Bluey: The Werewolf Game - Game Thread (Game Over- Mafia win)

[Long Con]

LC imma be honest i dont think ur reads are like well founded in good faith - like why is Gavial scum here?

like i say this as I dont want to have to defend you from people eager to lim a slot that is playing poorly and want to in fact help you not play poorly here and cooperate with town and good faith hunt rather than push people who are >rand town lol

What do you mean by "good faith"? I think he could be scum. I thought so earlier, and his zaniness seems too forced.

[TonyStarkPrime]

spf what is ur read on me

gth? town. i don't really know yet, though. it's too early

I think it’s fairly easy to get a pretty strong read there even at this point in thread, right? What’s the reason for caution?

What is your gth reads on everyone then? Most people have a decent amount of content. Should be fairly easy to get a pretty strong read, right?

Not everyone’s throwing a tantrum about Nanook. If more people were doing it it’d be nice tbh

[TonyStarkPrime]

Vote finger

[Long Con]

spf what is ur read on me

gth? town. i don't really know yet, though. it's too early

I think it’s fairly easy to get a pretty strong read there even at this point in thread, right? What’s the reason for caution?

What is your gth reads on everyone then? Most people have a decent amount of content. Should be fairly easy to get a pretty strong read, right?

Not everyone’s throwing a tantrum about Nanook. If more people were doing it it’d be nice tbh

What's the point or that? It's just what Nanook wants us to do.

[TonyStarkPrime]

Nah the gav translator thing is probably towny?

[fingersplints]

spf what is ur read on me

gth? town. i don't really know yet, though. it's too early

I think it’s fairly easy to get a pretty strong read there even at this point in thread, right? What’s the reason for caution?

What is your gth reads on everyone then? Most people have a decent amount of content. Should be fairly easy to get a pretty strong read, right?

Not everyone’s throwing a tantrum about Nanook. If more people were doing it it’d be nice tbh

What did this have to do with nanook?

[Long Con]

Nah the gav translator thing is probably towny?

What is the gav translator thing?

[TonyStarkPrime]

spf what is ur read on me

gth? town. i don't really know yet, though. it's too early

I think it’s fairly easy to get a pretty strong read there even at this point in thread, right? What’s the reason for caution?

What is your gth reads on everyone then? Most people have a decent amount of content. Should be fairly easy to get a pretty strong read, right?

Not everyone’s throwing a tantrum about Nanook. If more people were doing it it’d be nice tbh

What's the point or that? It's just what Nanook wants us to do.

Yeah it makes reading people easier. But if you did it you’d be a wolf so don’t try it

[DkKoba]

LC imma be honest i dont think ur reads are like well founded in good faith - like why is Gavial scum here?

like i say this as I dont want to have to defend you from people eager to lim a slot that is playing poorly and want to in fact help you not play poorly here and cooperate with town and good faith hunt rather than push people who are >rand town lol

What do you mean by "good faith"? I think he could be scum. I thought so earlier, and his zaniness seems too forced.

or that could just be their personality...

[DkKoba]

I don't scumread finger, I think their perspective is town. I don't think being wrong means u are scum, in fact having a slightly flawed viewpoint can be town indicative in the way that it shows you are uninformed.

[Long Con]

LC imma be honest i dont think ur reads are like well founded in good faith - like why is Gavial scum here?

like i say this as I dont want to have to defend you from people eager to lim a slot that is playing poorly and want to in fact help you not play poorly here and cooperate with town and good faith hunt rather than push people who are >rand town lol

What do you mean by "good faith"? I think he could be scum. I thought so earlier, and his zaniness seems too forced.

or that could just be their personality...

Yeah, that could be. You seem to know. Do you know too much? You seem to know I'm town and that gavial's town. [VOTE: dkkoba] aubergine

[TonyStarkPrime]

spf what is ur read on me

gth? town. i don't really know yet, though. it's too early

I think it’s fairly easy to get a pretty strong read there even at this point in thread, right? What’s the reason for caution?

What is your gth reads on everyone then? Most people have a decent amount of content. Should be fairly easy to get a pretty strong read, right?

Not everyone’s throwing a tantrum about Nanook. If more people were doing it it’d be nice tbh

What did this have to do with nanook?

I implied that I thought spf should have a stronger read on Koba. The reason I implied that I thought this was because of Koba’s interaction with Nanook

[TonyStarkPrime]

LC imma be honest i dont think ur reads are like well founded in good faith - like why is Gavial scum here?

like i say this as I dont want to have to defend you from people eager to lim a slot that is playing poorly and want to in fact help you not play poorly here and cooperate with town and good faith hunt rather than push people who are >rand town lol

What do you mean by "good faith"? I think he could be scum. I thought so earlier, and his zaniness seems too forced.

or that could just be their personality...

Yeah, that could be. You seem to know. Do you know too much? You seem to know I'm town and that gavial's town. [VOTE: dkkoba] aubergine

Chill buddy even I know that much and I’ve read 70 percent of the thread

[Long Con]

Ok, cool. [VOTE: unvote] aubergine

[DkKoba]

like i dont like to assume everyone has the same level of accuracy that the best players might have - some like me are slow starters. some are super good in the beginning and falter later. some just are pretty decent throughout. and some are just average and thats ok, it helps spice up the game. lets read around it and win, though, and avoid common town mistakes like targeting people fo elimination being wrong, inflammatory, or having a different personality, as long as they are showing any sort of effort to solve we should be trying to read their motivation.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Test

[Long Con]

[VOTE: nanook] aubergine

[fingersplints]

I understand tsp. I still would like a few more reads from you when you get a moment. I appreciate you just finished a test

How longer left til EOD

[Dyslexicon]

i have no issue with voting you if you dont produce any reads in the next 20-30 minutes.

You hounding people who don't have the time to be around or are slower in their process if having a negative effect. Try to find a different way to reach out to the ones you want more from, is my tip.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Oh good I can post again

Tsp has successfully pocketed me

[Long Con]

Oh good I can post again

Tsp has successfully pocketed me

Were you mechanically silenced?

[Dyslexicon]

I think it’s a bad vote maybe but he feels a little subdued here maybe. By the esooa test of Gav he’s currently failing.

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[DkKoba]

@Dyslexicon
@Marmot
@Alison
@falcon45ca

have not seen these names in a while

also uh just realized we are in a 13p setup i forgot this was a MS setup with MS balance.. LMAO

[DkKoba]

we have 30 minutes.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Oh good I can post again

Tsp has successfully pocketed me

Were you mechanically silenced?

No I was having issues with the site

[DkKoba]

im probably content settling on falcon based on how they pinged me when they voted me but i dont like how little info there is for this dayphase.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I’m gonna give you a GTH list actually finger

Alison W
DkKoba T
Dyslexicon W
falcon45ca T
Fingersplints T
Gavial T
Hollowkatt T
Invictius T
Long Con T
Marmot W
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME T
Staypositivefriend W
tonystarkprime T

[fingersplints]

Thank you.

What is MS?

[Long Con]

also uh just realized we are in a 13p setup i forgot this was a MS setup with MS balance.. LMAO

What does that mean?

[DkKoba]

I’m gonna give you a GTH list actually finger

Alison W
DkKoba T
Dyslexicon W
falcon45ca T
Fingersplints T
Gavial T
Hollowkatt T
Invictius T
Long Con T
Marmot W
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME T
Staypositivefriend W
tonystarkprime T

much appreciated +1

[DkKoba]

also uh just realized we are in a 13p setup i forgot this was a MS setup with MS balance.. LMAO

What does that mean?

means i townslipped bc i thought it was a 15p yeehaw

[hollowkatt]

yay i get to defend myself!

Marmot sheeps him there, Gavial comments on the marmot post asking why marmot is sheeping. Instead of waiting/allowing marmot to answer invictus jumps in, asks if marmot doesn't sheep, then asks gavial if it means anything to him.

i didn't care about marmot's answer, i cared about what gavial was saying. i lack patience, which can be a bad thing, but if i have a question im not going to wait especially if i find the initial reasoning non-existent.

[quote[He wants to know why I said that, and then immediately says he's town and asks me if I think he should vote marmot why/why not. This doesn't feel like a townie exchange to me, it's like a gish gallop almost. Spew a few things out and move on while I have to process what he's looking for and continue presenting arguments if I think there's anything of value there

If he's town why doesn't he want to actually engage there with what I'm thinking instead of immediately pressing on whether or not he should be voting marmot."

i asked because saying there's 2 scum in there is kinda useless and if that's the case then surely if i think im town youd want me to go after the other player because if there's a scum in 2 people and you know you're town then why wouldn't the conclusion be that i should go after person B.

Still circling around that same exchange, functionally, only this time it's Alison that he's engaging with. I'm not sure what to make of this, gavial at the time was, well gavial. I've only ever seen gavial town so I have no idea if his wolf game is similar to his town game or not.
I think it's reasonable to ask why marmot is sheeping and don't see how that's an insane thing to be asking.

His early game has quite a few posts where he asks questions and then moves on, as if he doesn't really care about the answer to the question, just that he's asked it and it looks good.
Nothing there is truly wolf indicative, but it's not reading townie to me.

the sheeping comment was utterly useless. it's 2 votes when nothing is happening so yes it is kinda silly to question why it's happening that early on in the game when wagons is the way to progression.

as far as questions going nowhere, some don't...but mostly for this game. i have a rather spectacular memory, i ask questions to see your answer. if you're town this game and you answered then when we play in another game i have a reference point to use against you if you're suddenly not being consistent with your behaviour or the way youre conducting yourself.

this also helps late game if people are being inconsistent in terms of behaviour or reads, which again is useful.

if you think a question should have to go somewhere immediately that's rather short term play.

I don't make teams, especially not this early. It feels like his defense here of my suspicion on them is "but look at all the other people who think I'm town". Most of the time D1 isn't about finding a wolf, it's about eliminating the most wolfy person you find. I dunno, I had good feelings for a while from his mid-day stuff and now I'm back to "this guy isn't super townie and I kinda want him dead again"

day 1 is about finding town and establishing a groundwork that other town can use for late game. whether town utilizes that information is up to them, but i like having things to reference and seeing if town makes towny progressions if they're just being opportunistic.

in regards to alison, i wasnt really sus of her earlier on, but i did like her having 3 early town reads because again i think it's important to establish a quality town core and typically speaking, players looking to do that are good in my books. she has since dropped way off so it's not as meaningful.
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a'ight then
talk to me about Long Con

[DkKoba]

Thank you.

What is MS?

mafiascum, that forum mafia site that is older than some mafia players.

[Long Con]

also uh just realized we are in a 13p setup i forgot this was a MS setup with MS balance.. LMAO

What does that mean?

means i townslipped bc i thought it was a 15p yeehaw

That's not much of a townslip.

[DkKoba]

also uh just realized we are in a 13p setup i forgot this was a MS setup with MS balance.. LMAO

What does that mean?

means i townslipped bc i thought it was a 15p yeehaw

That's not much of a townslip.

im pretty sure its a townslip(def no bias xd) but i mean u can feel free to discred me, it shows a position you are taking on my statement

[TonyStarkPrime]

I think it’s a bad vote maybe but he feels a little subdued here maybe. By the esooa test of Gav he’s currently failing.

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The Esooa test (I think it’s from esooa) is that gav is readable based on how many people openly want to policy him vs actually think he’s a wolf. In this game, Gav is not about to get himself policied, ergo, wolf. It’s uh. A questionable strategy. I think gav is town for other reasons but he also scumtells pretty significantly when he’s a wolf so best left alone for now IMO

[hollowkatt]

Invictus, dizzy, hk, spf, falcon all town


I'm going back to hibernation now, more reads in 2-4 business days

Read on dizzy and HK seems question mark I agree on the others

normally I'd say anyone who has a solid read on me D1 is a fool or a liar but I don't think nanook is either

[fingersplints]

Also thank you to TSP. Interesting GTH reads. I haven’t heard much suspicion on spf, and most talk has been townie, so I’m particularly interested in that read. I think her posts have been ok but not necessarily solid town read for me yet, as I think she is a good player and could easily fake that level of contribution

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Voting lc is totally uninspiring but I tr falcon so

[Marmot]

30 minutes left, we got work to do.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Invictus, dizzy, hk, spf, falcon all town


I'm going back to hibernation now, more reads in 2-4 business days

Read on dizzy and HK seems question mark I agree on the others

normally I'd say anyone who has a solid read on me D1 is a fool or a liar but I don't think nanook is either

I have solid reads on you sometimes

[TonyStarkPrime]

It’d be easier to do that town slip as a wolf

[DkKoba]

i havent actually properly parsed gav's posts but like nothing has stood out as egregious or bad idk why ppl would want to policy there?

[Marmot]

I say we, as if I've done anything

[DkKoba]

It’d be easier to do that town slip as a wolf

i mean while im still clearly biased, better mafia players tend to take townslips at face value and bin a player as town rather than be contrarian and assume they are faking as scum...

[DkKoba]

Invictus, dizzy, hk, spf, falcon all town


I'm going back to hibernation now, more reads in 2-4 business days

Read on dizzy and HK seems question mark I agree on the others

normally I'd say anyone who has a solid read on me D1 is a fool or a liar but I don't think nanook is either

do u enjoy flipping scum?

[fingersplints]

Probably an unpopular opinion, but I don’t believe in town slips. I think most townslips are something mafia could easily fake for townie cred.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

It’d be easier to do that town slip as a wolf

i mean while im still clearly biased, better mafia players tend to take townslips at face value and bin a player as town rather than be contrarian and assume they are faking as scum...

If only you'd actually townslipped

[DkKoba]

i dont feel spf has played this game with an agenda thus far and so im leaning town in her direction although her lack of presence at EoD concerns me although i do understand she does have a newish job of which i dont know the details of when she is at it

[Long Con]

I don't know why anyone would try to call out their own townslip, it looks forced and fake every time. [VOTE: dkkoba] aubergine