The Elder Scrolls [GAME OVER]

[MacDougall]

why are we even talking about this still

If you’re talking about the BK stuff, I agree we should of dropped it as soon as we got that you weren’t implying we went to the same place

yes

[DaisyCloud]

fwiw I'm scared of MacDougall in this game

[Made]

I have 0 threat capability. I have 0 clout. I'm not intimidating. I'm legitimately trying to understand jack. and ask him questions trying to figure him out. how is any of that make me sus?

U have a ton of clout! Like I actively fear your when I’m scum and ur town

wait. u was scared of me last game? I don't believe any of this. and if it's true then only reason for you to be scared in this game is if you randed scum again.

Yes, I’m currently not scared of you cuz I don’t think your scum yet. Ur damn good when your town. Have I seen your scum game before??

[KZA]

well the wolves may have killed Syn but I legit got a cop check with my random 1 shot ability shrine

Made has been green checked lol

Excellent, that's one less POE candidate we have to worry about today.

Marmot. So towny right now. Marmot.





Wait, no that's Hansel. This is a scummy post.

Why is this a scummy post?

It looks like Schwarzenegger doing Hamlet.


Bad theater.

mindmeld

I don't think it really sways my opinion on Marmot much but I like that Falcon had the same thought of "do people really talk like this in mafia?"

[Jackofhearts2005]

@MacDougall who is this and is this post towny or wolfy

Wolfy. Bo and Kza are my top living townies. The idea of needing to yeet one of them is uuuuh.

Scotty watched three players struggle to communicate yesterday due to chaos and being told there was no advantage to it and then still making that choice is ??? and the idea he then failed us also ???

I don’t like his defense of Tim either.

This all sounds more than it actually is but still.

Do you think made is a top town at this point?

Feels different than he normally does but he’s supposedly green checked so I suppose.

Lol “supposedly” coming from your top living townie, KZA.

I’m not buying, you’re not selling. I’m going to walmart

I’m not saying I think Kza could be a wolf. I’m saying he could be faking a green on a townread.

Either way, I’m not interested in yeeting Made.

Why would he fake a green check just because he's town reading someone?

Lotsa people fake lotsa claims as townies for lotsa reasons.

Kza is that kinda player. I’m not.

I normally have an easy time reading Made but he feels wrong so I’m skeptical enough to use the word “supposedly.” But again, I’m not really interested in going after Made.

[Made]

fwiw I'm scared of MacDougall in this game

Same tbh, he’s playing more aggressive than in recent memory...

[DaisyCloud]

I have 0 threat capability. I have 0 clout. I'm not intimidating. I'm legitimately trying to understand jack. and ask him questions trying to figure him out. how is any of that make me sus?

U have a ton of clout! Like I actively fear your when I’m scum and ur town

wait. u was scared of me last game? I don't believe any of this. and if it's true then only reason for you to be scared in this game is if you randed scum again.

Yes, I’m currently not scared of you cuz I don’t think your scum yet. Ur damn good when your town. Have I seen your scum game before??

unless you read it on mu or that civ site that tim and Ace are from then no.

here on syndicate I only ever randed town.

[KZA]

aggressive Mac is great

[Jackofhearts2005]

So I’m somewhere like


Townread
KZA
Bo
Mac
Made
Falcon

Townlean (these reads are all stupid)
Kyle
Scotty
Tony
LC

???
Enrique
Nacho (yeet if Daisy is a wolf)
Marmot
Quin
anyone else if forgotten

Scumread
Tim
Flanders
Daisy

I don't believe jack actually believes this list.

Why? What part of it doesn’t mesh with my previous statements or the players in question’s actions?

Besides Scotty I mean.

[Marmot]

Gonna throw this out as a not serious suggestion to piss people off.

“Let’s yeet Nacho because if he’s town, we’ve probably lost anyway and it’ll put us out of our misery and if he’s a wolf, ta da we got a wolf.”

Why nacho over another LHF character? Strictly the post count?

[BoKnows]

Scotty looks like my ass pre-wipe.

Pretty sure Flanders was going to be a hit. He was howling every time he posted.

If there is a vigi plz shoot Flanders.

Cop check TSP
Vigi Flanders
Obviously any doctors need to rand between Kza and Syn

Cop check TSP
Vigi Flanders
Obviously any doctors need to rand between Kza and Syn

Which leaves you as a doc dodge target, so now that you can talk...what's your take on Made?

That would depend on Flanders alignment. I think that if Flanders turns out to be town that Made/Marmot have at least one wolf between them. Is it plausibly both?

If Flanders is mafia I think that its not so likely that Made or Marmot are mafia unless I misread the gamestate.

I see a lot of talk about Flanders being scum, but no mention at all of why.


Do you usually give no reasons when calling out scum?

Mac definitely gave a reason

What reason did he post? I only saw what he said recently, why wouldn't he say something before?

that lucky was more focused on mis-lynches or whatever

[DaisyCloud]

So I’m somewhere like


Townread
KZA
Bo
Mac
Made
Falcon

Townlean (these reads are all stupid)
Kyle
Scotty
Tony
LC

???
Enrique
Nacho (yeet if Daisy is a wolf)
Marmot
Quin
anyone else if forgotten

Scumread
Tim
Flanders
Daisy

I don't believe jack actually believes this list.

Why? What part of it doesn’t mesh with my previous statements or the players in question’s actions?

Besides Scotty I mean.

most of these players you haven't interacted with. and/or you haven't spoken about them.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Gonna throw this out as a not serious suggestion to piss people off.

“Let’s yeet Nacho because if he’s town, we’ve probably lost anyway and it’ll put us out of our misery and if he’s a wolf, ta da we got a wolf.”

Why nacho over another LHF character? Strictly the post count?

Yeh, though I don’t actually intend to do that.

[DaisyCloud]

aggressive Mac is great

yeah. this is more like the Mac im used to seeing/remember. it6 epic

[KZA]

While the game was interesting, it was not that great. Once it was known to me that it was a unknown flip... I kept my nose clean by playing a safe game. Voting KZA every round was a play I wanted try. Having a role that was a curse for town was not one I wanted to keep around. Though I didn't really believe the role existed. KZA remaining alive after nfs was curious.

After a while players just voted. So the game then became...who would last longest.

[Marmot]

I am about to get really really busy and will not be able to solve in my usual follow the thread and analyze every post in detail. I will once again be reduced to popping in, looking at pings, maybe looking at the most recent post or two, and trying to make something of it. Three things before I go.

Mogh, you are not responsible for the gigantic hole in the boat that is your slot, but you are in the boat that Flanders took an axe to and it is gonna be hard work to keep that afloat.

We are not killing Bo, get that straight right from the gate and save us a lot of trouble. Otherwise my reads list I am still standing with.

Third and final, since I can't thread sit and may not even be able to full read before EoD I have to have something to go off of, so everyone (yes even you slankers) please ping me with your opinions on this question:

If you had access to a scroll of magic detection, which would allow you to target one person and know if they held an artifact (but not which artifact) how great do you think that would be and why? Consider in your answer other potential cool things that you could maybe get later instead, not necessarily as cool as vig shots or cop checks...but maybe, or maybe not that cool like a one time self protect or a one time doc, or...I dunno...stuff. Is knowing someone does or does not have an artifact important here?

Please ping me with your answers and if someone tough could sort of point out the question to the stragglers and suggest they don't blow me off that would be great.

Okay thanks.

Considering that half of the artifacts remaining in the game lie in the hands of opposing parties, and the 3P and Mafia ones still being a mystery, I think this would be a very useful ability for someone. @Timsup2nothin

[DaisyCloud]

if I said I read Jack's iso twice that makes me an expert right? even though I don't understand him most of the time? yes? okay thanks

if not then it was how many times I need to read it to be expert.

[Jackofhearts2005]

So I’m somewhere like


Townread
KZA
Bo
Mac
Made
Falcon

Townlean (these reads are all stupid)
Kyle
Scotty
Tony
LC

???
Enrique
Nacho (yeet if Daisy is a wolf)
Marmot
Quin
anyone else if forgotten

Scumread
Tim
Flanders
Daisy

I don't believe jack actually believes this list.

Why? What part of it doesn’t mesh with my previous statements or the players in question’s actions?

Besides Scotty I mean.

most of these players you haven't interacted with. and/or you haven't spoken about them.

I’ve expressed my townreads on Kza, Falcon, Made, Bo and Mac.

I expressed my stupid townlean on LC yesterday. I developed my stupid townlean when Tony entered the thread and agreed with me. I flipped my read on Scotty to a stupid townlean after thinking you and he are unlikely w/w and remembering a time town Scotty and I butted heads and noticing his case on me (while wrong) has actual meat on it compared to yours, which is more random assertions and pairings that appear to come from thin air.

I expressed my suspicion of you and Tim a ton on previous days and reiterated my suspicion on you today. I asked someone to summarize the Flanders case and Nac did and it looked pretty good (the case itself and how it looks like a thing he really believed yesterday being a big part of what moved him from stupid townlean to to actual strong townread).

It’s true that I haven’t talked much to or about my nullreads but I’m sure that’s not what you meant.

[MacDougall]

fwiw I'm scared of MacDougall in this game

the constant paranoia of me in every game is pretty lame

[Marmot]

[VOTE: Nachomamma] aubergine


@Nachomamma8 Do you plan on moving beyond page 30?

[DaisyCloud]

While the game was interesting, it was not that great. Once it was known to me that it was a unknown flip... I kept my nose clean by playing a safe game. Voting KZA every round was a play I wanted try. Having a role that was a curse for town was not one I wanted to keep around. Though I didn't really believe the role existed. KZA remaining alive after nfs was curious.

After a while players just voted. So the game then became...who would last longest.

wait what? I'm not following. who r u talking to here and what game? how is this relevant? this game? but u r not being voted.

I'm sorry. idk what standard of game play u r expecting.

I'm so confused. I'm really sorry.

[Jackofhearts2005]

fwiw I'm scared of MacDougall in this game

the constant paranoia of me in every game is pretty lame

There there, buddy. I know you’re town. Now get in my pocket eh?

[Marmot]

fwiw I'm scared of MacDougall in this game

the constant paranoia of me in every game is pretty lame

I'm more scared of you than paranoid, but that's because you always catch me a wolf lol

[BoKnows]

tbh im okay with my vote on daisy. Some of her posts don't seem genuine

[Marmot]

BK full of horseshit and probably wolfing with Tim.

Nah

[Jackofhearts2005]

Yeah, Mac’s a good wolf and I’ve fooled him as a townie before but imo, he’s a more fearsome townie than most.

[falcon45ca]

aggressive Mac is great

What's your read on Mac?



I have kind of angleshooty reasons for TR Flander's slot, and Mac is feeling off to me right now.


It feels like before he had broad suspicions that were never fleshed out, and now that Flanders is not here to directly defend himself Mac is pushing the slot

[Marmot]

Hi.

I went to the chaos shrine. Chaos did not happen, I was blocked.

Looks like someone was able to either protect KZA, or KZA was lying the whole time and has been a wolf “green peeking” a town and was just trying to lure out who really had the artifact.

I think Tim’s claim looks the best because it seems like an obvious attempt to Spartacus it up.

One of Bo or KZA is bad

you were blocked from doing what?

Didn't you go to the chaos shrine already?

[falcon45ca]

While the game was interesting, it was not that great. Once it was known to me that it was a unknown flip... I kept my nose clean by playing a safe game. Voting KZA every round was a play I wanted try. Having a role that was a curse for town was not one I wanted to keep around. Though I didn't really believe the role existed. KZA remaining alive after nfs was curious.

After a while players just voted. So the game then became...who would last longest.

classic

[DaisyCloud]

fwiw I'm scared of MacDougall in this game

the constant paranoia of me in every game is pretty lame

I'm not paranoid of you. I think your town. I feel like the soul thingy I typically get from tim transferred to u.

I'm sorry if it looked like I was shading you. just because I think you are town doesn't mean I think u r right about stuff. and ot doesn't mean I will 233% believe you are town either. did you miss my post in reply to KZA? aggressive MacDougall is awesome.


I'm not lame

[falcon45ca]

While the game was interesting, it was not that great. Once it was known to me that it was a unknown flip... I kept my nose clean by playing a safe game. Voting KZA every round was a play I wanted try. Having a role that was a curse for town was not one I wanted to keep around. Though I didn't really believe the role existed. KZA remaining alive after nfs was curious.

After a while players just voted. So the game then became...who would last longest.

wait what? I'm not following. who r u talking to here and what game? how is this relevant? this game? but u r not being voted.

I'm sorry. idk what standard of game play u r expecting.

I'm so confused. I'm really sorry.

Its a CDC copypasta, from one of the All Time Greats

[DaisyCloud]

While the game was interesting, it was not that great. Once it was known to me that it was a unknown flip... I kept my nose clean by playing a safe game. Voting KZA every round was a play I wanted try. Having a role that was a curse for town was not one I wanted to keep around. Though I didn't really believe the role existed. KZA remaining alive after nfs was curious.

After a while players just voted. So the game then became...who would last longest.

wait what? I'm not following. who r u talking to here and what game? how is this relevant? this game? but u r not being voted.

I'm sorry. idk what standard of game play u r expecting.

I'm so confused. I'm really sorry.

Its a CDC copypasta, from one of the All Time Greats

oh. I forgot u guys do that sort of thing.

[Marmot]

BK full of horseshit and probably wolfing with Tim.

What part of this has to do with Made's post re: you & BK? Where is BK full of "horseshit", and how has he been wolfing with Tim?


Why does it feel like you're slinging mud and making it up as you go along?

@Marmot thoughts??

I think Mac's statement here is bad and that BK is town, but not paying full attention to the game.

Why are you asking me specifically?

[TonyStarkPrime]

Hi.

I went to the chaos shrine. Chaos did not happen, I was blocked.

Looks like someone was able to either protect KZA, or KZA was lying the whole time and has been a wolf “green peeking” a town and was just trying to lure out who really had the artifact.

I think Tim’s claim looks the best because it seems like an obvious attempt to Spartacus it up.

One of Bo or KZA is bad

@MacDougall who is this and is this post towny or wolfy

you've never met Scotty?

I am not entirely sure.

no, it's our first game together and I've been MIA up until approx. 10 minutes ago. I'm with Jack on this one I think.

Could have sworn we’ve played together.

Regardless, I have the 4th most posts in this game, so to ask who I am is a bad reflection of your reading

given that I just started reading 10 minutes before posting this i'd think that that's a fair assessment

[DaisyCloud]

I feel like this game has gone down to a manageable size. and in theory all those inactive can easily hop on in and join game andpost and stuff.

[DaisyCloud]

Hi.

I went to the chaos shrine. Chaos did not happen, I was blocked.

Looks like someone was able to either protect KZA, or KZA was lying the whole time and has been a wolf “green peeking” a town and was just trying to lure out who really had the artifact.

I think Tim’s claim looks the best because it seems like an obvious attempt to Spartacus it up.

One of Bo or KZA is bad

@MacDougall who is this and is this post towny or wolfy

you've never met Scotty?

I am not entirely sure.

no, it's our first game together and I've been MIA up until approx. 10 minutes ago. I'm with Jack on this one I think.

Could have sworn we’ve played together.

Regardless, I have the 4th most posts in this game, so to ask who I am is a bad reflection of your reading

given that I just started reading 10 minutes before posting this i'd think that that's a fair assessment

tony r u town?

[KZA]

aggressive Mac is great

What's your read on Mac?



I have kind of angleshooty reasons for TR Flander's slot, and Mac is feeling off to me right now.


It feels like before he had broad suspicions that were never fleshed out, and now that Flanders is not here to directly defend himself Mac is pushing the slot

he seems fine and maccy but not to the extremely obvious blinking neon sign extent of obvtown he was in Fargo

doubt I really consider him today

[TonyStarkPrime]

Hi.

I went to the chaos shrine. Chaos did not happen, I was blocked.

Looks like someone was able to either protect KZA, or KZA was lying the whole time and has been a wolf “green peeking” a town and was just trying to lure out who really had the artifact.

I think Tim’s claim looks the best because it seems like an obvious attempt to Spartacus it up.

One of Bo or KZA is bad

@MacDougall who is this and is this post towny or wolfy

you've never met Scotty?

I am not entirely sure.

no, it's our first game together and I've been MIA up until approx. 10 minutes ago. I'm with Jack on this one I think.

Could have sworn we’ve played together.

Regardless, I have the 4th most posts in this game, so to ask who I am is a bad reflection of your reading

given that I just started reading 10 minutes before posting this i'd think that that's a fair assessment

tony r u town?

pretty obviously so what do you want to know

[BoKnows]

imagine seeing "(Steve Kelly comp)" and thinking, "yeah, this is a win"

[TonyStarkPrime]

I want a mass flip event. Where's the kill 6 ppl button.

I went for chaos last night. The only chaos I experienced last night was my dog puking up bark she ate earlier.

Do you know you were blocked or did you just not get a result?

[KZA]

why would Scotty get blocked over Gavial claiming a watch

I doubt any town would decided YEAH WE NEED TO BLOCK SCOTTY

[Timsup2nothin]

I am about to get really really busy and will not be able to solve in my usual follow the thread and analyze every post in detail. I will once again be reduced to popping in, looking at pings, maybe looking at the most recent post or two, and trying to make something of it. Three things before I go.

Mogh, you are not responsible for the gigantic hole in the boat that is your slot, but you are in the boat that Flanders took an axe to and it is gonna be hard work to keep that afloat.

We are not killing Bo, get that straight right from the gate and save us a lot of trouble. Otherwise my reads list I am still standing with.

Third and final, since I can't thread sit and may not even be able to full read before EoD I have to have something to go off of, so everyone (yes even you slankers) please ping me with your opinions on this question:

If you had access to a scroll of magic detection, which would allow you to target one person and know if they held an artifact (but not which artifact) how great do you think that would be and why? Consider in your answer other potential cool things that you could maybe get later instead, not necessarily as cool as vig shots or cop checks...but maybe, or maybe not that cool like a one time self protect or a one time doc, or...I dunno...stuff. Is knowing someone does or does not have an artifact important here?

Please ping me with your answers and if someone tough could sort of point out the question to the stragglers and suggest they don't blow me off that would be great.

Okay thanks.

Considering that half of the artifacts remaining in the game lie in the hands of opposing parties, and the 3P and Mafia ones still being a mystery, I think this would be a very useful ability for someone. @Timsup2nothin

Thanx Marmot.

[Marmot]

I want a green check. Check me KZA

[KZA]

I want a green check. Check me KZA

I'm running out of artifacts to fake claim. You can have a purple check if I don't make it to night 4 for my next cop shrine visit

[Marmot]

Wolves can have Bo’s sword. That makes the artifact search Tim was talking about more powerful.

10,000IQ play

[TonyStarkPrime]

Wolves can have Bo’s sword. That makes the artifact search Tim was talking about more powerful.

your counterclaim to my counterclaim of Bo must be fake or else you would know it's a hammer.

[DaisyCloud]

@MacDougall who is this and is this post towny or wolfy

you've never met Scotty?

I am not entirely sure.

no, it's our first game together and I've been MIA up until approx. 10 minutes ago. I'm with Jack on this one I think.

Could have sworn we’ve played together.

Regardless, I have the 4th most posts in this game, so to ask who I am is a bad reflection of your reading

given that I just started reading 10 minutes before posting this i'd think that that's a fair assessment

tony r u town?

pretty obviously so what do you want to know

what would you do if your strongest town read was the one of the top scum reads, and u know some information but didn't know how to interpret it?

[DaisyCloud]

time is here!

[Jackofhearts2005]

why would Scotty get blocked over Gavial claiming a watch

I doubt any town would decided YEAH WE NEED TO BLOCK SCOTTY

Oh yeah there is that.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Wolves can have Bo’s sword. That makes the artifact search Tim was talking about more powerful.

your counterclaim to my counterclaim of Bo must be fake or else you would know it's a hammer.

It’s like a hammersword, right?