The Elder Scrolls [GAME OVER]

[Vulgard]

Made
MR
DaisyCloud
Jack
TSP

lost monkey
Marmot
Kyle

FMPOV the above are town.

Gavial is my primary 3p read. He's not a pack wolf. I trust he has no TMI based on his play thus far.

If Tim's a wolf, he's partnered with LC. He gave LC an early townshield. "But wolves don't want to look like partners!" Tim's MO as a wolf includes doing those things, I'm sure.

For the record, I reviewed Tim's ISO and I don't townread him. If there's a deepwolf/powerwolf/whatever other than Mac, might be Tim.

I hate that LC pulled this fake redcheck thing. Now I need to read Scotty again.

I'm not sure I've ever seen someone assemble a town core so quickly with so few interactions

Do you have a problem with it because you're not in it, wolf?

[falcon45ca]

Made
MR
DaisyCloud
Jack
TSP

lost monkey
Marmot
Kyle

FMPOV the above are town.

Gavial is my primary 3p read. He's not a pack wolf. I trust he has no TMI based on his play thus far.

If Tim's a wolf, he's partnered with LC. He gave LC an early townshield. "But wolves don't want to look like partners!" Tim's MO as a wolf includes doing those things, I'm sure.

For the record, I reviewed Tim's ISO and I don't townread him. If there's a deepwolf/powerwolf/whatever other than Mac, might be Tim.

I hate that LC pulled this fake redcheck thing. Now I need to read Scotty again.

I'm not sure I've ever seen someone assemble a town core so quickly with so few interactions

Do you have a problem with it because you're not in it, wolf?

No, I have a problem with it for the reasons I already said.

[falcon45ca]

I hate that we went so long without getting a wolf flip, I hate that half the player list is tough to read for replacements or slanking, I hate that I feel like I’m using my night actions wrong because it’s like “target a player/shrine/artifact to learn a thing that is absolutely not useful unless you know two other things” and I hate that I spent time thinking about meta that doesn’t apply.

I also hate how ungodly long Morrowind is such that I’ve sunk hundreds of hours into it to get maybe a quarter of the way through. But I also love it.

Does anyone else see this and think "yeah, that's towny"?

Yea. I just about said as much
[/quote]

You misunderstand I think. I don't see that as towny, I hate lil pieces of theatre like that.

[falcon45ca]

Now my quotes are cursed, what have you done to me Scotty?

[Scotty]

I hate that we went so long without getting a wolf flip, I hate that half the player list is tough to read for replacements or slanking, I hate that I feel like I’m using my night actions wrong because it’s like “target a player/shrine/artifact to learn a thing that is absolutely not useful unless you know two other things” and I hate that I spent time thinking about meta that doesn’t apply.

I also hate how ungodly long Morrowind is such that I’ve sunk hundreds of hours into it to get maybe a quarter of the way through. But I also love it.

Does anyone else see this and think "yeah, that's towny"?

Yea. I just about said as much

You misunderstand I think. I don't see that as towny, I hate lil pieces of theatre like that.
[/quote]
I work in theater and I don’t see it as performative theater. I mean, I guess it could all be theater since ‘all the world’s a stage’ and shit, but that line doesn’t stand out to me

[Scotty]

Now my quotes are cursed, what have you done to me Scotty?

[/quote]
Given you the freedom to be as cursed as you want to be, laddie

[Scotty]

Now my quotes are cursed, what have you done to me Scotty?

Given you the freedom to be as cursed as you want to be, laddie
[/quote]

[Scotty]

Now my quotes are cursed, what have you done to me Scotty?

Given you the freedom to be as cursed as you want to be, laddie

[/quote]
WTF IS GOING ON

[falcon45ca]

Alright, I gotta be honest. I'm getting a lil' annoyed at my reads being dismissed out of hand. I find it unbelievable that nobody is re-assessing their read on Marmot after Mog flipped town, so whatever I guess, do whatever the fuck you want.



[VOTE: UNVOTE] aubergine

[falcon45ca]

I hate that we went so long without getting a wolf flip, I hate that half the player list is tough to read for replacements or slanking, I hate that I feel like I’m using my night actions wrong because it’s like “target a player/shrine/artifact to learn a thing that is absolutely not useful unless you know two other things” and I hate that I spent time thinking about meta that doesn’t apply.

I also hate how ungodly long Morrowind is such that I’ve sunk hundreds of hours into it to get maybe a quarter of the way through. But I also love it.

Does anyone else see this and think "yeah, that's towny"?

Yea. I just about said as much

/quote]
You misunderstand I think. I don't see that as towny, I hate lil pieces of theatre like that.

I work in theater and I don’t see it as performative theater. I mean, I guess it could all be theater since ‘all the world’s a stage’ and shit, but that line doesn’t stand out to me

Fair enough, you don't have to read things the same as I do. Just wanted to clarify what I meant.

[Scotty]

Alright, I gotta be honest. I'm getting a lil' annoyed at my reads being dismissed out of hand. I find it unbelievable that nobody is re-assessing their read on Marmot after Mog flipped town, so whatever I guess, do whatever the fuck you want.



[VOTE: UNVOTE] aubergine

I have reassessed based on not just Mog’s flip but, more importantly (unless you are forgetting), mac’s flip.

I’m gonna veer back and take a look at you tho, who I had previously read as marmot’s partner.

[falcon45ca]

Alright, I gotta be honest. I'm getting a lil' annoyed at my reads being dismissed out of hand. I find it unbelievable that nobody is re-assessing their read on Marmot after Mog flipped town, so whatever I guess, do whatever the fuck you want.



[VOTE: UNVOTE] aubergine

I have reassessed based on not just Mog’s flip but, more importantly (unless you are forgetting), mac’s flip.

I’m gonna veer back and take a look at you tho, who I had previously read as marmot’s partner.

Go right ahead and come back to the same conclusion you already have, I really don't give a fuck.



I'm not forgetting Mac's flip, I encouraged it and I'm glad he's fucking dead. Thank you Molag's Champ.

[Scotty]

Hey @Qwags i don’t know if you’ve read the game at all in the past 100 pages but we could maybe use your vote here

[falcon45ca]

Meta read on MR: he's town y'all, plz trust my meta reads on CDC'ers

[Scotty]

Alright, I gotta be honest. I'm getting a lil' annoyed at my reads being dismissed out of hand. I find it unbelievable that nobody is re-assessing their read on Marmot after Mog flipped town, so whatever I guess, do whatever the fuck you want.



[VOTE: UNVOTE] aubergine

I have reassessed based on not just Mog’s flip but, more importantly (unless you are forgetting), mac’s flip.

I’m gonna veer back and take a look at you tho, who I had previously read as marmot’s partner.

Go right ahead and come back to the same conclusion you already have, I really don't give a fuck.



I'm not forgetting Mac's flip, I encouraged it and I'm glad he's fucking dead. Thank you Molag's Champ.

I will say that I do remember you being antagonizing to Mac in like d2.

I also like that you are straight assuming it was 3P and molag’s champ.

I appreciate your service, molag’s champ

[falcon45ca]

Hey @Qwags i don’t know if you’ve read the game at all in the past 100 pages but we could maybe use your vote here

I think Nook was the only dead player to be able to vote dude

[Scotty]

Night 3




BoKnows has been killed. He was the Orc Bard, and Malacath's Champion.

Spoiler: show

Role: Orc Bard
Race: Orc
Alignment: Town
Available Shrines: Malacath

Malacath’s Champion. You must access Malacath’s Shrine each Night. You begin each Day with -1 vote against you.

You wield the Artifact Volendrung.
The wielder of Volendrung’s vote is permanently worth 2. The wielder of Volendrung decides the outcome of tied votes.
The Artifact will remain in your possession as long you remain alive.
If you are nightkilled by Mehrunes’ Razor, the Artifact will be passed into the possession of the Mafia team.
If you die under any other circumstances, the Artifact will be destroyed except under certain circumstances under which it will pass into the possession of a Civilian, unbeknownst to you.

KZA has been killed. He was the Breton Apprentice.

Spoiler: show

Role: Breton Apprentice
Race: Breton
Alignment: Town
Available Shrines: Hermaeus Mora, Namira, Sheogorath, Vaermina

• Azura - If you die while accessing Azura’s Shrine, you will be able to share your most recent night action report with a player of your choice, chosen within 24 hours of your death.

• Hermaeus Mora - You learn a new spell, granting you a random 1-shot ability to be used that Night.

• Namira - You may target a Shrine. You will be told what types of abilities are accessed there that Night. You will not learn the identities or alignments of any players at the Shrine.

• Sheogorath - Chaos

• Vaermina - You can target a player to learn whether or not they are aligned with the Mafia team.

You may not visit the same shrine twice during any 3-night span. For example, if you visit Sheogorath’s Shrine on Night 1, you may not access it again until Night 4.

MacDougall has been killed. He was the Breton Monk, a member of the Order of the Revenant.

Spoiler: show

Role: Breton Monk
Race: Breton
Alignment: Mafia
Designated Shrines: Azura, Clavicus Vile, Hermaeus Mora, Peryite, Sheogorath

• Azura - You may target a player to be protected from nightkills that Night.

• Clavicus Vile - You may target a player to learn what race their role is.

• Hermaeus Mora - You may target a Shrine of your choice. You will be told whether or not there is an Artifact present there that Night.

• Peryite - You may target a player to delay their Shrine access recharge by 1 phase. Any Shrines they are currently restricted from accessing due to recent access will remain unavailable to them one phase longer than normal.

• Sheogorath - Chaos.

• Vaermina - You may target a player to learn one Shrine ability they have available to them.

You may not visit the same shrine twice during any 3-night span. For example, if you visit Sheogorath’s Shrine on Night 1, you may not access it again until Night 4.

It is Day 4. You have 48 hours to eliminate someone.

@Qwags is eligible to cast a vote in the poll today. He may not post in the thread.
Night action results will be sent out momentarily, my apologies for the delay.

Spoiler: show

@DaisyCloud
@falcon45ca
@Gavial
@Jackofhearts2005
@Kylemii
@Long Con
@lost monkey
@Made
@Marmot
@Master Radishes
@Nachomamma8
@Quin
@Scotty
@Timsup2nothin
@TonyStarkPrime
@Vulgard

[Timsup2nothin]

That’s good “SK is Gav” equity right there

Do NOT press for claims on what shrine people went to. Notice that Mac had a "was there an artifact at shrine X? power. We do not know what night he used that power or what shrine he targeted. Molag Ball dude so NOT say anything about what shrines you have visited. If townies try to press it out of you...well, town will willage. Sorry.

Didn't notice that before but thinks it adds to the likelihood of Long Con pulling a long Con here - his shrine related antics make a hell of a lot more sense if he was actually digging for artifact info via Mac power.

Yeah.

Or Scotty is just a wolf.

Kza got two checks in two nights. Is it far fetched that another check went out? No it is not.

I've read Long Con as town even longer than i have read Scotty as town. I am not really ready to jump either way here.

And you’ve plummeted again

C'mon man. Some one I have town read since say one...the first person I got a town read on in the game...claims a red check on you...and you are sweating me for wondering if maybe you are a wolf???

[Scotty]

That’s good “SK is Gav” equity right there

Do NOT press for claims on what shrine people went to. Notice that Mac had a "was there an artifact at shrine X? power. We do not know what night he used that power or what shrine he targeted. Molag Ball dude so NOT say anything about what shrines you have visited. If townies try to press it out of you...well, town will willage. Sorry.

Didn't notice that before but thinks it adds to the likelihood of Long Con pulling a long Con here - his shrine related antics make a hell of a lot more sense if he was actually digging for artifact info via Mac power.

Yeah.

Or Scotty is just a wolf.

Kza got two checks in two nights. Is it far fetched that another check went out? No it is not.

I've read Long Con as town even longer than i have read Scotty as town. I am not really ready to jump either way here.

And you’ve plummeted again

C'mon man. Some one I have town read since say one...the first person I got a town read on in the game...claims a red check on you...and you are sweating me for wondering if maybe you are a wolf???

I mean I’m sweating you for other reasons, you hot bastard

[falcon45ca]

Night 3




BoKnows has been killed. He was the Orc Bard, and Malacath's Champion.

Spoiler: show

Role: Orc Bard
Race: Orc
Alignment: Town
Available Shrines: Malacath

Malacath’s Champion. You must access Malacath’s Shrine each Night. You begin each Day with -1 vote against you.

You wield the Artifact Volendrung.
The wielder of Volendrung’s vote is permanently worth 2. The wielder of Volendrung decides the outcome of tied votes.
The Artifact will remain in your possession as long you remain alive.
If you are nightkilled by Mehrunes’ Razor, the Artifact will be passed into the possession of the Mafia team.
If you die under any other circumstances, the Artifact will be destroyed except under certain circumstances under which it will pass into the possession of a Civilian, unbeknownst to you.

KZA has been killed. He was the Breton Apprentice.

Spoiler: show

Role: Breton Apprentice
Race: Breton
Alignment: Town
Available Shrines: Hermaeus Mora, Namira, Sheogorath, Vaermina

• Azura - If you die while accessing Azura’s Shrine, you will be able to share your most recent night action report with a player of your choice, chosen within 24 hours of your death.

• Hermaeus Mora - You learn a new spell, granting you a random 1-shot ability to be used that Night.

• Namira - You may target a Shrine. You will be told what types of abilities are accessed there that Night. You will not learn the identities or alignments of any players at the Shrine.

• Sheogorath - Chaos

• Vaermina - You can target a player to learn whether or not they are aligned with the Mafia team.

You may not visit the same shrine twice during any 3-night span. For example, if you visit Sheogorath’s Shrine on Night 1, you may not access it again until Night 4.

MacDougall has been killed. He was the Breton Monk, a member of the Order of the Revenant.

Spoiler: show

Role: Breton Monk
Race: Breton
Alignment: Mafia
Designated Shrines: Azura, Clavicus Vile, Hermaeus Mora, Peryite, Sheogorath

• Azura - You may target a player to be protected from nightkills that Night.

• Clavicus Vile - You may target a player to learn what race their role is.

• Hermaeus Mora - You may target a Shrine of your choice. You will be told whether or not there is an Artifact present there that Night.

• Peryite - You may target a player to delay their Shrine access recharge by 1 phase. Any Shrines they are currently restricted from accessing due to recent access will remain unavailable to them one phase longer than normal.

• Sheogorath - Chaos.

• Vaermina - You may target a player to learn one Shrine ability they have available to them.

You may not visit the same shrine twice during any 3-night span. For example, if you visit Sheogorath’s Shrine on Night 1, you may not access it again until Night 4.

It is Day 4. You have 48 hours to eliminate someone.

@Qwags is eligible to cast a vote in the poll today. He may not post in the thread.
Night action results will be sent out momentarily, my apologies for the delay.

Spoiler: show

@DaisyCloud
@falcon45ca
@Gavial
@Jackofhearts2005
@Kylemii
@Long Con
@lost monkey
@Made
@Marmot
@Master Radishes
@Nachomamma8
@Quin
@Scotty
@Timsup2nothin
@TonyStarkPrime
@Vulgard

Sweet! I missed that.

[Timsup2nothin]

Good morning all...I've looked at my pings, answered the one most deserving of an answer, and now I'm gonna read several pages while I have breakfast.

[falcon45ca]

That’s good “SK is Gav” equity right there

Do NOT press for claims on what shrine people went to. Notice that Mac had a "was there an artifact at shrine X? power. We do not know what night he used that power or what shrine he targeted. Molag Ball dude so NOT say anything about what shrines you have visited. If townies try to press it out of you...well, town will willage. Sorry.

Didn't notice that before but thinks it adds to the likelihood of Long Con pulling a long Con here - his shrine related antics make a hell of a lot more sense if he was actually digging for artifact info via Mac power.

Yeah.

Or Scotty is just a wolf.

Kza got two checks in two nights. Is it far fetched that another check went out? No it is not.

I've read Long Con as town even longer than i have read Scotty as town. I am not really ready to jump either way here.

And you’ve plummeted again

C'mon man. Some one I have town read since say one...the first person I got a town read on in the game...claims a red check on you...and you are sweating me for wondering if maybe you are a wolf???

This needs more question marks, it's not disbelieving enough without at least 6 more ?????????????

[Timsup2nothin]

TL;DR Do you have any evidence/basis for what you've just said?

When you said you had all that experience with Gavial it sounded super plausible. You asking if he has evidence/basis casts doubt though. I have played three games with him now and that's enough for me to know: no, he neither has nor needs any evidence or basis, ever.

[Timsup2nothin]

I don't really have a Scotty red check. Just thought it would be fun to shake things up a little.

Well there's a development. If you weren't my first town read in the game I'd murder you just because.

[Timsup2nothin]

I hate the poll.

Unless I missed something I hate absolutely every vote on the poll.

The lead wagons are the lead wagons because of a red check that no longer exists.

Daisy, don't self vote. Just...don't.

There is no chance in this planet that we are going to no chop. Falcon, I get that you are tilted, but just no.

Vulgard's vote is okay I guess.

This game...okay the game is great. The town...leaves a lot to be desired. If the 3P hadn't killed a wolf for us we would be completely buried here in a hole of our own creation and it seems like we are still digging.

Yes I know my reads have sucked. At least I tried to make sense of them. I like this Vulgard, other than the fact that I see no particular reason to town read him. His POE makes sense at least. I'ma follow that.

[Jackofhearts2005]

Maybe we’re all just town.

[Jackofhearts2005]

I guess my top suspect is like Lost Monkey?

Or maybe still Tim idk.

[TonyStarkPrime]

I hate that we went so long without getting a wolf flip, I hate that half the player list is tough to read for replacements or slanking, I hate that I feel like I’m using my night actions wrong because it’s like “target a player/shrine/artifact to learn a thing that is absolutely not useful unless you know two other things” and I hate that I spent time thinking about meta that doesn’t apply.

I also hate how ungodly long Morrowind is such that I’ve sunk hundreds of hours into it to get maybe a quarter of the way through. But I also love it.

Does anyone else see this and think "yeah, that's towny"?

No

[TonyStarkPrime]

I’m still confused did he rescind

[Jackofhearts2005]

I'm voting Long Con and I encourage others to join me and I'm putting my faith in the strength of the Scotty town read. Scotty interactions with Mac make zero fucking sense coming from scum and the way his paranoia evolved and abated is something that I don't think scum is able to fake.

I wanna call this townie but I’m a w!Nacho world, he knows LC is wrong so this is actually NAI at best.

[TonyStarkPrime]

If he did he’s town if not he’s also town

[Long Con]

I don't really have a Scotty red check. Just thought it would be fun to shake things up a little.

Well there's a development. If you weren't my first town read in the game I'd murder you just because.

Why? That's ridiculous.

[Timsup2nothin]

[VOTE: Falcon] aubergine

[Long Con]

If he did he’s town if not he’s also town

Yeah, I don't have a red check, I don't do checks.

[Scotty]

Because of LC’s shenanigans he forced me to look into him more, which I don’t think I would have done this phase anyway, but now that I did- I see a comparable w/w with Mac. I saw Vulgard iso’d him in a matter of 3 minutes and somehow came away that they don’t make a good w/w pairing, but I can’t really see how they came to that conclusion.

On the flip side, nacho has been the mildest and well-natured towards me, so he’s probably bad

[Master Radishes]

Meta read on MR: he's town y'all

Yes but why

[Timsup2nothin]

I don't really have a Scotty red check. Just thought it would be fun to shake things up a little.

Well there's a development. If you weren't my first town read in the game I'd murder you just because.

Why? That's ridiculous.

Emotional reactions are usually ridiculous.

Mostly I went to bed last night thinking "Mac's dead, got a freaking red check on a deep wolf, this game has turned around!!!! Euphoria!!!

And now it's like "okay, well at least we got Mac..." If you had not gotten me all excited and then let me down I think I'd probably feel a lot better now, just off the Mac flip...but as is I'm kinda bleh.

[Master Radishes]

Let's yeet Tim now.

[Master Radishes]

[VOTE: Timsup2sumthin] aubergine

[Master Radishes]

I should probably iso Falc one day.

[Timsup2nothin]

Because of LC’s shenanigans he forced me to look into him more, which I don’t think I would have done this phase anyway, but now that I did- I see a comparable w/w with Mac. I saw Vulgard iso’d him in a matter of 3 minutes and somehow came away that they don’t make a good w/w pairing, but I can’t really see how they came to that conclusion.

On the flip side, nacho has been the mildest and well-natured towards me, so he’s probably bad

Wait, what? Vulgard came away with "not a good pairing"? He has LC in his final team though...

Meanwhile...I tinfoil on you and act like a jerk, and that makes me bad...and Nacho is mild and well-natured, and that makes him bad? Could you make up your mind at some point please?

[Jackofhearts2005]

I think Daisy's a wolf.

- Her ISO is a hedge maze.
- Her townreads contain at least two wolves. Scotty and Mac. Both have never been explained, she just plopped them in there.
- Her pushes have been wolfsided. Pushes on Gavial who I'm certain is town. OMGUS push on Jack who wrote a great case on her.
- Does not seem to care much about the d1 wagons or the d2 wagons, both of which were V/V from my perspective.
- Asks literal hundreds of questions, yet they don't inform her reads. I never saw her come back to any question she had asked prior. She asks them and moves on.
- Her actions such as the pinging of inactives and mechanical discussion look performative. Instead of wolfhunting, she tries to get people to do things; but not things that comprise wolfhunting.
- Her argument with Kyle is a major part of her d1 ISO. After it's over, though, she plops a townread on Kyle and never comes back to this. In her later readlists, Kyle actually trends down, but there's no visible reason for it.
- Her playstyle is extremely chaotic, but has no wolfhunting direction. She has stuck to three townreads her entire game. Her scumreads have fluctuated without a decent sense of progression. And her reasons for pushing some scumreads (which she does rarely; she has only done this twice in this entire game, as described below) are terrible.
- Her initial reason for pushing on Gavial is because he... easily claimed his role. And she doesn't even call him mafia, she says he's better off removed from the game because wolves can exploit his bad position, or he's mafia.
- Her reason for pushing on Jack is terrible. She pushes him because she thinks his case on her is a false narrative. Even when other people point out that it might not be, she ignores that. It's basically OMGUS.
- She writes a ton of LAMIST posts. Many include "I am very town"-type statements.
- Her posts look padded. She might just be a rambly person, but I've read all her long posts and they all say almost nothing of value. Makes me think they were written for towncred.

I really hate this game.

[Timsup2nothin]

Let's yeet Tim now.

No, let's not.

[Scotty]

Going down the WIFOM slide again weeeeeeee

if we flipped the below names

Enrique
lost monkey
made
master radiation
nacho

I'm calling 2 wolves at min and nothing of value lost.

Where's the mass kill button?

This was day 3, if I recall after KZA green checked made.

What are the odds at least 1 or even, as Mac said, “2 wolves at min” exist in the others?

I’m looking at monkey, nacho and Vulgard rn. Vulgard I’m more bullish on atm, and Radiation has had a positive presence so ima look into nacho and monkey first

[Jackofhearts2005]

Nachomamma's ISO I could best describe as inoffensive. There's nothing in it that definitively told me they have no TMI. But it is not a dumpster fire and I do not want to kill this yet.

Falcon's ISO is a step below that. He spent most of the game pushing LHF. The push on Marmot is especially notable because he's tunneled on it hard. If Marmot's mafia, then this looks better for him, but I currently don't think Marmot's a wolf.

Vibbing with these reads.

[DaisyCloud]

I am allowed to be town and have wrong reads?

[DaisyCloud]

I am allowed to be town and have wrong reads?

because I'm town and have wrong reads

[Scotty]

Because of LC’s shenanigans he forced me to look into him more, which I don’t think I would have done this phase anyway, but now that I did- I see a comparable w/w with Mac. I saw Vulgard iso’d him in a matter of 3 minutes and somehow came away that they don’t make a good w/w pairing, but I can’t really see how they came to that conclusion.

On the flip side, nacho has been the mildest and well-natured towards me, so he’s probably bad

Wait, what? Vulgard came away with "not a good pairing"? He has LC in his final team though...

Meanwhile...I tinfoil on you and act like a jerk, and that makes me bad...and Nacho is mild and well-natured, and that makes him bad? Could you make up your mind at some point please?

You tinfoiling me is not why I am (was) voting you. It’s your actions in thread.

ALSO also :$/“ did u know TIM is an anagram for TMI? I’m spewing Kyle-spiracies now

[Jackofhearts2005]

Going down the WIFOM slide again weeeeeeee

if we flipped the below names

Enrique
lost monkey
made
master radiation
nacho

I'm calling 2 wolves at min and nothing of value lost.

Where's the mass kill button?

This was day 3, if I recall after KZA green checked made.

What are the odds at least 1 or even, as Mac said, “2 wolves at min” exist in the others?

I’m looking at monkey, nacho and Vulgard rn. Vulgard I’m more bullish on atm, and Radiation has had a positive presence so ima look into nacho and monkey first

This is dumb but I feel like there’s always 1 or 2 wolves in that list.

[DaisyCloud]

if im scum idk how to distance. I have been hugging and clinging and sheeping my partners