Modern Family Hydra Mafia [GAME END]

[Mana]

Julinook and TPIC are my "if they're scum they earned the win tbh" reads atm

can you elaborate on the tspic read briefly?

their read of the game has been consistently closest to mine all game. I don't see a baddie angle for their actions, and they seem removed from a lot of the easy pushes of the game

Except for me thinking that you're a wolf, and still maybe do as well

okay, read my recent post, and say this again with your chest, so I know if I need to defend myself actively here or not

[Mana]

We were not given any feedback if our action failed so I assume it went through

you get feedback if it fails, so ur prob good.

[Toopy and Binoo]

We holstered yesterday

Or I should say we holstered N1

I mean you COULD say yesterday and then hard claim wolf.
(If your wolf)
-Toopy

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

i've already said before that our ability isn't alignment indicative

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

We holstered yesterday

Or I should say we holstered N1

I mean you COULD say yesterday and then hard claim wolf.
(If your wolf)
-Toopy

I hard claim town

[Toopy and Binoo]

We were not given any feedback if our action failed so I assume it went through

you get feedback if it fails, so ur prob good.

This doesn’t make sense to me.

-Toopy

[Akemi Hazelnut]

how are we actually being pushed right now? we have no idea what two and through actually was, but i think the role that janitored them was probably a wolf role. that's not really alignment indicative for them though. seriously though, either of two and through or bottom text being a wolf clears us straight up, along with being the top poster yesterday.

stop mindlessly tunneling my friend.

Why does T&T or BT being wolf clear you exactly?

BT clears them, (but BT is never scum).
T&T doesn’t clear them AT ALL.
They are talking out of a cucumber!

-Toopy

TR spent like the entirety of D1 burying TAT.

[Akemi Hazelnut]

I am hearing talk about how BT is spewed clear because they cannot be mafia with anyone else. I think if BT is a wolf their most likely partner is TSPIC. Why is that pairing ruled out?

[Mana]

We were not given any feedback if our action failed so I assume it went through

you get feedback if it fails, so ur prob good.

This doesn’t make sense to me.

-Toopy

I got feedback when my night action failed. if they didn't get feedback, there's probably didn't fail

[Toopy and Binoo]

i've already said before that our ability isn't alignment indicative

That’s true.
However, how you use your ability can be.

-Toopy

[Akemi Hazelnut]

I am also extremely unsure why TSPIC would claim target and nothing else given that there is no soupkill (a bunch of people have claimed exact roles and not died) and everyone else in the game has claimed. It's the sort of temp claim you would make to pre-emptively ward off trackers/watchers seeing you visit the dead guy while hashing out a more believable fullclaim in scum chat.

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Julinook and TPIC are my "if they're scum they earned the win tbh" reads atm

can you elaborate on the tspic read briefly?

their read of the game has been consistently closest to mine all game. I don't see a baddie angle for their actions, and they seem removed from a lot of the easy pushes of the game

Except for me thinking that you're a wolf, and still maybe do as well

okay, read my recent post, and say this again with your chest, so I know if I need to defend myself actively here or not

You have a decent point on Poop, but imo inconsistency is more of a townie look. Idk what to say to you because I think they're both villagers from posts alone.

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

I am also extremely unsure why TSPIC would claim target and nothing else given that there is no soupkill (a bunch of people have claimed exact roles and not died) and everyone else in the game has claimed. It's the sort of temp claim you would make to pre-emptively ward off trackers/watchers seeing you visit the dead guy while hashing out a more believable fullclaim in scum chat.

I have already explained. TSP didn't want us to claim yesterday when I wanted to.

I'd rather not claim but I can claim if we're being pigeonholed into this

[Toopy and Binoo]

For example: me and Binoo’s ability is 1-Shot Medium.
1-Shot Medium like most roles can go for any alignment.
But it’s how we used our ability that matters, and although we didn’t get the scum team if T&T was Scum nor did we get a full claim from them if they were Town at least we tried to use our ability to take a chance to have it pay off very rewardingly.

-Toopy

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Like I will claim if you want us to

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

i guess w!julinook using that action on w!akemi isn't impossible. i don't think bottom text/mana/tspic are unrealistic vig shots because that's the 3rd partner pool though as far as i understand, other than poop explosions i guess.

bottom text was the counterwagon

mana had heavy suspicion for a decent amount of the day, and also accounts for the lol scenario of julinook/akemi/mana claiming all of these actions as wolves together which seems pretty ridiculous

and the walrus voiced suspicion on tspic.

Walrus died because they claimed vig

[Mana]

For example: me and Binoo’s ability is 1-Shot Medium.
1-Shot Medium like most roles can go for any alignment.
But it’s how we used our ability that matters, and although we didn’t get the scum team if T&T was Scum nor did we get a full claim from them if they were Town at least we tried to use our ability to take a chance to have it pay off very rewardingly.

-Toopy

where are you on the T&T scum/not scum debate right now btw?

[Mana]

I am hearing talk about how BT is spewed clear because they cannot be mafia with anyone else. I think if BT is a wolf their most likely partner is TSPIC. Why is that pairing ruled out?

it's not in my POE, it's one of the only possibility left tbh.

[Mana]

I am hearing talk about how BT is spewed clear because they cannot be mafia with anyone else. I think if BT is a wolf their most likely partner is TSPIC. Why is that pairing ruled out?

it's not in my POE, it's one of the only possibility left tbh.

It's not from my pov***
probably makes more grammatical sense

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Do people want us to claim or not

[Mana]

Do people want us to claim or not

ur the only one who can figure out if claiming here helps town or nah

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Do people want us to claim or not

ur the only one who can figure out if claiming here helps town or nah

Well, if we're going to get yeeted because town decided for some reason to mass claim and we're the only ones left to claim then I'd rather town doesn't mindlessly yeet us for it. So, if nobody is going to tell us to then I'm just not going to claim

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

But I will claim if everybody in town wants us to

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

hmmm, mana not thinking we're a wolf when they could ride the wolf reads on us is a decent look?

@Mana - why don't you think we're wolves?

[Mana]

hmmm, mana not thinking we're a wolf when they could ride the wolf reads on us is a decent look?

@Mana - why don't you think we're wolves?

Tone/train of thought is all I got which is why you're firmly in my POE. Most of my read on you has to do with lack of reasons you're not scum, so if your role and it's usage seems pro town that could change quickly to a town read. I supposed the opposite could happen too...hmm. Oh well, life's a risk dog, let's have fun!

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

hmmm, mana not thinking we're a wolf when they could ride the wolf reads on us is a decent look?

@Mana - why don't you think we're wolves?

Tone/train of thought is all I got which is why you're firmly in my POE. Most of my read on you has to do with lack of reasons you're not scum, so if your role and it's usage seems pro town that could change quickly to a town read. I supposed the opposite could happen too...hmm. Oh well, life's a risk dog, let's have fun!

So your PoE is:

Poop
either BT or TR
and TPIC

What was your read on T&T? Do you think they were mafia or town.

[Mana]

hmmm, mana not thinking we're a wolf when they could ride the wolf reads on us is a decent look?

@Mana - why don't you think we're wolves?

Tone/train of thought is all I got which is why you're firmly in my POE. Most of my read on you has to do with lack of reasons you're not scum, so if your role and it's usage seems pro town that could change quickly to a town read. I supposed the opposite could happen too...hmm. Oh well, life's a risk dog, let's have fun!

So your PoE is:

Poop
either BT or TR
and TPIC

What was your read on T&T? Do you think they were mafia or town.

as a complete picture, I think it's more likely T&T was scum, but it's a fiction built on itself. T&T is scum because there's not a lot of 3 person team combos that make sense and BT did weird votes around the end of the day that looked sus... but also BT's action look sus because it's most likely T&T were scum which means it's unlikely scum is still a full team.

All the threads are pointing to this conclusion for me, so probably just scum. Also, the whole "you only kill one person today, and then win the Mylo with the lovers kill being optimal strat" thing. Also some toop and boop stuff.

[Toopy and Binoo]

i guess w!julinook using that action on w!akemi isn't impossible. i don't think bottom text/mana/tspic are unrealistic vig shots because that's the 3rd partner pool though as far as i understand, other than poop explosions i guess.

bottom text was the counterwagon

mana had heavy suspicion for a decent amount of the day, and also accounts for the lol scenario of julinook/akemi/mana claiming all of these actions as wolves together which seems pretty ridiculous

and the walrus voiced suspicion on tspic.

Walrus died because they claimed vig

They never hard claimed it, they just softed it.

-Toopy

[Toopy and Binoo]

hmmm, mana not thinking we're a wolf when they could ride the wolf reads on us is a decent look?

@Mana - why don't you think we're wolves?

Tone/train of thought is all I got which is why you're firmly in my POE. Most of my read on you has to do with lack of reasons you're not scum, so if your role and it's usage seems pro town that could change quickly to a town read. I supposed the opposite could happen too...hmm. Oh well, life's a risk dog, let's have fun!

So your PoE is:

Poop
either BT or TR
and TPIC

What was your read on T&T? Do you think they were mafia or town.

If you looked they said your scum if T&T was Town.

[Toopy and Binoo]

-Toopy

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

What happened to the claimed bodyguard btw

wasn't that Poop?

Si

who did you target yesterday?

AH

Why TF would AH ever be the NK?
Who did you target N1?

mindmeld @TonyStarkPlaysItCool help us figure out who the wolf is between Ake and Poop. Something ain't right here

I think it's alison but mac says it's not and unless it's mac AND alison I'm gonna let it be and pin it on him if it goes south

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Poop.
Give me New Solve Plz.

-Toopy

GTH mine would be Mana/Tony/Julinook or TR/AH/Julinook or Poop

Uh
GtH
Mana tr TAT?

Seems farfetched but I could totally see both hk and Tim signing up to eat a bus from van. Mostly just not seeing a ton of options left.

I could see TR/Nanook/Tony

Maybe we go TR today?

-Toopy

What if I told you whatever you did to get there is likely flawed because TSPIC is town and Julinook will probably still be town once I actually reeval them?

What if I told you it’s irrelevant what you think because nothing can change the fact 10 players got a green card and 3 players got a red card and none of these players can get a new one.

-Toopy

i so wanna call this tmi

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

hmmm, mana not thinking we're a wolf when they could ride the wolf reads on us is a decent look?

@Mana - why don't you think we're wolves?

Tone/train of thought is all I got which is why you're firmly in my POE. Most of my read on you has to do with lack of reasons you're not scum, so if your role and it's usage seems pro town that could change quickly to a town read. I supposed the opposite could happen too...hmm. Oh well, life's a risk dog, let's have fun!

So your PoE is:

Poop
either BT or TR
and TPIC

What was your read on T&T? Do you think they were mafia or town.

as a complete picture, I think it's more likely T&T was scum, but it's a fiction built on itself. T&T is scum because there's not a lot of 3 person team combos that make sense and BT did weird votes around the end of the day that looked sus... but also BT's action look sus because it's most likely T&T were scum which means it's unlikely scum is still a full team.

All the threads are pointing to this conclusion for me, so probably just scum. Also, the whole "you only kill one person today, and then win the Mylo with the lovers kill being optimal strat" thing. Also some toop and boop stuff.

Yes, so if we go on the assumption that T&T was scum then TR is probably never mafia with how they just buried that slot for no reason. I think BT does have some partner equity there because as far as I remember they thought T&T was a 3p which I don't really get why they think that. In regards to Poop, I have not looked too deeply into the mech, so reads > mech, and from posts alone I think poop is villagering.

[Toopy and Binoo]

Poop.
Give me New Solve Plz.

-Toopy

GTH mine would be Mana/Tony/Julinook or TR/AH/Julinook or Poop

Uh
GtH
Mana tr TAT?

Seems farfetched but I could totally see both hk and Tim signing up to eat a bus from van. Mostly just not seeing a ton of options left.

I could see TR/Nanook/Tony

Maybe we go TR today?

-Toopy

What if I told you whatever you did to get there is likely flawed because TSPIC is town and Julinook will probably still be town once I actually reeval them?

What if I told you it’s irrelevant what you think because nothing can change the fact 10 players got a green card and 3 players got a red card and none of these players can get a new one.

-Toopy

i so wanna call this tmi

Anything else and it’ll be unbalanced.
(Unless you add a Survivor or something)

-Toopy

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

i guess w!julinook using that action on w!akemi isn't impossible. i don't think bottom text/mana/tspic are unrealistic vig shots because that's the 3rd partner pool though as far as i understand, other than poop explosions i guess.

bottom text was the counterwagon

mana had heavy suspicion for a decent amount of the day, and also accounts for the lol scenario of julinook/akemi/mana claiming all of these actions as wolves together which seems pretty ridiculous

and the walrus voiced suspicion on tspic.

Walrus died because they claimed vig

They never hard claimed it, they just softed it.

-Toopy

If nobody saw that post and didn't think that was not near enough a claim then they are deluded

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

hmmm, mana not thinking we're a wolf when they could ride the wolf reads on us is a decent look?

@Mana - why don't you think we're wolves?

Tone/train of thought is all I got which is why you're firmly in my POE. Most of my read on you has to do with lack of reasons you're not scum, so if your role and it's usage seems pro town that could change quickly to a town read. I supposed the opposite could happen too...hmm. Oh well, life's a risk dog, let's have fun!

So your PoE is:

Poop
either BT or TR
and TPIC

What was your read on T&T? Do you think they were mafia or town.

If you looked they said your scum if T&T was Town.

I'm not talking to you

[Toopy and Binoo]

hmmm, mana not thinking we're a wolf when they could ride the wolf reads on us is a decent look?

@Mana - why don't you think we're wolves?

Tone/train of thought is all I got which is why you're firmly in my POE. Most of my read on you has to do with lack of reasons you're not scum, so if your role and it's usage seems pro town that could change quickly to a town read. I supposed the opposite could happen too...hmm. Oh well, life's a risk dog, let's have fun!

So your PoE is:

Poop
either BT or TR
and TPIC

What was your read on T&T? Do you think they were mafia or town.

as a complete picture, I think it's more likely T&T was scum, but it's a fiction built on itself. T&T is scum because there's not a lot of 3 person team combos that make sense and BT did weird votes around the end of the day that looked sus... but also BT's action look sus because it's most likely T&T were scum which means it's unlikely scum is still a full team.

All the threads are pointing to this conclusion for me, so probably just scum. Also, the whole "you only kill one person today, and then win the Mylo with the lovers kill being optimal strat" thing. Also some toop and boop stuff.

Yes, so if we go on the assumption that T&T was scum then TR is probably never mafia with how they just buried that slot for no reason. I think BT does have some partner equity there because as far as I remember they thought T&T was a 3p which I don't really get why they think that. In regards to Poop, I have not looked too deeply into the mech, so reads > mech, and from posts alone I think poop is villagering.

TR wasn’t voting them though?
And BT WAS voting T&T.

[Toopy and Binoo]

-Toooooopy Out!


I gtg to my work shift now!

[trans rights]

tspic, have you used your action(s) this game? for what possible reason could you have to hide it? does your role conflict with anyone else’s?

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Someone give me an argument that Toopy and Binoo are town plz thx.

the tim impersonation

[trans rights]

for the record i tried voting two and through on d1 but i’m used to :01 deadlines from mu as opposed to :00 deadlines

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

afaik the townreads on tspic looks kinda meh. maybe he struggles with wolfing but i don't perceive any of his posts to be unfakeable for a wolf.

plus i think their slot wolfreading us for the mafia theory read is borderline ~never real because the reason they provided doesn't correlate with us being a wolf

i don't have time for this
actually i really don't I have to get to class I'll be back soon

[trans rights]

also mac a majority of my slot’s posts have been made by me, vanity. usually mist is signing as something as well.

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

tspic, have you used your action(s) this game? for what possible reason could you have to hide it? does your role conflict with anyone else’s?

For kicks

[Mana]

hmmm, mana not thinking we're a wolf when they could ride the wolf reads on us is a decent look?

@Mana - why don't you think we're wolves?

Tone/train of thought is all I got which is why you're firmly in my POE. Most of my read on you has to do with lack of reasons you're not scum, so if your role and it's usage seems pro town that could change quickly to a town read. I supposed the opposite could happen too...hmm. Oh well, life's a risk dog, let's have fun!

So your PoE is:

Poop
either BT or TR
and TPIC

What was your read on T&T? Do you think they were mafia or town.

as a complete picture, I think it's more likely T&T was scum, but it's a fiction built on itself. T&T is scum because there's not a lot of 3 person team combos that make sense and BT did weird votes around the end of the day that looked sus... but also BT's action look sus because it's most likely T&T were scum which means it's unlikely scum is still a full team.

All the threads are pointing to this conclusion for me, so probably just scum. Also, the whole "you only kill one person today, and then win the Mylo with the lovers kill being optimal strat" thing. Also some toop and boop stuff.

Yes, so if we go on the assumption that T&T was scum then TR is probably never mafia with how they just buried that slot for no reason. I think BT does have some partner equity there because as far as I remember they thought T&T was a 3p which I don't really get why they think that. In regards to Poop, I have not looked too deeply into the mech, so reads > mech, and from posts alone I think poop is villagering.

Poop is also partial to that theory

Don't really think Tim flails like that and fails self-pres so badly if he's a self-janitoring wolf. He could just try and chop a townie, and not have to worry about spew because self-janitor. Kinda liking that 3p theory.

[Mana]

hmmm, mana not thinking we're a wolf when they could ride the wolf reads on us is a decent look?

@Mana - why don't you think we're wolves?

Tone/train of thought is all I got which is why you're firmly in my POE. Most of my read on you has to do with lack of reasons you're not scum, so if your role and it's usage seems pro town that could change quickly to a town read. I supposed the opposite could happen too...hmm. Oh well, life's a risk dog, let's have fun!

So your PoE is:

Poop
either BT or TR
and TPIC

What was your read on T&T? Do you think they were mafia or town.

as a complete picture, I think it's more likely T&T was scum, but it's a fiction built on itself. T&T is scum because there's not a lot of 3 person team combos that make sense and BT did weird votes around the end of the day that looked sus... but also BT's action look sus because it's most likely T&T were scum which means it's unlikely scum is still a full team.

All the threads are pointing to this conclusion for me, so probably just scum. Also, the whole "you only kill one person today, and then win the Mylo with the lovers kill being optimal strat" thing. Also some toop and boop stuff.

Yes, so if we go on the assumption that T&T was scum then TR is probably never mafia with how they just buried that slot for no reason. I think BT does have some partner equity there because as far as I remember they thought T&T was a 3p which I don't really get why they think that. In regards to Poop, I have not looked too deeply into the mech, so reads > mech, and from posts alone I think poop is villagering.

TR wasn’t voting them though?
And BT WAS voting T&T.

TR and BT both ended the day with votes on T&T

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

Did somebody make the read BT, Poop & TR's claims can't coexist together or am I missing something

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

hmmm, mana not thinking we're a wolf when they could ride the wolf reads on us is a decent look?

@Mana - why don't you think we're wolves?

Tone/train of thought is all I got which is why you're firmly in my POE. Most of my read on you has to do with lack of reasons you're not scum, so if your role and it's usage seems pro town that could change quickly to a town read. I supposed the opposite could happen too...hmm. Oh well, life's a risk dog, let's have fun!

So your PoE is:

Poop
either BT or TR
and TPIC

What was your read on T&T? Do you think they were mafia or town.

as a complete picture, I think it's more likely T&T was scum, but it's a fiction built on itself. T&T is scum because there's not a lot of 3 person team combos that make sense and BT did weird votes around the end of the day that looked sus... but also BT's action look sus because it's most likely T&T were scum which means it's unlikely scum is still a full team.

All the threads are pointing to this conclusion for me, so probably just scum. Also, the whole "you only kill one person today, and then win the Mylo with the lovers kill being optimal strat" thing. Also some toop and boop stuff.

Yes, so if we go on the assumption that T&T was scum then TR is probably never mafia with how they just buried that slot for no reason. I think BT does have some partner equity there because as far as I remember they thought T&T was a 3p which I don't really get why they think that. In regards to Poop, I have not looked too deeply into the mech, so reads > mech, and from posts alone I think poop is villagering.

Poop is also partial to that theory

Don't really think Tim flails like that and fails self-pres so badly if he's a self-janitoring wolf. He could just try and chop a townie, and not have to worry about spew because self-janitor. Kinda liking that 3p theory.

You have got my attention.

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

But then again, they're voting together rn, so they probably might not be w/w

[TonyStarkPlaysItCool]

I think toopy & binoo are always a different alignment to T&T. I agree with my partners read in regards to the Tim impersonation, it seemed way too on point to have faked. Using a medium ability on Tim/HK is pretty villagery thing to do when they've just been janitored and trying to get some spew. I'm trying to think of a reason why mafia would ever use that ability on town/mafia that they've just janitored and I'm drawing a blank - unless they just wanted to get some cred, but the impersonation does work in their favour. It's possible it's W/W but I think you have to jump through a lot of hoops to get there, and I don't really see it tbh. In sort, I think T&B are a villager and T&T was a wolf.