Bluey: The Werewolf Game - Game Thread (Game Over- Mafia win)

[Dyslexicon]

Like there's some nebulous kinda vague "maybe plat was trying to pocket" stuff but I don't see anything jn their interactions that makes me go "yeah these two are never partners," especially on dizzy's end, they're just kinda flaccid stuff

That's fine. But I did have the same reads, roughly, and we pushed in the same direction. Pretty much tandem. I did it out of my own reads and took it as encouragement that Plat had the same thoughts (cause I thought he was town). That happened naturally, I didn't see Plat as scum. I don't think I ever line myself up that close with a teammate, especially when the situation is we know each other but nobody else knows him. I really just thought he should be town here, and this is very much how we work when we are both town (which has been almost every game we've played together).

[Dyslexicon]

HK on the other hand has a back and forth i think is unlikely to be teamed, knowing hk

So I'm still keeping him clear

Alright, good. I'll take this then. I honestly wasn't sure, cause I thought HK likes to distance pretty hard. But also, that seems a bit unnecessary, and I know Plat doesn't like to bus unless he needs to, and probably wouldn't want HK to do it to him. So probably town. Didn't read their back and forth, but I will at some point.

[Dyslexicon]

why is invictius/dizzy specifically w/v pocketing and not w/w buddying

Maybe you could try to figure that out?

[Dyslexicon]

I think the team is INVIC/Alison/Marmot
If one of Alison/Marmot is town it’s probably Syn but eh.

I actually agree with Gavial. We have taken a big turn. Also, you're name is pink, which I'm a bit jealous of.

[Dyslexicon]

invictius would know the roles handed out by wolves, he claims vig hoping to out the vig he knows exists. nanook playing like there's no vig in play is a derp, but it's fine b/c he's most likely town

Yes and yes. And hollow firmly town to me too now.

[Dyslexicon]

Vig is usually negative utility for town

Especially in this playerlist

Another reason to TR lc btw he'd be at risk from a vig shot

So if mafia chose vig, mafia consider themselves a strong team. Which doesn't give us much, cause Plat would consider them a strong team just from him being on it lol. But yeah.

[Dyslexicon]

Wait, I don't know if they choose or if they just know what roles town get.

[Dyslexicon]

Wait, I don't know if they choose or if they just know what roles town get.

Yeah, they get to pick. So self considered strong team then.

[Dyslexicon]

Nah, spf is town, cause it makes sense that Plat would try to out all pts and find some kind of glory in that. If spf was a teammate, her doing the fake outing would render Plat's fishing useless. I also believe spf wouldn't town read Plat first thing on D1 if they were scum together.

Hollow town, Nanook town, LC town. I don't get why Tony is cleared, but he's likely town from trying to distract away from two possible town meets (Falcon and LC) last phase, cause he wouldn't have to do that as scum. Depending on how much scum was threatened, but yeah.

Marmot is probably scum tbh. And could definitely be Alison too. I don't love Alison going for lhf Falcon when she said she could've read him if he stayed in the game. And I didn't love her play overall. I'll check interactions with Plat later, but I think Alison called him town after some other people had done it.

Interaction stuff later. Good job, Gavial. And well played, Plat. You passed me for sure.

[Dyslexicon]

Wait, I have a reason for why Alison is scum here. More on that later.

[Gavial]

@Marmot
Come play!
Or Scum Claim!

IK your lurkin!

[Gavial]

Honestly I think this is a pure wagon.
@staypositivefriend
If you join on it then it’ll be completely pure.

(Because I honestly believe it’s just Alison/Marmot after this)

[Marmot]

@Marmot
Come play!
Or Scum Claim!

IK your lurkin!

I'm here, but I saw your tracker claim

[VOTE: Invictius] aubergine


If I claim scum will you go easy on me?

[Gavial]

@Marmot
Come play!
Or Scum Claim!

IK your lurkin!

I'm here, but I saw your tracker claim

[VOTE: Invictius] aubergine


If I claim scum will you go easy on me?

You saw it but you didn’t say anything and lurked instead.
Nice!

Yes if you claim scum we will all vote you tomorrow and If you let me live I’ll only post Marmot Pictures with some other pictures with em.

[Marmot]

Nah, spf is town, cause it makes sense that Plat would try to out all pts and find some kind of glory in that. If spf was a teammate, her doing the fake outing would render Plat's fishing useless. I also believe spf wouldn't town read Plat first thing on D1 if they were scum together.

Hollow town, Nanook town, LC town. I don't get why Tony is cleared, but he's likely town from trying to distract away from two possible town meets (Falcon and LC) last phase, cause he wouldn't have to do that as scum. Depending on how much scum was threatened, but yeah.

Marmot is probably scum tbh. And could definitely be Alison too. I don't love Alison going for lhf Falcon when she said she could've read him if he stayed in the game. And I didn't love her play overall. I'll check interactions with Plat later, but I think Alison called him town after some other people had done it.

Interaction stuff later. Good job, Gavial. And well played, Plat. You passed me for sure.

I didn't care for it either, which is why I looked into Long Con as a potential save attempt from her. But I came away townreading Long Con, so if she's scum, she probably didn't have much incentive to make that move.

That said, I'm a still slightly torn on Long Con, because fingersplints isn't the kill I would've expected, and Long Con is the first person I would think to do that.

[Marmot]

@Marmot
Come play!
Or Scum Claim!

IK your lurkin!

I'm here, but I saw your tracker claim

[VOTE: Invictius] aubergine


If I claim scum will you go easy on me?

You saw it but you didn’t say anything and lurked instead.
Nice!

Yes if you claim scum we will all vote you tomorrow and If you let me live I’ll only post Marmot Pictures with some other pictures with em.

I literally just saw it, I didn't see it earlier lol

[Marmot]

invictius would know the roles handed out by wolves, he claims vig hoping to out the vig he knows exists. nanook playing like there's no vig in play is a derp, but it's fine b/c he's most likely town

Yes and yes. And hollow firmly town to me too now.

I agree with this, but for other reasons.

[Gavial]

invictius would know the roles handed out by wolves, he claims vig hoping to out the vig he knows exists. nanook playing like there's no vig in play is a derp, but it's fine b/c he's most likely town

Yes and yes. And hollow firmly town to me too now.

I agree with this, but for other reasons.

Wanna share em?

[Marmot]

invictius would know the roles handed out by wolves, he claims vig hoping to out the vig he knows exists. nanook playing like there's no vig in play is a derp, but it's fine b/c he's most likely town

Yes and yes. And hollow firmly town to me too now.

I agree with this, but for other reasons.

Wanna share em?

Not right now.

[Gavial]

Reeeeee.
How dare you!

[Marmot]

He said something earlier in the game that makes me firmly believe he's town, but I don't want to talk about it at this moment.

[Gavial]

He said something earlier in the game that makes me firmly believe he's town, but I don't want to talk about it at this moment.

You trying to pocket HW?

[Marmot]

He said something earlier in the game that makes me firmly believe he's town, but I don't want to talk about it at this moment.

You trying to pocket HW?

Me!? I would never.

[Marmot]

Yeah, Invictius is never the vig here. Shooting fingersplints imo is not a good selection.

I'm glad that's easy for me to believe, it means that Gav is telling the truth.

[Dyslexicon]

That said, I'm a still slightly torn on Long Con, because fingersplints isn't the kill I would've expected, and Long Con is the first person I would think to do that.

Why?
And doesn't Plat wanting to chop LC D1 weigh that out?

[Marmot]

That said, I'm a still slightly torn on Long Con, because fingersplints isn't the kill I would've expected, and Long Con is the first person I would think to do that.

Why?
And doesn't Plat wanting to chop LC D1 weigh that out?

fingersplints and Long Con have been playing together for over a decade iirc, presumably to the point where they can eventually read each other pretty well in a game.

But yeah, the point about Plat does counter that idea.

[Gavial]

Yeah, Invictius is never the vig here. Shooting fingersplints imo is not a good selection.

I'm glad that's easy for me to believe, it means that Gav is telling the truth.

Well no shit, they scum claimed.
You been reading?

[Syn]

why is invictius/dizzy specifically w/v pocketing and not w/w buddying

Maybe you could try to figure that out?

and read D1?

I'd rather be scum-read

[Syn]

Yeah, Invictius is never the vig here. Shooting fingersplints imo is not a good selection.

I'm glad that's easy for me to believe, it means that Gav is telling the truth.

lol

[Marmot]

Yeah, Invictius is never the vig here. Shooting fingersplints imo is not a good selection.

I'm glad that's easy for me to believe, it means that Gav is telling the truth.

Well no shit, they scum claimed.
You been reading?

Oh, I didn't see the CC.

I dunno why spf CC'd it, we were probably yeeting Invictius no matter what today.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Like there's some nebulous kinda vague "maybe plat was trying to pocket" stuff but I don't see anything jn their interactions that makes me go "yeah these two are never partners," especially on dizzy's end, they're just kinda flaccid stuff

That's fine. But I did have the same reads, roughly, and we pushed in the same direction. Pretty much tandem. I did it out of my own reads and took it as encouragement that Plat had the same thoughts (cause I thought he was town). That happened naturally, I didn't see Plat as scum. I don't think I ever line myself up that close with a teammate, especially when the situation is we know each other but nobody else knows him. I really just thought he should be town here, and this is very much how we work when we are both town (which has been almost every game we've played together).

Sure, I mean, I dont think it implicates you and I'm not that interested in killing you, i just don't think it clears you!

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

@Marmot
Come play!
Or Scum Claim!

IK your lurkin!

Please don't do this stuff

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Yeah, Invictius is never the vig here. Shooting fingersplints imo is not a good selection.

I'm glad that's easy for me to believe, it means that Gav is telling the truth.

I mean he did literally out so

Not much wiggle room lol

[hollowkatt]

Like there's some nebulous kinda vague "maybe plat was trying to pocket" stuff but I don't see anything jn their interactions that makes me go "yeah these two are never partners," especially on dizzy's end, they're just kinda flaccid stuff

That's fine. But I did have the same reads, roughly, and we pushed in the same direction. Pretty much tandem. I did it out of my own reads and took it as encouragement that Plat had the same thoughts (cause I thought he was town). That happened naturally, I didn't see Plat as scum. I don't think I ever line myself up that close with a teammate, especially when the situation is we know each other but nobody else knows him. I really just thought he should be town here, and this is very much how we work when we are both town (which has been almost every game we've played together).

Sure, I mean, I dont think it implicates you and I'm not that interested in killing you, i just don't think it clears you!

What makes me think dizzy is town is his willingness to directly engage with people and answer direct questions. I don't see him doing much in the way of obfuscation

[hollowkatt]

feels like he's playing a shirtsleeves game

[Syn]

feels like he's playing a shirtsleeves game

bro you're banned from MU how can you be bringing new lingo to the table

what is a shirtsleeves game

[hollowkatt]

feels like he's playing a shirtsleeves game

bro you're banned from MU how can you be bringing new lingo to the table

what is a shirtsleeves game

MU doesn't deserve me.
A shirtsleeves game is where someone is just playing transparent, as in If you wear your heart on your sleeve, you openly show your feelings or emotions rather than keeping them hidden only here he's wearing his thoughts on his sleeve therefore shirtsleeves game

[Syn]

bold of you to think dizzy is wearing a shirt

[hollowkatt]

bold of you to think dizzy is wearing a shirt

I notice there's no comment on that MU doesn't deserve me
Dizzy strikes me as the kind of person who would wear sleeves without a shirt whenever possible

[Gavial]

Yeah, Invictius is never the vig here. Shooting fingersplints imo is not a good selection.

I'm glad that's easy for me to believe, it means that Gav is telling the truth.

Well no shit, they scum claimed.
You been reading?

Oh, I didn't see the CC.

I dunno why spf CC'd it, we were probably yeeting Invictius no matter what today.

Yeah but then they retracted.

[Gavial]

feels like he's playing a shirtsleeves game

bro you're banned from MU how can you be bringing new lingo to the table

what is a shirtsleeves game

MU doesn't deserve me.
A shirtsleeves game is where someone is just playing transparent, as in If you wear your heart on your sleeve, you openly show your feelings or emotions rather than keeping them hidden only here he's wearing his thoughts on his sleeve therefore shirtsleeves game

MU does deserve me if it ever would like to unban me!

[hollowkatt]

feels like he's playing a shirtsleeves game

bro you're banned from MU how can you be bringing new lingo to the table

what is a shirtsleeves game

MU doesn't deserve me.
A shirtsleeves game is where someone is just playing transparent, as in If you wear your heart on your sleeve, you openly show your feelings or emotions rather than keeping them hidden only here he's wearing his thoughts on his sleeve therefore shirtsleeves game

MU does deserve me if it ever would like to unban me!

have you tried being in a truth telling clique? I hear they like that

[Long Con]

Nah, spf is town, cause it makes sense that Plat would try to out all pts and find some kind of glory in that. If spf was a teammate, her doing the fake outing would render Plat's fishing useless. I also believe spf wouldn't town read Plat first thing on D1 if they were scum together.

Hollow town, Nanook town, LC town. I don't get why Tony is cleared, but he's likely town from trying to distract away from two possible town meets (Falcon and LC) last phase, cause he wouldn't have to do that as scum. Depending on how much scum was threatened, but yeah.

Marmot is probably scum tbh. And could definitely be Alison too. I don't love Alison going for lhf Falcon when she said she could've read him if he stayed in the game. And I didn't love her play overall. I'll check interactions with Plat later, but I think Alison called him town after some other people had done it.

Interaction stuff later. Good job, Gavial. And well played, Plat. You passed me for sure.

I didn't care for it either, which is why I looked into Long Con as a potential save attempt from her. But I came away townreading Long Con, so if she's scum, she probably didn't have much incentive to make that move.

That said, I'm a still slightly torn on Long Con, because fingersplints isn't the kill I would've expected, and Long Con is the first person I would think to do that.

I still see fingersplints as the old friend who didn't play Mafia for years, and has only just recently come back. I would most likely not consider killing her on night 1 for that reason.

[Gavial]

LC Prob Town

[Dyslexicon]

Sure, I mean, I dont think it implicates you and I'm not that interested in killing you, i just don't think it clears you!

[Dyslexicon]

bold of you to think dizzy is wearing a shirt

[Dyslexicon]

I notice there's no comment on that MU doesn't deserve me
Dizzy strikes me as the kind of person who would wear sleeves without a shirt whenever possible

Accurate.

[Dyslexicon]

One of the reasons I think it's Invictus/Alison:

The whole exchange around "Does Invictus know Dizzy" feels very fabricated to me, and not something Alison would naturally investigate in the manner she does.

Has Invictius played with Dizzy before?

@Invictius Have you played with Dyslexicon before?

Prods with two questions (apparently from Invi's RVS vote on me).

Link?

to my last game with them?

Yes obviously.

the condescending tone is palpable, nice ot meet you too

https://www.mafiacafe.net/forum/standar ... #post20390


^im undercover platypus

Condescending tone was not intentional. If I intend to condescend to you it will be extremely obvious.

Then she asks if Plat can post to a game where we played together. Not sure why she would ask this tbh, since a yes/no-answer should suffice as an answer to her question about whether Plat knows me or not.

I can't seem to search on that site and the UI is unusable so please summarize Dizzy's alignment and what he did before dying.

Why does this question exist? This is totally pointless. Why would Invictus have to prove what my alignment was and what I was doing in a game we played together in order to answer whether we have played or not?

This whole line of questioning seems to just exist to plant that Alison doesn't know anything about Invictus and is totally unfamiliar.

I'll give a light townread to Invictius if he knows Dizzy since I don't think anyone who knows Dizzy would be inclined to choose him as the random bandwagon Day 1 target.

Well, at least not in a game this size. In larger games maybe, since he'd be more inclined to slank early, but Dizzy is good at projecting town in smaller games.

Also, the conclusion makes no sense either. I was never a bandwagon. In fact, Invictus was the first lone vote on me. Not a bandwagon. And it was early page 1 random ass RVS. This is not "mafia trying to make me a thing, but they can't, since I'm good at projecting town". Alison's whole argument makes no sense here. What I'm getting from this is that Alison is saying that Invictus could be mafia trying to "make me a bandwagon" (which is questionable in itself, cause it was one lone vote on D1), but then she turns it into a town thing, because "Invictus would know I'm not easily bandwagoned on D1 since I'm good at projecting town". There's several mistakes here. First of all, it was completely meaningless RVS and not a bandwagon vote trying to make anything stick that would threaten me. And second, she assumed me town here and she also assumes Invictus as scum (but then turns it around).

The whole thing just rubs me all the wrong ways. It's a meaningless line to take. It creates distance between them in the form of "Alison is not familiar with Invictus". She asks for a game and everything and asks Invictus to summarise my play in it, which is totally meaningless to the point she's trying to make. It's all wrong to me.

I hope this made sense. It definitely does in my head, but I'm not sure if I explained it well. Would like thoughts.

[Dyslexicon]

I keep calling Invictius Plat, cause that's what I know him as. Sorry about that.

[Syn]

[insert monocle emoji here]