The Elder Scrolls [GAME OVER]

#7051

Prob deep wolf wanting to stay hidden.

#7052

#7053

Shoot my mom told me not to engage with trolls and here I go again! Silly Scotty! Will I never learn?

#7054

Aight, I’m out for the night. Vulgard, quin, Kyle and marmot can’t get here fast enough

#7055

Scotty wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 12:28 am Aight, I’m out for the night. Vulgard, quin, Kyle and marmot can’t get here fast enough

100% agree.

#7056

hello everyone

#7057

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 12:44 amhello everyone

KYLE!!!!

Without looking at the thread, claim your action from last night so we can confirm something or catch someone lying and kill them!

#7058

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 12:50 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 12:44 amhello everyone
KYLE!!!!

Without looking at the thread, claim your action from last night so we can confirm something or catch someone lying and kill them!

i already looked at the thread lol. i always check my notifications first

#7059

well to start with, i did target marmot. this is correct.

#7060

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 12:53 am
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 12:50 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 12:44 amhello everyone
KYLE!!!!

Without looking at the thread, claim your action from last night so we can confirm something or catch someone lying and kill them!
i already looked at the thread lol. i always check my notifications first

So, claim an action that allows me to shout "the lie revealed!!!" and kill someone.

#7061

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 12:55 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 12:53 am
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 12:50 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 12:44 amhello everyone
KYLE!!!!

Without looking at the thread, claim your action from last night so we can confirm something or catch someone lying and kill them!
i already looked at the thread lol. i always check my notifications first
So, claim an action that allows me to shout "the lie revealed!!!" and kill someone.

i'm mulling over whether it's better to reveal now or ask marmot to go first.

#7062

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 1:04 am
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 12:55 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 12:53 am
Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 12:50 am
Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 12:44 amhello everyone
KYLE!!!!

Without looking at the thread, claim your action from last night so we can confirm something or catch someone lying and kill them!
i already looked at the thread lol. i always check my notifications first
So, claim an action that allows me to shout "the lie revealed!!!" and kill someone.
i'm mulling over whether it's better to reveal now or ask marmot to go first.

Ugh. Might be better if Marmot went first I guess, if he would know what you did to him.

#7063

sloonei's tricked me into learning about elder scrolls lore against my will

#7064

Kyle you can be Skuntank

#7065

why would i want to be skuntank

#7066

i'm trying to figure out what even question to ask

#7067

@Marmot what did you do last night and/or did you learn anything?

#7068

@Marmot please answer the question before reading the thread

#7069

this might actually be just really dumb.

#7070

i don't know if giving someone an opportunity to be caught lying really works as well when they already know they've been targeted with something lol

#7071

Jack

I thought that kill was obvious, he was the towniest player in the game.

I bus drove myself with TSP.

"Why not Jack?"

1. My bus drive doesn't redirect killing actions. I wouldn't have been able to protect anyone from a nightkill. As such, I decided to protect someone from wolf negative actions. I also picked someone unlikely to be targeted by town negative actions fmpov.
2. My action wasn't blocked (though idk if I would've been informed about that). Nothing really happened to me.

"Why not swap a wolfy player?"

1. I can only swap myself with another person. I have to be one of the targets.
2.

That's why I said it was potentially negative utility. All my other real options were on cooldown.

#7072

Looks like people are finally realizing LC isn't towny. And by people I mean Scotty.

That said, I 100% understand the suspicion on me. I didn't vote the wolf the first time we nailed one. I almost didn't vote the second one. I can't be credited with killing either of them.

The only argument I have for my defense is a lack of TMI on my end. If I were mafia, I wouldn't put myself in such an awful spot. I understand why that wouldn't be believable, though.

#7073

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 3:05 am Looks like people are finally realizing LC isn't towny. And by people I mean Scotty.

That said, I 100% understand the suspicion on me. I didn't vote the wolf the first time we nailed one. I almost didn't vote the second one. I can't be credited with killing either of them.

The only argument I have for my defense is a lack of TMI on my end. If I were mafia, I wouldn't put myself in such an awful spot. I understand why that wouldn't be believable, though.

FWIW in the one wolf between Vulgard and Radishes world if I had to pull the trigger right now I would chop Radishes first. I am intrigued by this Gavial/Kyle/Marmot business right now though so solving the two of you has gone to a back burner simmer.

If LC is a wolf who would you say are the top three prospects for being his partner?

#7074

I'm playing this mostly by PoE and less by association. I have no idea who his partners would be. My reads have been trash so far (I almost shielded a wolf, I pushed Tim who's ?probably? just town here), so I'm not going to worldbuild. My name isn't Gavial.

#7075

At this point I just want to kill people outside of the Falcon wagon, because that wagon seemed pure to me. I've talked about it at length already.

#7076

Scotty and MR could both be mafia tbh. My reads might've been bad but Scotty has wolfsided a lot. A lot lot. Not sure if it goes beyond the point of "town who's having a bad game" or not, but he also wasn't voting Falcon at EoD. And I'm loath to kill people on the Falcon wagon given everything I've said so far.

#7077

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#7078

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#7079

This sure is a game of mafia.

#7080

Eight spoiler tags and the gif doesn't show. I am murdering Kyle.

#7081

I've just realized I called Scotty LC's partner, even though Scotty's the main LC pusher today not called Vulgard.

I don't know what I'm doing.

#7082

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 3:58 am Eight spoiler tags and the gif doesn't show. I am murdering Kyle.

there was supposed to be 10 tags

#7083

I want to say it's Tim but the Mac kill would be unexplained if it was Tim. If Tim isn't the vig that shot him then there should've been a CC by now.

#7084

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 3:59 am I've just realized I called Scotty LC's partner, even though Scotty's the main LC pusher today not called Vulgard.

I don't know what I'm doing.

Happens to us all.

#7085

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:00 am I want to say it's Tim but the Mac kill would be unexplained if it was Tim. If Tim isn't the vig that shot him then there should've been a CC by now.

Welcome to playing with me. I annoy the town and constantly say wolfy things...and I almost always get a pelt before it really turns into "we just gotta kill Tim here" though. And I have a history of playing hard for sweeps as a wolf, so my bussing usually consists of piling on a partner that has legit self destructed...not blasting Mac sideways out of the blue.

#7086

Vulgard why are you not just saying "if there's one in me and Radishes, okay so Radishes." Are you just confident that I am not right, do you have some strong clear on Radishes that I'm missing, is there something else?

I felt like the thread was going along with me yesterday and really kinda waiting for me to decide, and when Jack suggested the punt and I went along that was what kept it from turning into a you or him situation. And I still am not comfortable making that pick.

#7087

Because I'm not opportunistic. I don't see the thread being like "me or Radishes" and go "okay let's kill Radishes." I will self-pres onto him if necessary but I don't think he's a wolf as much as I think LC is.

Might be +EV for me to go for Radishes anyway but eh. Also if he's town you're going to kill me next because of this preflip and that's two MLs.

#7088

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:15 am Because I'm not opportunistic. I don't see the thread being like "me or Radishes" and go "okay let's kill Radishes." I will self-pres onto him if necessary but I don't think he's a wolf as much as I think LC is.

Might be +EV for me to go for Radishes anyway but eh. Also if he's town you're going to kill me next because of this preflip and that's two MLs.

Why do you think he's town is kinda the core question. I get that we disagree on LC, but it isn't like there's only one wolf or a designated order we have to kill them in. I do also understand that preflip read anxiety about it turning into two mischops...and trust me no matter how sure of myself I might sound if I flip one of you and I'm wrong that green flip will be enough to make me doubt the whole game worth of reads.

But the best way to help me, seriously, is help me get there on Radishes if he really is town. That leaves me in a deep dark hole where you if wolf have just done something absolutely crazy by clearing the alternative. From there I have no choice but a full reset, really. So, how is it that Radishes is just town?

#7089

I don't think Radishes is town at this point. I doubt I implied that in any of my posts today. I called MR and Scotty potential partners, for one.

But I think LC is more wolfy than he is.

It might just be better to kill Radishes, I know. It's a case of "I think LC is a wolf and that I need to push it because nobody else will." Then again I've already pushed on Tim and mechanically he is almost always town.

#7090

I think I'm okay with killing Radishes.

But Long Con.

Also the third wolf is probably non-obvious. Leaning Scotty but idk really.

#7091

Sheeping my townreads hasn't led me astray yet, maybe I should just vote MR.

#7092

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:34 am Sheeping my townreads hasn't led me astray yet, maybe I should just vote MR.

I wanna see what comes bubbling up out of the ground when Marmot turns up, but we might just do that. If we hadn't gotten a wolf yesterday I'd be hard up against having to take a fifty fifty shot here on the two of you, but maybe a partner appears off the mech and just clears one of you and we cruise to a win...or the 3P has marked us for Molag Ball and the Mace just crushes everyone and we don't have to worry about wolfhunting at all.

#7093

See you guys in the morning.

#7094

In this situation, I'm basically on cruise control. Based on my results so far, I don't trust my reads in this game. My reasons for clearing LM were thin, and it was a wolf. I pushed Tim and he's almost certainly town, worst-case 3p. Despite having Falcon in my PoE, I voted Tim over Falcon when Falcon flipped mafia.

At this point, the only reason I'm self-preserving is that I'm unsure if my death will be good for the town. Certainly, you learn that I'm a villager, but that doesn't really help you. That won't clear anyone who's pushing me. In return, you lose my night actions (most of which aren't that great, but still), a town voice, and an opportunity to yeet a mafia member.

#7095

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 3:03 am Jack

I thought that kill was obvious, he was the towniest player in the game.

I bus drove myself with TSP.

"Why not Jack?"

1. My bus drive doesn't redirect killing actions. I wouldn't have been able to protect anyone from a nightkill. As such, I decided to protect someone from wolf negative actions. I also picked someone unlikely to be targeted by town negative actions fmpov.
2. My action wasn't blocked (though idk if I would've been informed about that). Nothing really happened to me.

"Why not swap a wolfy player?"

1. I can only swap myself with another person. I have to be one of the targets.
2.

That's why I said it was potentially negative utility. All my other real options were on cooldown.

Why TSP though, like no one targets that guy.

#7096

Vulgard wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:34 am Sheeping my townreads hasn't led me astray yet, maybe I should just vote MR.

He’s the big brain play.
Sheep me.

#7097

But no at this point I honestly think Scotty can be Mafia/3P if 3P isn’t SK.
That would also mean in the case Scotty is 3P I suppose Tim could actually be mafia.
I think Kyle is town.
I think Long Con is town.
I think Radish is town.

#7098

Daisy too
Not sure on TSP

#7099

Leaning 2 of Marmot/Vulgard/Scotty as Mafia.

#7100

Tim goes in there if Scotty flips 3P I think.

Who is Molag Bal's Champion?