Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [ENDGAME]

[Alison]

So you are saying you wouldn't have played day 2 the way you did?

Thats reasonable tbh.

yeah that's basically what I'm saying.

[bad bunny]

jjj or sloonei, one of them is scum but which one?

why not both?

[Alison]

well sorry but im not a tryhard at mafia

I want to flip who i scumread, quite simply. and if youve been paying attention, my votes have been on Owner(likely to get lynched), JJJ (unlikely to get votes), Martin (unlikely to get votes until now apparently). People getting a lot of heat have been people I mostly think are town (hawk, allcrab, act, longcon).

there is a difference between not being a tryhard and turning a town killing role into what is now effectively vanilla town because you were upset that nobody you suspected was in the POE.

[MacDougall]

Easy answer is that they started off trying to use their poison to spk, then subsequently they realised there were healers and targeted people less likely to be healed.

I am not entirely sure that the poisoner isn't mafia? They have yet to line up with a mafia nk. Their targets have been probably all town? Where is the notion that the poisoner is 3p actually coming from? It's not like the flipped mafia had powerful God roles. Maybe they just have 2kp?

[Alison]

Easy answer is that they started off trying to use their poison to spk, then subsequently they realised there were healers and targeted people less likely to be healed.

I am not entirely sure that the poisoner isn't mafia? They have yet to line up with a mafia nk. Their targets have been probably all town? Where is the notion that the poisoner is 3p actually coming from? It's not like the flipped mafia had powerful God roles. Maybe they just have 2kp?

then why continue to do it even after the healers ran out of shots? why not poison JJJ, or sloon today?

[MacDougall]

well sorry but im not a tryhard at mafia

I want to flip who i scumread, quite simply. and if youve been paying attention, my votes have been on Owner(likely to get lynched), JJJ (unlikely to get votes), Martin (unlikely to get votes until now apparently). People getting a lot of heat have been people I mostly think are town (hawk, allcrab, act, longcon).

there is a difference between not being a tryhard and turning a town killing role into what is now effectively vanilla town because you were upset that nobody you suspected was in the POE.

Let's leave this one be k?

[lost monkey]

jjj or sloonei, one of them is scum but which one?

why not both?

Its possible but I don't think so.

[bad bunny]

Easy answer is that they started off trying to use their poison to spk, then subsequently they realised there were healers and targeted people less likely to be healed.

I am not entirely sure that the poisoner isn't mafia? They have yet to line up with a mafia nk. Their targets have been probably all town? Where is the notion that the poisoner is 3p actually coming from? It's not like the flipped mafia had powerful God roles. Maybe they just have 2kp?

yea it makes sense they didnt like the healing actually

or even something smarter which is realising the healers would spend it on alison and then they were free to poison whoever once they all got used up.

[MacDougall]

Easy answer is that they started off trying to use their poison to spk, then subsequently they realised there were healers and targeted people less likely to be healed.

I am not entirely sure that the poisoner isn't mafia? They have yet to line up with a mafia nk. Their targets have been probably all town? Where is the notion that the poisoner is 3p actually coming from? It's not like the flipped mafia had powerful God roles. Maybe they just have 2kp?

then why continue to do it even after the healers ran out of shots? why not poison JJJ, or sloon today?

Why wouldn't a 3p poison Jay or Sloon today? The reason is probably the same. Dodge investigative, target someone who never gets healed.

If they're 3p though I wonder if their win con is to poison a certain number of players rather than LMS.

[bad bunny]

well sorry but im not a tryhard at mafia

I want to flip who i scumread, quite simply. and if youve been paying attention, my votes have been on Owner(likely to get lynched), JJJ (unlikely to get votes), Martin (unlikely to get votes until now apparently). People getting a lot of heat have been people I mostly think are town (hawk, allcrab, act, longcon).

there is a difference between not being a tryhard and turning a town killing role into what is now effectively vanilla town because you were upset that nobody you suspected was in the POE.

why couldnt i use it later on in the game once my reads got clearer??

[MacDougall]

jjj or sloonei, one of them is scum but which one?

is this mech or just a read? or is it just hypothetical?

[Alison]

sloonei has commited himself into doing something that proves his alignment one way or another by the end of today, so if there is one mafia between jjj and sloonei it has to be jjj. I'm not sure where you're getting that dichotomy from though.

[Actvscenei]

jjj or sloonei, one of them is scum but which one?

why not both?

Its possible but I don't think so.

So you don’t believe Sloonei’s claim? Can you explain why? The way I’ve thought about it: if he is scum making this claim, what purpose does it serve? We seem to believe there can be multiple roles this game so it wouldn’t really hard anyone enough to cc. If he has a kill, why not just use it secretly?

[MacDougall]

I think the operative here is that the claimed healers claimed to have run out of shots. There's nothing really preventing there from being unclaimed heals. Sloonei for instance could have become one. Heck maybe there's another uni back up.

If the 3p wincon is to poison a certain number of players or something there could be chunkloads of heal ability in this game.

LC was town so mafia healer obvs not gonna target him. Town healers not either cuz he was kinda POE. Hell Jay literally asked healers not to save him.

I am beginning to think that the poison mechanic might be the thing that ends up fucking the town more than the Mafia. Especially if the poisoner is a 3p and deep towncore member.

[lost monkey]

jjj or sloonei, one of them is scum but which one?

is this mech or just a read? or is it just hypothetical?

Hypothetical but also with how the NK's are progressing and their reads.

[Actvscenei]

EBWOP: it wouldn’t really jar anyone* lol dunno where my phone got “hard” from that

[MacDougall]

jjj or sloonei, one of them is scum but which one?

is this mech or just a read? or is it just hypothetical?

Hypothetical but also with how the NK's are progressing and their reads.

It's entirely plausible they've both been targeted for NKs at this point don't you think?

[lost monkey]

jjj or sloonei, one of them is scum but which one?

why not both?

Its possible but I don't think so.

So you don’t believe Sloonei’s claim? Can you explain why? The way I’ve thought about it: if he is scum making this claim, what purpose does it serve? We seem to believe there can be multiple roles this game so it wouldn’t really hard anyone enough to cc. If he has a kill, why not just use it secretly?

sloonei has claimed? I haven't caught up, just saw the kills and came to that conclusion.

[MacDougall]

N1 no kill.
N2 wtf kill.
N3 bg dies.

If the n2 kill was redirected its possible that the Mafia have not killed a single person they intended to yet.

[lost monkey]

jjj or sloonei, one of them is scum but which one?

is this mech or just a read? or is it just hypothetical?

Hypothetical but also with how the NK's are progressing and their reads.

It's entirely plausible they've both been targeted for NKs at this point don't you think?

jjj maybe, sloonei nah.

[MacDougall]

jjj or sloonei, one of them is scum but which one?

why not both?

Its possible but I don't think so.

So you don’t believe Sloonei’s claim? Can you explain why? The way I’ve thought about it: if he is scum making this claim, what purpose does it serve? We seem to believe there can be multiple roles this game so it wouldn’t really hard anyone enough to cc. If he has a kill, why not just use it secretly?

sloonei has claimed? I haven't caught up, just saw the kills and came to that conclusion.

1 shot uni back up. Has the desperado shot. Wants input on who to shoot.

[Actvscenei]

jjj or sloonei, one of them is scum but which one?

why not both?

Its possible but I don't think so.

So you don’t believe Sloonei’s claim? Can you explain why? The way I’ve thought about it: if he is scum making this claim, what purpose does it serve? We seem to believe there can be multiple roles this game so it wouldn’t really hard anyone enough to cc. If he has a kill, why not just use it secretly?

sloonei has claimed? I haven't caught up, just saw the kills and came to that conclusion.

He claimed 1-shot universal backup which turned into a 1-shot desperado. He’s been asking who he should kill.

[MacDougall]

jjj or sloonei, one of them is scum but which one?

is this mech or just a read? or is it just hypothetical?

Hypothetical but also with how the NK's are progressing and their reads.

It's entirely plausible they've both been targeted for NKs at this point don't you think?

jjj maybe, sloonei nah.

Do you have a hypothesis on who was targeted n1? Sloonei had a vest and Hawk is confirmed town healer now. Without any doc claims to the contrary it just looks like it was aimed at him.

[lost monkey]

jjj or sloonei, one of them is scum but which one?

why not both?

Its possible but I don't think so.

So you don’t believe Sloonei’s claim? Can you explain why? The way I’ve thought about it: if he is scum making this claim, what purpose does it serve? We seem to believe there can be multiple roles this game so it wouldn’t really hard anyone enough to cc. If he has a kill, why not just use it secretly?

sloonei has claimed? I haven't caught up, just saw the kills and came to that conclusion.

1 shot uni back up. Has the desperado shot. Wants input on who to shoot.

Should use it on act or nanook probably.

[MacDougall]

jjj or sloonei, one of them is scum but which one?

why not both?

Its possible but I don't think so.

So you don’t believe Sloonei’s claim? Can you explain why? The way I’ve thought about it: if he is scum making this claim, what purpose does it serve? We seem to believe there can be multiple roles this game so it wouldn’t really hard anyone enough to cc. If he has a kill, why not just use it secretly?

sloonei has claimed? I haven't caught up, just saw the kills and came to that conclusion.

1 shot uni back up. Has the desperado shot. Wants input on who to shoot.

Should use it on act or nanook probably.

Nanook?

[bad bunny]

I think the operative here is that the claimed healers claimed to have run out of shots. There's nothing really preventing there from being unclaimed heals. Sloonei for instance could have become one. Heck maybe there's another uni back up.

If the 3p wincon is to poison a certain number of players or something there could be chunkloads of heal ability in this game.

LC was town so mafia healer obvs not gonna target him. Town healers not either cuz he was kinda POE. Hell Jay literally asked healers not to save him.

I am beginning to think that the poison mechanic might be the thing that ends up fucking the town more than the Mafia. Especially if the poisoner is a 3p and deep towncore member.

interesting

could also ISO the poison targets to see if we all had one person in our PoE at one point? or if the targets are totally random and there is no pattern

[lost monkey]

jjj or sloonei, one of them is scum but which one?

is this mech or just a read? or is it just hypothetical?

Hypothetical but also with how the NK's are progressing and their reads.

It's entirely plausible they've both been targeted for NKs at this point don't you think?

jjj maybe, sloonei nah.

Do you have a hypothesis on who was targeted n1? Sloonei had a vest and Hawk is confirmed town healer now. Without any doc claims to the contrary it just looks like it was aimed at him.

I can probably guess who from synd targeted jay but its useful to scum not us. I am damn sure allcrab is town, i believe his claims and so should all of you. Scum can probably both kill and use there abilities on the same night, i am not too sure on this. I can do certain assumptions but i dont want to do it right now.

[bad bunny]

If theres a desparado shot shouldnt orangecrush or martin be targeted

[lost monkey]

why not both?

Its possible but I don't think so.

So you don’t believe Sloonei’s claim? Can you explain why? The way I’ve thought about it: if he is scum making this claim, what purpose does it serve? We seem to believe there can be multiple roles this game so it wouldn’t really hard anyone enough to cc. If he has a kill, why not just use it secretly?

sloonei has claimed? I haven't caught up, just saw the kills and came to that conclusion.

1 shot uni back up. Has the desperado shot. Wants input on who to shoot.

Should use it on act or nanook probably.

Nanook?

yeah, why not?

[MacDougall]

jjj or sloonei, one of them is scum but which one?

is this mech or just a read? or is it just hypothetical?

Hypothetical but also with how the NK's are progressing and their reads.

It's entirely plausible they've both been targeted for NKs at this point don't you think?

jjj maybe, sloonei nah.

Do you have a hypothesis on who was targeted n1? Sloonei had a vest and Hawk is confirmed town healer now. Without any doc claims to the contrary it just looks like it was aimed at him.

I can probably guess who from synd targeted jay but its useful to scum not us. I am damn sure allcrab is town, i believe his claims and so should all of you. Scum can probably both kill and use there abilities on the same night, i am not too sure on this. I can do certain assumptions but i dont want to do it right now.

you believe his claim? you know he changed it yeh? he's now an unlimited normal watcher. Are you still a 1 shot whatever?

[MacDougall]

Its possible but I don't think so.

So you don’t believe Sloonei’s claim? Can you explain why? The way I’ve thought about it: if he is scum making this claim, what purpose does it serve? We seem to believe there can be multiple roles this game so it wouldn’t really hard anyone enough to cc. If he has a kill, why not just use it secretly?

sloonei has claimed? I haven't caught up, just saw the kills and came to that conclusion.

1 shot uni back up. Has the desperado shot. Wants input on who to shoot.

Should use it on act or nanook probably.

Nanook?

yeah, why not?

why?

[bad bunny]

i really have no idea what nooks alignment could be

[lost monkey]

If theres a desparado shot shouldnt orangecrush or martin be targeted

Orangecrush is fine as well but i believe martin's claim. Didn't alison say she hard town reads martin, has that changed?

[MacDougall]

If theres a desparado shot shouldnt orangecrush or martin be targeted

I think the Mafia might win the trade in both cases.

[bad bunny]

but it would be nice to resolve OC and martin today somehow

[MacDougall]

i really have no idea what nooks alignment could be

Does it not matter that he buried Nutella?

[bad bunny]

If theres a desparado shot shouldnt orangecrush or martin be targeted

I think the Mafia might win the trade in both cases.

as in theyre both likely town?

[bad bunny]

i really have no idea what nooks alignment could be

Does it not matter that he buried Nutella?

idk if he was one of the first to push nutella then yes, if he was one of the last voters then no i dont think so ?

[lost monkey]

is this mech or just a read? or is it just hypothetical?

Hypothetical but also with how the NK's are progressing and their reads.

It's entirely plausible they've both been targeted for NKs at this point don't you think?

jjj maybe, sloonei nah.

Do you have a hypothesis on who was targeted n1? Sloonei had a vest and Hawk is confirmed town healer now. Without any doc claims to the contrary it just looks like it was aimed at him.

I can probably guess who from synd targeted jay but its useful to scum not us. I am damn sure allcrab is town, i believe his claims and so should all of you. Scum can probably both kill and use there abilities on the same night, i am not too sure on this. I can do certain assumptions but i dont want to do it right now.

you believe his claim? you know he changed it yeh? he's now an unlimited normal watcher. Are you still a 1 shot whatever?

yeah and i already guessed what role he had so it doesn't surprise me.

[Alison]

I think the operative here is that the claimed healers claimed to have run out of shots. There's nothing really preventing there from being unclaimed heals. Sloonei for instance could have become one. Heck maybe there's another uni back up.

If the 3p wincon is to poison a certain number of players or something there could be chunkloads of heal ability in this game.

LC was town so mafia healer obvs not gonna target him. Town healers not either cuz he was kinda POE. Hell Jay literally asked healers not to save him.

I am beginning to think that the poison mechanic might be the thing that ends up fucking the town more than the Mafia. Especially if the poisoner is a 3p and deep towncore member.

if there's a third poison healer they would I think have claimed by now to out martin

[MacDougall]

If theres a desparado shot shouldnt orangecrush or martin be targeted

I think the Mafia might win the trade in both cases.

as in theyre both likely town?

Maybe.

[bad bunny]

allcrab claiming he can watch every night is quite weird, i thought everyone was 1 shot in this game

[MacDougall]

i really have no idea what nooks alignment could be

Does it not matter that he buried Nutella?

idk if he was one of the first to push nutella then yes, if he was one of the last voters then no i dont think so ?

I think that he and I were the main ppl that were responsible for her wagon.

[lost monkey]

So you don’t believe Sloonei’s claim? Can you explain why? The way I’ve thought about it: if he is scum making this claim, what purpose does it serve? We seem to believe there can be multiple roles this game so it wouldn’t really hard anyone enough to cc. If he has a kill, why not just use it secretly?

sloonei has claimed? I haven't caught up, just saw the kills and came to that conclusion.

1 shot uni back up. Has the desperado shot. Wants input on who to shoot.

Should use it on act or nanook probably.

Nanook?

yeah, why not?

why?

Somewhat had a town lean on him D1, but right now i got nothing.

[Alison]

allcrab claiming he can watch every night is quite weird, i thought everyone was 1 shot in this game

I can confirm that my role is not 1 shot. Saying no more about it.

[MacDougall]

allcrab claiming he can watch every night is quite weird, i thought everyone was 1 shot in this game

A cursory look at the flips would show you that isn't the case. Gavial, Dana and Kito were all unlimited.

[Alison]

i really have no idea what nooks alignment could be

Does it not matter that he buried Nutella?

idk if he was one of the first to push nutella then yes, if he was one of the last voters then no i dont think so ?

I think that he and I were the main ppl that were responsible for her wagon.

first of all i take credit for that wagon too

second of all I think nook isn't mafia but I think he can be poisoner

[MacDougall]

sloonei has claimed? I haven't caught up, just saw the kills and came to that conclusion.

1 shot uni back up. Has the desperado shot. Wants input on who to shoot.

Should use it on act or nanook probably.

Nanook?

yeah, why not?

why?

Somewhat had a town lean on him D1, but right now i got nothing.

Is that sufficient for Sloonei to shoot at him? I think Nook is town.

[bad bunny]

I think the operative here is that the claimed healers claimed to have run out of shots. There's nothing really preventing there from being unclaimed heals. Sloonei for instance could have become one. Heck maybe there's another uni back up.

If the 3p wincon is to poison a certain number of players or something there could be chunkloads of heal ability in this game.

LC was town so mafia healer obvs not gonna target him. Town healers not either cuz he was kinda POE. Hell Jay literally asked healers not to save him.

I am beginning to think that the poison mechanic might be the thing that ends up fucking the town more than the Mafia. Especially if the poisoner is a 3p and deep towncore member.

if there's a third poison healer they would I think have claimed by now to out martin

why would they claim, we'd lynch a 3P poisoner

[MacDougall]

i really have no idea what nooks alignment could be

Does it not matter that he buried Nutella?

idk if he was one of the first to push nutella then yes, if he was one of the last voters then no i dont think so ?

I think that he and I were the main ppl that were responsible for her wagon.

first of all i take credit for that wagon too

second of all I think nook isn't mafia but I think he can be poisoner

Lol fine.