) but hasn't put it in the thread yet because he doesn't feel like fighting that battle right now.

I'm off to the gym will be back a little later.

We can speak outside of the thread?

Not even consulting with jules im locking this and the followup town

[TwoAndThrough]

Speaking of bad reads, I almost spit out my coffee when I saw "it was towny how Trans Rights nade that read on how the threadstate doesn't support T&T being a wolf." YES!!! That was in fact a very good threadstate read, because it's pretty obvious I have no team here...I'm stuck with town who are pretty universally playing by lame feelie reads and clueless instead of having a pack...but notice how they made this good read they are getting towncred for and NEVER MOVED THEIR VOTE. I cannot believe I have to point this out. Oh wait, I ALREADY HAVE pointed it out, repeatedly.

outed as lost wolf tbh

I wish.

[Julinook]

Wait actually

Hasn't tsp hydraed before

[Timsup2gettinserious]

Speaking of bad reads, I almost spit out my coffee when I saw "it was towny how Trans Rights nade that read on how the threadstate doesn't support T&T being a wolf." YES!!! That was in fact a very good threadstate read, because it's pretty obvious I have no team here...I'm stuck with town who are pretty universally playing by lame feelie reads and clueless instead of having a pack...but notice how they made this good read they are getting towncred for and NEVER MOVED THEIR VOTE. I cannot believe I have to point this out. Oh wait, I ALREADY HAVE pointed it out, repeatedly.

you're once again misrepresenting what they actually said

What who said?

Trans Rights made that thread state read. There's no "misrepresentling" that. It was a very accurate read too. I think it was the main thing that dissipated the wagon on me, although I'd guess that the voters that moved on mostly didn't really understand it, they just "had a rumbly gut that told them" or some other daft "feeling" about it.

There is also no "misrepresenting" that their vote hasn't moved. I might be misrepresenting that that is wolfy AF, because this is a hydra game so it might not be wolfy at all, it could just be internal disagreement. For all I know one head is wanting to stay on me because feelies and is mad at the other head for posting such a good read.

the only reason I'm not voting for you still is because hyena controls the vote

[Akemi Hazelnut]

here is the post in question

fwiw i have ~reason to believe it might not actually be two and through, mostly for game state reasons

there's been almost 0 opposition to their wagon since early on, and the only opposition that's really notable comes from poop explosions, who i don't even think is a wolf. if that's the case, the wolves probably would want to bus him, and do it well if that's the plan. otherwise what's their win con? if that's not actually the case, they're probably a villager

so the possibilities are:

1) wolves are all of the lower voices and two and through is also a wolf (lol?)
2) wolves are bussing two and through and decently hard (akemi/tspic have potential, maybe julinook but i think that's the least likely world)
3) they're actually a villager and wolves are just coasting to a misdefenestrate right now

right now i think hyena/syn and toopy and binoo are my strongest villagers. i think akemi is decently likely to be a villager as well, but there is the "nutella hasn't cleared herself aaaaaaa" line to consider. poop explosions push on me looks good in comparison to c4's play in cov where he went more utr.

world 3 is probably an early deepwolf world. we know we're a villager, so the potential is like akemi/falconknows or i'm wrong on someone. honey and villager i can't clear right now either so i'm hoping more stuff develops there. i remain unconvinced that both heads have actually posted so far lmao.

what does give me some solace for expecting a wolf flip is two and through's push onto us looks really opportunistic and as though they were just jumping onto what poop explosions suspicion was. they even pulled the "you're not even confident that i'm a wolf" card from poop explosions, which i still have no idea where that's coming from. yeah i said i thought mana/two and through contained a wolf, and i also said that mana's vote on two and through seemed not w/w in a twtbaw way, but i still can't preclude them from being together.

gonna try parsing through this.

they propose 3 worlds 2 of which suppose you as a wolf

and end with maintaining a wolf read on you


there is no question you are misrepping/exaggerating the """"gamestate read"""" in your favor

Go to hydra chat and see if Alison will explain to you what a gamestate read is, and then maybe have her find it in Trans Rights' ISO for you. I don't have the time or inclination.

what

that is literally the post with the gamestate read

and they decide to stay on you

just deal with it lol

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Wait actually

Hasn't tsp hydraed before

this is jpic

[Timsup2gettinserious]

i will be paranoid of them later sure as the setting sun but they are not d1 territory at all imo

if you're town wouldn't you be expecting to not live long enough to do this given the composition of your slot

Okay, Akemi Hazelnut is either town or mafia Alison has said "we need to be townread, Nutella get out there and share all these horrifically bad reads you have."

okay i know im literally doing it right now but this is just baseless shade smh

It was actually well founded snark and not shade at all.

hmmyes i will describe everything i do as snark and satire

your "slot" is kind of "wolfy", "bro" (this is snark, not shade, so you can't scumread me for it)

Why would I scumread you for that? I always "feel wolfy." You saying so doesn't bother me. I am perplexed by the "satire," because I am usually very direct in my snark. I think Nutella's reads are awful. I think Nutella's reads are almost always awful, so that's very much town Nutella. I threw in the comment about Alison sending her out to post her awful reads because I think that possibility has to be considered, but I'm not taking it super seriously. Wolf Nutella always gets day one caught because she doesn't fake the awful reads thing well, but with Alison as a partner that maybe can be overcome.

why do you rely so heavily on just outright insulting people

i guess it works. you do it every time you wolf and it usually results in you making it a couple phases further

[Julinook]

Wait actually

Hasn't tsp hydraed before

this is jpic

Yeah but

If tsp has hydraed before it doesn't make sense why you wouldn't be talking lol

[Akemi Hazelnut]

Wait actually

Hasn't tsp hydraed before

this is jpic

right but hes assuming tsp wouldve dmed you stuff by now

but tbh im not sure tsp ever has either

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Wait actually

Hasn't tsp hydraed before

this is jpic

Yeah but

If tsp has hydraed before it doesn't make sense why you wouldn't be talking lol

tsp hasn't said anything to me outside of the thread so i dunno

[Julinook]

Maybe this makes them mafia for trying to fake clear

Idk my head hurts ill figure it out later, for now they're schrodingers alignment, either lock town or outed mafia

[trans rights]

actually can people give me general thoughts on tspic real quick

i'm still revisiting old posts atm

~azumarill

[Julinook]

Wait actually

Hasn't tsp hydraed before

this is jpic

right but hes assuming tsp wouldve dmed you stuff by now

but tbh im not sure tsp ever has either

Implied in signup thread he has

[Akemi Hazelnut]

actually can people give me general thoughts on tspic real quick

i'm still revisiting old posts atm

~azumarill

i think theyve sounded genuine but nothing conclusive