The Elder Scrolls [GAME OVER]

[Scotty]

I could go back to voting MR lol

But I just gotta know Marmot

[Scotty]

If marmot flips 3P, does that reset everyone’s expectations?

[DaisyCloud]

Daisy's been alive for six straight days and she has somehow managed to not make a single alignment read the entire time she was here. Not only that, but she has been consistently voting away from wolf wagons. She also has the audacity to complain every single time someone brings up the possibility of her being mafia with these prerequisites.

@DaisyCloud can you confirm or debunk the assertion that you have never made an alignment read or voted for a wolf?

I have been giving my reads. I have voted out wolves.

I listed what alignments I think people are.

I have mistakes. I read some people as wolf and it turned out they were town. I have mislynched too. I thought Mac could be town.

I admitted to my mistakes.

show me where I never lynched falcon and monkey and I will blast you to kingdom come for cheating. because 8 did vote them out.

I gave reasons based on my actions why I think Gavial and scotty are not 3rd party.

I asked if those could be wrong based on bus.

show me where I never gave out my reads and such on players and I will blast you out the game for cheating.

I have been scum hunting. I have been focused on finding scum. I have posts where I let you all know where my reads are on players.

Do not lie and say I haven't voted out wolves.

if you r going to scum read me then this is the most ridiculous way to do it that I have ever seen.

you do know that eod vote polls exist right? you guys do know you can look and read people's posts and those can't be deleted.

you need to stop this right now

[DaisyCloud]

@Vulgard not only r you straight up lying. this is to far of a lie.

proof is in my isos. proof is in the eod polls.

you need to redact and shut this completely wrong and false narrative.

if you even think for one second I will let you get away with this you are completely delusional.

[DaisyCloud]

@Vulgard this is beyond ridiculous.

[DaisyCloud]

there is absolutely no excuse for his straight up lying

[DaisyCloud]

Host ISOs:
Sloonei
JaggedJimmyJay

Active Players (10):
DaisyCloud
Enrique / Vulgard
Gavial
Kylemii
Long Con
Marmot
Master Radishes / Quin
Scotty
Timsup2nothin
TonyStarkPrime

Eliminated Players (14):
Seanzie - Argonian Mage, Town - Eliminated on Day 1
Alison - Argonian Smuggler, Town - Killed on Night 1
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME - Black Marsh General, Town - Killed on Night 1
Qwags - Bosmer Adventurer, Town - Eliminated on Day 2
Syn - Vigilant of Stendarr, Town - Killed on Night 2
Moghedien / Stupid Sexy Flanders - Khajiit Wanderer, Town - Eliminated on Day 3
BoKnows - Orc Bard, Town - Killed on Night 3
KZA - Breton Apprentice, Town - Killed on Night 3
MacDougall - Breton Monk, Mafia - Killed on Night 3
falcon45ca - Redguard Mercenary, Mafia - Eliminated on Day 4
Made - Ashland Trader, Town - Killed Night 4
Nachomamma8 - Imperial Guard, Town - Killed Night 4
lost monkey - Nord Warrior, Mafia - Eliminated Day 5
Jackofhearts2005 - Nord Scholar, Town - Killed Night 5

Additional Game Info

Rules -- Mechanics

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All players must access a Shrine each night as long as one is available to them.
If no Shrine is available to a player on any given night, that player does nothing.
A roleblocked player still accesses a Shrine, but they fail to perform any abilities associated with the Shrine.
Roleblocks are the first night action to resolve.
If a player is roleblocked while performing an X-shot ability, their shot is still spent.
A roleblocked player is still subject to any role restrictions regarding their access to the Shrine they were blocked at.
The Mafia team kill is compulsory. If they fail or neglect to submit a target, one will be chosen for them at random among all living players.

Rules -- Votes & Phases

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Day phases will last roughly 48 hours. Night phases will last roughly 24 hours. The hosts will do their best to ensure consistent deadline times.
Votes must be cast in the poll to be counted. Players are also encouraged to call their votes in the thread using vote tags.
The player with the most votes at the end of each Day phase will be banished.
Self-votes will not count. Players are allowed to self-vote, but the vote's value will be 0.
Votes are always changeable.
Due to the complexity of the setup, players must submit their night actions prior to one hour before the start of each Day phase. Any night actions submitted less than an hour prior to the start of a Day phase will not be counted.

Rules -- Gameplay

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No unauthorized BTSC (Behind the Scenes Communication). All game-related conversation must take place in the game thread or in designated BTSC channels approved by the Host.
Roleclaiming and infodumping are legal at the discretion of the players. Note, however, that the game’s mechanics may serve to deter claims of any sort.
All game-related questions and concerns for the hosts should be asked in private. The hosts will not address any questions asked in the thread. Players may not refer to private communication with the hosts in the game thread.
Avoid excessive appeals to emotion and exploitation of out-of-game information (“angleshooting”). Judgment and enforcement of this rule is left to the hosts’ discretion. If you have any questions or feel that you or another player are at risk of violating this rule, please contact the hosts or moderator in private.
The Moderator on Duty for this game is JaggedJimmyJay. Please contact him if you have any grievances, disputes, or emotional difficulties while playing this game.
Talos worship is permitted.
All community guidelines regarding player conduct and behavior are in place.
Dead players may not make any on-topic posts in the game thread unless specifically permitted. Except for those dead players with permission to post on-topic, any off-topic posts from dead players should be in dead red font.
Players are encouraged to use Off-topic Green font for any lengthy off-topic sections of text.
This is the Host color. All official host announcements will appear in this font. Players should avoid using it in the thread.
Watch the skies, traveler.

Host’s pledge
This game features many unique roles and abilities, and has some non-standard mechanics. I promise you, the players, that I have done everything in my power to ensure a fair and balanced game for all alignments. I believe there are no “bastard” elements in this game and the general structure of mafia remains intact. While there may be roles which obscure player access to information, the hosts will never otherwise lie to players. There is no potential for any players to change alignment during the game. This game features no mechanical cults, jesters, millers, godfathers, or other such roles.


Polls

Day 1

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Day 2

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Day 3

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Day4

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Day 5

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let the record show

[DaisyCloud]

and why the heck would @Long Con or anyone even listen to a word he said???!!???

[DaisyCloud]

Vulgardis straight up lying when he says i never voted out monkey and falcon and lying about how I never gave my reads

[Vulgard]

sus

[Long Con]

and why the heck would @Long Con or anyone even listen to a word he said???!!???

Because I'm a reasonable guy. Note that my only response was to tag you... I don't know why you'd call me out like this.

[Scotty]

Lol Daisy if you finished reading his posts you would see he retracted that after looking into it

[Timsup2nothin]

If marmot flips 3P, does that reset everyone’s expectations?

Well it would be a lot better than a clean miss but I would still be left with considering turboing Vulgard. Probably wouldn't though because the 3P scares the crap out of me and just from feeling better I'd probably give him a day pass.

[Long Con]

If marmot flips 3P, does that reset everyone’s expectations?

Not in the slightest.

[Scotty]

And once again Daisy entered thread to call out anyone sussing her and not commenting at all on the game state.

[Scotty]

Oh she also moved her vote to no vote some time


Yo. Moving votes around without transparency in thread is sus

[Gavial]

And once again Daisy entered thread to call out anyone sussing her and not commenting at all on the game state.

Sus is the @DaisyCloud

[Gavial]

Oh she also moved her vote to no vote some time


Yo. Moving votes around without transparency in thread is sus

Clearly her read on me is a “lie”
Because all of her reasonings is that someone “lie”.

And ugh, she never voted Marmot this entire game so like she has nothing to say about that apparently and nothing to say about making LM vote Mog during Day 3.
Sus.

[Marmot]

Hi, why do I have votes here and what happened?

[DaisyCloud]

Oh she also moved her vote to no vote some time


Yo. Moving votes around without transparency in thread is sus

Clearly her read on me is a “lie”
Because all of her reasonings is that someone “lie”.

And ugh, she never voted Marmot this entire game so like she has nothing to say about that apparently and nothing to say about making LM vote Mog during Day 3.
Sus.

I have to voted Marmot

[Marmot]

I'm not a 3P but I don't really know how to prove that, because I don't know what the 3P is.

[Marmot]

@Marmot
Since your scum you can show Daisy why I’m town since you know I am!

I don't know what this means or why you're pinging me so many times.

[Timsup2nothin]

why you're pinging me so many times

Story of the game.

[Marmot]

I did townread you before Gav, but I'm no longer confident after your sudden onslaught of pressure on me.

I thought you had solid 3P potential, the reason being that your early claims were too easy and not verifiable. You tracked Nanook Night 1, but he died. You watched KZA Night 2 and claimed no one visited (no one has argued this yet, but I still find it a little surprising). But Daisy claims that your confirmed not 3P.

I don't understand how you 180'd on me today, or why you're expecting a detailed analysis of why you're town when you don't have an analysis of why I'm not town.

[Marmot]

Messed up the post but I’ll try and be nice.
I mean dude your brain is malfunctioning because Marmot is 100% scum in my eyes with 100% Positivity.

This is not nice tbh. There are ways to explain to someone you disagree with them without dismissing their cognitive capabilities.

[Marmot]

@TonyStarkPrime
I hope you know if your town your throwing the game by not voting me or marmot.
Thank you!

Why is the choice between you or me? Are you actually just scum trying to take me down with you?

[Marmot]

Oh she also moved her vote to no vote some time


Yo. Moving votes around without transparency in thread is sus

Clearly her read on me is a “lie”
Because all of her reasonings is that someone “lie”.

And ugh, she never voted Marmot this entire game so like she has nothing to say about that apparently and nothing to say about making LM vote Mog during Day 3.
Sus.

I have to voted Marmot

Vote me again, it'll be more fun.

[Sloonei]

It appears we will be late to post the results at the end of this day phase today. I apologize for this. The thread should be treated as locked after the deadline. I'll get the results to you all as quickly as possible.

[Marmot]

I guess this'll just be a silent EOD and I'll die without any discussion?

Current reads right now:


Tim
Scotty
Kyle
TSP
Daisy
Vulgard
Gavial
Long Con
MR

I don't have much insight on who the 3P is. It appears not to be among Gavial and Scotty. I don't think TSP is it. That leaves pretty much everyone else (except for probably MR, due to the inactivity of his original slot).

[DaisyCloud]

Lol Daisy if you finished reading his posts you would see he retracted that after looking into it

first of all, I am not caught up in the game. I got a ping from LongCon and I was responding to it. I was not aware that Vulgard redacted or whatever.

[DaisyCloud]

Oh she also moved her vote to no vote some time


Yo. Moving votes around without transparency in thread is sus

Clearly her read on me is a “lie”
Because all of her reasonings is that someone “lie”.

And ugh, she never voted Marmot this entire game so like she has nothing to say about that apparently and nothing to say about making LM vote Mog during Day 3.
Sus.

okay first of all you both need to chill.

especially you Gavial.

actually everyone needs to chill


y'all acting crazy.

[Scotty]

I guess this'll just be a silent EOD and I'll die without any discussion?

Current reads right now:


Tim
Scotty
Kyle
TSP
Daisy
Vulgard
Gavial
Long Con
MR

I don't have much insight on who the 3P is. It appears not to be among Gavial and Scotty. I don't think TSP is it. That leaves pretty much everyone else (except for probably MR, due to the inactivity of his original slot).

Do you think LC’s role reveal is a gambit designed to reward him townie points?

[Marmot]

>:(

[Marmot]

Oh I missed LC's role reveal, I'll go look at it.

[Scotty]

I don’t know what this means or why you're pinging me so many times

Story of the game.

Fixed the full quote for you

[Marmot]

Oh, actually I did see that, I just completely forgot about it lol

[Scotty]

Oh I missed LC's role reveal, I'll go look at it.

Interesting that you posted a full rainbow list before reading the whole thread.

[Scotty]

Oh, actually I did see that, I just completely forgot about it lol

Ah, and yet he’s still a strong mafia to you?

[Scotty]

I guess this'll just be a silent EOD and I'll die without any discussion?

Current reads right now:


Tim
Scotty
Kyle
TSP
Daisy
Vulgard
Gavial
Long Con
MR

I don't have much insight on who the 3P is. It appears not to be among Gavial and Scotty. I don't think TSP is it. That leaves pretty much everyone else (except for probably MR, due to the inactivity of his original slot).

If it’s not you, it’s probably LC tbh

[Marmot]

Oh I missed LC's role reveal, I'll go look at it.

Interesting that you posted a full rainbow list before reading the whole thread.

I'm not going to read every post in this game (I skipped a lot from Days 1-2), nor am I going to let that stop me from offering reads.

What is your concern with it?

[Scotty]

Also it’s been a rather...uh...”lively” isn’t the right word here...verbose day. Eod be damned, I’m just tired and ready for this day to be over

[Scotty]

Oh I missed LC's role reveal, I'll go look at it.

Interesting that you posted a full rainbow list before reading the whole thread.

I'm not going to read every post in this game (I skipped a lot from Days 1-2), nor am I going to let that stop me from offering reads.

What is your concern with it?

Justification of my confirmation bias for voting you

[Marmot]

LC could still be scum in a world where tim is his teammate, or his team never intended to kill tim, and he has an easy path to claiming.

I think it's more likely that he's town or possibly 3P, but I don't think he's a good yeet today based on that.

[Marmot]

Oh I missed LC's role reveal, I'll go look at it.

Interesting that you posted a full rainbow list before reading the whole thread.

I'm not going to read every post in this game (I skipped a lot from Days 1-2), nor am I going to let that stop me from offering reads.

What is your concern with it?

Justification of my confirmation bias for voting you

What is your confirmation bias for voting me?

[Marmot]

Oh, actually I did see that, I just completely forgot about it lol

Ah, and yet he’s still a strong mafia to you?

I made that read with an insufficient amount of information and it is henceforth adjusted.

[DaisyCloud]

when did LongCon claim?

[Long Con]

I want you to know that your signature makes it imperative to vote for you, given the number of times you have been the counterwagon.

[Long Con]

when did LongCon claim?

Maybe.... yesterday?

[Long Con]

I think Tim is town, and I didn't want to yeet falcon for reasons unrelated to this game.

For context, this post came during I believe twilight after Day 1 ended. Sean was yeeted over falcon 6-3.

@Long Con is this something you can explain now or no?

Yeah, the Bluey game is over. Falcon had just been yeeted as town on Day 1 in that game on the same day, and I didn't want to yeet him on Day 1 here as well.

What are the odds mafia still have a blocker in their midst?

Probably pretty good odds, considering the multifunctional nature of many of the roles. JOATs everywhere.

Well, I guess Exe isn't 3p then, whatever Exe is.

I'm think exe is executioner

Still never heard of it before, so it's a role that has the win con of certain executions happening?

LC is blind as a bat apparently and he’s very vague about everything when he visits shrines.

“I now know that nothing happens.

*unless*

And *unless* hasn't happened yet.”

Whatever that means

I think LC is 3P/scum

No, I am town. I can claim my full role if it will help you out.

Sure, why not? I don't see the harm.

I can visit any shrine I wish each night, and if a player who visits the same shrine as me gets nightkilled then I get their most recent/current night action report.

[DaisyCloud]

No one took my side on Daisy and tried to help me show how I’m town so Daisy sees it too.

look man. I read that post you made.

it doesn't tell me how Marmot is scum.