The Elder Scrolls [GAME OVER]

[Timsup2nothin]

So who's all cleared?

Kza and Syn seem mech cleared to me. If they live too long gotta look into it but for now.

[Kylemii]

Falcon/DaisyCloud/Flanders/Jack/Quin


Probably not all scum the more I think of it but probably contains at least 2, so this is your best bet SK. Please don’t allow scum to clean sweep that’s garbage.

sorry if you explain this later, but why these 5?

[Syn]

i wonder why marmot disappeared again after I pointed out what he was doing

[Syn]

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

come back

[lost monkey]

DC's last minute pop-in before EOD does not sit well with me. Totally reeks of scum trying to distance themselves from a TP lynch.

Why would DC if scum make such a bad distancing move?

[lost monkey]

Falcon outing himself as Mafia for us, very kind

You're welcome

You know Daisy's vote ended on Seanzie still, right? How is that distancing?

No, I did not know that. Is there egg on my face?


What's her rationale behind her EOD posts then?

I'm gonna guess she thought Seanzie claimed but then saw he didn't and put her vote back

you know like, exactly what she said?

Actually I think he did claim...in a vague way and way too late. When he flipped it was understandable why he did not full claim in a good timely fashion. I didn't like that Daisy slipped her vote off silently, but her reasoning seemed okay when she explained it so...meh.

Would her vote being there or not being there made a difference to the lynch? I feel daisy had been very townie before this and I don't think as scum she needed to this at all. I think falcon is reaching here on this.

[lost monkey]

Also, RIP, sorry Seanzie.

They said it was a ladder
But what on earth could be sadder
Than an obvious lie
Then this predictable cry?
Took me a full one post to catch him
It’s time for us to [VOTE: Tim] aubergine

Why?

[Jackofhearts2005]

Marmot do you have any current thoughts and not just quotes of things that happened twenty pages ago where you say things that were already said by three other people

This case is suck
This sheep is yuck
Doing this all the time
Wasted on in front of me wine

Why you make such blanket untrue statements Syn?

Is there something specific you want my opinion on?

I have no intention of giving you the answer, no. You're certainly capable enough of coming up with something yourself.

I don't like your original post. It's the second time this game you've backhanded me this game, and I don't see the issue here. If you want my thoughts on something, I'll give them to you. I have been posting my thoughts. I don't see a problem with responding to something that came from pages ago, I'm not going to completely ignore everything that's not the last two pages. If three other people have already said the same thing? I don't really know that if I'm in the middle of catching up.

I'd prefer if you could address the concerns you have specifically. Do you have an issue with people responding to something from earlier in the thread? Or is it that it's already been talked about?

just like the first time you said this, it's not a backhand if I am directly addressing you

the issue is that you're saying nothing new

you're safely uninvolved in the discourse

you have no stakes in the conversation if you're just rehashing things already addressed long ago

it distracts from the current and forces everyone to redo the past

marmot is posting and replying to people! well, no, not really. marmot is looking at things that happened before and has just rewritten a few replies made by other people to project the image of confrontation and involvement.

Okay, sure.

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

[Kylemii]

SK’s probably Tim/BoKnows/Long Con

same questio

[Jackofhearts2005]

Marmot do you have any current thoughts and not just quotes of things that happened twenty pages ago where you say things that were already said by three other people

Why you make such blanket untrue statements Syn?

Is there something specific you want my opinion on?

I have no intention of giving you the answer, no. You're certainly capable enough of coming up with something yourself.

I don't like your original post. It's the second time this game you've backhanded me this game, and I don't see the issue here. If you want my thoughts on something, I'll give them to you. I have been posting my thoughts. I don't see a problem with responding to something that came from pages ago, I'm not going to completely ignore everything that's not the last two pages. If three other people have already said the same thing? I don't really know that if I'm in the middle of catching up.

I'd prefer if you could address the concerns you have specifically. Do you have an issue with people responding to something from earlier in the thread? Or is it that it's already been talked about?

just like the first time you said this, it's not a backhand if I am directly addressing you

the issue is that you're saying nothing new

you're safely uninvolved in the discourse

you have no stakes in the conversation if you're just rehashing things already addressed long ago

it distracts from the current and forces everyone to redo the past

marmot is posting and replying to people! well, no, not really. marmot is looking at things that happened before and has just rewritten a few replies made by other people to project the image of confrontation and involvement.

Okay, sure.

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Ebwop

This case is suck
This sheep is yuck
Doing this all the time
Wasted on in front of me wine

[Kylemii]

And I hope they slay the mafia and you keep the alive to do so, because you guys aren’t doing that great finding mafia when you keep throwing shit at meZ

robert downy jr tropic thunder gif

[Kylemii]

On Gavials claim - why then? Way to early for a townie to claim and expose his power to the maf. He wasn't even being pressured that hard and it kinda seems more like a wolf desperate for everyone to just fuck off.

And then spend the rest of the day on the defensive and firing oddball sus everywhere.

@Gavial
Who do you town read? You've made no mention.

was gavial in danger enough to need to hail mary like that?

[KZA]

I'm probably not voting Marmot over the guy who randomly brought up 3Ps and threw out half the player list in random bursts as suspects with 0 reasoning

[Kylemii]

hail mary is a term from football, where a team makes a big desperate move by throwing the ball really far or soemthing

[Kylemii]

in case you didn't know

[Timsup2nothin]

Falcon outing himself as Mafia for us, very kind

You're welcome

You know Daisy's vote ended on Seanzie still, right? How is that distancing?

No, I did not know that. Is there egg on my face?


What's her rationale behind her EOD posts then?

I'm gonna guess she thought Seanzie claimed but then saw he didn't and put her vote back

you know like, exactly what she said?

Actually I think he did claim...in a vague way and way too late. When he flipped it was understandable why he did not full claim in a good timely fashion. I didn't like that Daisy slipped her vote off silently, but her reasoning seemed okay when she explained it so...meh.

Would her vote being there or not being there made a difference to the lynch? I feel daisy had been very townie before this and I don't think as scum she needed to this at all. I think falcon is reaching here on this.

Yeah that was my feeling as well. I don't think the reaching is particularly wolfy though, and overall I think Falcon is town. Lean town anyway.

[Kylemii]

football is a sport

[KZA]

Falcon reaching is typically NAI, it's just part of how he hunts

[KZA]

football is a sport

Prove it

[Syn]

Marmot do you have any current thoughts and not just quotes of things that happened twenty pages ago where you say things that were already said by three other people

Why you make such blanket untrue statements Syn?

Is there something specific you want my opinion on?

I have no intention of giving you the answer, no. You're certainly capable enough of coming up with something yourself.

I don't like your original post. It's the second time this game you've backhanded me this game, and I don't see the issue here. If you want my thoughts on something, I'll give them to you. I have been posting my thoughts. I don't see a problem with responding to something that came from pages ago, I'm not going to completely ignore everything that's not the last two pages. If three other people have already said the same thing? I don't really know that if I'm in the middle of catching up.

I'd prefer if you could address the concerns you have specifically. Do you have an issue with people responding to something from earlier in the thread? Or is it that it's already been talked about?

just like the first time you said this, it's not a backhand if I am directly addressing you

the issue is that you're saying nothing new

you're safely uninvolved in the discourse

you have no stakes in the conversation if you're just rehashing things already addressed long ago

it distracts from the current and forces everyone to redo the past

marmot is posting and replying to people! well, no, not really. marmot is looking at things that happened before and has just rewritten a few replies made by other people to project the image of confrontation and involvement.

Okay, sure.

[VOTE: Marmot] aubergine

Ebwop

This case is suck
This sheep is yuck
Doing this all the time
Wasted on in front of me wine

ur face is suck

[Timsup2nothin]

I'm probably not voting Marmot over the guy who randomly brought up 3Ps and threw out half the player list in random bursts as suspects with 0 reasoning

If I thought "I am not gonna be back before EoD" right now I would probably leave my vote on Made or Gavail...but Syn's prodding of Marmot seems well reasoned and I'll give it some juice to see where it goes.

Jack doing zero to solve is starting to look suss. Just a note for future town.

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

sorry i got lost in the gif and forgot what i was doing and should have included a question mark as well, what do you mean by overcooked @Stupid Sexy Flanders

That it went on too long and wasn't satisfying for anyone.
At the time I was getting a w/w vibe because despite the annoying length of argument for everyone watching, neither of you seemed to get all that frustrated with each other.
And they're was a playful tone in a bunch of daisy's posts.

I think it's possible Mac could be mafia and falsifying a restriction because he visited a shrine and saw a bunch of townies there.

what does this part mean?

Thought I prefaced that statement by saying it was tinfoil, or maybe that was later in the post. Regardless, tinfoil was clearly mentioned in that post, but you seem to willingly omit that part I'm your quote of my post.

Now why would someone do that?

[Timsup2nothin]

football is a sport

Prove it

<checks ESPN>

yeah they definitely cover it

[KZA]

I'm probably not voting Marmot over the guy who randomly brought up 3Ps and threw out half the player list in random bursts as suspects with 0 reasoning

If I thought "I am not gonna be back before EoD" right now I would probably leave my vote on Made or Gavail...but Syn's prodding of Marmot seems well reasoned and I'll give it some juice to see where it goes.

Jack doing zero to solve is starting to look suss. Just a note for future town.

I understand he's stuck in poetry but I'm patiently waiting for Jack reads that aren't "Tim wolf"

[Timsup2nothin]

I'm probably not voting Marmot over the guy who randomly brought up 3Ps and threw out half the player list in random bursts as suspects with 0 reasoning

If I thought "I am not gonna be back before EoD" right now I would probably leave my vote on Made or Gavail...but Syn's prodding of Marmot seems well reasoned and I'll give it some juice to see where it goes.

Jack doing zero to solve is starting to look suss. Just a note for future town.

I understand he's stuck in poetry but I'm patiently waiting for Jack reads that aren't "Tim wolf"

Yeah. Not a priority right now but hopefully he gets over it and starts sooner or later.

His "Tim wolf" read is mostly based on the first time I played with him he introduced himself as "the unchoppable" and I promptly got him chopped, most likely.

[Syn]

Give Jack a break, he isn't a grizzled veteran of CFC's Rhyme Mafia like Tim and I are

[lost monkey]

Falcon reaching is typically NAI, it's just part of how he hunts

Will keep that in mind.

[Kylemii]

daisycloud is town now, i think

[Long Con]

So we've got Kza, Syn and TSP essentially cleared.

I think it's possible Mac could be mafia and falsifying a restriction because he visited a shrine and saw a bunch of townies there. But thats some tinfoil so I'm gonna keep him in the town pile.
He line strikes BK, so, guess BK is tp.

Kza
Syn
TSP
Mac
BK

Tim could just be fooling me, but he feels towny. Same kinda goes for quin and Scotty. Both feel towny.

Falc is a bit of a puzzle rn. Maybe it's just I havent played with him for a while, but his style does feel different. Still gotta town side him for now.

Enrique
Long Con
Marmot
Occupy that awkward, uneasy null space

Jack and nachomamma scum leaning.

PoE

Kyle
Daisy
Monkey
Made
Gavial

Thats where I'm at.

This is a scummy post

You start by admitting the possibility of Mac being bad, but then directly contradict it by saying it’s tinfoily, and putting him in your town pile, even though you have an awkward null space.

What does “line strike” mean? And when did Mac do that to BK?

It actually reads like towny LL to me.

What is towny LL?

Why perform well when you can rand some overly towny power and clear someone

Congress of Vienna type KZA

Well played!!!

I am actually extremely jealous here but trying to hide it.

You got a check, at random. That is more powerful than anything I saw on any other card. What do you make of Gavail's claim that he has access to a tracker shrine AND a watcher shrine? Does that seem plausible?

well you can potentially buy stuff if what you say is true. I'm thinking artifacts and such? ifk how that would work but you would buy actions? roles? abilities? if im understanding your role correctly it seems op too.

if you look at Sloonei's opening post. he explained that there is a cool down to visit a shrine. so players can visit multiple shrines. also some artifacts do different things depending 9n which faction has it.

I'm sorry if anything I said is stuff you already know.

idk if what Gavial is saying is true. what I don't like is he. made a claim but with only a little pressure. iirc he softed early day 2. I don't get why he did that. if he was/is town and does have these nite actions, then why not clear himself in other ways? was the sus from you and the teeny handful of others thst intimidating?

if he is a wolf it was good play done in a bad way.

I don't see him getting resolved. if he isn't lynched then going forward if he is wolf he can hedge by hemming and hawing thst he was rbed in some way or "forced to visit a different shrine" etc. if he isn't lynched and he is town, wolves will provide nk him or rb him or whatever. if he isn't nk he be potentially up for chopping block again.

If I collect enough I can buy a health potion that will protect me from a night kill. At the current rate I will be able to buy that for night ten. I will have to decide between that and an "ebony paralysis dart" that is a one time role block...but that decision is very far away so I am not giving it much thought. If I had gone to the Sheogorath shrine and made four sales lat night instead of one maybe I would be feeling a little OP...but as it stands I am feeling pretty vanilla.

Do you wanna try and set something up?

So you too are in the "no info on what shrines do what" category. There seem to be a whole lot of varieties in this role business. Post game gonna be really interesting.

I went to Hircine, thinking I might get a track or something, but instead I got ghosted.

[Timsup2nothin]

Give Jack a break, he isn't a grizzled veteran of CFC's Rhyme Mafia like Tim and I are

Not learning from past mistakes I also played a Haiku mafia.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Falcon, Kyle, Kza and Mac are town, of that I’m pretty sure
Tim makes bad pushes, his try is weak, dishonest to the core
Marmot is low hanging fruit, Syn, he’s just that way.
Same likely goes Made and Gavil. Weird, not scum I say.

[Syn]

So you too are in the "no info on what shrines do what" category. There seem to be a whole lot of varieties in this role business. Post game gonna be really interesting.

I went to Hircine, thinking I might get a track or something, but instead I got ghosted.

Interesting. I suspect this is where Gavial went to get his claimed track, then.

Only one ability of a kind doled out per night?

But that wouldn't jive with the Sheogorath results.

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

On Gavials claim - why then? Way to early for a townie to claim and expose his power to the maf. He wasn't even being pressured that hard and it kinda seems more like a wolf desperate for everyone to just fuck off.

And then spend the rest of the day on the defensive and firing oddball sus everywhere.

@Gavial
Who do you town read? You've made no mention.

was gavial in danger enough to need to hail mary like that?

Pretty sure they only had two or three votes, and it was super early D2.
Claiming in that situation makes little sense for town.

[Timsup2nothin]

Do you wanna try and set something up?

No because I am afraid there may be wolves with powers based on the same kind of "more people at the shrine you visit the better" mechanics and setting something up that they could just join in on might do us more harm than whatever little good I could actually do if I "get rich quick."

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

So we've got Kza, Syn and TSP essentially cleared.

I think it's possible Mac could be mafia and falsifying a restriction because he visited a shrine and saw a bunch of townies there. But thats some tinfoil so I'm gonna keep him in the town pile.
He line strikes BK, so, guess BK is tp.

Kza
Syn
TSP
Mac
BK

Tim could just be fooling me, but he feels towny. Same kinda goes for quin and Scotty. Both feel towny.

Falc is a bit of a puzzle rn. Maybe it's just I havent played with him for a while, but his style does feel different. Still gotta town side him for now.

Enrique
Long Con
Marmot
Occupy that awkward, uneasy null space

Jack and nachomamma scum leaning.

PoE

Kyle
Daisy
Monkey
Made
Gavial

Thats where I'm at.

This is a scummy post

You start by admitting the possibility of Mac being bad, but then directly contradict it by saying it’s tinfoily, and putting him in your town pile, even though you have an awkward null space.

What does “line strike” mean? And when did Mac do that to BK?

It actually reads like towny LL to me.

What is towny LL?

Why perform well when you can rand some overly towny power and clear someone

Congress of Vienna type KZA

Well played!!!

I am actually extremely jealous here but trying to hide it.

You got a check, at random. That is more powerful than anything I saw on any other card. What do you make of Gavail's claim that he has access to a tracker shrine AND a watcher shrine? Does that seem plausible?

well you can potentially buy stuff if what you say is true. I'm thinking artifacts and such? ifk how that would work but you would buy actions? roles? abilities? if im understanding your role correctly it seems op too.

if you look at Sloonei's opening post. he explained that there is a cool down to visit a shrine. so players can visit multiple shrines. also some artifacts do different things depending 9n which faction has it.

I'm sorry if anything I said is stuff you already know.

idk if what Gavial is saying is true. what I don't like is he. made a claim but with only a little pressure. iirc he softed early day 2. I don't get why he did that. if he was/is town and does have these nite actions, then why not clear himself in other ways? was the sus from you and the teeny handful of others thst intimidating?

if he is a wolf it was good play done in a bad way.

I don't see him getting resolved. if he isn't lynched then going forward if he is wolf he can hedge by hemming and hawing thst he was rbed in some way or "forced to visit a different shrine" etc. if he isn't lynched and he is town, wolves will provide nk him or rb him or whatever. if he isn't nk he be potentially up for chopping block again.

If I collect enough I can buy a health potion that will protect me from a night kill. At the current rate I will be able to buy that for night ten. I will have to decide between that and an "ebony paralysis dart" that is a one time role block...but that decision is very far away so I am not giving it much thought. If I had gone to the Sheogorath shrine and made four sales lat night instead of one maybe I would be feeling a little OP...but as it stands I am feeling pretty vanilla.

Do you wanna try and set something up?

So you too are in the "no info on what shrines do what" category. There seem to be a whole lot of varieties in this role business. Post game gonna be really interesting.

I went to Hircine, thinking I might get a track or something, but instead I got ghosted.

I go by luckylager, or LL on our home site.
Changed my name to escape my meta but outed myself anyways.
Derp

[Timsup2nothin]

Falcon, Kyle, Kza and Mac are town, of that I’m pretty sure
Tim makes bad pushes, his try is weak, dishonest to the core
Marmot is low hanging fruit, Syn, he’s just that way.
Same likely goes Made and Gavil. Weird, not scum I say.

Then who is Jack?

You are pretty clearly world building around "Tim wolf so anyone he pushes is town." Notably, numerous people who are pretty clearly town disagree with the majority of your reads there so maybe the root of your world build is flawed?

Can you give us anything on anyone that doesn't start with "Tim's a wolf, therefore..."?

Okay thanks in advance.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Falcon, Kyle, Kza and Mac are town, of that I’m pretty sure
Tim makes bad pushes, his try is weak, dishonest to the core
Marmot is low hanging fruit, Syn, he’s just that way.
Same likely goes Made and Gavil. Weird, not scum I say.

Don’t take those last ones to the bank, Made especially
I’m not sure they’re town just unconvinced they’re scum. Those are my reads you see

[Syn]

Falcon, Kyle, Kza and Mac are town, of that I’m pretty sure
Tim makes bad pushes, his try is weak, dishonest to the core
Marmot is low hanging fruit, Syn, he’s just that way.
Same likely goes Made and Gavil. Weird, not scum I say.

strongly disagree on marmot and made

gavial idk

[Kylemii]

sorry i got lost in the gif and forgot what i was doing and should have included a question mark as well, what do you mean by overcooked @Stupid Sexy Flanders

That it went on too long and wasn't satisfying for anyone.
At the time I was getting a w/w vibe because despite the annoying length of argument for everyone watching, neither of you seemed to get all that frustrated with each other.
And they're was a playful tone in a bunch of daisy's posts.

that conversation was like 4 hours from start to finish, where would the benefit come in to faking it, if we were w/w? why would you expect it to be satisfying?

if the conversation were satisfying then it would have been much shorter. i think we were just talking past each other.

I think it's possible Mac could be mafia and falsifying a restriction because he visited a shrine and saw a bunch of townies there.

what does this part mean?

Thought I prefaced that statement by saying it was tinfoil, or maybe that was later in the post. Regardless, tinfoil was clearly mentioned in that post, but you seem to willingly omit that part I'm your quote of my post.

Now why would someone do that?

i cut the post down to just the part i was asking about. i'm askign specifically what the part quoted means, i'm asking how mac would find townies in a shrine and why that would cause him to falsify a restriction, cus i don't see the connection. i already know what tinfoil is

[Syn]

Falcon, Kyle, Kza and Mac are town, of that I’m pretty sure
Tim makes bad pushes, his try is weak, dishonest to the core
Marmot is low hanging fruit, Syn, he’s just that way.
Same likely goes Made and Gavil. Weird, not scum I say.

strongly disagree on marmot and made

gavial idk

i mean disagree that they're low hanging fruit

[Jackofhearts2005]

Falcon, Kyle, Kza and Mac are town, of that I’m pretty sure
Tim makes bad pushes, his try is weak, dishonest to the core
Marmot is low hanging fruit, Syn, he’s just that way.
Same likely goes Made and Gavil. Weird, not scum I say.

Then who is Jack?

You are pretty clearly world building around "Tim wolf so anyone he pushes is town." Notably, numerous people who are pretty clearly town disagree with the majority of your reads there so maybe the root of your world build is flawed?

Can you give us anything on anyone that doesn't start with "Tim's a wolf, therefore..."?

Okay thanks in advance.

Sometimes, wolf reads come easy. Sometimes, the easy reads are town.
Sometimes I play with many strangers and with them I don’t know up or down.

[KZA]

I would not mind hurling Enrique in to the sun

[Jackofhearts2005]

Falcon, Kyle, Kza and Mac are town, of that I’m pretty sure
Tim makes bad pushes, his try is weak, dishonest to the core
Marmot is low hanging fruit, Syn, he’s just that way.
Same likely goes Made and Gavil. Weird, not scum I say.

strongly disagree on marmot and made

gavial idk

If I was going to shield one and proclaim they are the best,
I’d declare Gavial town and yeet the others. Mod can sort the rest.

[Kylemii]

football is a sport

Prove it

foot·ball
/ˈfo͝otˌbôl/
noun
1.
a form of team game played in North America with an oval ball on a field marked out as a gridiron.
"a football club"
2.
a ball used in football, either oval (as in American football) or round (as in soccer), typically made of leather or plastic and filled with compressed air.

[Kylemii]

jack i love your poems

[Kylemii]

football is a sport

Prove it

foot·ball
/ˈfo͝otˌbôl/
noun
1.
a form of team sportgame played in Sports America with an oval ball on a sporting field marked out as an sports gridiron.
"a football club"
2.
a ball used in football, the sport, either oval (as in American sport football) or round (as in soccer sprot), typically made of leather or plastic and filled with compressed sports air.

whoops a typo i fixed it

[Kylemii]

I feel like there's a few players this game that are emerging as an obvious town to me. Mainly tim/KZA/Syn, and a few others that probably belong but not quite, like Kyle, Mac, Daisy, but that leaves a ton of players left to sort through. This game feels messy and out of sync, and the vote counts right now kinda show it.

How is Kyle obvs town? Cuz he's def in my POE, I haven't seen anything from him to change that from last RD

Why's Kyle in your POE?

It's based on his tone and effort from Day 1. Also, he voiced some frustration with his interactions with Daisy that reminded me of Double-Elim where he was town. It's an assumption, but I don't think Kyle can fake that sort of thing very well.

i have this post bookmarked because it stood out to me, but i'm still having trouble deciphering exactly how it makes me feel

[lost monkey]

kza, scottie, syn, DC and mac are my town leans.

[Kylemii]

marmot made a similar argument for my innocence in double elimination mafia where he was mafia and presumably trying to pocket me? after a long verbal deathmatch with moghedian over what i think was probably minutia. i was accused by mog of twisting his words and marmot came in and said that he didn't think i was capable of that?

i guess my question is @Marmot is this a thing you really believe? is there anecdotal evidence for it?

[Gavial]

kza, scottie, syn, DC and mac are my town leans.

When did you start TLing Mac?