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[Actvscenei]

If Garden Gnome is supposed to be an enigma wrapped inside a pancake, is it typical of her to ask pointed game-relevant questions like these?

Frankly, not that I’m aware of. But I don’t have as much gnome experience as others.

[Actvscenei]

@Garden Gnome, I don’t think much of the Hawk votes. What do you think of them?

[Seanzie]

If Garden Gnome is supposed to be an enigma wrapped inside a pancake, is it typical of her to ask pointed game-relevant questions like these?

Can you remind me to answer this in like an hour? (ongoing game - don't want to talk now)

[Actvscenei]

If Garden Gnome is supposed to be an enigma wrapped inside a pancake, is it typical of her to ask pointed game-relevant questions like these?

Frankly, not that I’m aware of. But I don’t have as much gnome experience as others.

To clarify, her posts are usually game relevant from what I’ve experienced, but they often feel scum-motivated and overall disjointed from the discussion.

[Garden Gnome]

Looks like these three have not posted since the fruit claim:

Alison
Made
Martin

Also technically possible Belzy could have done so but didn't think to before blasting Tangy.

Would have a lol if it's poison fruit and Alison is the target.

Ooohhh!! Theories! Lol Is poisoned fruit a thing in mafia?

Oh, wow, that would be a dramatic plot twist!

[Dana]

I don’t think anyone answered @Dana’s question (or @Made), so I’ll just do it.

Yes I am still a leader as mafia and yes I still do mass analysis. Instead of reading me on effort, I suggest reading me on content. My view of the game says a lot more about my alignment than raw notions of what my posts look like.

thanks for your answer! it does make me a lil sus of you but im gonna try to push that to the back of my mind for now bc I dont want to believe it

[Dana]

Kinda wish the shot hadn't been wasted on the second most obvious town in the game but

Mafc gonna mafc

can I ask who is the #1 most obvious town is in your opinion?

[Garden Gnome]

@Garden Gnome, I don’t think much of the Hawk votes. What do you think of them?

I don't know why Hawk is the counter wagon to Owner because I'm really not seeing scum in Hawk right now.

[Actvscenei]

I don’t think anyone answered @Dana’s question (or @Made), so I’ll just do it.

Yes I am still a leader as mafia and yes I still do mass analysis. Instead of reading me on effort, I suggest reading me on content. My view of the game says a lot more about my alignment than raw notions of what my posts look like.

thanks for your answer! it does make me a lil sus of you but im gonna try to push that to the back of my mind for now bc I dont want to believe it

What specifically makes you suspicious of Jay for that response? And why don’t you want to believe it?

[Kito]

If Garden Gnome is supposed to be an enigma wrapped inside a pancake, is it typical of her to ask pointed game-relevant questions like these?

She asks these questions all the time but doesn't always do something with the answers. The hard part is that it's NAI whether she does or not, lol.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Kinda wish the shot hadn't been wasted on the second most obvious town in the game but

Mafc gonna mafc

can I ask who is the #1 most obvious town is in your opinion?

You can probably guess the answer

[Seanzie]

Kinda wish the shot hadn't been wasted on the second most obvious town in the game but

Mafc gonna mafc

can I ask who is the #1 most obvious town is in your opinion?

You can probably guess the answer

me?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Kinda wish the shot hadn't been wasted on the second most obvious town in the game but

Mafc gonna mafc

can I ask who is the #1 most obvious town is in your opinion?

You can probably guess the answer

me?

Sadly no

[Actvscenei]

Kinda wish the shot hadn't been wasted on the second most obvious town in the game but

Mafc gonna mafc

can I ask who is the #1 most obvious town is in your opinion?

Can you answer the same question?

[Seanzie]

Kinda wish the shot hadn't been wasted on the second most obvious town in the game but

Mafc gonna mafc

can I ask who is the #1 most obvious town is in your opinion?

You can probably guess the answer

me?

Sadly no

Weird, I am a shining beacon of towniness.

[Garden Gnome]

If Garden Gnome is supposed to be an enigma wrapped inside a pancake, is it typical of her to ask pointed game-relevant questions like these?

She asks these questions all the time but doesn't always do something with the answers. The hard part is that it's NAI whether she does or not, lol.

Yes, that is a valid criticism of my play style. I tend to ask questions and then my follow-through is weak. I'm trying to make the questioning sessions more like a conversation, instead of the usual ask questions and disappear (which usually involves some AFK time). I hope that this helps.

[Dana]

I don’t think anyone answered @Dana’s question (or @Made), so I’ll just do it.

Yes I am still a leader as mafia and yes I still do mass analysis. Instead of reading me on effort, I suggest reading me on content. My view of the game says a lot more about my alignment than raw notions of what my posts look like.

thanks for your answer! it does make me a lil sus of you but im gonna try to push that to the back of my mind for now bc I dont want to believe it

What specifically makes you suspicious of Jay for that response? And why don’t you want to believe it?

it wasn't the response itself that made me suspicious, but I think the context gave me some paranoia about his posts this game in general. I got very very minorly pinged by something he said last twilight but idk how to articulate why it bothered me so ive been trying to ignore it and hope it goes away. I dont want to believe it bc I feel like JJJ is such a strong town player that it would kinda suck if he wasn't town

[Dana]

Kinda wish the shot hadn't been wasted on the second most obvious town in the game but

Mafc gonna mafc

can I ask who is the #1 most obvious town is in your opinion?

You can probably guess the answer

is it you?

[Actvscenei]

I don’t think anyone answered @Dana’s question (or @Made), so I’ll just do it.

Yes I am still a leader as mafia and yes I still do mass analysis. Instead of reading me on effort, I suggest reading me on content. My view of the game says a lot more about my alignment than raw notions of what my posts look like.

thanks for your answer! it does make me a lil sus of you but im gonna try to push that to the back of my mind for now bc I dont want to believe it

What specifically makes you suspicious of Jay for that response? And why don’t you want to believe it?

it wasn't the response itself that made me suspicious, but I think the context gave me some paranoia about his posts this game in general. I got very very minorly pinged by something he said last twilight but idk how to articulate why it bothered me so ive been trying to ignore it and hope it goes away. I dont want to believe it bc I feel like JJJ is such a strong town player that it would kinda suck if he wasn't town

Can you explain further what you mean by the context then?

[Dana]

Kinda wish the shot hadn't been wasted on the second most obvious town in the game but

Mafc gonna mafc

can I ask who is the #1 most obvious town is in your opinion?

Can you answer the same question?

good question. im not sure I would say anyone is super obvious town other than tangy rn, but looking at the list I would be ok with giving current townleans to you, Kito, hawk, and seanzie

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Kinda wish the shot hadn't been wasted on the second most obvious town in the game but

Mafc gonna mafc

can I ask who is the #1 most obvious town is in your opinion?

You can probably guess the answer

me?

Sadly no

Weird, I am a shining beacon of towniness.

Dang I must need my eyes checked

[Sloonei]

I’m developing a new theory, would like some feedback on it:

Owner is town.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Kinda wish the shot hadn't been wasted on the second most obvious town in the game but

Mafc gonna mafc

can I ask who is the #1 most obvious town is in your opinion?

You can probably guess the answer

is it you?

Thats a bingo

[Dana]

I don’t think anyone answered @Dana’s question (or @Made), so I’ll just do it.

Yes I am still a leader as mafia and yes I still do mass analysis. Instead of reading me on effort, I suggest reading me on content. My view of the game says a lot more about my alignment than raw notions of what my posts look like.

thanks for your answer! it does make me a lil sus of you but im gonna try to push that to the back of my mind for now bc I dont want to believe it

What specifically makes you suspicious of Jay for that response? And why don’t you want to believe it?

it wasn't the response itself that made me suspicious, but I think the context gave me some paranoia about his posts this game in general. I got very very minorly pinged by something he said last twilight but idk how to articulate why it bothered me so ive been trying to ignore it and hope it goes away. I dont want to believe it bc I feel like JJJ is such a strong town player that it would kinda suck if he wasn't town

Can you explain further what you mean by the context then?

the context of knowing that he goes hard for town as mafia also, kind of similar to what you said in your wall post. that a ton of effort makes you naturally want to read that as town, but that isn't always necessarily the case

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I’m developing a new theory, would like some feedback on it:

Owner is town.

Welcome to the club, we meet Tuesdays and Thursdays, custom club insignia shirts are 10 bucks but totally worth it

[Dana]

Kinda wish the shot hadn't been wasted on the second most obvious town in the game but

Mafc gonna mafc

can I ask who is the #1 most obvious town is in your opinion?

You can probably guess the answer

is it you?

Thats a bingo

who do you think the mafia are?

[Seanzie]

I’m developing a new theory, would like some feedback on it:

Owner is town.

No, owner is outed scum.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Kinda wish the shot hadn't been wasted on the second most obvious town in the game but

Mafc gonna mafc

can I ask who is the #1 most obvious town is in your opinion?

You can probably guess the answer

is it you?

Thats a bingo

who do you think the mafia are?

My votes on one!

[Sloonei]

I’m developing a new theory, would like some feedback on it:

Owner is town.

No, owner is outed scum.

Interesting rebuttal. Care to elaborate?

[Seanzie]

I’m developing a new theory, would like some feedback on it:

Owner is town.

No, owner is outed scum.

Interesting rebuttal. Care to elaborate?

No.

[Actvscenei]

I don’t think anyone answered @Dana’s question (or @Made), so I’ll just do it.

Yes I am still a leader as mafia and yes I still do mass analysis. Instead of reading me on effort, I suggest reading me on content. My view of the game says a lot more about my alignment than raw notions of what my posts look like.

thanks for your answer! it does make me a lil sus of you but im gonna try to push that to the back of my mind for now bc I dont want to believe it

What specifically makes you suspicious of Jay for that response? And why don’t you want to believe it?

it wasn't the response itself that made me suspicious, but I think the context gave me some paranoia about his posts this game in general. I got very very minorly pinged by something he said last twilight but idk how to articulate why it bothered me so ive been trying to ignore it and hope it goes away. I dont want to believe it bc I feel like JJJ is such a strong town player that it would kinda suck if he wasn't town

Can you explain further what you mean by the context then?

the context of knowing that he goes hard for town as mafia also, kind of similar to what you said in your wall post. that a ton of effort makes you naturally want to read that as town, but that isn't always necessarily the case

What’s your read on me?

[Dana]

I don’t think anyone answered @Dana’s question (or @Made), so I’ll just do it.

Yes I am still a leader as mafia and yes I still do mass analysis. Instead of reading me on effort, I suggest reading me on content. My view of the game says a lot more about my alignment than raw notions of what my posts look like.

thanks for your answer! it does make me a lil sus of you but im gonna try to push that to the back of my mind for now bc I dont want to believe it

What specifically makes you suspicious of Jay for that response? And why don’t you want to believe it?

it wasn't the response itself that made me suspicious, but I think the context gave me some paranoia about his posts this game in general. I got very very minorly pinged by something he said last twilight but idk how to articulate why it bothered me so ive been trying to ignore it and hope it goes away. I dont want to believe it bc I feel like JJJ is such a strong town player that it would kinda suck if he wasn't town

Can you explain further what you mean by the context then?

the context of knowing that he goes hard for town as mafia also, kind of similar to what you said in your wall post. that a ton of effort makes you naturally want to read that as town, but that isn't always necessarily the case

What’s your read on me?

I think you're town-ish

[Garden Gnome]

I’m developing a new theory, would like some feedback on it:

Owner is town.

Interesting theory. What do you think of the fruit vender thing and of Owner's disappearance in the thread? Could you give some details that would back up the theory?

[Garden Gnome]

I’m developing a new theory, would like some feedback on it:

Owner is town.

No, owner is outed scum.

Could you explain why Owner is outed scum? What caused the outing to occur?

[Seanzie]

I’m developing a new theory, would like some feedback on it:

Owner is town.

No, owner is outed scum.

Could you explain why Owner is outed scum? What caused the outing to occur?

I'm not willing to talk about it, but even without me staking my life on it, the disappearing fruit vendor thing is pretty darn telling.

[Actvscenei]

thanks for your answer! it does make me a lil sus of you but im gonna try to push that to the back of my mind for now bc I dont want to believe it

What specifically makes you suspicious of Jay for that response? And why don’t you want to believe it?

it wasn't the response itself that made me suspicious, but I think the context gave me some paranoia about his posts this game in general. I got very very minorly pinged by something he said last twilight but idk how to articulate why it bothered me so ive been trying to ignore it and hope it goes away. I dont want to believe it bc I feel like JJJ is such a strong town player that it would kinda suck if he wasn't town

Can you explain further what you mean by the context then?

the context of knowing that he goes hard for town as mafia also, kind of similar to what you said in your wall post. that a ton of effort makes you naturally want to read that as town, but that isn't always necessarily the case

What’s your read on me?

I think you're town-ish

Why?

[Tangrowth]

Busy, just here to move my vote, more later.

[VOTE: Owner] aubergine

[Dana]

What specifically makes you suspicious of Jay for that response? And why don’t you want to believe it?

it wasn't the response itself that made me suspicious, but I think the context gave me some paranoia about his posts this game in general. I got very very minorly pinged by something he said last twilight but idk how to articulate why it bothered me so ive been trying to ignore it and hope it goes away. I dont want to believe it bc I feel like JJJ is such a strong town player that it would kinda suck if he wasn't town

Can you explain further what you mean by the context then?

the context of knowing that he goes hard for town as mafia also, kind of similar to what you said in your wall post. that a ton of effort makes you naturally want to read that as town, but that isn't always necessarily the case

What’s your read on me?

I think you're town-ish

Why?

I attempted to explain to guillo as best as I could earlier, but basically I like your questioning of things going on. I had a moment of doubt about you earlier with the whole belzy thing after she flipped I was like... wait didn't act kinda try to get me to question my belzy read? but idk I think that could have been town analysis too which is never perfect since you're wrong about me also and im sure im wrong about a lot of others

[Sloonei]

I’m developing a new theory, would like some feedback on it:

Owner is town.

Interesting theory. What do you think of the fruit vender thing and of Owner's disappearance in the thread? Could you give some details that would back up the theory?

"Fruit vendor" is an atypical claim to make and the kind of thing that would almost certainly have to be at least somewhat tied to a real role, because it's too bizarre for someone, when pressed for a roleclaim, to blurt out "I gave someone fruit!" when there is an entire world of more common abilities available to players in mafia games.
Owner's "disappearance" can be attributed to anything. I will not provide an answer for her on that question.

[Dana]

I’m developing a new theory, would like some feedback on it:

Owner is town.

Interesting theory. What do you think of the fruit vender thing and of Owner's disappearance in the thread? Could you give some details that would back up the theory?

"Fruit vendor" is an atypical claim to make and the kind of thing that would almost certainly have to be at least somewhat tied to a real role, because it's too bizarre for someone, when pressed for a roleclaim, to blurt out "I gave someone fruit!" when there is an entire world of more common abilities available to players in mafia games.
Owner's "disappearance" can be attributed to anything. I will not provide an answer for her on that question.

I could be wrong but I thought someone mentioned she claimed some type of vendor in a past game? I will go look to verify but if thats the case I definitely think it could be a fake claim from something that she already knew existed in a game and had previous experience with

[Garden Gnome]

I’m developing a new theory, would like some feedback on it:

Owner is town.

No, owner is outed scum.

Could you explain why Owner is outed scum? What caused the outing to occur?

I'm not willing to talk about it, but even without me staking my life on it, the disappearing fruit vendor thing is pretty darn telling.

Okay, that could be so.
I was discussing the fruit vendor thing with Act, who offered this perspective on it. Can you tell me what you think of this? It seems that there are a lot of complicating factors with this being a closed set up.

"From my understanding, Owner claimed she sent fruit to someone. People assumed she sent the fruit to Jay. Jay said no fruit here. And Seanzie has been hardcore pushing for votes on her ever since. I mean, I’m generalizing, others have called her suspicious for the fruit too, I think, but no one is pushing for her votes more than Seanzie. So that’s what stands out to me.

My unsolicited opinion on the fruit matter is that she can easily lie about sending fruit to someone. It’s a closed game lol. Someone suggested it’s an easy check, but she can say “I sent fruit. No one got it? Ah man. Something must have interfered” and how could we argue that? Scum can easily hide behind claims this game. And sending fruit is such an easy claim to hide behind because it’s super harmless (I think?) and either someone confirms getting fruit or no one does and like I said, easy hideout. But if Owner did have an action and someone happened to see her, she can always say “it was the fruit” rather than perhaps something more sinister that she may have actually done. So long story short, she could easily still be scum. Or she could be town. Maybe she actually did send fruit haha."

[MacDougall]

Busy, just here to move my vote, more later.

[VOTE: Owner] aubergine

this is mafia manifest

[Sloonei]

Busy, just here to move my vote, more later.

[VOTE: Owner] aubergine

this is mafia manifest

psst hey tangy is mechanically confirmed town

[MacDougall]

Busy, just here to move my vote, more later.

[VOTE: Owner] aubergine

this is mafia manifest

psst hey tangy is mechanically confirmed town

I meant mafia the game we play not mafia the alignment

[MacDougall]

but also what when did that happen?

[Seanzie]

but also what when did that happen?

Belzy was desperado and shot Tangy, and Belzy died.

[Sloonei]

but also what when did that happen?

belzy the desperado shot tangy and belzy the desperado died

[hawkataine]

@hawkataine hey hawk, I was trying to remember but do you just make charts as town? I'm trying to remember if you also do them as scum or not. But I also don't recall a lot of your scum games.

Sometimes I do them as scum for ez town cred but that likely wouldn't work here lol
Also I don't remember how to play scum tbh tbh

@Owner of a Lonely Heart you're here!

Did you target JJJ?

I sent a fruit. It doesn't do much. The person I sent it to hasn't brought it up yet.

This definitely implies owner is actually caught up in which case all of my suspicions on her are valid

Well, unless I'm not following then maybe I'm drunk too

who's maf

I'm bothered by Belzy's lack of well, Belzy, and Owner just pinged me. Still don't know what Bunny is doing.

Hawks vote timing was poor too, but I'm not sold on Made.

Have only been skimming the thread at work so am behind, getting there.

hi this sounds like you know I'm town

Actually, let's just go back to [VOTE: Belzy] aubergine

You and Hawk still have scum equity.
IDGAF what you say.

this is a hilarious concept, I had two whole fights with guillo and everything (ily rly guillo)

gavial around this point is enjoying a very binary view of mafia where everyone who does what he says is town and everyone who doesn't is probs scum. Like I really don't know why he wants me dead this bad, possibly he came up with a genius plan overnight, but surely he has a strong enough grasp on mechanics to know his 'red check' is really not a red check

If your town and you vote scum.
You’ll have a lesser chance of getting ML’ed.
Just saying.

This is to bad bunny. It's like he's trying to save her except that I'm not gonna flip scum so his world makes no sense. He's actually done a lot of post-me-flipping-scum worldbuilding which is the thing that has me thinking he is town, but also I think I remember seeing that kind of logic in the scum game he was just in on MafC.

How much do you wanna make a bet one the players visiting Jay was some kind of after death effector but they couldn’t get their kill through due to me preventing Hawk from attacking.

This is like acknowledging that he knows JJJ was the scum NK?? Which doesn't add up because... I didn't go anywhere. So like, what world is this post referring to unless it's a slip???

Why not. Let's see how this sits.

[VOTE: hawkataine] aubergine

After being told gavial wasn't joking about the red check.
This isn't for reactions because you already said you liked my reaction. So how on earth is gavial's 100th post about this the one that finally tipped tha balance for you?

Why did bad bunny come to the thread and say things (barely) without so much as acknowledging the severe suspicion heaped upon her?

I mean this isn't true. Admittedly her comments were not compelling but she did acknowledge she was likely to be yeeted at some point

Going back to gavial briefly, he's super keen to come up with elaborate reasons why extra people were visiting JJJ but super not keen to come up with elaborate reasons why I might not have had the NK. Idk what this meaaaaans

I’m developing a new theory, would like some feedback on it:

Owner is town.

Interesting theory. What do you think of the fruit vender thing and of Owner's disappearance in the thread? Could you give some details that would back up the theory?

"Fruit vendor" is an atypical claim to make and the kind of thing that would almost certainly have to be at least somewhat tied to a real role, because it's too bizarre for someone, when pressed for a roleclaim, to blurt out "I gave someone fruit!" when there is an entire world of more common abilities available to players in mafia games.
Owner's "disappearance" can be attributed to anything. I will not provide an answer for her on that question.

Owner is probably the only person I would ever actively expect to claim fruit vendor if pressured fwiw

[hawkataine]

Oh also I finally caught up

[MacDougall]

but also what when did that happen?

Belzy was desperado and shot Tangy, and Belzy died.

oh that's bittersweet